{"id":301459,"date":"2007-11-01T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-11-01T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/a-recipe-for-family-traditions\/"},"modified":"2007-11-01T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-11-01T15:00:00","slug":"a-recipe-for-family-traditions","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/a-recipe-for-family-traditions\/","title":{"rendered":"A Recipe for Family Traditions"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Raineys talk about some of the Rainey Thanksgiving traditions that set the day apart from all other holidays.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2007-11-01.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"11.47M","filesize_raw":"12027294","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2823],"tags":[4615,4976,4792],"podcast_series":[7340],"cwp_profile":[3051],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-301459","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-thanksgiving","tag-gratitude","tag-thankfulness","tag-thanksgiving","podcast_series-thanksgiving-a-time-to-remember","cwp_profile-dennis-and-barbara-rainey","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/301459\/a-recipe-for-family-traditions","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/301459\/a-recipe-for-family-traditions","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"m9W5SuQ9zP\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/a-recipe-for-family-traditions\/\">A Recipe for Family Traditions<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/a-recipe-for-family-traditions\/embed\/#?secret=m9W5SuQ9zP\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;A Recipe for Family Traditions&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"m9W5SuQ9zP\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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be Thankful For\"]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0This is FamilyLife Today for Thursday, November 1st.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We've got some family Thanksgiving traditions in store for you today that would lift even Bing Crosby's spirits.\u00a0 Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition.\u00a0 Three weeks from Thanksgiving, it will be Thanksgiving three weeks from today, and we're going to be talking to some parents today who \u2013 I think, if the Children's Protective Services knew that these parents forced their children to wait for Thanksgiving dinner until they had listened to the Thanksgiving story and had to write on cards and do all kinds of assignments, these parents could have been locked up.\u00a0 It's cruel \u2013 was the turkey sitting there just cooling while you \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No, no, it wasn't turkey.\u00a0 We actually did our Thanksgiving celebration before \u2013 a brunch \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 oh, around brunch \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 it was Barbara's Company French Toast \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 oh, the famous French toast recipe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0That's right, and if folks want to get the French toast recipe, they can get that online at FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 We'll let them go and visit that.\u00a0 But Barbara would prepare that the night before, and we would walk into the dining room, and I've got a picture, Bob, you can kind of see it here.\u00a0 This is after the food arrives, but she would set the table in a magnificent fashion with each plate having five kernels of corn on it, and then the family would be allowed to come in and sit down, and then before we did anything, she would read stories about the pilgrims, all the way from setting sail on the Mayflower to when they set up their colony and began to attempt to survive that first winter in New England.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Barbara is back with us today on the program.\u00a0 You actually have taken those stories you used to read and kind of rewritten them all to synthesize the story into one, and it's now in a book called, \"Thanksgiving, a Time To Remember,\" and it's designed to be read aloud at Thanksgiving time, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0That's right.\u00a0 I'm really hoping that this book will be a book that will become a tradition, much like at Christmas every year when families read the Christmas story.\u00a0 They read the Gospel of Luke and talk about Christ's birth, and I'm hoping that in a similar way, the story of the pilgrims will be read every year at Thanksgiving in families, and we will be reminded every year of what they gave us and what their faith produced in our country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0We forget about the fact that this is a uniquely American holiday \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0\u2026 that's right \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 nobody in Canada is going to be celebrating Thanksgiving \u2013 I don't think they celebrate it in Canada or in Mexico or other places around the world, do they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0I've heard that they have something in Canada, but it's not the same time of the year, and I do think that it is uniquely American.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm looking at this picture you had of the table \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0That's not very accurate, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Is Benjamin dressed in his camo?\u00a0 Is that what that is?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, we could have been hunting that morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Is it possible that the \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0\u2026 it's very possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0The men go hunting on Thanksgiving Day?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0No, no, no, no \u2013 what this was is this was a re-creation, because we forgot the camera that Thanksgiving Day, and so this was later on over the weekend, and we wanted to get a picture of everybody, so we re-created our table, and that's why Benjamin has on camo.