{"id":301930,"date":"2009-12-02T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-12-02T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-spiritual-traditions-of-christmas\/"},"modified":"2009-12-02T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2009-12-02T17:00:00","slug":"the-spiritual-traditions-of-christmas","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-spiritual-traditions-of-christmas\/","title":{"rendered":"The Spiritual Traditions of Christmas"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What once were pagan practices have been redeemed over time to glorify Christ and explain Him to others.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2009-12-02.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"11.49M","filesize_raw":"12048543","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2816],"tags":[4642],"podcast_series":[7692],"cwp_profile":[8927],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-301930","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-christmas","tag-christmas","podcast_series-25-days-26-ways-to-make-this-your-best-christmas-ever","cwp_profile-ace-collins","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/301930\/the-spiritual-traditions-of-christmas","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/301930\/the-spiritual-traditions-of-christmas","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"cCBFmP2Vdt\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-spiritual-traditions-of-christmas\/\">The Spiritual Traditions of Christmas<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-spiritual-traditions-of-christmas\/embed\/#?secret=cCBFmP2Vdt\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;The Spiritual Traditions of Christmas&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"cCBFmP2Vdt\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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that.\u00a0 The lights that are on the tree, therefore, have their roots in the illumination that was brought to us by our Savior.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, December 2<sup>nd<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife Dennis Rainey and I\u2019m Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Will your family have a merry Christmas this year?\u00a0 Or a mighty Christmas?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about that today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> thanks for joining us on the Wednesday edition.\u00a0 I hope that what we\u2019re talking about this week is helping folks get their focus right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, it is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 During the Christmas season.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It has to, it\u2019s talking about Jesus Christ and how we can make Him relevant in our families at Christmas time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes and there is so much in the culture that pulls in a different direction that to stop and take a few minutes each day and just say, all right let\u2019s make sure we\u2019re looking in the right direction.\u00a0 Before we dive into what we want to talk about today, and introduce our guest who is joining us this week.\u00a0 We do need to alert our regular listeners to the fact that we\u2019ve got a special opportunity that has been made available to us here by some friends at the ministry.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs many of our listeners know this has been a challenging year for our ministry, for a lot of ministries and we\u2019ve had to make some adjustments over the last year.\u00a0 Recently we\u2019ve had some friends step forward and say we want to encourage <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners to make a year-end contribution to continue to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo they are offering to match any donation we receive between now and the end of December on a dollar for dollar basis up to a total of $1,250,000.\u00a0 This is the largest matching gift opportunity we have ever received during the month of December.\u00a0 So we\u2019re hoping that we will be able to take full advantage of that matching gift opportunity, but to do that, Dennis, we are going to need to hear from as many listeners as possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s exactly right, Bob because forty percent of our donations for the entire year are given in the month of December.\u00a0 What happens this month in terms of the amount of donations we receive here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> really determines how we can stay on this station and move forward into the new year.\u00a0 So we are really turning to our friends here at Christmas time.\u00a0 You know Christmas is a time of friendship and just saying we need your help and we need your help now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Again this matching gift opportunity is a unique way to help us out.\u00a0 When you make a donation between now and the end of December that donation is going to be matched dollar for dollar so if you can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com or by calling 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 Make a donation over the phone we would appreciate whatever you are able to do and we want to say thanks in advance for your support of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow as we focus in on Christmas this week and as we talk about how we can get our families spiritually ready for the holiday, we\u2019ve already talked about the spiritual implications of fudge.\u00a0 I want to see if there is some way to get some spiritual meaning out of mistletoe before we are all done here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think you\u2019re going to be surprised by the history behind mistletoe and to get that history, let\u2019s call upon one of America\u2019s master storytellers.\u00a0\u00a0 Ace Collins joins us on the broadcast.\u00a0 Ace you have written sixty books, your name is Ace, I have been wanting to ask this of you because we\u2019ve interviewed you now over a dozen times.\u00a0 Did you get the name Ace because you were a sharpshooter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Nope.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Where did that come from?