{"id":301722,"date":"2008-12-02T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2008-12-02T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/getting-back-to-the-basics-of-christmas\/"},"modified":"2008-12-02T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2008-12-02T17:00:00","slug":"getting-back-to-the-basics-of-christmas","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-back-to-the-basics-of-christmas\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting Back to the Basics of Christmas"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today Barbara Rainey opens the Scriptures to John 3:16 and tells what this particular passage holds for us this Christmas season.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2008-12-02.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"12.46M","filesize_raw":"13060464","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2816],"tags":[4642,2639],"podcast_series":[7618],"cwp_profile":[3052],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-301722","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-christmas","tag-christmas","tag-sharing-your-faith","podcast_series-when-christmas-came","cwp_profile-barbara-rainey","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/301722\/getting-back-to-the-basics-of-christmas","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/301722\/getting-back-to-the-basics-of-christmas","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ehOgh8PzC2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-back-to-the-basics-of-christmas\/\">Getting Back to the Basics of Christmas<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-back-to-the-basics-of-christmas\/embed\/#?secret=ehOgh8PzC2\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Getting Back to the Basics of Christmas&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"ehOgh8PzC2\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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mind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I thought about a verse in Hebrews 6, and it talks about how Jesus is the anchor for our soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I thought, you know, in hard times, in difficult times, what we need is something that keeps us secure; something that keeps us from feeling like we're going to be blown to bits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd an anchor does that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we have Christ, He is our anchor, and He will keep us from being shaken and moved, and He will keep us secure, no matter what life brings.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is FamilyLife Today for Tuesday, December 2nd.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 There is a lot more to think about as you meditate on John 3:16.\u00a0 Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition.\u00a0 I don't know if the two of you know this, but I had an opportunity not long ago to spend some time with our mutual friend, Michael Easley, who is a pastor of a local church, and who has a daily radio program called \"In Context,\" and I was asking him about how he had come to faith in Christ.\u00a0 Did you ever hear his testimony?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don't think I have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don't recall hearing it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He was a teenage boy, a young teenage boy.\u00a0 He walked into a Sunday school classroom, and the Sunday school teacher had just written on the board, \"John 3:16.\"\u00a0 That's all that was written \u2013 didn't write out the verse, just wrote the address on the board.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he spent that Sunday school hour talking about that verse with those kids.\u00a0 Now, for most of the kids who were in that class, that was just another Sunday school hour that you checked off, but for Michael, that verse brought the Gospel alive to him that morning, and he said, \"I walked out of Sunday school class different than when I had walked in.\u00a0 I understood God's love.\u00a0 I understood my sin.\u00a0 I understood my need.\u00a0 I understood that Christ had come\" \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It's all there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2026\"to deliver me.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It's right there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And he was converted around John 3:16, and the reason I mention that is because you have written and illustrated and painted a brand-new book \u2013 and, by the way, welcome back to FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> By popular demand, by the way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That's right, Dennis has been demanding it for weeks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0 No, our listeners have been demanding, that's who wants her here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The book is called \"When Christmas Came,\" and it takes that verse, John 3:16, and puts it in a Christmas context, which is where it belongs, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yeah, it really does tell the story of Christmas, but we don't typically think of it as a Christmas verse.\u00a0 So it was really fun to look at it from a different perspective, to look at how it tells the story of God sending Jesus at Christmas, even though it doesn't say at Christmas, we know that's when He came, and it talks about God giving, and His great love, and so it really fits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, just in case there might be a listener who maybe thinks they know John 3:16 \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They've seen the address at the football games when the guys hold up the sign.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2026 but really may not remember it \u2013 \"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo your point, Bob, it's \u2013 and to Barbara's as well \u2013 it is taking a verse that we all know, and it's applying it to probably the most celebrated season or holiday on our calendars.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, this book is your meditation on John 3:16, both in prose, poems and also in just devotional thoughts, reflections on your own childhood, growing up at Christmastime.