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Would Dennis and the boys be allowed to the field to hunt on Thanksgiving Day?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0No, they usually don't go on Thanksgiving morning.\u00a0 That's sort of a no-no, because it cuts into our family time, and so they can go before \u2013 I mean, on Monday through Wednesday, they can go Friday and Saturday, but on Thursday, they don't go hunting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And that's okay with you and the boys, isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0No problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0We had to negotiate, but he finally agreed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0The whole celebrating process is one long \u2013 well, it's one long communication process of learning what to expect.\u00a0 I wrote down, on a 3x5 card, what I observed the kids doing as Barbara was reading the Thanksgiving story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0When did you write this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You know, I wish I would have dated this card, because I have no idea, but apparently the children were younger, because they were griping and angry about the juice.\u00a0 One person was ticked off that her brother had stolen a brush, the other one said, \"Mine, too,\" \"I'm hungry,\" \"I am not griping.\"\u00a0 Then one child, and I'll protect her identity since we only have four daughters, her lower lip was puckered out because Barbara would not let her read, probably because she couldn't read at that point.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We stopped in the middle of it and prayed, because there was so much chaos.\u00a0 In the middle of Barbara's reading, one child had his face down in the plate, and the other one was dropping the five kernels of corn on the plate and bouncing them, another child was walking and leaving the table, which we had to say, \"Come back and sit down.\"\u00a0 They said, and these are quotes, \"Let me play the piano,\" \"Let me read my journal,\" \"Let me read a book,\" \"Would you show me the picture?\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Now, if this doesn't remove any \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 any pretense \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 yeah, of Norman Rockwell, I mean, of this idyllic family that's sitting down and everyone is dutifully listening to Mom as she reads the story, it just never happened that way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0There had to be days, Barbara, when you said, \"Okay, we're never doing this again.\u00a0 I'm not reading this story next year.\u00a0 We're just going to have the food, and I'm sick of this, because they're not paying any attention.\u00a0 It's not getting through to them.\u00a0 They gripe in the middle of Thanksgiving.\"\u00a0 Has that ever happened?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0I was pretty persistent on this, because this was kind of my area.\u00a0 It was my objective to teach my kids to be thankful and to help them understand the Thanksgiving story.\u00a0 So I was going to do it every year, regardless.\u00a0 But last year, because we were going to be having some extra people that year for our Thanksgiving Day meal, and we had two little grandkids, and they weren't going to be taking naps during the time of the reading, and I said to Laura, \"Maybe we ought to just skip the story this year.\u00a0 It's going to be kind of crazy around here,\" and she was stunned that I would say that, and she said, \"We can't skip the story.\u00a0 That's tradition.\u00a0 We do it every year.\"\u00a0 And I said, \"Really?\"\u00a0 I said, \"Do you enjoy it?\"\u00a0 And she said, \"Yeah, we have to have the story.\"\u00a0 So I had my attempt at cutting it out, and the kids said no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's encouraging, isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0So we're back to where we were when we started.\u00a0 We now have little kids sitting at the table, and so last Thanksgiving little Samuel, who was two-and-a-half, was sitting there scribbling and knocking things and making noise, and I remember looking around the table thinking, \"Is anybody going to be able to hear anything I'm saying?\"\u00a0 So we're back to where we started.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Now, help me again with the chronology of the day.\u00a0 We've already established that no one can go hunting that morning.\u00a0 Everybody has to stay around the house.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Why do you keep saying this as a matter of record, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm just trying to make sure that \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 I don't go hunting \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 that this Thanksgiving you're where you're supposed to be.\u00a0 What time is brunch served?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Oh, usually, we eat about 10.\u00a0 So everybody gets up, and if we don't have the table set the night before, I get the girls busy on setting the table, and we usually try to sit down at 9 so we have plenty of time, but we stick the egg casserole and the French toast and all the stuff that has to bake is in the oven baking while we're reading the story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And so you sit down at 9 and plan to eat at 10?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Approximately.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So you've got an hour of being hungry and sitting at the breakfast table?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Approximately.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Okay, and what do you do during that hour?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0It doesn't always work quite like that, you know, but that's the goal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0What do you do during that hour?