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 I went to Baylor University and I was one of four Andrew Collins\u2019.\u00a0 So they got us confused a lot and I just happened to be the one of the Andrew Collins\u2019 that had learned how to play Hearts from his grandfather and won a Hearts championship on a run playing the ace of hearts.\u00a0 People started calling me Ace because of that and I spent the next four years trying to escape that name and eventually I was going to write under the name Andrew Collins.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a literary agent who said no there are bunches of Andrew Collins\u2019, Ace is the way to go, because that is what everybody calls you anyway.\u00a0 So my wife wouldn\u2019t know how to introduce me, she didn\u2019t actually introduce me as Ace so that\u2019s what I get.\u00a0 You know my family members because they still call me Andy, but everybody else calls me Ace.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I wondered if there was anyone around who stills says, Andrew.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well when I am in trouble it\u2019s Andrew Jefferson.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well you have written a book called <em>25 Days, 26 Ways to Make This Your Best Christmas Ever<\/em>.\u00a0 It\u2019s really a book that is twenty six days worth of advent.\u00a0 It\u2019s not only all the way through Christmas, but it goes to the 26<sup>th<\/sup> as well and one of the days you do talk about where the concept of mistletoe came from.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, mistletoe is a Christian concept we need to reclaim.\u00a0 I actually was on a \u201clive\u201d show four or five years ago in Colorado Springs and it was one of those shows where you are almost frightened to be on, I am on these a lot, because you get callers who ask questions.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou never know what the questions are going to be so you are sitting there hoping that you\u2019ve got the answer and the first call we got on that two hour show was a guy calling in angry, I don\u2019t celebrate Christmas.\u00a0 I\u2019m a Christian, but Christmas is all about pagan holidays.\u00a0 It\u2019s all about these pagan roots.\u00a0 Everything in Christmas is pagan and so I don\u2019t have anything to do with it.\u00a0 Now that\u2019s a great way to start a show that when you are talking about a book you have just written on the stories behind the great traditions of Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And we are going to take two hours to do that, this guys going to be mad the whole time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, I just took a pause and I asked him, I said it\u2019s true, most of our traditions, most of the things we celebrate at Christmas actually have pagan roots.\u00a0 They were part of a society before that society and those individuals became Christians.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me ask you a question, have you always been a Christian?\u00a0 He paused and said no I became a Christian when I was fourteen years old.\u00a0 That\u2019s when I accepted Christ as my Savior.\u00a0 Or it was sixteen years old and I said ok, how old are you now?\u00a0 He said I am in my early thirties.\u00a0 I said you spent half of your life then not as a Christian.\u00a0 He said yes.\u00a0 I said should they allow you in the church because you have pagan roots?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said hadn\u2019t thought of it that way and I said all of these Christmas things that we embrace were used by early missionaries as really tracts, visible tracts on how and what faith meant.\u00a0 What Christ dying for people on the cross meant.\u00a0 Mistletoe is one of those.\u00a0 Yes, now we know it as the kissing plant.\u00a0 But it didn\u2019t start out that way.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tVikings and Druids and Celts before they became Christians looked at mistletoe as an incredibly powerful plant because it grew out of what they thought was dead wood.\u00a0 Because they thought trees died in the winter time and then magically sprang back to life in the spring.\u00a0 Yet, the mistletoe did not die.\u00a0 As a matter of fact Viking warriors were not allowed to wage battle underneath trees that had mistletoe in them.\u00a0 So it became known as the plant of peace.\u00a0 You had to find a way to get along.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So if you were having a fire fight I guess sword fight back then you had to quit if you somehow ventured under the tree, is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly you had to find a way to make peace with your neighbor or with your conflicting tribe.\u00a0 So it became the plant of peace.\u00a0 Let\u2019s take it a step further, well the missionaries came and they looked at this plant of peace and thought here is an opportunity for us as we share the good news of salvation to explain it like you do with children when you explain things, break it down into simple steps.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey looked at this plant that didn\u2019t die in the winter time and they said you see that plant growing out of the wood well they crucified Christ on a cross of wood and yet he did not die.\u00a0 He was resurrected and He lives again and that Christ who was resurrected and died for your sins is with you always even in the days of winter when everything else dies that faith is as alive as that mistletoe plant is.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey began to look at the mistletoe therefore as standing for the Christian faith.\u00a0 If somebody asked them what is this Christ?\u00a0 It\u2019s like the mistletoe, Christ never dies he\u2019s with us always and if we have faith we will be strong always.\u00a0 So what happened they started to have bride and grooms in the Vikings and the Celtics and the Druids who had become Christians get married underneath the mistletoe plant because they were reminded if they kept Christ above them, if they kept their faith like the mistletoe plant which represented Christ to them.\u00a0 If you kept that faith in your lives, you would prosper, you would benefit and you would get through even the toughest, darkest days.