\u00a0 And then there are eight different watercolor illustrations that are worked throughout the book.\u00a0 You start with a heart, \"For God so loved the world,\" right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And then there's a globe for the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> For the world, mm-hm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And then there's a gift because God gave \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That represents God as the Giver.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And \"His only begotten Son\" \u2013 what did you draw for that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, you know, that was an interesting one to do because, typically, you would think a manger, and that's typically associated with Jesus.\u00a0 But I wanted to do something a little unique, and I decided to do baby feet, and so the illustration that represents the Baby Jesus is baby feet, which is typical of what new parents do \u2013 they inspect fingers and toes, and so I painted some baby feet, and they're laying on some straw, so it does look a little bit like a manger.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There is some symbolism to those baby feet that goes beyond this illustration, though, Bob, that we'll explain before the broadcast is over today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> All right.\u00a0 You go from \"Who gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Whoever believes \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Is that the doorway here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That's the door, and it represents the fact that each of us has to make a choice about Jesus.\u00a0 God gave the gift, He gave Him freely to anyone who wants to receive, but as in any gift \u2013 at Christmas, if I gave you a gift at Christmas, you would have to reach your hands out and take it from me.\u00a0 Even if I threw it at you, if you didn't grab it, it would not be yours, and so the door represents the fact that each of us individually has to make a choice as to what we're going to do with the Gift that God gave.\u00a0 Will we receive it or not?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So \u2013 \"Whosoever believes in Him\" \u2013 that's the door \u2013 \"should not perish\" \u2013 now there you had to stop and think, \"How am I going to represent that in a book about Christmas and God's goodness\" \u2013 to represent perishing could be very dark.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, it was really one of the more challenging elements to figure out how to represent \"and we will not perish,\" but I thought about a verse in Hebrews that is also one of my favorite verses, and there is a phrase, and it's in Hebrews 6, and it talks about how Jesus is the anchor for our soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I thought, you know, in hard times, in difficult times, what we need is something that keeps us secure; something that keeps us from feeling like we're going to be blown to bits, and an anchor does that.\u00a0 An anchor does that for ships, and there are many references biblically to ships and to storms, and so I thought even though we don't use the sea as our primary transportation as they did in biblical times, nonetheless we all know what an anchor does.\u00a0 Everyone knows that an anchor is what keeps a ship stable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so I drew an illustration of an anchor to represent that if we have Christ, He is our anchor, and He will keep us from being shaken and moved, and he will keep us secure no matter what life brings.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, in fact, let me read the passage, because it's really a pretty good passage \u2013 Hebrews, chapter 6, verses 17 \u2013 well, through the end of the chapter \u2013 \"Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise, the immutability of His counsel, confirmed it by an oath; that by two immutable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might have strong consolation who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is the passage she was talking about \u2013 \"This hope we have as an anchor of the soul both sure and steadfast and which enters the presence behind the veil where the forerunner has entered for us \u2013 even Jesus having become the high priest forever according to the order of Melchesidic, and it's talking there about Jesus being the anchor of our soul.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So \"God so loved the world,\" we've got the heart and the globe, \"that he gave\" \u2013 we have a gift \u2013 \"His only Son,\" we've got the little baby with the feet, \"that whosoever believes\" \u2013 that's the door open with the light coming through \u2013 \"should not perish\" \u2013 the soul is anchored, \"But should have everlasting life\" \u2013 now how are you going to picture everlasting life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That was a hard one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That was really the hardest because no one has seen heaven, none of us have been there, so we don't know what it looks like.\u00a0 But we have some hints.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I really like what she chose here.\u00a0 This was cool.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yeah, we have some hints of what it will be like, and we have some hints of what will happen when we go there, and one of the things that will happen when we go there is there will be the sound of a trumpet.\u00a0 So I painted a trumpet, because that's very clear in Scripture that at the sound of the trumpet, we will go to be with Jesus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo there's a trumpet, but I also decided to paint an image of a lion, because Jesus is the lion of Judah, and I've been re-reading recently all of the Narnia books.\u00a0 After we went to see Prince Caspian in May, I thought, you know, it's been years since I've read those, since we don't have kids at home anymore.\u00a0 So I started at the beginning and kept reading through them, and just the image of Aslan \u2013 it just is such a compelling image of who Christ is \u2013 the strength and the power of who He is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo \"everlasting life\" actually has two images \u2013 it has the image of the lion and the image of the trumpet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How has your meditating on this verse over a period of months borne fruit in your own thinking or in your own life?