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to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Bob, what did you think about Coke classic when it came back after\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 \u2026after New Coke?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 I thought they blew it on that one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 I thought New Coke was a serious misstep and we were right on that one.\u00a0 Bringing back the classic was the thing to do wasn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Everybody enjoys the classic.\u00a0 I like ESPN classics and today on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> we want to bring you one of our classics.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 This is an interview that we recorded back in 1996 with Elisabeth Elliot.\u00a0 It really does rank as one of our top all time favorite interviews.\u00a0 It was a delight to sit down with a woman who I look at as a spiritual hero.\u00a0 For those people who don\u2019t know Elisabeth\u2019s husband Jim was martyred in 1956 in Ecuador.\u00a0 They had been married 17 or 18 months when Jim died.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here was Elisabeth with her little baby girl and a husband who had just been killed in a foreign land.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And she went back to the tribe that had murdered her husband.\u00a0 She ended up with a spiritual breakthrough as she modeled what forgiveness and redemption looks like.\u00a0 You mentioned that she was and is a spiritual hero.\u00a0 She\u2019s also spunky and I think that\u2019s part of why we like this broadcast.\u00a0 She has a rhy smile and a twinkle in her eyes that is infectous.\u00a0 I think our listeners are really going to enjoy hearing her talk about quest for love.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 The subject we engaged her on is one that she has written about.\u00a0 Dating, relationships, marriage and what the Bible has to say about that.\u00a0 She has some background it that.\u00a0\u00a0 She met her husband Jim while they were both students at Wheaton College.\u00a0 They went their separate ways and ultimately God brought them together.\u00a0 They were married for a short time and then he was martyred.\u00a0 She then after a period of years met the man who became her second husband, Addison Leach, and he contracted cancer.\u00a0 They were married for four years and I remember when we had interviewed her she had married her third husband, Lars Gren, and she told us she had been single more years of her life than she had been married.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 She understood as a result that challenges of relationships and she had written very practically to singles about how to and how not to pursue relationships.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, and she really writes to singles about what I would consider a new standard of a dating relationship.\u00a0 It is one that is not really talked about or heard about in this culture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 She wrote a book called <em>Passion and Purity<\/em> that became a classic.\u00a0 People read that book and then responded to her with stories of their own dating relationships and that became the book <em>Quest for Love<\/em>.\u00a0 When we sat down with her in 1996 to talk about it was about the stories she had heard from people about their dating relationships.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0Explain to our listeners what <em>Quest for Love<\/em> is all about and why you wrote it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think the dating system as it\u2019s conducted today is a minefield.\u00a0 It is a very dangerous place through which you must tiptoe very carefully.\u00a0 And I would like to abolish dating altogether but on the other hand, I realize that there used to be some rules that made sense.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy purpose in writing <em>Quest for Love<\/em> was to help young people to realize that there are biblical principles which have been ignored.\u00a0 They\u2019re just unknown to the average young person, even the average young Christian today.\u00a0 And I\u2019ve compiled stories, some from old biographies of another century, some from contemporary ones.\u00a0 I\u2019ve received wonderful stories from some young people who have amazing courtship stories to tell of how God brought them together in most unexpected ways, without going through all the agonies of smelling every rose in the world and then coming back and finding it\u2019s the rose in your own backyard that God has picked out for you.\u00a0 As I was reading through these stories \u2013 and I also should mention that the book includes some wild and crazy stories\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It really does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026that I have received from readers of <em>Passion and Purity<\/em>, who say, in effect, \u201cIf only I\u2019d had this book five years sooner or two years sooner\u201d or \u201cWhy didn\u2019t my parents tell me this, why didn\u2019t my teachers, why didn\u2019t the pastor?\u201d\u00a0 You know, these older people that are supposed to have given them guidance apparently hadn\u2019t done that.\u00a0 I put those stories in, the wild and crazy ones, with the hope that my readers have sufficient discernment to see which are the ones which are exemplary and which are the ones to be deplored.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo the contrast between these various methods ought to get a certain message across.\u00a0 But, you know, it wasn\u2019t until I had almost finished writing the book, Dennis, that it dawned on me that in virtually every single case where the courtship was done right, barring all these wild and crazy ones, there was a third party involved.\u00a0 And right away people get all twitchy if you mention anything that sounds like matchmaking.\u00a0 You know, \u201cI don\u2019t want anybody telling me who I\u2019m going to marry.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to find my own husband or wife.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod\u2019s purpose from the very beginning, I believe, is that older people, wise people, somebody else should have a part in bringing two people together.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t have to be an older person, necessarily.\u00a0 I\u2019m sure that some of our listeners are familiar with the story of Abraham sending out his servant to find a wife for Isaac.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have any idea that the servant was older but we know the specific things that he did.\u00a0 He went in obedience, of course, to his master Abraham.