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo therefore for many, many years the plant had significance as a tool to lead others to Christ and explain what Christ could mean and faith would mean in sustaining life.\u00a0 Now obviously because they got married underneath mistletoe they kissed underneath mistletoe and eventually we lost the faith aspect of the story and it became just the kissing aspect.\u00a0 Let\u2019s take it and remember the Prince of Peace, what stands for the Prince of Peace in that cultures mind was the mistletoe.\u00a0 It was faith that never died.\u00a0 You can reclaim the mistletoe as the Christian symbol that was used by early missionaries 1300 years ago this year if you want to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking we may need to start taking mistletoe to the Weekend to Remember Conference and just passing it out to couples there and explain to them a little bit of what that\u2019s all about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it has a double meaning at that point they can kiss, but they can also celebrate the Prince of Peace who builds marriages and families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And understand there is a spiritual message here and really that\u2019s what we have been talking about all this week is how we take the familiar of Christmas and either find what was there in the beginning or bring to it something that maybe hasn\u2019t been there, redeem if you will the traditions of Christmas so that they have a spiritual significance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Why is light on the tree?\u00a0 Light is on the tree because Martin Luther was trying to figure out a way to take an evergreen tree which they had a few nuts, berries and a few homemade ornaments on and have it represent the light that Christ brought to the world.\u00a0 So he put a candle on the tree to represent that.\u00a0 The lights that are on the tree therefore have their roots in the illumination that was brought to us by our Savior.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe evergreen tree, this is a concept that goes back five hundred when the Latvians first brought trees in at Christmas.\u00a0 Why did they bring them in?\u00a0 It goes kind of like that mistletoe the evergreen didn\u2019t die in the winter time it flourished.\u00a0 Faith flourishes even through the toughest, bleakest times and if you really, really want to do it the way they did it five hundred years ago in Latvia when you bring that tree inside you will nail it to your ceiling and hang it upside down because that is the way they did it.\u00a0 And if you think getting a tree straight on the ground is tough for your wife, wait till you try to put one on the ceiling and get it straight.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut fortunately about five hundred years after that they turned it over so when Martin Luther was decorating a tree it was on his floor and not on the ceiling.\u00a0 The greenery represents the faith that doesn\u2019t die and sustains you through even the toughest times.\u00a0 It\u2019s not like a tree that loses its leaf and is barren.\u00a0 That tree, the evergreen tree, is like faith.\u00a0 It\u2019s there all the time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You said there is a peanut butter fudge recipe in the book somewhere?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, there is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m looking for it; you don\u2019t know where it is do you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 While he finds it I want to ask him a question about something that they do in their family.\u00a0 And I want to ask you too, Bob, do you have any special ways you exchange gifts in your family?\u00a0 Because we do and I just wondered what you guys did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 As the kids have gotten older we\u2019ve started rather than having everybody buy a gift for everybody else and wipe out their budget and everybody gets a $10 gift that they don\u2019t really want or need.\u00a0 We\u2019ve started doing the draw the name and you get one special thing for a significant person.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen we do what Ace\u2019s family does when it\u2019s time to open the gifts, it\u2019s one at a time and we rotate who goes up under the tree to select the gift and you can\u2019t pick one that\u2019s for you, you have to pick one that is for somebody else so you go find the gift, you deliver it to your sibling and then we all watch as your sibling opens and we can\u2019t go to the next one until that one is open.\u00a0 We make it into quite a little festive celebration and production.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 We have an adaptation of that as well, Bob.\u00a0 The gift is given and the person who gets the gift is the one who gets to not only open the present but also give the next gift to somebody else.\u00a0 Our Christmas mornings at least the last ones we\u2019ve experienced as a family have taken all morning.\u00a0 Because it really stretches it out and allows people to really give the gift.\u00a0 And it\u2019s usually a gift that they have selected that they have given to another person so that\u2019s opened at that point and that person gets to select a gift and it just continues on around.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ve started doing some of your Christmas morning via Skype right?\u00a0 Where you set up the computer and families in other locations are participating?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 People can kind of frown on that, but that really is if as we\u2019ve had in times past one family in Seattle, another family in Florida, another one in Denver, another one in Washington, D.C.\u00a0 I mean it\u2019s not bad to pull together the video on a computer and watch the kids open the presents.\u00a0 Just have somebody open a camera up in the room and it\u2019s not the same as being there, obviously, because you can\u2019t hug them, but they can show off what they have gotten and it really is a lot of fun.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I asked about the peanut butter fudge recipe, its here as a part of Day 22.\u00a0 I think we would have to go ahead and accelerate and have Day 22 back in Week One.