\u00a0 Is there anything that, as you thought about it, you thought, \"You know, I don't know that I've ever thought about in that way before.\"\u00a0 Anything that rang true to you in a fresh way?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yeah, I think one of the things that was interesting, because as most projects go, this one evolved.\u00a0 It changed, it grew, it had lots of different iterations, but one of the things that I realized as I wrote some of the prose pieces that go with the meditation pieces, is that it was really interesting to reflect back on my live as a child, because I loved Christmas intensely as a child, and most children do.\u00a0 So I wasn't unusual on that, but as I thought back to what it was like as a kid, I had this longing every year at Christmas for it to last.\u00a0 I didn't want it to be over, I didn't like it when it was over, it was depressing to put all the decorations away, it just felt boring when it was over.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I realized, going through the process of writing this that God put that there \u2013 He wanted me to want Christmas to last forever.\u00a0 He wants Christmas to last forever for all of us.\u00a0 That's why He sent Jesus, because Christmas can last forever.\u00a0 But I didn't understand that as a child, I didn't understand that until I heard the Gospel clearly presented to me in college, when I heard for the first time that I had a choice about the gift of Jesus, and, again, that wasn't tied into the Christmas message, either, but it was really interesting to see, as I reflected on this verse, how \u2013 what I'd always felt all of my life about Christmas lasting was really put there by God.\u00a0 He was calling me, and I think that's true for all of us.\u00a0 He calls all of us every year at Christmas, year after year after year, He is calling people to Himself through the celebration of the holiday.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, and you really did a good job of writing in this, I think, to take us into the warm experience of Christmas.\u00a0 In fact, Bob, I want you to read the piece that Barbara wrote about the world and just how Christmas was all about God's Son visiting the world, because this really, I think, captures what we're talking about here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, you start off by quoting from \"The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe,\" and this is the faun, Mr. Tumnus, speaking to Lucy, and he says, \"Why, it is she that has got all Narnia under her thumb\" \u2013 talking about the White Witch.\u00a0 \"It is she that makes it always winter, always winter and never Christmas.\u00a0 Think of that.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen you go on to say, \"I wholeheartedly agree with Lucy's response, which is 'How awful.'\u00a0 I remember how weary I would get when winter in the Chicago area never seemed to end, sometimes running into March or even April.\u00a0 It stayed cold and gray and lifeless so long, still, I can't imagine living in uninterrupted winter and no Christmas?\u00a0 Truly dreadful.\u00a0 Today we mark time by the birth of Christ.\u00a0 Our calendars are ordered against that pivotal event in history.\u00a0 For centuries the world truly was locked in a state of perpetual winter.\u00a0 There was no Christmas, just as C.S. Lewis's imagery in the land of Narnia was frozen under an evil enchantment with no hope of coming springtime thaw, so our world was plagued by a chilling curse that petrified the hearts of humanity.\u00a0 That long winter produced lives of futility, void of light, life and color without the expectation of Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis was the condition of the world into which Christ was born, and such is the state of each human being on our planet who has not received the Gift of Christmas.\u00a0 God never does anything by chance or without intentionality, He never makes mistakes, it was not a random event, it was, in fact, quite on purpose that God determined the exact season, the exact moment, the exact location for the introduction of His Son to our cold, bleak world.\u00a0 Christmas came during the Winter Solstice, the darkest days of the year.\u00a0 At the dreariest hour, God broke through the darkness of our winter with the great and eternal light of His Son.\u00a0 God invites us in the darkest days to embrace light and warmth and hope to leave winter behind and to welcome Christmas into our world.\u00a0 Christmas is about the world because God's love never ends, and it is enough for us all.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, you know, that's what our focus ought to be a Christmastime, I mean, I really think what you've done, Barbara, with the book \"When Christmas Came,\" is you brought us back to what ought to be front and center in our hearts and minds at this time of year.\u00a0 And everything in the culture presses us away from meditation on Christ and God's Gift, and your book presses us back in that direction, and we need things like this to stay spiritually focused during a time of year when there is all kind of enticement to be focused on other things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I hope a lot of our listeners will get a copy of your book not only for themselves but we are hoping listeners will make this a great Christmas gift to give to family members, friends, loved ones.\u00a0 You can go to our website, FamilyLife.com, and on the site you'll see information about how you can order multiple quantities of the book at a discounted price so that you can give the book as a gift.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, again, we've already said it this week, but I just want to say again, this is a great way to put the Gospel in someone's hands at Christmastime who needs to hear about God's love for them.\u00a0 Again, there is more information on the website, FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 When you get to the home page, on the right side of the screen, you'll see a box that says \"Today's Broadcast.