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kids.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2010-03-18.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Is it possible to be a more conscientious parent than you really ought to be?\u00a0 Or put another way; is it possible that your kids have become an idol?\u00a0 Leslie Fields thinks so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Please don\u2019t throw anything at me Ok?\u00a0 I\u2019ve sort of been expecting people to throw things at me or to just say, \u201cWhat?\u00a0 You\u2019re saying that parenting is not your highest calling?\u00a0 This is heretical.\u201d\u00a0 You know, the reason I can say this is because Jesus said it.\u00a0 Our temptation as parents is to love our children and serve them, and find our significance in them, rather than in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday March 18.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We\u2019ll spend some time today putting parenting and your children in proper perspective.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> thanks for joining us.\u00a0 So, are you just trying to discourage moms and dads with what we\u2019re talking about?\u00a0 I\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Wait a second, I was not the one who, earlier this week, told a friend as he was expressing some dismay over his 12-year-old having a little push-back and expressing some anger\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019m not sure that\u2019s exactly how he did it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You gave him a pretty sober analysis of the next six years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I just said, \u201cJust strap it in, because the ride is going to last for a while.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m just wondering\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019m just trying to smooth out the bumps by giving folks a great shock absorber\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Reality check, is what this is?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This book that we\u2019re talking about this week could be packaged as a shock absorber for a mom and a dad\u2019s heart, as you raise the next generation.\u00a0 Leslie Leyland Fields joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Leslie welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thanks, I\u2019m glad to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>She has written a book called, <em>Parenting is Your Highest Calling and Eight Other Myths that Trap Us in Worry and Guilt.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>I wish our listeners could really get to know Leslie.\u00a0 She\u2019s one of the more fascinating guests we\u2019ve had here.\u00a0 She lives in Alaska, and not just in Alaska, but an island off an island in Alaska.\u00a0 She lives near Kodiak Island.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>And three months a year you live at fish camp with the family and you bathe once a week right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Pretty much.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019m just wanting a reality check for our listeners.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You know it\u2019s like we were saying earlier\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Bob, you\u2019re creating a smell to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019m clean today, all right, just to let you know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Leslie I\u2019m sorry.\u00a0 We\u2019ve found some fresh ways to\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>To insult guests?\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>But Leslie lives near Kodiak Island some of our listeners know that\u2019s a famous island for Grizzly bears.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Kodiak bear actually is what we call them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Oh, yes.\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry that I demeaned the Kodiak bear by calling him a grizzly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>But, you also spent some time traveling across Africa, sometimes in the jungles?\u00a0 Right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Oh yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So you\u2019ve got this varied life.\u00a0 But it took you eight years to come to grips with this idea of becoming a parent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It really did.\u00a0 We got married at a pretty young age, I was 20.\u00a0 My husband was 21.\u00a0 We were in college.\u00a0 We had a list of all the things we wanted to do together before we had a family.\u00a0 We knew we were going to have a family.\u00a0 We were committed to that, and we looked forward to that.\u00a0 But we wanted to go to graduate school, we wanted to travel around the world, and see the world that God had made, we felt that was important to our education.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also wanted to live out in the bush.\u00a0 So we spent eight years doing all those things, and experiencing all kinds of adventures.\u00a0 From trekking up to Mount Everest base camp, to swimming with sharks in the Red Sea, which I didn\u2019t intend to do that.\u00a0 That was an accident.\u00a0 All kinds of amazing adventures and brushes with death and all of that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, yes.\u00a0 In Africa, in the middle of Africa, in the heart of Africa in the back of an expedition truck, suddenly at age 28 I felt really empty.\u00a0 I felt kind of weary with my own life and the emptiness of my own life, I had a very deep sense that I was ready to take on another kind of adventure.\u00a0 Not an adventure that takes you around the world, but an adventure of the heart.\u00a0 An adventure of the soul, and that was the adventure of parenting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You actually, at that point, had the thought that your own desires could enslave you, and you felt like God was speaking into your life calling you to give your life up for another.\u00a0 And that\u2019s how you embarked on the parenting journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, that\u2019s right, exactly.\u00a0 I saw the emptiness of living for yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Compare parenting with climbing to base camp.\u00a0 Which is the biggest adventure?\u00a0 Being a parent or crawling through the jungles, fighting the elements on Kodiak Island\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Swimming with the sharks\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Ok, they\u2019re both really great.\u00a0 I don\u2019t want to denigrate the adventure, the outward adventure, because that is important.