\u00a0 He went with a specific purpose in mind and he went to the logical place where women could be observed with propriety, which was the town well.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe stood there and he did two things that I don\u2019t think very many young men today have ever thought of doing.\u00a0 One was he watched quietly and he prayed silently.\u00a0 It\u2019s observation of character that young men need to learn before any kind of a conversation takes place, let alone a date.\u00a0 And I, myself, know the value of that because I had observed Jim Elliot on the college campus for months before he and I ever had a personal conversation.\u00a0 And when we had the personal conversation, it wasn\u2019t on any level of intimacy whatsoever.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were talking about scripture passages.\u00a0 We were talking about Amy Carmichael\u2019s writing and it blew my mind to find a man who happened to be a champion wrestler \u2013 I mean, he was a real he-man \u2013 who was a fan of Amy Carmichael to the point where he had memorized some of her poetry.\u00a0 We found that God had been dealing with us through the same hymns.\u00a0 So there were a lot of things that we discovered in common.\u00a0 We were not talking about feelings.\u00a0 But it was through observation and, of course, in both of our cases, we were certainly praying silently.\u00a0 We were not talking to each other about a \u201crelationship.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe minute I hear that word relationship, I know that that young person is in trouble.\u00a0 I want to say to them, \u201cWhat kind of a relationship is this?\u00a0 How would you define it?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cWell, I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 I mean, like, you know, it\u2019s just really neat.\u00a0 I mean, he\u2019s just a really good friend.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWait a minute.\u00a0 Is this any different from all the rest of your really good friends?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cOh, yeah.\u00a0 You know, I mean, like, you know, well, we\u2019ve really been enjoying each other\u2019s company and etcetera, etcetera.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the word relationship is a pitfall already because according to scripture there are only three possible relationships between one man and one woman and it never falls into those three categories when I press these girls as to what this relationship is.\u00a0 And those relationships are brother and sister, which would apply to all Christian men and all Christian women.\u00a0 You two men, Bob and Dennis, are my brothers in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 So we \u2013 and I am your sister.\u00a0 But you would never dream of saying \u201cI\u2019m in a relationship with Elisabeth Elliot.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 If you did, I mean, the whole world would be buzzing.\u00a0 But the only other two are betrothal and marriage.\u00a0 So when they start talking about being in a relationship, they\u2019re already in the soup.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, now, Elizabeth, hold it right there.\u00a0 There\u2019s a single woman going, she\u2019s going, \u201cHey, wait a second.\u00a0 How do I establish a relationship that moves to marriage if I don\u2019t have a relationship?\u201d\u00a0 I mean, how do you get there from here, Elisabeth?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m going to give an answer that young people are going to say, \u201cWhat?!\u00a0 I mean, really, is that the only thing I\u2019m supposed to do?\u201d\u00a0 My answer is, \u201cWait on the Lord.\u00a0 Trust God.\u00a0 The shepherd is much more interested in getting the sheep where the sheep belong, than the sheep are in getting there.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you think that the Lord of the universe knows how to bring you to the right man or the right man to you at the right time?\u00a0 Do you think He knows how?\u00a0 You have got to learn to trust and obey.\u00a0 Everything I have to say in all of my books comes down to those two simple words: trust and obey.\u00a0 And God\u2019s been doing it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe thing I always want to say to young people who say, \u201cWell, how in the world am I ever going to find somebody to marry if I don\u2019t date?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cHow in the world do you think most of the marriages throughout most of human history have occurred?\u00a0 There was no such thing as dating.\u00a0 It\u2019s a very recent phenomenon.\u00a0 Just because it happens to be what is done in our culture doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s the only way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 I want a little personal coaching here.\u00a0 I\u2019m the father of a 15-year old daughter.\u00a0 What should I be doing \u2013 what should Mary Ann and I be doing with our daughter if we wanted to move her in the direction of a biblical approach to finding a mate?\u00a0 And then what\u2019s our responsibility in that process?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, of course, you\u2019re praying and that is by far the most important thing, that God will preserve that woman, that dear girl and her virginity.\u00a0 It\u2019s a gift you can only give away once.\u00a0 Do you want to give it to the right person or the wrong person?\u00a0 And bringing young people together in your home, and I think that\u2019s one of the most important things.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI should write another whole book, I guess, about the responsibility that we older people have to make young people available to each other.\u00a0 My father met my mother at dinner at the home of an old lady.\u00a0 She was a very wealthy lady who used to invite crowds of young people to her house for the very purpose of making it possible for them to meet each other in a safe environment.\u00a0 So my father took a shine to my mother at that dinner and then asked if he could visit her in her home.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s extremely important, as I said, that there should be a third party, whether its parents or godly older people in the church, whoever.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I\u2019m listening here and I\u2019m thinking that would make an incredible ministry of an older couple having singles after church or, for that matter, before church into their home to provide an opportunity for fellowship, recreation, interaction, Bible study, prayer.\u00a0 And perhaps would be an answer to the sweatshops and the bar scene that lures them away from the spiritual content of the scriptures.