\"\u00a0 Click where it says \"Learn More,\" and that will take you to an area of the site where you can find out how you can get a copy or multiple copies of Barbara's book, \"When Christmas Came.\"\u00a0 It is only available from us here at FamilyLife this year.\u00a0 It's not available on Amazon, it's not available in local stores, at least for this year.\u00a0 The only place you can get it is here at FamilyLife.com or by calling us at 1-800-FLTODAY.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me also mention when you do get in touch with us, if you don't have our interactive Nativity Scene that we've created for families called \"What God Wants for Christmas,\" you might consider getting that resource as well.\u00a0 This is a great tool for parents to use with children to help them understand the meaning of Christmas and the Gospel message, and the kids love to open the little boxes and play with the figures that are in each box.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, more information about the Nativity Scene, \"What God Wants for Christmas,\" and Barbara's book, \"When Christmas Came\" on our website at FamilyLife.com or call us at 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I think it is safe to say that this has been an unusually challenging year for a lot of families, for a lot of businesses, a lot of corporations, and it's been an unusually challenging year for a lot of ministries like ours \u2013 because of what's going on with the economy in the last several months with gas prices, everything that's happened in our economy this year, there are a lot of ministries like ours that are facing the end of the year with some significant financial challenges, some significant hurdles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we know you're facing some of those things in your own family and wondering how Christmas may be different at your house this year than in past years.\u00a0 We had some friends of the ministry who stepped forward recently, and they wanted to encourage as many FamilyLife Today listeners as possible to consider making a year-end contribution to FamilyLife in spite of the challenges that we've all faced this year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo they have agreed that they would match any donation we receive from a listener on a dollar-for-dollar basis up to a total of $425,000.\u00a0 Now, we are hoping that we'll be able to take full advantage of that matching gift opportunity but, again, we know it's been a tough year for a lot of folks, and if we're going to be able to take full advantage of that matching gift, we need to hear from as many of you as possible with as generous a donation as possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we wanted to let you know about the opportunity that is there for us and ask you, if there is any way you can, to make a year-end contribution to FamilyLife Today so that we can continue on this station and on other stations into the year ahead and so that we can take full advantage of this matching gift opportunity that is available between now and the end of the year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can make a donation, you can do it online at FamilyLife.com, or you can call 1-800-FLTODAY, make your donation over the phone.\u00a0 Let me just say in advance, we do appreciate your partnership with us and your support of this ministry, and we particularly appreciate your donation here at this particular time.\u00a0 It means a lot to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis, before we wrap things up today, I know you wanted to share with our listeners a little of the story behind the dedication in Barbara's book, and what she's written and what she's drawn is powerful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There is also power in one last thing, Bob, and I mentioned earlier that the feet of Jesus, the baby's feet, had symbolism not only for Him in the manger but also other symbolism, and there is a surprise that we just wanted to offer here, because our daughter and her husband, Rebecca and Jake, this book was dedicated to someone very special to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I dedicated this book to Rebecca and Jacob's daughter, Molly, who was born in June of '08, this past June, and she lived seven days, and then died.\u00a0 And I was already working on this project when Molly was born, and we spent that week with her, had the privilege of being there for all seven days of her life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd one of the things that Jacob and Rebecca got to do, and we did as well, was get her handprints and her footprints \u2013 and most hospitals do that, anyway.\u00a0 They put a hand \u2013 put a footprint on some kind of certificate.\u00a0 And the day that they decided to make Molly's handprints and footprints, they got it on several different pieces of paper, and then the idea began to spread by Dennis, he started it.\u00a0 He said, \"Could you put her handprints and feetprints in my Bible?\"\u00a0 And the nurse said, \"Sure.\"\u00a0 And so everybody scrambled to get their Bibles, and so we all now have Molly's hand and feet prints in our Bible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut after all of that was over, and we were back home, and I was thinking, \"How can I illustrated the baby Jesus, I thought about Molly, and I thought about her footprints.\u00a0 And so I painted Molly's footprints, because we had them as baby Jesus's footprints.\u00a0 So the image of the baby Jesus's footprints are really Molly's footprints.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And on the first page of the book where there is a dedication, Molly's footprints are there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Footprints are there, mm-hm, because I decided to dedicate the book to Molly because the hope of Christmas is what it's all about.\u00a0 The hope of Christmas is that we will see her again, and we will.\u00a0 So that is the joy that God gave us when He gave us the gift of Jesus Christ.\u00a0 We can have hope, and that gives us joy in living today \u2013 being separated from her and still grieving the loss of this precious grandchild, but we have hope, and that's the message of Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, in fact, here is the dedication \u2013 \"This book is dedicated to Molly Ann Mutz, my namesake, my precious granddaughter who, because Christmas came, we will see again one day when all things will be made new \u2013 June 13-June 19, 2008.