\u00a0 But that\u2019s not it.\u00a0 God can meet you there, and He did meet us there in those things.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, the real adventure, I think, is to pour your life into other people, into other human beings.\u00a0 To die to self, and that\u2019s the source of life.\u00a0 That is the source of new life.\u00a0 Not going to the next country, not having that next adventure.\u00a0 As wonderful as those things are\u2014and God can direct you to do those things\u2014but the deeper journey really has been raising children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Just so our listeners know, your daughter Naftali, you had your first child at 29 right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thirty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thirty years old, then a couple of years later you had your son, then another boy, and another boy and that was kind of it.\u00a0 Right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That was it, we were done.\u00a0 Four kids, a girl and three boys, and our quiver was overflowing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Then what happened?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Then, five years later when I was 43, and I was a professor teaching full-time, my life was very full, God said, \u201cYou\u2019re not done.\u00a0 You need another child.\u201d\u00a0 And I was pregnant again with another son.\u00a0 After going through that experience, a very humbling experience, it was very much about obedience and obeying God and bringing this child to life; dying to self, dying to my plans, dying to my idea of my life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo great, I learned all those things.\u00a0 Then at age 45, I was pregnant again with another son.\u00a0 It was almost a breaking point for me.\u00a0 I felt like, \u201cGod, I already learned those things!\u00a0 I\u2019ve done those things, what are you making me do this again for?\u201d\u00a0 So again, it was just an incredible relinquishment and submission and obedience and giving over my desires to pursue and be obedient to God\u2019s desires for me, which I didn\u2019t understand.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know why God was doing that to me at the time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, my youngest is six years old and my other one is eight, and I can\u2019t tell you what they\u2019ve done for our family, and how they\u2019ve changed all of us in wonderful ways.\u00a0 But again, it goes back to the dying to self.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Leslie we\u2019re very close to one of the myths that you write about in your book.\u00a0 Earlier this week we talked about the first myth that is that \u201cChildren are there to help us become happy.\u201d\u00a0 That, that\u2019s the purpose of them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, happy and fulfilled.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>They do bring us great pleasure and delight, but there are some larger purposes at stake here.\u00a0 This third myth in your book though, that \u201cparenting is your highest calling.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s the title of the book, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We\u2019re on it right now, you\u2019re saying you gave up this life of high adventure, literally from an altitude standpoint, and going through the jungle and Alaska and all these things, you gave it up for the high calling of being a parent.\u00a0 But you\u2019re saying that that alone is a myth, and there\u2019s something higher that parents need to be called to?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>There is indeed.\u00a0 Please don\u2019t throw anything at me Ok?\u00a0 I\u2019ve sort of been expecting people to throw things at me or to just say \u201cWhat?\u00a0 You\u2019re saying that parenting is not your highest calling?\u00a0 This is heretical.\u201d\u00a0 The reason I can say this is because Jesus said it.\u00a0 If I had to go straight to the clearest expression of this it would be to Matthew 10:37, when Jesus says, \u201cAnyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re OK at that point, \u201cfather and mother\u201d but the next line \u201cAnyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.\u201d\u00a0 This morning I was just reading in Luke 14.\u00a0 Jesus says it again in a way that\u2019s even stronger.\u00a0 He says, \u201cAnyone that does not hate his mother or father, his wife and his children, anyone who does not hate them cannot be my disciple.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we understand that that\u2019s hyperbole.\u00a0 We understand that Jesus is not calling us to literally hate our children and our family.\u00a0 But he\u2019s trying to make that point ever so strongly that our first love, our first call is to love the Lord our God with all of our heart, our soul and our strength.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have the temptation, because we\u2019re human beings, and because we can\u2019t see God and we can\u2019t touch him we can\u2019t hug him.\u00a0 We can\u2019t sing him songs at night, our temptation as parents is to love our children whom we can sing to at night, and hug and carry in our arms to love them and serve them and find our significance in them, rather than in Christ.\u00a0 Rather than, in the Father.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You\u2019re not going to be stoned by Bob or me\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Because one of the things Bob and I have talked about over the years as we\u2019ve been broadcasting now for, I guess going on our 18<sup>th<\/sup> year right, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We don\u2019t want people to make an idol of the Christian family.\u00a0 Or, become idol worshippers of their children.\u00a0 I\u2019ll tell you what, when things are going well with the family, and when you get a brood of children around you, I\u2019m telling you they take your heart.\u00a0 They demand your heart, but what I hear you saying is what I hope our listeners hear us saying here every day on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 The ultimate devotion is to Jesus Christ, and a surrender to Him on a daily basis.\u00a0 If anyone or anything takes His place, you\u2019ve got the wrong purpose.\u00a0 You\u2019re settling for a lesser calling in life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Here\u2019s the thing.\u00a0 When we love God first, that doesn\u2019t mean we love our children any less.