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It sounds to me like your dad was able to meet your mom because of that very situation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\u00a0 And I want to get a message across very loud and clear to the older people.\u00a0 Of course, Titus 2 says that the older men are to be teaching the younger men, and the older women are to be teaching the younger women.\u00a0 I don\u2019t find that happening in very many churches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 The older men and women are tooling around in fancy mobile homes, they\u2019re going to Arizona to play golf.\u00a0 They\u2019re not available anymore.\u00a0 And they would say to me, \u201cThe young people do not want our advice.\u201d\u00a0 And the young people say to me, \u201cThe older people that you\u2019re describing are not available.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I have asked for a show of hands a number of times when I\u2019ve been speaking to a large audience, \u201cMay I see the hands of you older people who would be willing to be available?\u201d\u00a0 And they\u2019re always quite a few hands that go up.\u00a0 Then I say, \u201cMay I see the hands of the young people who are willing to listen to advice?\u201d\u00a0 Lots of hands go up.\u00a0 So it\u2019s very important that young people be willing to run by an older person their interest in a person of the opposite sex, to say to them, \u201cDoes this seem like a sensible match to you?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019re much more likely to have a successful marriage if there has been a third party in there praying for them, advising them.\u00a0 And again, I have to go back to my own experience.\u00a0 Not only did I have godly parents who were praying for me and protecting me, but I had four or five spiritual mothers who were available in places where my mother was not available.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor example, after college I went to Prairie Bible Institute in Alberta, Canada.\u00a0 The wife of one of the staff members there, a sweet old Scottish lady whom I called Mom Cunningham, my Canadian mom, listened to my heartbreaks over Jim Elliot.\u00a0 She was just there.\u00a0 She said, \u201cOh, Betty, dear.\u00a0 If you ever want a cup of Scottish tea and a scone, just pop down to my little apartment and we\u2019ll just have a little talk.\u201d\u00a0 And I would pop down to her little apartment on a wintry bitter day and she would put the kettle on and she would get out the Scottish scones.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would talk about Jim Elliot practically all the time, whereupon she would get out her Bible, she\u2019d read the Bible, she\u2019d pray for me and she prayed from then on until Jim and I got married.\u00a0 I think she was one of God\u2019s instruments in bringing us together.\u00a0 She had never met Jim.\u00a0 She was thousands of miles away from him.\u00a0 But I listened to her and I poured out my heart to her.\u00a0 Where are these white-haired people that ought to be available?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And so we need to call upon the older generation to step into the lives of the young generation and pull them toward maturity.\u00a0 We need to challenge them to holiness, godliness, to responsibility, to moral purity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But as we\u2019ve asked these questions, Elisabeth, it seems to me the shortage isn\u2019t of the young people who want to learn.\u00a0 It\u2019s of the older people who are afraid they won\u2019t know what to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 They are fearful that they won\u2019t have the answers to the younger generation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth: <\/strong>\u00a0Mom Cunningham was a very simple, lovely, sweet, simple person.\u00a0 She and her husband had lived on Great Slave Lake way up in Northwest Territory and they were the only white people.\u00a0 She was the only white woman on that whole lake.\u00a0 They were all Indians.\u00a0 She was a godly woman.\u00a0 And I don\u2019t remember asking her a whole lot of hard questions about, you know, what do I say to Jim or how do I get him interested in me.\u00a0 I\u2019m sure I didn\u2019t ask questions like that.\u00a0 She opened the Bible.\u00a0 The person who says, \u201cOh, well, I wouldn\u2019t know what to say to them,\u201d tell them you\u2019ll pray.\u00a0 And certainly, anybody with a little distance from a couple who think they\u2019re made for each other will have some opinion as to whether this looks like a good match.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Should a parent be involved in arranging a marriage for a son or a daughter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I really think so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now how do I do that as a dad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 If a young man is interested in your daughter and wants to take her out, say on a date, then he has to run that by you.\u00a0 He has to come to you first.\u00a0 And you meet the man, you talk to him, you get some idea of what sort of a person this is and how he\u2019s going to treat your daughter.\u00a0 So that\u2019s essential.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think it\u2019s very important, if possible, that both parents \u2013 the parents of the boy and the girl \u2013 have some communication.\u00a0 And this, of course, ideally is two sets of Christian parents that we\u2019re talking about.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t always work that way, but God knows how to take care of that, too.\u00a0 We need to learn to trust the Lord to give us wisdom when the time comes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you wouldn\u2019t leave a young person to make that decision of who they marry on their own, as a parent now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely not.\u00a0 And I hadn\u2019t realized until I began studying my own family \u2013 my four brothers, my sister and me \u2013 just how much influence our parents had on all of us.\u00a0 And there\u2019s only one member out of the six of us who actually went against our parents\u2019 wishes and that one person is divorced.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re confirming something that I\u2019ve been sensing and Bob\u2019s going to probably look at me and smile now because he knows that I have four daughters and two sons and none of them are married yet.\u00a0 But as Barbara and I have prayed and talked and interacted with our children as they become young adults, I personally have felt, Elisabeth, that most parents become more and more distant from their children as they begin to move into the age of becoming married and move into the process of selecting a spouse.