{"id":301900,"date":"2009-10-06T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-10-06T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/i-am-not-you\/"},"modified":"2009-10-06T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2009-10-06T15:00:00","slug":"i-am-not-you","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/i-am-not-you\/","title":{"rendered":"I Am Not You"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today on the broadcast, Dennis Rainey talks with best-selling authors Shaunti Feldhahn and Lisa Rice about their book, For Parents Only.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2009-10-06.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"10.52M","filesize_raw":"11027017","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2855,2870],"tags":[4798,2209,2588],"podcast_series":[7545],"cwp_profile":[9088,3204],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-301900","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-teens","category-tweens","tag-kids","tag-parenting","tag-teens","podcast_series-for-parents-only","cwp_profile-lisa-rice","cwp_profile-shaunti-feldhahn","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/301900\/i-am-not-you","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/301900\/i-am-not-you","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"SHVMTIvDXF\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/i-am-not-you\/\">I Am Not You<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/i-am-not-you\/embed\/#?secret=SHVMTIvDXF\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;I Am Not You&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"SHVMTIvDXF\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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They said there's a fine associated with that kind of behavior, and they wanted to talk to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 The statute of limitations ran out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You think you're safe, huh?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That was 1964 when that happened, Bob, and I'm sorry but no law is in force \u2013 what you're speaking of is what I mentioned earlier on the broadcast, and that was that I unhooked the odometer when my dad gave me the car the first night I took it out.\u00a0 He only told me I could go five miles, and, I mean, good grief, it was at least a half a mile to get to wherever everybody was, and then I had to be able to cruise.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah, you had to drive everybody around.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I had to cruise.\u00a0 You know, you can \u2013 just going around a place like Sonic, and cruising around Sonic, you could rack up five miles \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026 in the parking lot at Sonic?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we have a couple of guests with us who know a little bit about the thinking and the behavior of teens \u2013 Shaunti Feldhahn and Lisa Rice join us.\u00a0 Lisa, Shaunti, welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 Good to be with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Both Shaunti and Lisa are writers.\u00a0 Lisa is a freelance writer of books and for movie producers, a screenwriter.\u00a0 She has three children and a foster child, so right now she has three, count 'em \u2013 three teenagers \u2013 16, 17, and 18.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShaunti is the author of <em>For Women Only<\/em> and, along with her husband, <em>For Men Only<\/em>, and is a prolific writer.\u00a0 This latest one they're co-authoring is called <em>For Parents Only<\/em>, and what you all did is you surveyed \u2013 well, it ended up being more than 1,200 teenagers from all across the nation, is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You came away with six findings, and earlier we talked about one of the findings being that teenagers are addicted to freedom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 Freedom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 One of the most important findings besides that that you came up with is that the issue of identity is huge when it comes to teens.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, this is one of these cases where I think most parents know that children have to go through different developmental stages.\u00a0 They don't realize that what that looks like in the teenage years will actually look a lot like rejection to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe way we explain it is in the sort of grade school and middle school years, they have a developmental stage where they look at mom and dad, and they say, \"Who is mom and dad?\u00a0 What is it like to be a man or a woman,\" and they're sort of soaking you in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a seven-year-old daughter, and this is when \u2013 oh, she loves nothing better than to dress just like Mommy.\u00a0 You know, if we both have black pants and a pink shirt on, she's just happy as a clam for the day.\u00a0 But, you know, somewhere around the age of 12, and it's 11 for some kids, 13 for others, they click into a new developmental stage, and it happens, in some cases, almost overnight.\u00a0 It's no longer who is mom and dad, but who am I?\u00a0 And that little girl who wanted to dress just like you is suddenly embarrassed to be seen with you much less where something that is an identical outfit.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe parents know that they need to create their own identity but we think they are starting from scratch somehow.\u00a0 They aren\u2019t starting from scratch.\u00a0\u00a0 They are starting from you because the only identity they have ever known is yours.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so they have to basically \u2013 it's like building their own building.\u00a0 The only building blocks they have are yours, and they have to basically pull apart your building, and they have to pull out each block, and they say, you know, \"Gosh,\" hold it up to the light, and \"I know I've heard this my whole life, I know this is what my parents believe, I know this is a value or whatever of our family, is this what I believe?\u00a0 Is this who I am?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd they basically have to get some distance from you, and that process will be really scary for some parents who think it means \"They're rejecting everything I've taught them.\"\u00a0 And it's not.\u00a0 It's just that they have to pull it apart in order to decide, \"Is this me?