\u00a0 Because you have a recipe here for sausage balls, a recipe here for Brenda MacGregor\u2019s.\u00a0 Who is Brenda MacGregor?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 We experimented with all kinds of Christmas cookie recipes and hers is the best.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And then the peanut butter fudge recipe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well there is a reason; there is a cup of butter and a cup and a half of sugar.\u00a0 You should just mainline this stuff, Ace.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 The sweetness of Christmas should never be minimalized.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me tell you something, my mom made bonbons, chocolate bonbons.\u00a0 They were kind of a hard candy that they never got really hard.\u00a0 They were covered by semi-sweet chocolate and then a pecan was placed right on top.\u00a0 They were little nuggets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you have the recipe for it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think we do somewhere, but I wouldn\u2019t want to claim for sure, but every one of those was like nuclear sugar.\u00a0 It was fused.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 There are an awful lot of presents to be opened you need that rush to get through all those presents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And we have taken some of our favorite recipes and put them up on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Food is a big part of the holidays.\u00a0 This is a five to ten pound holiday, Christmas is, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t have to be.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it is for me but I still\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wait a minute.\u00a0 Ace, for Bob it has to be Ace you\u2019re not speaking his love language.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well he can have my part of my five or ten, but I think any time you gather together to celebrate a birthday and that\u2019s what you\u2019re doing at Christmas you need to celebrate in a way that is memorable.\u00a0 One of the ways that was celebrated in Christ\u2019s time was to have feasts at special days.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Every year when I was growing up my grandparents on my mother\u2019s side would drive down from Flint, Michigan to St. Louis to spend Christmas with us.\u00a0 They would usually come for two to three weeks.\u00a0 Now I never stopped to consider that having grandma and grandpa around for two or three weeks was anything other than just wonderful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well they came to thaw out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\u00a0\u00a0 But what I really looked forward to was what they would store in the trunk of the car and that I could open up as soon as they got there and that was a couple of six packs of Vernor\u2019s Ginger Ale.\u00a0 Back in the day you couldn\u2019t get Vernor\u2019s Ginger Ale in St. Louis and so to get it smuggled across the Michigan border and into Missouri was a highlight.\u00a0 Again these are little triggers that bring back memories.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Nothing like fudge cookies and Dr. Pepper.\u00a0 And then of course if grandma really went all out for me because she always bought me one of those really neat looking bottles of Grapette.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you remember spiritual highlights of the holiday as you were growing up?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh yes because there were a very, very important things that you did, the Christmas Eve service, the Christmas cantata.\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember a single Christmas message I\u2019ve ever heard in my entire life.\u00a0 So for the pastors out there, I am sorry.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I can\u2019t tell you how many of my incredible spiritual memories of the holiday wrap around someone singing a solo or a choir special.\u00a0 Or just gathering around a piano at a relative\u2019s house and singing carols yourself or going out and caroling.\u00a0 That was something we did a lot.\u00a0 We would go to sick and shut in people and the memory of one lady.\u00a0 We had moved to Illinois by that time and the lady was in Illinois and she was an elderly lady and she came in and parted the venetian blinds and opened them and watched us sing outside her house.\u00a0 And what that meant to her, she had tears in her eyes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe spiritual element of the holidays is ultimately what it is all about and that\u2019s why I recommended ending the holidays with two things.\u00a0 One, the boxing day which we talked about a couple of days ago, giving the gifts that you get in excess to those who need them the worst.\u00a0 So having another day in which you go out and take gifts out and give them away.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other thing is on Christmas day baking a birthday cake for the Baby Jesus and getting everybody involved.\u00a0 You can have little kids beat it; don\u2019t worry about the mess in the kitchen.\u00a0 Just create it and talk about what the symbolic nature of what you can do through telling the people about Jesus, the resurrection, the colors and everything you use can make a tremendous impact in a child\u2019s life that will go on forever.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother thing we talk about in the book, we talk about shopping off the list.\u00a0 We also talk about doing something else at Christmas that I think is really special.\u00a0 The last I heard is that there is a child that dies every six seconds in the developing world from one of two things.\u00a0 It\u2019s either starvation or it is the lack of a few cents worth of medicine.\u00a0 For twenty, thirty, forty cents a day this child can live.\u00a0 You can stop that gap.\u00a0 There all kinds of different organizations.\u00a0 We list three of them in the book that allow you to spend $25 a month and sponsor a child.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGet together with the kids and everything else and take a little bit of everybody\u2019s Christmas money, pick out an organization sponsor the child and continue to take a little bit of money and continue that sponsorship that next year and then the next year you will have a new photograph of that child and you will find out what\u2019s going on in that child\u2019s life.