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I look at it, certainly not controlling them, certainly not being God in their lives because they have to have their own walk with God and dependence upon him, but I see them as still needing our wisdom, our counsel, our advice and our discernment as they move into these dating relationships.\u00a0 And I think it\u2019s very important that the parents do talk to the parents of the young man who is dating your daughter, or of the young lady who is dating your son, especially if it becomes serious.\u00a0 I sense a need for those families to be connected just so the godly parents can discern what God is doing here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t agree more, Dennis.\u00a0 I really don\u2019t want to hear about dating, you know, unless it\u2019s groups.\u00a0 And that was the case back in my parents\u2019 day.\u00a0 No self-respecting man or woman would go out alone with a member of the opposite sex.\u00a0 If my father wanted to take my mother out of that living room to a concert, for example, or to a meal, he had to get another couple or a chaperone.\u00a0 But they would never go out alone.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo you fathers of girls have to take your part, your responsibility in seeing to it that nice Christian young men come to your home.\u00a0 And your daughters are allowed to go to Christian homes where there are men, and you get to know them.\u00a0 When you invite the man to your home, you know, go on a family picnic and see how he treats your wife, for example.\u00a0 It\u2019s very important to observe the way a man treats older women and his own peers.\u00a0 There are many ways in which the character is revealed and we need to emphasize character over looks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure if it\u2019s the result of the epidemic of insecure men who have become husbands and fathers today, or a lack of faith and true godliness in the Christian community.\u00a0 But these thoughts we\u2019re talking about here, I don\u2019t sense them being reinforced by the Christian community with a legion of voices.\u00a0 I\u2019ve talked about some of these ideas on this broadcast and before audiences and I kind of feel like at times, Elisabeth, as though I\u2019m a lone voice and you\u2019re sensing from the young people, \u201cYes, we want our parents.\u00a0 Yes, we are desirous of their involvement in our lives.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But the parents are afraid.\u00a0 It seems Christian leaders don\u2019t want to step into this.\u00a0 It looks heavy-handed.\u00a0 And yet, as you point out in your book how much worse does it need to get, the divorce rate \u2013 how much more does the church need to be crippled by broken marriages and families before we realize the present system isn\u2019t working.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we\u2019d better, as dads and as moms, re-think the whole dating thing, re-think the whole courtship thing, re-think the whole opposite sex touching one another, and step into it with a prayerful heart, asking God to give us wisdom.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have to have all the answers before we step in there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we\u2019ve been listening back to an interview that was recorded back in 1996 with Elisabeth Elliot.\u00a0 I\u2019m listening to it thinking so what has changed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Not much right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think the same message that was relevant back then may be 2X more relevant today.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And your convictions about what need to happen haven\u2019t changed either.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, my goodness.\u00a0 We are strident here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> wanting to encourage and strengthen moms and dads to build this kind of thinking into the lives of their young people.\u00a0 Because if you don\u2019t the culture is going to get them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m not a doomsdayer I just know that with all the electronic media that is coming at our kids there are more ways today for our kids to be seduced by the culture than ever before.\u00a0\u00a0 So moms and dads you have to have the right kinds of standards and the right kind of relationship and be calling your children to those standards.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes, and we have tried here at FamilyLife to provide moms and dads with a variety of resources to help you do that at different stages in your children\u2019s lives.\u00a0 For example we have The Passport to Purity resource for when your kids are preteens so that you can start to have the conversation with them about relationships and about the opposite sex and what that is going to look like for them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour son, Samuel, and your daughter, Rebecca, wrote together with you and Barbara called <em>So You\u2019re About to Be a Teenager<\/em>.\u00a0 That\u2019s for young teens to be able to read on their own.\u00a0 Then there are books like the one we have talked about today that Elisabeth Elliot <em>Passion and Purity<\/em> and the follow up to it <em>Quest for Love<\/em>.\u00a0 Those are timeless resources not just to hand off to your teenager and say here read this but to read through together with your teen.\u00a0 To use it as an opportunity as a conversation starter.\u00a0 Read a chapter each week on your own and then the two of you go out to Starbucks or go out somewhere that your teen likes and talk about what\u2019s in the chapter.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have copies of all of these resources in the FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 Go to our web site FamilyLife Today.com to find out more about these resources.\u00a0 You can order from us if you\u2019d like or call 1-800-FL-TODAY.\u00a0 That\u2019s 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in Family, \u201cL\u201d as in Life and then the word TODAY and someone on our team will let you know how you can get any of the resources sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to add a note here to remind you that <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is listener supported and those of you who listen regularly I know that some of you 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It\u2019s a two CD set of our conversation with Pastor Chip Ingram on the subject we\u2019ve been talking about today.\u00a0 He had just written a book called <em>Love, Sex, and Lasting Relationships<\/em> and he had some very helpful things to say for singles about how you evaluate relationships.