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, you know, for those who have been alive for I'd say more than four or five decades, they begin to understand that heaven looks better and better, and those who have lost children or lost a loved one also know that the reality of what the book is about, John 3:16, is really the hope of the world.\u00a0 Christmas is not about Christmas lights and gifts and candy canes.\u00a0 It's certainly fun to have those things, and we enjoy those things, but it is about celebrating, redemption, Who became 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Barbara Rainey opens the Scriptures to John 3:16 and tells what this particular passage holds for us this Christmas season.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2008-12-02.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Barbara Rainey was reflecting on John 3:16 \u2013 \"That God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.\"\u00a0 And as she meditated on the gift of Christ, another Scripture passage came to mind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I thought about a verse in Hebrews 6, and it talks about how Jesus is the anchor for our soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I thought, you know, in hard times, in difficult times, what we need is something that keeps us secure; something that keeps us from feeling like we're going to be blown to bits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd an anchor does that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we have Christ, He is our anchor, and He will keep us from being shaken and moved, and He will keep us secure, no matter what life brings.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is FamilyLife Today for Tuesday, December 2nd.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 There is a lot more to think about as you meditate on John 3:16.\u00a0 Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition.\u00a0 I don't know if the two of you know this, but I had an opportunity not long ago to spend some time with our mutual friend, Michael Easley, who is a pastor of a local church, and who has a daily radio program called \"In Context,\" and I was asking him about how he had come to faith in Christ.\u00a0 Did you ever hear his testimony?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don't think I have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don't recall hearing it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He was a teenage boy, a young teenage boy.\u00a0 He walked into a Sunday school classroom, and the Sunday school teacher had just written on the board, \"John 3:16.\"\u00a0 That's all that was written \u2013 didn't write out the verse, just wrote the address on the board.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he spent that Sunday school hour talking about that verse with those kids.\u00a0 Now, for most of the kids who were in that class, that was just another Sunday school hour that you checked off, but for Michael, that verse brought the Gospel alive to him that morning, and he said, \"I walked out of Sunday school class different than when I had walked in.\u00a0 I understood God's love.\u00a0 I understood my sin.\u00a0 I understood my need.\u00a0 I understood that Christ had come\" \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It's all there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2026\"to deliver me.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It's right there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And he was converted around John 3:16, and the reason I mention that is because you have written and illustrated and painted a brand-new book \u2013 and, by the way, welcome back to FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> By popular demand, by the way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That's right, Dennis has been demanding it for weeks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0 No, our listeners have been demanding, that's who wants her here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The book is called \"When Christmas Came,\" and it takes that verse, John 3:16, and puts it in a Christmas context, which is where it belongs, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yeah, it really does tell the story of Christmas, but we don't typically think of it as a Christmas verse.\u00a0 So it was really fun to look at it from a different perspective, to look at how it tells the story of God sending Jesus at Christmas, even though it doesn't say at Christmas, we know that's when He came, and it talks about God giving, and His great love, and so it really fits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, just in case there might be a listener who maybe thinks they know John 3:16 \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They've seen the address at the football games when the guys hold up the sign.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2026 but really may not remember it \u2013 \"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo your point, Bob, it's \u2013 and to Barbara's as well \u2013 it is taking a verse that we all know, and it's applying it to probably the most celebrated season or holiday on our calendars.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, this book is your meditation on John 3:16, both in prose, poems and also in just devotional thoughts, reflections on your own childhood, growing up at Christmastime.\u00a0 And then there are eight different watercolor illustrations that are worked throughout the book.\u00a0 You start with a heart, \"For God so loved the world,\" right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And then there's a globe for the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> For the world, mm-hm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And then there's a gift because God gave \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That represents God as the Giver.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And \"His only begotten Son\" \u2013 what did you draw for that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, you know, that was an interesting one to do because, typically, you would think a manger, and that's typically associated with Jesus.