\u00a0 Every year thereafter that child that you are saving in the third world becomes an important part of your Christmas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think therefore you\u2019re involved once again in reaching out and touching the least of these at Christmas.\u00a0 You are taking gift giving which is really if you go through this book a lot we\u2019re talking about the ways to give 25 days, 26 ways to give and give and give and it\u2019s not giving till it hurts.\u00a0 It\u2019s giving till it blesses you over and over again.\u00a0 And it\u2019s not giving money it\u2019s giving little things.\u00a0\u00a0 But just think eighty-three, eighty-four cents a day you can save a child\u2019s life, by doing that you imprint upon children the importance of sharing with the least of these.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know what?\u00a0 I think there is a new day coming for all of us in the Christian community because the culture is pressing in on us tighter and tighter and we\u2019re going to have to have a big God, a God of grace, a God of forgiveness the God who welcomes us into His family.\u00a0 We\u2019ve got to represent Him in better ways.\u00a0 What better season to do that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 I tell you what, Christ reached out to a woman at the well who was the equivalent of that and gave her the gift of what?\u00a0 Compassion, understanding, we need to reach out to sinners today giving them the same gifts and there are creative ways at Christmas to get that message across.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ll tell you, God\u2019s at work in my life right now pushing me out of some of my comfort zones, relating to those that I wouldn\u2019t necessarily want to go near, but I\u2019m feeling a sense of, well, obedience to do this and I think some of our listeners may be as well, Bob, and they are thinking how can we do a better job over the coming twenty, twenty-five days through the Christmas season of really celebrating the birth of our Savior.\u00a0 Ace\u2019s book will do a great job of equipping families to do them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it will and we have copies of the book in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center.\u00a0 You can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about how to get a copy of the book, <em>25 Days, 26 Ways to Make This Your Best Christmas Ever<\/em>.\u00a0 Again our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me also mention our listeners may want to get a copy of Barbara Rainey\u2019s book, <em>When Christmas Came<\/em>.\u00a0 A book that is an extended meditation on John 3:16 which really is a Christmas verse.\u00a0 It brings to mind God\u2019s good gift to us of His son Jesus.\u00a0 It also features watercolor work by Barbara Rainey.\u00a0 It\u2019s a beautiful book there is information about that book on our website as well.\u00a0 FamilyLifeToday.com is the site you can order from us online if you\u2019d like or call 1-800-FLTODAY, 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 When you call we will make arrangements to have what you\u2019re looking for sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we think about Christmas as a season for giving I think back on how many of our listeners over the last several years had made contributions, year-end donations to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and we have been very humbled by your generosity, very grateful for your partnership with us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis year we\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry who have stepped forward and have offered a special incentive to try to encourage <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners to once again make a year-end contribution for the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 They have agreed that between now and the end of the year they will match every donation we receive on a dollar for dollar basis up to a total of $1,250,000.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is the largest single matching gift that we have ever been offered and frankly if we are going to take full advantage of this matching gift.\u00a0 We are going to need every <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listener who is in any way inclined to make a donation to either go online at FamilyLifeToday.com or to call 1-800-FLTODAY, 1-800-358-6329 and make a donation over the phone.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain when you make your donation it\u2019s going to be matched dollar for dollar by these friends of the ministry.\u00a0 So you make a $50 donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> they will match it with $50.\u00a0 You make a $100 donation, they will match it.\u00a0 If you make a $5 donation they will match it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we are hoping again to hear from as many of you as possible.\u00a0 Make your donation online at FamilyLifeToday.com or call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 Again let me say thanks in advance for whatever you are able to do in support of this ministry.\u00a0 We do appreciate your financial partnership with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow tomorrow, Michael and Hayley DiMarco are going to join us.\u00a0 We are going to hear about a fascinating journey that they have been on in recent days, meeting people who have a fresh hope here 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year?\u00a0 Or a mighty Christmas?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about that today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> thanks for joining us on the Wednesday edition.\u00a0 I hope that what we\u2019re talking about this week is helping folks get their focus right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, it is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 During the Christmas season.