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are happy to send you these two CDs to you as our way of saying thank you for your financial support of this ministry.\u00a0 When you make a donation of any amount this month for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> if you make your donation online at FamilyLifeToday.com you\u2019ll want to type the word \u201clove\u201d in the key code box on the online donation form so we\u2019ll know to send you the CDs.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr if you call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make your donation over the phone just ask for the CDs about relationships.\u00a0 We\u2019ll know what you are talking about.\u00a0 We\u2019ll be happy to send those to you.\u00a0 Thanks again for your support of this ministry.\u00a0 We do appreciate your financial partnership with us.\u00a0 We really do appreciate you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow tomorrow we\u2018re going to hear the conclusion of our classic interview with Elisabeth Elliot.\u00a0 I hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We\u2019ll see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts for you. 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Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here was Elisabeth with her little baby girl and a husband who had just been killed in a foreign land.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And she went back to the tribe that had murdered her husband.\u00a0 She ended up with a spiritual breakthrough as she modeled what forgiveness and redemption looks like.\u00a0 You mentioned that she was and is a spiritual hero.\u00a0 She\u2019s also spunky and I think that\u2019s part of why we like this broadcast.\u00a0 She has a rhy smile and a twinkle in her eyes that is infectous.\u00a0 I think our listeners are really going to enjoy hearing her talk about quest for love.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 The subject we engaged her on is one that she has written about.\u00a0 Dating, relationships, marriage and what the Bible has to say about that.\u00a0 She has some background it that.\u00a0\u00a0 She met her husband Jim while they were both students at Wheaton College.\u00a0 They went their separate ways and ultimately God brought them together.\u00a0 They were married for a short time and then he was martyred.\u00a0 She then after a period of years met the man who became her second husband, Addison Leach, and he contracted cancer.\u00a0 They were married for four years and I remember when we had interviewed her she had married her third husband, Lars Gren, and she told us she had been single more years of her life than she had been married.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 She understood as a result that challenges of relationships and she had written very practically to singles about how to and how not to pursue relationships.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, and she really writes to singles about what I would consider a new standard of a dating 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to be some rules that made sense.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy purpose in writing <em>Quest for Love<\/em> was to help young people to realize that there are biblical principles which have been ignored.\u00a0 They\u2019re just unknown to the average young person, even the average young Christian today.\u00a0 And I\u2019ve compiled stories, some from old biographies of another century, some from contemporary ones.\u00a0 I\u2019ve received wonderful stories from some young people who have amazing courtship stories to tell of how God brought them together in most unexpected ways, without going through all the agonies of smelling every rose in the world and then coming back and finding it\u2019s the rose in your own backyard that God has picked out for you.\u00a0 As I was reading through these stories \u2013 and I also should mention that the book includes some wild and crazy stories\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It really does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026that I have received from readers of <em>Passion and Purity<\/em>, who say, in effect, \u201cIf only I\u2019d had this book five years sooner or two years sooner\u201d or \u201cWhy didn\u2019t my parents tell me this, why didn\u2019t my teachers, why didn\u2019t the pastor?\u201d\u00a0 You know, these older people that are supposed to have given them guidance apparently hadn\u2019t done that.\u00a0 I put those stories in, the wild and crazy ones, with the hope that my readers have sufficient discernment to see which are the ones which are exemplary and which are the ones to be deplored.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo the contrast between these various methods ought to get a certain message across.\u00a0 But, you know, it wasn\u2019t until I had almost finished writing the book, Dennis, that it dawned on me that in virtually every single case where the courtship was done right, barring all these wild and crazy ones, there was a third party involved.\u00a0 And right away people get all twitchy if you mention anything that sounds like matchmaking.\u00a0 You know, \u201cI don\u2019t want anybody telling me who I\u2019m going to marry.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to find my own husband or wife.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod\u2019s purpose from the very beginning, I believe, is that older people, wise people, somebody else should have a part in bringing two people together.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t have to be an older person, necessarily.\u00a0 I\u2019m sure that some of our listeners are familiar with the story of Abraham sending out his servant to find a wife for Isaac.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have any idea that the servant was older but we know the specific things that he did.\u00a0 He went in obedience, of course, to his master Abraham.\u00a0 He went with a specific purpose in mind and he went to the logical place where women could be observed with propriety, which was the town well.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe stood there and he did two things that I don\u2019t think very many young men today have ever thought of doing.\u00a0 One was he watched quietly and he prayed silently.\u00a0 It\u2019s observation of character that young men need to learn before any kind of a conversation takes place, let alone a date.\u00a0 And I, myself, know the value of that because I had observed Jim Elliot on the college campus for months before he and I ever had a personal conversation.\u00a0 And when we had the personal conversation, it wasn\u2019t on any level of intimacy whatsoever.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were talking about scripture passages.