\u00a0 Loving God first enables us to love our children, not less, but to love them rightly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This may be\u2014I don\u2019t want to say that only moms feel this way, because that\u2019s not the case, but moms have more of a natural predisposition to make parenting into an idol than maybe dads do.\u00a0 Do you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I would agree with that.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I have observed and saw.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Part of it is the nurturing, caretaking role that God gives to moms, again dads aren\u2019t excluded from that, but moms are typically there day-in and day-out.\u00a0 I think there is some hardwiring in the heart of a mom to really pour herself into the life of her children.\u00a0 It\u2019s almost like the kids are baiting you throughout their life to say, \u201cMake me number one, make me your highest calling.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, the children, of course, I think they want that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>They want to be the center of the universe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>They want to be the center of the universe.\u00a0 They want to be the center of your universe, and they may get the mistaken idea that that is your purpose in life, is to serve them.\u00a0 That\u2019s a very dangerous thing when our kids only see us as a mother or father whose purpose is to make them happy and serve them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Was this a gradual shift for you, or did you come into parenting recognizing \u201cMy relationship with God needs to be primary and my kids are going to be secondary.\u201d\u00a0 Or was there a wakening over time in your own life, as a parent where you said, \u201cI\u2019ve just been too emotionally invested, I\u2019ve made this too much of a priority.\u201d\u00a0 Was there a wakeup call?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I did not think this through before I had children.\u00a0 I was too busy climbing Mount Everest.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That would give you plenty of time to think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It was a gradual process as I went through some of the heartache and heartbreak of parenting, I realized, \u201cWait a minute, there\u2019s more here.\u201d\u00a0 I began to recognize my own failures, my own limitations, and to know that, there\u2019s a lot more going on here than I appreciated.\u00a0 I began to recognize that unless I was setting my heart and my mind and my strength on God Himself, I had nothing to give to my children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This is a difficult dance that we\u2019re talking about here\u2014holding your children close but not too close and keeping God as the center point, the person of affection of your life.\u00a0 I would just have to say, now with six adult children, it\u2019s not over even after you raise them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you let them go, you still have hopes and dreams for your kids, and I think God is in the process of weaning you away from living your life through those kids, and living your life through Him and being obedient to Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I think back to Genesis, I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s 22 I think, where God calls Abraham to take \u201cYour son, your only son to Mount Mariah,\u201d and of course, the primary thing that God is communicating to us in the midst of that is the message of the Gospel.\u00a0 But there is a side where we look at that and say, God\u2019s asking Abraham, \u201cIs there anything between you and me, even your son, even the son of promise who I\u2019ve given you, are you ready to give it all up for me?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Even to the point of raising the knife in the air.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I think that God calls us to that same test in our hearts.\u00a0 That each one of us has to walk up Mount Mariah with our child beside us and that we have to lay our child on the altar and say, \u201cHe is yours, do with him as you will,\u201d so that our hope and our trust and our faith is not in our daughters and sons.\u00a0 But it\u2019s in the Son who is already come.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s so easy to sit here in a studio and say this, children are addictive.\u00a0 They\u2019re just delightful, and it goes against the heart of a parent, a mom or a dad as we\u2019ve said, to not have those aspirations and dreams and affection for them.\u00a0 Oh, I so look forward to Heaven when there will be no more of this struggle.\u00a0 Where we will love perfectly and will love him perfectly, and no longer be in this earthly shell that really has difficulty keeping the right affections.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> <strong>\u00a0<\/strong>Well, and you know what it\u2019s like when something is not well with your child.\u00a0 As a parent it grieves your heart in a way that nothing else grieves your heart.\u00a0 And yet, at the same time that\u2019s the Mount Mariah we have to be on at that point, and say, \u201cLord this is your child.\u00a0 I can\u2019t control what\u2019s going on here.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>To that point, that leads us to another myth that you write about in your book, the myth that: \u201cGood parenting leads to happy kids.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cGood parenting leads to happy children.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 You know, our culture is all about happiness, the pursuit of happiness, it\u2019s written into the very charter of our nations.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u201cLife, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, the pursuit of happiness.\u00a0 This is a real guiding light for us because we are so emotionally tuned into our children.\u00a0 When they\u2019re unhappy, that\u2019s just like fingernails on the chalkboard of our heart.\u00a0 So we experience the same tension, when our children aren\u2019t happy, we do want them to be happy.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we look toward this light, what is the higher call? What is the higher goal?\u00a0 Not their happiness right now, but their long-term good.\u00a0 So we have to distinguish between the short-term happy, and the long-term good.\u00a0 So that was the guiding light again.\u00a0 One thing that\u2019s important about that though is that we don\u2019t shut our kids off from voicing their concerns.\u00a0 I think that\u2019s really important.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> <strong>\u00a0<\/strong>Right, we want to hear their heart and what you\u2019re troubled by.