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, I read the story and sometimes in order to keep it moving, I would mark certain sections ahead of time, and I would pass the book, and I would ask a child, who is a teenager or junior high, who could read fairly well and say, \"Okay, I want you to read this section,\" or \"I want you to read that section,\" and because we've done it for a number of years, they know that we're going to also record things that we're thankful for.\u00a0 So I assume that they could even be sitting there thinking about what they're thankful for, too, but primarily the goal is to sit and listen to the pilgrim's story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And I think it's important for our listeners to know why you, as a mom, think it's so important for our children to hear the story of the pilgrims.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, I think, like anything else, repetition is a great teacher.\u00a0 So the more you hear something, the more you can remember it, the more you're going to enjoy it.\u00a0 It's going to become a tradition that the kids feel like they have to have, and that's always a benefit when you're trying to be a leader in the family and do something for the kids.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But the primary reason is that listening to the pilgrim's story is an occasion for our kids to be thankful, and for them to compare their lives, the ease in which we live in this century, with the hardship that the pilgrims endured and to compare the two and say, \"Boy, God has really been good to me.\u00a0 I have so much to be thankful for\" \u2013 so that the ultimate goal is for our children to understand the pilgrim's story and to become thankful and to be grateful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0In the book that you've written, you've told the Pilgrim story from the beginning, from the Mayflower all the way through the second Thanksgiving celebration, and it can be read, actually, in two different versions.\u00a0 One takes about a half an hour, the other takes about 45 minutes, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Right, right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And so if you want the whole story with all the details, you read through everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara\u00a0Everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0If you want the shorter version, the abridged story, you read just the big print, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Correct, correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And did you ever have \u2013 was there discussion following the story.\u00a0 After you were done reading, did you say, \"Okay, I'll go get the casseroles, and we'll eat,\" or did you talk about it at all?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara\u00a0Well, we never really had lengthy discussion but every once in a while someone would make a comment, you know, \"I just can't believe what they went through.\u00a0 I just can't believe what they endured.\"\u00a0 And when we would talk about even at other times other than Thanksgiving, it's amazing what the kids remember, because there are some great stories in there that kids can latch onto, even really young children can listen to and be captivated by because they're so dramatic and so the stories are what's going to sink into the attention of a child and stick there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0When the story is done, before the food is served, everybody gets a card, and this is something you started back when your kids were just real tiny, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Yeah, the first ones that I have are from about 1987, is my best guess, because I didn't date them, but our youngest was about two, and because she couldn't write yet, I have written \u2013 it's just a piece of notebook paper, and it's got scribbles all over it.\u00a0 I put her name on it, and then I remember asking her, \"Laura, what are you thankful for?\"\u00a0 And she told me, and I wrote her words on that paper because she couldn't write.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Do you have it here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Yeah, I have it.\u00a0 I've got all of these cards in an envelope that I've been collecting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0There's pink and blue and \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0\u2026 pink and blue and green.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Lots of crayons.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Yeah, she wasn't into spelling yet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0No, she was definitely not into spelling.\u00a0 She was about two or two-and-a-half, and this is what Laura said \u2013 \"I'm thankful\" \u2013 and these are her words \u2013 \"thankful for Mimi died and for John and Laurie.\"\u00a0 Mimi was my grandmother, which would have been her great-grandmother, and she had just recently died, and we had just been to the funeral a week before, so that was real fresh in her memory of a two-and-a-half-year-old, and so that was the first thing she said, \"Thankful for Mimi died and for Daddy and Jesus, for Benjamin and Samuel, for my presents, for my home and my blankie\" \u2013 two-and-a-half, and that's what she wrote.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Where did you get the idea of doing this back in 1987?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, I don't know that '87 was the very first year I did it.\u00a0 It could have been, maybe, the second or third, but what I did start to do is have the kids share what they were thankful for, and then it occurred to me, \"I need to have them write down what they're thankful for.\"\u00a0 So this is the first year I have their written responses to what they were thankful for, but I wanted them to put it on paper and to have to tangibly write what they were thankful for that year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Some years you did it on placecards.\u00a0 They just wrote on the back of their little placecard what they were thankful for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara\u00a0Again, there wasn't a system.