\u00a0 We were talking about Amy Carmichael\u2019s writing and it blew my mind to find a man who happened to be a champion wrestler \u2013 I mean, he was a real he-man \u2013 who was a fan of Amy Carmichael to the point where he had memorized some of her poetry.\u00a0 We found that God had been 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etcetera, etcetera.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the word relationship is a pitfall already because according to scripture there are only three possible relationships between one man and one woman and it never falls into those three categories when I press these girls as to what this relationship is.\u00a0 And those relationships are brother and sister, which would apply to all Christian men and all Christian women.\u00a0 You two men, Bob and Dennis, are my brothers in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 So we \u2013 and I am your sister.\u00a0 But you would never dream of saying \u201cI\u2019m in a relationship with Elisabeth Elliot.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 If you did, I mean, the whole world would be buzzing.\u00a0 But the only other two are betrothal and marriage.\u00a0 So when they start talking about being in a relationship, they\u2019re already in the soup.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, now, Elizabeth, hold it right there.\u00a0 There\u2019s a single woman going, she\u2019s going, \u201cHey, wait a second.\u00a0 How do I establish a relationship that moves to marriage if I don\u2019t have a relationship?\u201d\u00a0 I mean, how do you get there from here, Elisabeth?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m going to give an answer that young people are going to say, \u201cWhat?!\u00a0 I mean, really, is that the only thing I\u2019m supposed to do?\u201d\u00a0 My answer is, \u201cWait on the Lord.\u00a0 Trust God.\u00a0 The shepherd is much more interested in getting the sheep where the sheep belong, than the sheep are in getting there.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you think that the Lord of the universe knows how to bring you to the right man or the right man to you at the right time?\u00a0 Do you think He knows how?\u00a0 You have got to learn to trust and obey.\u00a0 Everything I have to say in all of my books comes down to those two simple words: trust and obey.\u00a0 And God\u2019s been doing it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe thing I always want to say to young people who say, \u201cWell, how in the world am I ever going to find somebody to marry if I don\u2019t date?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cHow in the world do you think most of the marriages throughout most of human history have occurred?\u00a0 There was no such thing as dating.\u00a0 It\u2019s a very recent phenomenon.\u00a0 Just because it happens to be what is done in our culture doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s the only way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 I want a little personal coaching here.\u00a0 I\u2019m the father of a 15-year old daughter.\u00a0 What should I be doing \u2013 what should Mary Ann and I be doing with our daughter if we wanted to move her in the direction of a biblical approach to finding a mate?\u00a0 And then what\u2019s our responsibility in that process?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, of course, you\u2019re praying and that is by far the most important thing, that God will preserve that woman, that dear girl and her virginity.\u00a0 It\u2019s a gift you can only give away once.\u00a0 Do you want to give it to the right person or the wrong person?\u00a0 And bringing young people together in your home, and I think that\u2019s one of the most important things.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI should write another whole book, I guess, about the responsibility that we older people have to make young people available to each other.\u00a0 My father met my mother at dinner at the home of an old lady.\u00a0 She was a very wealthy lady who used to invite crowds of young people to her house for the very purpose of making it possible for them to meet each other in a safe environment.\u00a0 So my father took a shine to my mother at that dinner and then asked if he could visit her in her home.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s extremely important, as I said, that there should be a third party, whether its parents or godly older people in the church, whoever.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I\u2019m listening here and I\u2019m thinking that would make an incredible ministry of an older couple having singles after church or, for that matter, before church into their home to provide an opportunity for fellowship, recreation, interaction, Bible study, prayer.\u00a0 And perhaps would be an answer to the sweatshops and the bar scene that lures them away from the spiritual content of the scriptures.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It sounds to me like your dad was able to meet your mom because of that very situation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\u00a0 And I want to get a message across very loud and clear to the older people.\u00a0 Of course, Titus 2 says that the older men are to be teaching the younger men, and the older women are to be teaching the younger women.\u00a0 I don\u2019t find that happening in very many churches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 The older men and women are tooling around in fancy mobile homes, they\u2019re going to Arizona to play golf.\u00a0 They\u2019re not available anymore.\u00a0 And they would say to me, \u201cThe young people do not want our advice.\u201d\u00a0 And the young people say to me, \u201cThe older people that you\u2019re describing are not available.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I have asked for a show of hands a number of times when I\u2019ve been speaking to a large audience, \u201cMay I see the hands of you older people who would be willing to be available?\u201d\u00a0 And they\u2019re always quite a few hands that go up.\u00a0 Then I say, \u201cMay I see the hands of the young people who are willing to listen to advice?\u201d\u00a0 Lots of hands go up.\u00a0 So it\u2019s very important that young people be willing to run by an older person their interest in a person of the opposite sex, to say to them, \u201cDoes this seem like a sensible match to you?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019re much more likely to have a successful marriage if there has been a third party in there praying for them, advising them.\u00a0 And again, I have to go back to my own experience.\u00a0 Not only did I have godly parents who were praying for me and protecting me, but I had four or five spiritual mothers who were available in places where my mother was not available.