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It has to, it\u2019s talking about Jesus Christ and how we can make Him relevant in our families at Christmas time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes and there is so much in the culture that pulls in a different direction that to stop and take a few minutes each day and just say, all right let\u2019s make sure we\u2019re looking in the right direction.\u00a0 Before we dive into what we want to talk about today, and introduce our guest who is joining us this week.\u00a0 We do need to alert our regular listeners to the fact that we\u2019ve got a special opportunity that has been made available to us here by some friends at the ministry.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs many of our listeners know this has been a challenging year for our ministry, for a lot of ministries and we\u2019ve had to make some adjustments over the last year.\u00a0 Recently we\u2019ve had some friends step forward and say we want to encourage <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners to make a year-end contribution to continue to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo they are offering to match any donation we receive between now and the end of December on a dollar for dollar basis up to a total of $1,250,000.\u00a0 This is the largest matching gift opportunity we have ever received during the month of December.\u00a0 So we\u2019re hoping that we will be able to take full advantage of that 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1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 Make a donation over the phone we would appreciate whatever you are able to do and we want to say thanks in advance for your support of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow as we focus in on Christmas this week and as we talk about how we can get our families spiritually ready for the holiday, we\u2019ve already talked about the spiritual implications of fudge.\u00a0 I want to see if there is some way to get some spiritual meaning out of mistletoe before we are all done here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think you\u2019re going to be surprised by the history behind mistletoe and to get that history, let\u2019s call upon one of America\u2019s master storytellers.\u00a0\u00a0 Ace Collins joins us on the broadcast.\u00a0 Ace you have written sixty books, your name is Ace, I have been wanting to ask this of you because we\u2019ve interviewed you now over a dozen times.\u00a0 Did you get the name Ace because you were a sharpshooter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Nope.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Where did that come from?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 I went to Baylor University and I was one of four Andrew Collins\u2019.\u00a0 So they got us confused a lot and I just happened to be the one of the Andrew Collins\u2019 that had learned how to play Hearts from his grandfather and won a Hearts championship on a run playing the ace of hearts.\u00a0 People started calling me Ace because of that and I spent the next four years trying to escape that name and eventually I was going to write under the name Andrew Collins.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a literary agent who said no there are bunches of Andrew Collins\u2019, Ace is the way to go, because that is what everybody calls you anyway.\u00a0 So my wife wouldn\u2019t know how to introduce me, she didn\u2019t actually introduce me as Ace so that\u2019s what I get.\u00a0 You know my family members because they still call me Andy, but everybody else calls me Ace.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I wondered if there was anyone around who stills says, Andrew.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well when I am in trouble it\u2019s Andrew Jefferson.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well you have written a book called <em>25 Days, 26 Ways to Make This Your Best Christmas Ever<\/em>.\u00a0 It\u2019s really a book that is twenty six days worth of advent.\u00a0 It\u2019s not only all the way through Christmas, but it goes to the 26<sup>th<\/sup> as well and one of the days you do talk about where the concept of mistletoe came from.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, mistletoe is a Christian concept we need to reclaim.\u00a0 I actually was on a \u201clive\u201d show four or five years ago in 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married underneath mistletoe they kissed underneath mistletoe and eventually we lost the faith aspect of the story and it became just the kissing aspect.\u00a0 Let\u2019s take it and remember the Prince of Peace, what stands for the Prince of Peace in that cultures mind was the mistletoe.\u00a0 It was faith that never died.\u00a0 You can reclaim the mistletoe as the Christian symbol that was used by early missionaries 1300 years ago this year if you want to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking we may need to start taking mistletoe to the Weekend to Remember Conference and just passing it out to couples there and explain to them a little bit of what that\u2019s all about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it has a double meaning at that point they can kiss, but they can also celebrate the Prince of Peace who builds marriages and families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And 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trees in at Christmas.\u00a0 Why did they bring them in?\u00a0 It goes kind of like that mistletoe the evergreen didn\u2019t die in the winter time it flourished.\u00a0 Faith flourishes even through the toughest, bleakest times and if you really, really want to do it the way they did it five hundred years ago in Latvia when you bring that tree inside you will nail it to your ceiling and hang it upside down because that is the way they did it.\u00a0 And if you think getting a tree straight on the ground is tough for your wife, wait till you try to put one on the ceiling and get it straight.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut fortunately about five hundred years after that they turned it over so when Martin Luther was decorating a tree it was on his floor and not on the ceiling.\u00a0 The greenery represents the faith that doesn\u2019t die and sustains you through even the toughest times.\u00a0 It\u2019s not like a tree that loses its leaf and is barren.\u00a0 That tree, the 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need.