\u00a0 I didn't have this all thought through when we started it.\u00a0 It wasn't well-oiled and well prepared.\u00a0 I just wanted my kids to be thankful, and I wanted them to record on paper what they were grateful for, and it sort of has evolved from notebook paper and coloring book paper to really nice cards.\u00a0 So we've sort of grown as we've gone through this process.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Is the expectation that this celebration continue, and this family time wil \u2013 that they're going to be here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, if I had to choose a holiday, it would be this one, and we haven't all been together, but my real hope is that they will do this with their family.\u00a0 As long as we can, as many times as they can come home to be with us, and we can do it together, that would be wonderful, but I'm realistic enough to know that that's not going to happen forever, so I just hope they will continue it with their families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Dennis, the year Benjamin was in Estonia was the first time, I think, that the family wasn't all together at Thanksgiving, but he sent an e-mail, didn't he?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0He actually sent seven e-mails \u2013 one to each family member, and each e-mail was a tribute of sorts, and we don't have time to read all seven of them, but after we'd gone all the way around the table and each person had shared the five things they were thankful for that year, I remember we all went into the computer, because he had sent this through an e-mail, and we all gathered around the computer and just cried.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I'm just going to read one that he wrote to his brother, and I think I picked this out because we figured that they would hate each other for the rest of their lives because of how they beat on one another their entire childhood years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But he writes this:\u00a0 \"Samuel, my little brother I used to beat up on all the time, and he would go crying to Mom, and then I'd have to re-stripe the parking lot out front or eat dirt and leaves for a month.\u00a0 You have turned into a mighty man of God, a heart of gold, a man of purity and devotion.\u00a0 You are a man after the very heart of God, and I admire that in you.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Well, Bob, you start reading this, and it's like, \"Now, wait a second\" \u2013\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Who wrote that for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0That's right, is this a ghost writer?\u00a0 I mean, these are the two boys \u2013 can you believe this is happening?\u00a0 And you're just looking at the smile on Samuel's face.\u00a0 It was really a classic moment.\u00a0 He goes on \u2013 \"There are many things that I wish I had in my life that you have in such abundance \u2013 your compassion, your listening ear, your love for all, and your ease with people, your heart for others, your heart for God and the things of His kingdom, your eternal focus, your perspective on life, your perseverance, I could go on and on.\u00a0 You are simply the man, and I truly and honestly look up to you.\u00a0 You are a true inspiration to me.\u00a0 Bro, there have been many times that I have asked the Lord to give me your MD\" \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 that's a reference to his muscular dystrophy\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 that's right \u2013 but I think He knows better.\u00a0 He knows that I couldn't handle it.\u00a0 You persevere and keep going with such grace and determination that I know our Father in heaven is pleased.\u00a0 He receives glory from your life, and I am grateful that I have had the wonderful opportunity to share in your life for 19 years.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I look forward to the next 19 years and more that God would truly bless our friendship and that lives would be changed as a result.\u00a0 You are my brother, and my Lord and King has graced me and blessed me with you.\u00a0 For that He is worthy of praise and honor.\u00a0 My feeble words fail trying to let you know how much I love you, so I'll use someone else's.\u00a0 John 15:12 \u2013\u00a0 'Greater love hath no one than this than he lay down his life for his friend.'\u00a0 My life is yours.\u00a0 I would do anything for you.\u00a0 I pray that verse would be an expression of my love for you.\u00a0 Serving the Lord with you, preaching His word, and advancing His kingdom, Benjamin.\u00a0 Thanksgiving 1997, Tallin, Estonia.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You know, you listen back to those words, even now, and you go \u2013 it didn't all happen perfectly but something happened, didn't it, Barbara?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0It did, and to be able to review what our kids have written \u2013 for us, if for nobody else, is a real treasure.\u00a0 It's a piece of the reward for persevering in parenting, and our kids are far from perfect, and they have a long way to go, but it's encouraging when we hear them giving thanks and when we hear them viewing life in the right perspective, and Thanksgiving Day is an opportunity to do that \u2013 to put everything in perspective and to remember what we've been given and to be grateful for it, and it's a privilege to be able to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yeah, and I think, as parents, we've got to recognize that we've got to be intentional, we've got an opportunity presented to us on this day, and we can let it pass like any other holiday and have food and watch football and call it a day, or we can be intentional and be purposeful about cultivating the right kind of heart in our children, and one way we do that is by exposing them to the heart of others who were thankful for much less, for far less than we have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And that's a part of what you do in the book, \"Thanksgiving, a Time to Remember.