\u00a0 But I wanted to do something a little unique, and I decided to do baby feet, and so the illustration that represents the Baby Jesus is baby feet, which is typical of what new parents do \u2013 they inspect fingers and toes, and so I painted some baby feet, and they're laying on some straw, so it does look a little bit like a manger.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There is some symbolism to those baby feet that goes beyond this illustration, though, Bob, that we'll explain before the broadcast is over today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> All right.\u00a0 You go from \"Who gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Whoever believes \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Is that the doorway here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That's the door, and it represents the fact that each of us has to make a choice about Jesus.\u00a0 God gave the gift, He gave Him freely to anyone who wants to receive, but as in any gift \u2013 at Christmas, if I gave you a gift at Christmas, you would have to reach your hands out and take it from me.\u00a0 Even if I threw it at you, if you didn't grab it, it would not be yours, and so the door represents the fact that each of us individually has to make a choice as to what we're going to do with the Gift that God gave.\u00a0 Will we receive it or not?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So \u2013 \"Whosoever believes in Him\" \u2013 that's the door \u2013 \"should not perish\" \u2013 now there you had to stop and think, \"How am I going to represent that in a book about Christmas and God's goodness\" \u2013 to represent perishing could be very dark.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, it was really one of the more challenging elements to figure out how to represent \"and we will not perish,\" but I thought about a verse in Hebrews that is also one of my favorite verses, and there is a phrase, and it's in Hebrews 6, and it talks about how Jesus is the anchor for our soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I thought, you know, in hard times, in difficult times, what we need is something that keeps us secure; something that keeps us from feeling like we're going to be blown to bits, and an anchor does that.\u00a0 An anchor does that for ships, and there are many references biblically to ships and to storms, and so I thought even though we don't use the sea as our primary transportation as they did in biblical times, nonetheless we all know what an anchor does.\u00a0 Everyone knows that an anchor is what keeps a ship stable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so I drew an illustration of an anchor to represent that if we have Christ, He is our anchor, and He will keep us from being shaken and moved, and he will keep us secure no matter what life brings.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, in fact, let me read the passage, because it's really a pretty good passage \u2013 Hebrews, chapter 6, verses 17 \u2013 well, through the end of the chapter \u2013 \"Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise, the immutability of His counsel, confirmed it by an oath; that by two immutable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might have strong consolation who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is the passage she was talking about \u2013 \"This hope we have as an anchor of the soul both sure and steadfast and which enters the presence behind the veil where the forerunner has entered for us \u2013 even Jesus having become the high priest forever according to the order of Melchesidic, and it's talking there about Jesus being the anchor of our soul.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So \"God so loved the world,\" we've got the heart and the globe, \"that he gave\" \u2013 we have a gift \u2013 \"His only Son,\" we've got the little baby with the feet, \"that whosoever believes\" \u2013 that's the door open with the light coming through \u2013 \"should not perish\" \u2013 the soul is anchored, \"But should have everlasting life\" \u2013 now how are you going to picture everlasting life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That was a hard one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That was really the hardest because no one has seen heaven, none of us have been there, so we don't know what it looks like.\u00a0 But we have some hints.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I really like what she chose here.\u00a0 This was cool.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yeah, we have some hints of what it will be like, and we have some hints of what will happen when we go there, and one of the things that will happen when we go there is there will be the sound of a trumpet.\u00a0 So I painted a trumpet, because that's very clear in Scripture that at the sound of the trumpet, we will go to be with Jesus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo there's a trumpet, but I also decided to paint an image of a lion, because Jesus is the lion of Judah, and I've been re-reading recently all of the Narnia books.\u00a0 After we went to see Prince Caspian in May, I thought, you know, it's been years since I've read those, since we don't have kids at home anymore.\u00a0 So I started at the beginning and kept reading through them, and just the image of Aslan \u2013 it just is such a compelling image of who Christ is \u2013 the strength and the power of who He is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo \"everlasting life\" actually has two images \u2013 it has the image of the lion and the image of the trumpet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How has your meditating on this verse over a period of months borne fruit in your own thinking or in your own life?\u00a0 Is there anything that, as you thought about it, you thought, \"You know, I don't know that I've ever thought about in that way before.\"\u00a0 Anything that rang true to you in a fresh way?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yeah, I think one of the things that was interesting, because as most projects go, this one evolved.\u00a0 It changed, it grew, it had lots of different iterations, but one of the things that I realized as I wrote some of the prose pieces that go with the meditation pieces, is that it was really interesting to reflect back on my live as a child, because I loved Christmas intensely as a child, and most children do.