\u00a0 We\u2019ve started doing the draw the name and you get one special thing for a significant person.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen we do what Ace\u2019s family does when it\u2019s time to open the gifts, it\u2019s one at a time and we rotate who goes up under the tree to select the gift and you can\u2019t pick one that\u2019s for you, you have to pick one that is for somebody else so you go find the gift, you deliver it to your sibling and then we all watch as your sibling opens and we can\u2019t go to the next one until that one is open.\u00a0 We make it into quite a little festive celebration and production.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 We have an adaptation of that as well, Bob.\u00a0 The gift is given and the person who gets the gift is the one who gets to not only open the present but also give the next gift to somebody else.\u00a0 Our Christmas mornings at least the last ones we\u2019ve experienced as a family have taken all morning.\u00a0 Because it really stretches it out and allows people to really give the gift.\u00a0 And it\u2019s usually a gift that they have selected that they have given to another person so that\u2019s opened at that point and that person gets to select a gift and it just continues on around.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ve started doing some of your Christmas morning via Skype right?\u00a0 Where you set up the computer and families in other locations are participating?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 People can kind of frown on that, but that really is if as we\u2019ve had in times past one family in Seattle, another family in Florida, another one in Denver, another one in Washington, D.C.\u00a0 I mean it\u2019s not bad to pull together the video on a computer and watch the kids open the presents.\u00a0 Just have somebody open a camera up in the room and it\u2019s not the same as being there, obviously, because you can\u2019t hug them, but they can show off what they have gotten and it really is a lot of fun.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I asked about the peanut butter fudge recipe, its here as a part of Day 22.\u00a0 I think we would have to go ahead and accelerate and have Day 22 back in Week One.\u00a0 Because you have a recipe here for sausage balls, a recipe here for Brenda MacGregor\u2019s.\u00a0 Who is Brenda MacGregor?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 We experimented with all kinds of Christmas cookie recipes and hers is the best.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And then the peanut butter fudge recipe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well there is a reason; there is a cup of butter and a cup and a half of sugar.\u00a0 You should just mainline this stuff, Ace.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 The sweetness of Christmas should never be minimalized.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me tell you something, my mom made bonbons, chocolate bonbons.\u00a0 They were kind of a hard candy that they never got really hard.\u00a0 They were covered by semi-sweet chocolate and then a pecan was placed right on top.\u00a0 They were little nuggets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you have the recipe for it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think we do somewhere, but I wouldn\u2019t want to claim for sure, but every one of those was like nuclear sugar.\u00a0 It was fused.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 There are an awful lot of presents to be opened you need that rush to get through all those presents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And we have taken some of our favorite recipes and put them up on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Food is a big part of the holidays.\u00a0 This is a five to ten pound holiday, Christmas is, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t have to be.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it is for me but I still\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wait a minute.\u00a0 Ace, for Bob it has to be Ace you\u2019re not speaking his love language.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well he can have my part of my five or ten, but I think any time you gather together to celebrate a birthday and that\u2019s what you\u2019re doing at Christmas you need to celebrate in a way that is memorable.\u00a0 One of the ways that was celebrated in Christ\u2019s time was to have feasts at special days.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Every year when I was growing up my grandparents on my mother\u2019s side would drive down from Flint, Michigan to St. Louis to spend Christmas with us.\u00a0 They would usually come for two to three weeks.\u00a0 Now I never stopped to consider that having grandma and grandpa around for two or three weeks was anything other than just wonderful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well they came to thaw out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\u00a0\u00a0 But what I really looked forward to was what they would store in the trunk of the car and that I could open up as soon as they got there and that was a couple of six packs of Vernor\u2019s Ginger Ale.\u00a0 Back in the day you couldn\u2019t get Vernor\u2019s Ginger Ale in St. Louis and so to get it smuggled across the Michigan border and into Missouri was a highlight.\u00a0 Again these are little triggers that bring back memories.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Nothing like fudge cookies and Dr. Pepper.\u00a0 And then of course if grandma really went all out for me because she always bought me one of those really neat looking bottles of Grapette.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you remember spiritual highlights of the holiday as you were growing up?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh yes because there were a very, very important things that you did, the Christmas Eve service, the Christmas cantata.\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember a single Christmas message I\u2019ve ever heard in my entire life.\u00a0 So for the pastors out there, I am sorry.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I can\u2019t tell you how many of my incredible spiritual memories of the holiday wrap around someone singing a solo or a choir special.