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Really, what you're talking about is closely related to the freedom \u2013 they're trying to become their own person, and a part of the reason is to establish their own identity and to learn who they are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think there are two key areas parents need to be aware of here.\u00a0 One, they need to know who they are related to God; and, secondly, they need to know who they are as a girl or as a boy.\u00a0 I mean, what's the first question we ask when they have the ultrasound done or the baby is born?\u00a0 What is it?\u00a0 Is it a boy or is it a girl?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that's what we celebrate.\u00a0 We celebrate masculinity or femininity at birth and, you know, the question of what is it really isn't answered until they become an adult, and they begin to truly fulfill their role as a man or as a woman.\u00a0 And a parent is the one, as you just said, Shaunti, a parent is the one who coaches that child in embracing biblical masculinity and maleness and biblical femininity.\u00a0 Because you really can't find out who you are without reference to God \u2013 either man or woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, this is what we've experienced as our kids have gone through the teen years.\u00a0 You recognize that they do need to assert their own sense of self; that they've got to be their own person.\u00a0 And yet some of the things that become a part of their own person are things that \u2013 and, again, I'm not talking about moral choices, but their preferences, their choices that they're making that you go, \"Oh, that's not a good one.\u00a0 I don't like that particular choice.\" Whether it's a fashion \u2013 in fact, Lisa, you had a situation where one of your children didn't like the way you were dressing; thought it was \u2013 do you know what I'm talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely, yes.\u00a0 Oh, that was so funny.\u00a0 My kids suddenly got into the thing of mom is just so funny in her uncoolness, and one day they brought me down to watch this video called \"Mom Pants.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \"Mom Pants?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 Making the rounds of teenagedom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is.\u00a0 I think you can find it on YouTube, and it shows these moms dancing, and they have these, like, high-waisted, elastic-waisted jeans that are so uncool, and they just don't have any flair, they don't come down on the hips and on and on, and they're, like, \"Mom, that's you.\u00a0 You've got tons of Mom pants.\u00a0 I mean, how long have you owned the ones you're wearing right now?\"\u00a0 I'm, like, not more than 10 or 15 years, come on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so they took me to this cool store, American Eagle, and I was the only mom in the dressing room, but they insisted that I buy some cool jeans, and so now I'm a little cooler in the way that I dress, but they find tons of other things now to make fun of me for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 They really do have a craving for asserting the fact that they're different than you.\u00a0 That's deep in them, and it's not that they don't like you or they're trying to be disrespectful, but they've got to be them, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 That is the thing that we are trying so hard \u2013 we're like, parents, please hear this.\u00a0 It really will feel like rejection in some cases.\u00a0 It really will feel like that even if they are not being disrespectful it will seem a little bit like disrespect.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have to realize that they have to get some sense of distance in order to be able to question and be able to ask you questions.\u00a0 And if you react like, \"What are you talking about?\u00a0 We've done this our whole lives.\"\u00a0 You've just basically made clear those are your building blocks not theirs.\u00a0 They're going to have to get even more distance but next time they may not talk to you about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here is how this is happening around our house right now.\u00a0 My 16-year-old son, who is very politically aware and astute is trying to line up his preferences and which candidates he's supporting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he'll come up, and he'll say \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026 and he's embracing yours, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, actually, that's kind of the point \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2026 that I'm trying to make.\u00a0 He'll come in, and he'll say, \"You know, I really think this particular candidate looks like a good candidate.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it's the same party as yours, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Would you be care \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 Turn that knife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 I'm just thinking, \"Son, you're out of your mind.\u00a0 For that \u2013 come on.\u00a0 I've taught you better than this to make that kind of a value judgment and assessment.\"\u00a0 If I do that, as a parent, then I really drive them deeper into their choice, don't I?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 That is exactly it.\u00a0 It is truly that in order for them to have the ability to really question who am I, and in order to have that distance, the more that a parent presses the matter, and this is including on some really important things that you cannot compromise on \u2013 the more you press it, the more you do make clear, \"This is you, as a parent, this is not him.\u00a0 The more he's going to have to get distance.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe thing that the kids told us that was so cool, though, is that they said on the survey, is that secretly if mom and dad will just make clear what they believe, not compromise, say we've seen this our whole lives, you know, this is important, but why don't you work on this and figure out what you think that the kids said, \"You know, I'll probably come back around to the starting point,\" because \u2013 and one thing we should have said right at the beginning is we're not saying just because we heard it a lot from the kids that it's necessarily acceptable or appropriate \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is important.