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor example, after college I went to Prairie Bible Institute in Alberta, Canada.\u00a0 The wife of one of the staff members there, a sweet old Scottish lady whom I called Mom Cunningham, my Canadian mom, listened to my heartbreaks over Jim Elliot.\u00a0 She was just there.\u00a0 She said, \u201cOh, Betty, dear.\u00a0 If you ever want a cup of Scottish tea and a scone, just pop down to my little apartment and we\u2019ll just have a little talk.\u201d\u00a0 And I would pop down to her little apartment on a wintry bitter day and she would put the kettle on and she would get out the Scottish scones.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would talk about Jim Elliot practically all the time, whereupon she would get out her Bible, she\u2019d read the Bible, she\u2019d pray for me and she prayed from then on until Jim and I got married.\u00a0 I think she was one of God\u2019s instruments in bringing us together.\u00a0 She had never met Jim.\u00a0 She was thousands of miles away from him.\u00a0 But I listened to her and I poured out my heart to her.\u00a0 Where are these white-haired people that ought to be available?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And so we need to call upon the older generation to step into the lives of the young generation and pull them toward maturity.\u00a0 We need to challenge them to holiness, godliness, to responsibility, to moral purity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But as we\u2019ve asked these questions, Elisabeth, it seems to me the shortage isn\u2019t of the young people who want to learn.\u00a0 It\u2019s of the older people who are afraid they won\u2019t know what to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 They are fearful that they won\u2019t have the answers to the younger generation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth: <\/strong>\u00a0Mom Cunningham was a very simple, lovely, sweet, simple person.\u00a0 She and her husband had lived on Great Slave Lake way up in Northwest Territory and they were the only white people.\u00a0 She was the only white woman on that whole lake.\u00a0 They were all Indians.\u00a0 She was a godly woman.\u00a0 And I don\u2019t remember asking her a whole lot of hard questions about, you know, what do I say to Jim or how do I get him interested in me.\u00a0 I\u2019m sure I didn\u2019t ask questions like that.\u00a0 She opened the Bible.\u00a0 The person who says, \u201cOh, well, I wouldn\u2019t know what to say to them,\u201d tell them you\u2019ll pray.\u00a0 And certainly, anybody with a little distance from a couple who think they\u2019re made for each other will have some opinion as to whether this looks like a good match.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Should a parent be involved in arranging a marriage for a son or a daughter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I really think so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now how do I do that as a dad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 If a young man is interested in your daughter and wants to take her out, say on a date, then he has to run that by you.\u00a0 He has to come to you first.\u00a0 And you meet the man, you talk to him, you get some idea of what sort of a person this is and how he\u2019s going to treat your daughter.\u00a0 So that\u2019s essential.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think it\u2019s very important, if possible, that both parents \u2013 the parents of the boy and the girl \u2013 have some communication.\u00a0 And this, of course, ideally is two sets of Christian parents that we\u2019re talking about.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t always work that way, but God knows how to take care of that, too.\u00a0 We need to learn to trust the Lord to give us wisdom when the time comes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you wouldn\u2019t leave a young person to make that decision of who they marry on their own, as a parent now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely not.\u00a0 And I hadn\u2019t realized until I began studying my own family \u2013 my four brothers, my sister and me \u2013 just how much influence our parents had on all of us.\u00a0 And there\u2019s only one member out of the six of us who actually went against our parents\u2019 wishes and that one person is divorced.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re confirming something that I\u2019ve been sensing and Bob\u2019s going to probably look at me and smile now because he knows that I have four daughters and two sons and none of them are married yet.\u00a0 But as Barbara and I have prayed and talked and interacted with our children as they become young adults, I personally have felt, Elisabeth, that most parents become more and more distant from their children as they begin to move into the age of becoming married and move into the process of selecting a spouse.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I look at it, certainly not controlling them, certainly not being God in their lives because they have to have their own walk with God and dependence upon him, but I see them as still needing our wisdom, our counsel, our advice and our discernment as they move into these dating relationships.\u00a0 And I think it\u2019s very important that the parents do talk to the parents of the young man who is dating your daughter, or of the young lady who is dating your son, especially if it becomes serious.\u00a0 I sense a need for those families to be connected just so the godly parents can discern what God is doing here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t agree more, Dennis.\u00a0 I really don\u2019t want to hear about dating, you know, unless it\u2019s groups.\u00a0 And that was the case back in my parents\u2019 day.\u00a0 No self-respecting man or woman would go out alone with a member of the opposite sex.\u00a0 If my father wanted to take my mother out of that living room to a concert, for example, or to a meal, he had to get another couple or a chaperone.\u00a0 But they would never go out alone.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo you fathers of girls have to take your part, your responsibility in seeing to it that nice Christian young men come to your home.\u00a0 And your daughters are allowed to go to Christian homes where there are men, and you get to know them.\u00a0 When you invite the man to your home, you know, go on a family picnic and see how he treats your wife, for example.\u00a0 It\u2019s very important to observe the way a man treats older women and his own peers.\u00a0 There are many ways in which the character is revealed and we need to emphasize character over looks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure if it\u2019s the result of the epidemic of insecure men who have become husbands and fathers today, or a lack of faith and true godliness in the Christian community.