\u00a0 So I wasn't unusual on that, but as I thought back to what it was like as a kid, I had this longing every year at Christmas for it to last.\u00a0 I didn't want it to be over, I didn't like it when it was over, it was depressing to put all the decorations away, it just felt boring when it was over.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I realized, going through the process of writing this that God put that there \u2013 He wanted me to want Christmas to last forever.\u00a0 He wants Christmas to last forever for all of us.\u00a0 That's why He sent Jesus, because Christmas can last forever.\u00a0 But I didn't understand that as a child, I didn't understand that until I heard the Gospel clearly presented to me in college, when I heard for the first time that I had a choice about the gift of Jesus, and, again, that wasn't tied into the Christmas message, either, but it was really interesting to see, as I reflected on this verse, how \u2013 what I'd always felt all of my life about Christmas lasting was really put there by God.\u00a0 He was calling me, and I think that's true for all of us.\u00a0 He calls all of us every year at Christmas, year after year after year, He is calling people to Himself through the celebration of the holiday.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, and you really did a good job of writing in this, I think, to take us into the warm experience of Christmas.\u00a0 In fact, Bob, I want you to read the piece that Barbara wrote about the world and just how Christmas was all about God's Son visiting the world, because this really, I think, captures what we're talking about here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, you start off by quoting from \"The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe,\" and this is the faun, Mr. Tumnus, speaking to Lucy, and he says, \"Why, it is she that has got all Narnia under her thumb\" \u2013 talking about the White Witch.\u00a0 \"It is she that makes it always winter, always winter and never Christmas.\u00a0 Think of that.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen you go on to say, \"I wholeheartedly agree with Lucy's response, which is 'How awful.'\u00a0 I remember how weary I would get when winter in the Chicago area never seemed to end, sometimes running into March or even April.\u00a0 It stayed cold and gray and lifeless so long, still, I can't imagine living in uninterrupted winter and no Christmas?\u00a0 Truly dreadful.\u00a0 Today we mark time by the birth of Christ.\u00a0 Our calendars are ordered against that pivotal event in history.\u00a0 For centuries the world truly was locked in a state of perpetual winter.\u00a0 There was no Christmas, just as C.S. Lewis's imagery in the land of Narnia was frozen under an evil enchantment with no hope of coming springtime thaw, so our world was plagued by a chilling curse that petrified the hearts of humanity.\u00a0 That long winter produced lives of futility, void of light, life and color without the expectation of Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis was the condition of the world into which Christ was born, and such is the state of each human being on our planet who has not received the Gift of Christmas.\u00a0 God never does anything by chance or without intentionality, He never makes mistakes, it was not a random event, it was, in fact, quite on purpose that God determined the exact season, the exact moment, the exact location for the introduction of His Son to our cold, bleak world.\u00a0 Christmas came during the Winter Solstice, the darkest days of the year.\u00a0 At the dreariest hour, God broke through the darkness of our winter with the great and eternal light of His Son.\u00a0 God invites us in the darkest days to embrace light and warmth and hope to leave winter behind and to welcome Christmas into our world.\u00a0 Christmas is about the world because God's love never ends, and it is enough for us all.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[musical transition] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, you know, that's what our focus ought to be a Christmastime, I mean, I really think what you've done, Barbara, with the book \"When Christmas Came,\" is you brought us back to what ought to be front and center in our hearts and minds at this time of year.\u00a0 And everything in the culture presses us away from meditation on Christ and God's Gift, and your book presses us back in that direction, and we need things like this to stay spiritually focused during a time of year when there is all kind of enticement to be focused on other things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I hope a lot of our listeners will get a copy of your book not only for themselves but we are hoping listeners will make this a great Christmas gift to give to family members, friends, loved ones.\u00a0 You can go to our website, FamilyLife.com, and on the site you'll see information about how you can order multiple quantities of the book at a discounted price so that you can give the book as a gift.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, again, we've already said it this week, but I just want to say again, this is a great way to put the Gospel in someone's hands at Christmastime who needs to hear about God's love for them.\u00a0 Again, there is more information on the website, FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 When you get to the home page, on the right side of the screen, you'll see a box that says \"Today's Broadcast.\"\u00a0 Click where it says \"Learn More,\" and that will take you to an area of the site where you can find out how you can get a copy or multiple copies of Barbara's book, \"When Christmas Came.\"\u00a0 It is only available from us here at FamilyLife this year.\u00a0 It's not available on Amazon, it's not available in local stores, at least for this year.\u00a0 The only place you can get it is here at FamilyLife.com or by calling us at 1-800-FLTODAY.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me also mention when you do get in touch with us, if you don't have our interactive Nativity Scene that we've created for families called \"What God Wants for Christmas,\" you might consider getting that resource as well.