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is important to say but there is something to be said for we heard it a lot, because this is secretly in their heads whether or not they ever express it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the thing that we were really interested in is the kids made the distinction between, you know what?\u00a0 Sometimes it is just us, like, experimenting with our hair or whatever we want to put on MySpace or stuff in our room, and it's like this outward, evolving expression of trying to figure out who we are on the inside, right, is what we're looking like on the outside.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey basically said, you know, \"If it's not a moral issue, you know, just, can't you let us experiment?\"\u00a0 You know, if we want to have a blue streak in our hair just because we think that that's really funky does that really matter so much?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 Or a second piercing in the ear.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, does it really matter so much?\u00a0 Now, if it's some of these unhealthy things, that's part of the taking charge issue where they know the parent not the friend.\u00a0 But that issue of, can you, like, appreciate us?\u00a0 Instead of saying, like one girl \u2013 we were so fascinated by this, and kind of sad when she said, \"My mom is always ragging on me for always being on the go.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0She said, \"How much better would it be if she would just say, 'Wow, you're really becoming an extrovert.\u00a0 You're really learning to fly, and it's so neat how you have so many friends, and you're able to juggle so many things.'\u00a0 I would love it if she would have affirmed the person that I feel like I'm becoming rather than sort of, 'Oh, well, you're always on the go, and you're just doing too many things.'\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Dennis, this is an important point, I think, for parents.\u00a0 We do have a tendency to want our children to be little version of us, and that's not necessarily the right thing, is it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, it's not the way they're thinking.\u00a0 In fact, in their book, they ask the question \u2013 \"Which of the following best describes how you feel?\u00a0 Choose one answer.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\"I am content with adopting the life, taste, values, and goals of my parents.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, what percent of teenagers do you think said, \"I best identify with that statement?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I'd like to be like my parents, essentially?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Not many.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Not many is right \u2013 7 percent.\u00a0 Ninety-three percent said this \u2013 \"Even if I love my parents, I want to have my own life, my own tastes, values, and goals, and sometimes these opinions will be different from theirs.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe've been laughing about this, but we have to give our children the freedom to grow up and be different than us, and different isn't wrong, it's just different.\u00a0 I think you made a very important point, Shaunti, especially if it's not in the moral arena.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, when they start pushing back against our moral standards, which they must do also, they have to learn this, and they have to learn that when you break one of God's laws, there is pain associated.\u00a0 What we, as parents, need to be careful to do is not rescue them from the pain.\u00a0 That's going to be part of the process of helping them grow up, and it's why, as parents, I think it's very important to have consequences when they do go against our moral standards.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me take you back, though, to the parent who is saying, \"I want my kids to adopt my life, my tastes, my values and my goals.\u00a0 I'm an adult and I've thought these things through.\u00a0 My goals, tastes, and values are biblical, and I feel rejected if my child does have different tastes and goals.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You're going to feel rejected.\u00a0 Get over it.\u00a0 As a parent, you're going to feel rejected.\u00a0 They have to break away, and I'll tell you, I think it's hardest on a mom, I really do.\u00a0 I watched this with Barbara and with me, and I think some of it is the close proximity that a mother has had to her children compared to a father in this culture, plus I think it's how a mother's heart is knit to her children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe is a nourisher, she's one who helps these children grow up in some very specific ways, and what you have to do as a mom is you have to realize those boys have got to become men, and to do that they can't be their mommy's boy anymore.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, that sounds so tragic.\u00a0 That's so harsh and tough.\u00a0 Now, you only have daughters that are teenagers right now, correct, Lisa?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 That's right, and I have a 12-year-old son, but this exact point that you're touching on, we saw over and over in our focus groups.\u00a0 As a matter of fact, one thing, and, Bob, you touched on this, too, sometimes in this identity thing we have to see if there is sort of a fear in our children that's \u2013 and if the enemy is planting a lie about their identity, it is time to step in and say, \"This is not who you are.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor instance, we had one boy in one of the focus groups who shared a really cool story.\u00a0 He said, \"When I was in high school, some things were happening, and I started thinking I might be gay.\u00a0 I started looking at the other guys in the locker room and seeing how their muscles were rippling, and I started kind of envying them and thinking \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 They were good looking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 They were good-looking, and the enemy said, \"Well, that's because you're gay.\"\u00a0 He said, \"So this is when a father can step in.\"\u00a0 You know, you're talking about this mother thing but now comes the key role of the father, and this father was so fantastic.\u00a0 He came in, and the son just poured his heart out, and the father said, \"You know what, son?\u00a0 That is totally normal for you to look and see and want to be like them and want to be good-looking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 He said, \"It's just envy.