\u00a0 But these thoughts we\u2019re talking about here, I don\u2019t sense them being reinforced by the Christian community with a legion of voices.\u00a0 I\u2019ve talked about some of these ideas on this broadcast and before audiences and I kind of feel like at times, Elisabeth, as though I\u2019m a lone voice and you\u2019re sensing from the young people, \u201cYes, we want our parents.\u00a0 Yes, we are desirous of their involvement in our lives.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But the parents are afraid.\u00a0 It seems Christian leaders don\u2019t want to step into this.\u00a0 It looks heavy-handed.\u00a0 And yet, as you point out in your book how much worse does it need to get, the divorce rate \u2013 how much more does the church need to be crippled by broken marriages and families before we realize the present system isn\u2019t working.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we\u2019d better, as dads and as moms, re-think the whole dating thing, re-think the whole courtship thing, re-think the whole opposite sex touching one another, and step into it with a prayerful heart, asking God to give us wisdom.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have to have all the answers before we step in there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we\u2019ve been listening back to an interview that was recorded back in 1996 with Elisabeth Elliot.\u00a0 I\u2019m listening to it thinking so what has changed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Not much right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think the same message that was relevant back then may be 2X more relevant today.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And your convictions about what need to happen haven\u2019t changed either.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, my goodness.\u00a0 We are strident here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> wanting to encourage and strengthen moms and dads to build this kind of thinking into the lives of their young people.\u00a0 Because if you don\u2019t the culture is going to get them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m not a doomsdayer I just know that with all the electronic media that is coming at our kids there are more ways today for our kids to be seduced by the culture than ever before.\u00a0\u00a0 So moms and dads you have to have the right kinds of standards and the right kind of relationship and be calling your children to those standards.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes, and we have tried here at FamilyLife to provide moms and dads with a variety of resources to help you do that at different stages in your children\u2019s lives.\u00a0 For example we have The Passport to Purity resource for when your kids are preteens so that you can start to have the conversation with them about relationships and about the opposite sex and what that is going to look like for them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour son, Samuel, and your daughter, Rebecca, wrote together with you and Barbara called <em>So You\u2019re About to Be a Teenager<\/em>.\u00a0 That\u2019s for young teens to be able to read on their own.\u00a0 Then there are books like the one we have talked about today that Elisabeth Elliot <em>Passion and Purity<\/em> and the follow up to it <em>Quest for Love<\/em>.\u00a0 Those are timeless resources not just to hand off to your teenager and say here read this but to read through together with your teen.\u00a0 To use it as an opportunity as a conversation starter.\u00a0 Read a chapter each week on your own and then the two of you go out to Starbucks or go out somewhere that your teen likes and talk about what\u2019s in the chapter.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have copies of all of these resources in the FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 Go to our web site FamilyLife Today.com to find out more about these resources.\u00a0 You can order from us if you\u2019d like or call 1-800-FL-TODAY.\u00a0 That\u2019s 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in Family, \u201cL\u201d as in Life and then the word TODAY and someone on our team will let you know how you can get any of the resources sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to add a note here to remind you that <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is listener supported and those of you who listen regularly I know that some of you have either gone online or called us at 1-800-FL-TODAY and made a donation to help support the ministry and help keep this program on the air on this station and other stations all across the country.\u00a0 We appreciate your ongoing support of this ministry.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you are a new listener and maybe you\u2019ve been listening for a while and you\u2019ve never contacted us to make a contribution we want to invite you to get in touch with us and let us know how God is using the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in your life.\u00a0 If you are able to help 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It\u2019s a two CD set of our conversation with Pastor Chip Ingram on the subject we\u2019ve been talking about today.\u00a0 He had just written a book called <em>Love, Sex, and Lasting Relationships<\/em> and he had some very helpful things to say for singles about how you evaluate relationships.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are happy to send you these two CDs to you as our way of saying thank you for your financial support of this ministry.\u00a0 When you make a donation of any amount this month for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> if you make your donation online at FamilyLifeToday.com you\u2019ll want to type the word \u201clove\u201d in the key code box on the online donation form so we\u2019ll know to send you the CDs.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr if you call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make your donation over the phone just ask for the CDs about relationships.\u00a0 We\u2019ll know what you are talking about.\u00a0 We\u2019ll be happy to send those to you.\u00a0 Thanks again for your support of this ministry.\u00a0 We do appreciate your financial partnership with us.\u00a0 We really do appreciate you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow tomorrow we\u2018re going to hear the conclusion of our classic interview with Elisabeth Elliot.\u00a0 I hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We\u2019ll see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts for you. 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