\u00a0 We want to give you the freedom to express your emotions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong>\u00a0 But at the end of the day\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We know best.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong>\u00a0 At the end of the day this is what we\u2019re doing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You\u2019ve just modeled something for our listeners that is important today.\u00a0 There are a lot of parents who are becoming very child-centric and letting the children dictate the values, the priorities, and what they do.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s why God gives children parents.\u00a0 He places them in authority and under His authority as God, and that\u2019s what you\u2019ve called people do to in your book.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou said, their highest calling is not to be parents; their highest calling is allegiance to Jesus Christ.\u00a0 If he puts it in your heart to build certain values and strengths and qualities in your children, then you have to be obedient to Him.\u00a0 No matter how they whine or complain or try to get out of it.\u00a0 Just be a parent.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know if you are, you\u2019re going to need coaching and encouragement, and I said before we came on the air to Leslie, I really like her book, Bob because it is not only practical, but it is anchored in scripture.\u00a0 Calling parents back to the biblical basics and the foundation of how we\u2019re going to build the next generation.\u00a0 That\u2019s really why <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and FamilyLife were founded back in1976 to equip husbands and wives, moms and dads in the most fundamental commitments in life.\u00a0 I\u2019m promising you, being a parent is one of them.\u00a0 We need to do it in the right way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You think about most of the books you see for parents and it\u2019s about child raising techniques, things you can do to grow a happy healthy child.\u00a0 Those are not unimportant things.\u00a0 This is a book that challenges your own thinking about your assignment as a parent and pulls you back to thinking rightly so that everything else can flow from a proper understanding of the assignment God has given you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That is what I intended.\u00a0 I have a lot of parenting books on my shelf, but I felt a great need to understand the theology of parenting.\u00a0 What is a theology of parenting?\u00a0 It has been transformational for me as I worked through this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>One of the things that is important to me, Leslie, and Bob as well, is a radio broadcast like ours can just heap out the guilt in a 25 minute program day-after-day-after-day and make everybody feel inferior by bringing on a guest like you who have got life all wired together.\u00a0 This is not a book that presents a life that\u2019s all wired together.\u00a0 In fact, some of your best teaching points in here are from your failures and some of your feelings of inadequacy so it really is a guilt reducer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, it does not come with rose colored glasses.\u00a0 We\u2019ve removed those so you can read this with a clear head and with clear eyes.\u00a0 You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com to get a copy of Leslie\u2019s book.\u00a0 Again, it\u2019s called <em>\u201cParenting Is Your Highest Calling\u201d and Eight Other Myths that Trap Us in Worry and Guilt.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>You\u2019ll find copies online at FamilyLifeToday.com or you can call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That\u2019s 1-800 F as in \u201cfamily\u201d L as in \u201clife\u201d and then the word TODAY.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA couple of weeks ago I was out east speaking at one of our FamilyLife Weekend to Remember\u00ae Marriage Conferences and we had a big crowd out for the conference.\u00a0 It was great to spend time with a lot of listeners, folks who listen regularly to the program.\u00a0 But I particularly enjoyed those folks who came up and said we want you to know, we support the ministry.\u00a0 Obviously we\u2019re thrilled that anyone would listen.\u00a0 We appreciate you tuning in and telling others about our program.\u00a0 But it\u2019s particularly meaningful when folks say, \u201cWe went online recently and made a donation,\u201d or \u201cWe called and made a contribution to your ministry.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou stop and think about that, that\u2019s humbling.\u00a0 It really is encouraging to us to know that we\u2019re connecting and that this ministry is important enough that folks would make a donation to help support it.\u00a0 So we appreciate those of you who do from time to time, either go online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make a donation.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, this month, if you make a donation of any amount, we have a way we\u2019d like to say thank you.\u00a0 It\u2019s a beautiful film that\u2019s been put together called <em>Magdalena<\/em>.\u00a0 This is available on DVD it tells the story of the life of Jesus through the eyes of Mary Magdalene.\u00a0 It\u2019s very well done.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the cool things about the DVD is that it comes with different audio tracks.\u00a0 So if you know someone for whom Spanish is a first language or someone who speaks French of Portuguese or Mandarin or Korean or Arabic or Russian.\u00a0 You can get a copy of this and pass it on to them as an Easter gift and just as a way to reach out to them and share your faith.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the <em>Magdalena<\/em> DVD is our gift to you this month when you make a donation of any amount to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 If you donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com, and you want the DVD, type \u201cMAGDVD\u201d into the key code box on the online donation form.\u00a0 Again, it\u2019s \u201cMAGDVD.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call 1-800-FLTODAY and just mention that you\u2019d like the DVD we were talking about and, again we\u2019re happy to send it to you, and we do appreciate your partnership with us in the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTomorrow we want to invite you back when we\u2019re going to continue to tackle some of the myths related to parenting and to adjust our thinking when it comes to our assignment as moms and dads.\u00a0 Hope you can be back with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today Keith Lynch and our entire broadcast production team. 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