\u00a0 It's not that you're gay, it's envy.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 He said, \"You are good-looking, and you'll continue to become more and more like this,\" he said, \"But you are not gay.\u00a0 You were made to be straight.\u00a0 God has such a plan for you,\" and he affirmed him.\u00a0 He said all it took was that one afternoon of his dad just meeting him right there at his point of fear.\u00a0 So sometimes the parents do need to really step in and say, \"No, this is not your identity.\u00a0 You're being fed a lie.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 In this culture, that issue about sexual identity, perhaps being gay, is going to be a thought that does cross your teenager's mind.\u00a0 Count on it.\u00a0 And it's a part, I think, of the culture distorting how God made us male and female.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think one of the great challenges for parents today is to respond like you just described, Lisa.\u00a0 That father was very, very wise of not overreacting, not shaming his son for having had the thought, but saying, \"You know what?\u00a0 It's okay to have those thoughts,\" and give him the freedom to have those thoughts but create safety in the relationship to bring him back to the truth and then perhaps follow up at a later time, saying, \"How are you doing on that?\u00a0 What have been your thoughts since then?\u00a0 How are you thinking about yourself as a man moving forward?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is a big issue for young men, but, I'm going to tell you, it's also a big issue for girls.\u00a0 On the Internet, on Facebook and a number of these social networking groups that are found there, there are pictures of girls kissing girls.\u00a0 It's kind of the cool thing to do today, and there's all kinds of peer pressure around these issues, and moms and dads have got to think through how they're going to address the issue before it happens.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, you know, the thing that is so interesting, as we were talking to all these kids and hearing some of those kinds of stories, there was a common denominator that we felt was so important for parents to realize, is that these kids, there were some of these kids that felt they could talk to their parents about it, and some who felt they couldn't.\u00a0 And that was a huge deal in the stories we heard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause if you will try to take the chance to understand inside, you know, on some of the things the kid is feeling and not overreact, they will talk to you more, and you'll get a chance to speak into their life that otherwise they're going to get that information from somewhere else.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That's right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shaunti:<\/strong>\u00a0 We actually had one girl who told us a story that just killed us, where she said, you know, one of her best girlfriends really was having all this sexual temptation when she was a teenager, and she couldn't talk to her parents, so she talked to her mother's sister.\u00a0 But the mother's sister didn't have the same values, she wasn't a Christian, and so she gave her niece birth control pills.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis girl is telling her friend that, \"Oh, wow, that was so compassionate that my aunt did that for me,\" and the girl we were talking to was, like, that was so sad that she couldn't talk to her own mom and own dad and be able to get an answer that was so much more in line with the biblical values that the family shared, but it was only because she didn't feel like she'd be heard or understood.\u00a0 So that was a huge common denominator.\u00a0 We need to learn to understand and listen to our children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think all the times I've talked to parents who have resisted the temptation to freak out when their kids have come and said, \"You know, I've been thinking about 'X,' whatever that is, and your instinct is to lock them in their room until they come back to their sanity, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hit the panic button.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And the mom or the dad overcomes the impulse and goes, \"Well, tell me why you've been thinking about that?\"\u00a0 And that is a determinative point \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lisa:<\/strong>\u00a0 It's huge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026 in whether your child is going to continue to talk to you about this or go to their aunt and get bad counsel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, Bob, what Shaunti and Lisa have done a great job in their book is helping parents understand where some of these hot-button issues are, and I so appreciate what you've done here and for being on the broadcast.\u00a0 I just want to encourage parents here \u2013 the teenage years are a time when the teens, if you let them, will push you out of their lives.\u00a0 They will push you out at the very time, in my opinion, they need you most.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf there is ever a time in a young person's life in this culture, when they need to know what their spiritual identity is, and their sexual identity is, and get it from the right person who has the right values, it's today.\u00a0 It's from Christian moms and dads who are Christ-followers, who will point their children back to the Scripture and to a biblical definition of what it means to be a man and a woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And for a mom and dad to have a leg up on what's going on, it helps to get a copy of the book that Shaunti and Lisa have written and better understand.\u00a0 I mean, I guess if we think back hard enough, maybe we can remember what it was like to be an adolescent, but it's a different world today, and there are different issues and different pressures that our sons and daughters are facing, and I think this book shows us kind of what's going on in the mind of a contemporary adolescent, and it helps us, as a mom and dad, better understand how we can guide our sons and our daughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe've got the book in our FamilyLifeToday Resource Center.\u00a0 Let me encourage our listeners to go online to get a copy at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 The book is 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