\u00a0 This is a great tool for parents to use with children to help them understand the meaning of Christmas and the Gospel message, and the kids love to open the little boxes and play with the figures that are in each box.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, more information about the Nativity Scene, \"What God Wants for Christmas,\" and Barbara's book, \"When Christmas Came\" on our website at FamilyLife.com or call us at 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I think it is safe to say that this has been an unusually challenging year for a lot of families, for a lot of businesses, a lot of corporations, and it's been an unusually challenging year for a lot of ministries like ours \u2013 because of what's going on with the economy in the last several months with gas prices, everything that's happened in our economy this year, there are a lot of ministries like ours that are facing the end of the year with some significant financial challenges, some significant hurdles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we know you're facing some of those things in your own family and wondering how Christmas may be different at your house this year than in past years.\u00a0 We had some friends of the ministry who stepped forward recently, and they wanted to encourage as many FamilyLife Today listeners as possible to consider making a year-end contribution to FamilyLife in spite of the challenges that we've all faced this year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo they have agreed that they would match any donation we receive from a listener on a dollar-for-dollar basis up to a total of $425,000.\u00a0 Now, we are hoping that we'll be able to take full advantage of that matching gift opportunity but, again, we know it's been a tough year for a lot of folks, and if we're going to be able to take full advantage of that matching gift, we need to hear from as many of you as possible with as generous a donation as possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we wanted to let you know about the opportunity that is there for us and ask you, if there is any way you can, to make a year-end contribution to FamilyLife Today so that we can continue on this station and on other stations into the year ahead and so that we can take full advantage of this matching gift opportunity that is available between now and the end of the year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can make a donation, you can do it online at FamilyLife.com, or you can call 1-800-FLTODAY, make your donation over the phone.\u00a0 Let me just say in advance, we do appreciate your partnership with us and your support of this ministry, and we particularly appreciate your donation here at this particular time.\u00a0 It means a lot to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis, before we wrap things up today, I know you wanted to share with our listeners a little of the story behind the dedication in Barbara's book, and what she's written and what she's drawn is powerful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There is also power in one last thing, Bob, and I mentioned earlier that the feet of Jesus, the baby's feet, had symbolism not only for Him in the manger but also other symbolism, and there is a surprise that we just wanted to offer here, because our daughter and her husband, Rebecca and Jake, this book was dedicated to someone very special to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I dedicated this book to Rebecca and Jacob's daughter, Molly, who was born in June of '08, this past June, and she lived seven days, and then died.\u00a0 And I was already working on this project when Molly was born, and we spent that week with her, had the privilege of being there for all seven days of her life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd one of the things that Jacob and Rebecca got to do, and we did as well, was get her handprints and her footprints \u2013 and most hospitals do that, anyway.\u00a0 They put a hand \u2013 put a footprint on some kind of certificate.\u00a0 And the day that they decided to make Molly's handprints and footprints, they got it on several different pieces of paper, and then the idea began to spread by Dennis, he started it.\u00a0 He said, \"Could you put her handprints and feetprints in my Bible?\"\u00a0 And the nurse said, \"Sure.\"\u00a0 And so everybody scrambled to get their Bibles, and so we all now have Molly's hand and feet prints in our Bible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut after all of that was over, and we were back home, and I was thinking, \"How can I illustrated the baby Jesus, I thought about Molly, and I thought about her footprints.\u00a0 And so I painted Molly's footprints, because we had them as baby Jesus's footprints.\u00a0 So the image of the baby Jesus's footprints are really Molly's footprints.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And on the first page of the book where there is a dedication, Molly's footprints are there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Footprints are there, mm-hm, because I decided to dedicate the book to Molly because the hope of Christmas is what it's all about.\u00a0 The hope of Christmas is that we will see her again, and we will.\u00a0 So that is the joy that God gave us when He gave us the gift of Jesus Christ.\u00a0 We can have hope, and that gives us joy in living today \u2013 being separated from her and still grieving the loss of this precious grandchild, but we have hope, and that's the message of Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yeah, in fact, here is the dedication \u2013 \"This book is dedicated to Molly Ann Mutz, my namesake, my precious granddaughter who, because Christmas came, we will see again one day when all things will be made new \u2013 June 13-June 19, 2008.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, you know, for those who have been alive for I'd say more than four or five decades, they begin to understand that heaven looks better and better, and those who have lost children or lost a loved one also know that the reality of what the book is about, John 3:16, is really the hope of the world.\u00a0 Christmas is not about Christmas lights and gifts and candy canes.\u00a0 It's certainly fun to have those things, and we enjoy those things, but it is about celebrating, redemption, Who became 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