\u00a0 Or just gathering around a piano at a relative\u2019s house and singing carols yourself or going out and caroling.\u00a0 That was something we did a lot.\u00a0 We would go to sick and shut in people and the memory of one lady.\u00a0 We had moved to Illinois by that time and the lady was in Illinois and she was an elderly lady and she came in and parted the venetian blinds and opened them and watched us sing outside her house.\u00a0 And what that meant to her, she had tears in her eyes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe spiritual element of the holidays is ultimately what it is all about and that\u2019s why I recommended ending the holidays with two things.\u00a0 One, the boxing day which we talked about a couple of days ago, giving the gifts that you get in excess to those who need them the worst.\u00a0 So having another day in which you go out and take gifts out and give them away.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other thing is on Christmas day baking a birthday cake for the Baby Jesus and getting everybody involved.\u00a0 You can have little kids beat it; don\u2019t worry about the mess in the kitchen.\u00a0 Just create it and talk about what the symbolic nature of what you can do through telling the people about Jesus, the resurrection, the colors and everything you use can make a tremendous impact in a child\u2019s life that will go on forever.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother thing we talk about in the book, we talk about shopping off the list.\u00a0 We also talk about doing something else at Christmas that I think is really special.\u00a0 The last I heard is that there is a child that dies every six seconds in the developing world from one of two things.\u00a0 It\u2019s either starvation or it is the lack of a few cents worth of medicine.\u00a0 For twenty, thirty, forty cents a day this child can live.\u00a0 You can stop that gap.\u00a0 There all kinds of different organizations.\u00a0 We list three of them in the book that allow you to spend $25 a month and sponsor a child.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGet together with the kids and everything else and take a little bit of everybody\u2019s Christmas money, pick out an organization sponsor the child and continue to take a little bit of money and continue that sponsorship that next year and then the next year you will have a new photograph of that child and you will find out what\u2019s going on in that child\u2019s life.\u00a0 Every year thereafter that child that you are saving in the third world becomes an important part of your Christmas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think therefore you\u2019re involved once again in reaching out and touching the least of these at Christmas.\u00a0 You are taking gift giving which is really if you go through this book a lot we\u2019re talking about the ways to give 25 days, 26 ways to give and give and give and it\u2019s not giving till it hurts.\u00a0 It\u2019s giving till it blesses you over and over again.\u00a0 And it\u2019s not giving money it\u2019s giving little things.\u00a0\u00a0 But just think eighty-three, eighty-four cents a day you can save a child\u2019s life, by doing that you imprint upon children the importance of sharing with the least of these.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know what?\u00a0 I think there is a new day coming for all of us in the Christian community because the culture is pressing in on us tighter and tighter and we\u2019re going to have to have a big God, a God of grace, a God of forgiveness the God who welcomes us into His family.\u00a0 We\u2019ve got to represent Him in better ways.\u00a0 What better season to do that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ace:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 I tell you what, Christ reached out to a woman at the well who was the equivalent of that and gave her the gift of what?\u00a0 Compassion, understanding, we need to reach out to sinners today giving them the same gifts and there are creative ways at Christmas to get that message across.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ll tell you, God\u2019s at work in my life right now pushing me out of some of my comfort zones, relating to those that I wouldn\u2019t necessarily want to go near, but I\u2019m feeling a sense of, well, obedience to do this and I think some of our listeners may be as well, Bob, and they are thinking how can we do a better job over the coming twenty, twenty-five days through the Christmas season of really celebrating the birth of our Savior.\u00a0 Ace\u2019s book will do a great job of equipping families to do them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it will and we have copies of the book in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center.\u00a0 You can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about how to get a copy of the book, <em>25 Days, 26 Ways to Make This Your Best Christmas Ever<\/em>.\u00a0 Again our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me also mention our listeners may want to get a copy of Barbara Rainey\u2019s book, <em>When Christmas Came<\/em>.\u00a0 A book that is an extended meditation on John 3:16 which really is a Christmas verse.\u00a0 It brings to mind God\u2019s good gift to us of His son Jesus.\u00a0 It also features watercolor work by Barbara Rainey.\u00a0 It\u2019s a beautiful book there is information about that book on our website as well.\u00a0 FamilyLifeToday.com is the site you can order from us online if you\u2019d like or call 1-800-FLTODAY, 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 When you call we will make arrangements to have what you\u2019re looking for sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we think about Christmas as a season for giving I think back on how many of our listeners over the last several years had made contributions, year-end donations to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and we have been very humbled by your generosity, very grateful for your partnership with us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis year we\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry who have stepped forward and have offered a special incentive to try to encourage <em>FamilyLife 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