\"\u00a0 It tells the story of the pilgrims from the Mayflower all the way through their second Thanksgiving celebration, and you have designed it in a way that it can be shared and read as a part of the Thanksgiving celebration or in the days leading up to Thanksgiving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0In fact, our team also worked to have your book produced as an audiobook, and I think it turned out to be very good.\u00a0 We ought to play for our listeners, this is just a portion of the audiobook, and this is after the pilgrims have gone through the first very difficult winter in America.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNarrator:\u00a0With the days lengthening and the temperatures warming, the pilgrims turned their attention to planting the crops, desperately needed if they were to survive a second winter in America.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But they were interrupted by the reappearance of their new friend, Samoset, who arrived at the settlement with five Indians.\u00a0 Though the pilgrims didn't know it at the time, one of these Indians would play perhaps the largest role in the survival of New England.\u00a0 Bradford wrote of him that he was a special instrument sent of God for their good beyond their expectation.\u00a0 His name was Tisquantum, or Squanto, for short. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Then the story goes on from that point to tell about Squanto, his background, and his history and how God used him in the life of the pilgrims.\u00a0 And, of course, we have copies both of the book and the audiobook of \"Thanksgiving, a Time to Remember,\" in our FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You can go on our website at FamilyLife.com, click the \"Go\" button that you see in the middle of the home page.\u00a0 It's a red button that says \"Go.\"\u00a0 That will take you to the area of the site where there is more information about both the book and the audiobook of \"Thanksgiving, a Time to Remember,\" and our team has decided this year that if you are interested in getting a copy of the hardback book, we'll send along a copy of the audiobook at not additional cost.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So you can either hang onto both of those or pass one along to a family member, a friend, a neighbor, as a Thanksgiving gift.\u00a0 Again, the details on our website at FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 Click the red button you see in the middle of the home page that says \"Go,\" and that will take you to the area of the site where you can get all the information.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Or call us at 1-800-FLTODAY, that's 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY, and we'll have folks available who can answer any questions you have about these resources or make arrangements to have them sent out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You know, next week we will be celebrating the 15th anniversary of the launch of this program.\u00a0 FamilyLife Today originally went on the air on a network of about 22 radio stations.\u00a0 That was back in 1992, and now, 15 years later, our program is heard in nearly 1,000 cities all across the country.\u00a0 It's heard worldwide on the Internet, and on selected radio stations around the globe.\u00a0 Over the past 15 years our commitment has been to try to provide practical biblical help for your marriage and for your family every day as we produce this program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And I want to say a special thank you to those of you who have been financial partners with us in this effort.\u00a0 Your donations to the ministry of FamilyLife Today have made the last 15 years possible, and your ongoing support of this ministry will make the next months and years possible as well.\u00a0 We appreciate those of you who make donations to this ministry.\u00a0 We see you as partners with us in all that God is doing through the ministry of FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0This week and next week, if you're able to help with a donation of any amount for the ministry of FamilyLife Today, we'd like to send you a thank you gift.\u00a0 It's a book called \"While They Were Sleeping,\" and it's designed to provide parents with some specific guidance as we pray for our children.\u00a0 This book takes 12 different character qualities, and each week it gives you specific help as you pray for God to cultivate things like thankfulness in your child's heart, or integrity, honesty, other character qualities that all of us want to see God build into our children's lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0If you'd like to receive a copy of the book, \"While They Were Sleeping,\" you can request it when you make a donation of any amount this week.\u00a0 As you fill out the donation form on our website at FamilyLife.com, just write the world \"sleep\" in the keycode box on the donation form, and we'll know to send you a copy of this book.\u00a0 Or if you call 1-800-FLTODAY and make a donation over the phone, mention that you'd like the book, \"While They Were Sleeping\" and, again, we're happy to send it along to you as our way of saying thank you for your ongoing support of this ministry.\u00a0 We appreciate your generous giving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Then tomorrow we want to talk about some of the specific spiritual themes we can reinforce as we celebrate Thanksgiving with our families beyond the subject of Thanksgiving, what are some of the other things that the Thanksgiving holiday gives us a great opportunity to talk about and to reinforce.\u00a0 We'll discuss that tomorrow.\u00a0 I hope you can be back with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We'll see you back next time for another 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thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition.\u00a0 Three weeks from Thanksgiving, it will be Thanksgiving three weeks from today, and we're going to be talking to some parents today who \u2013 I think, if the Children's Protective Services knew that these parents forced their children to wait for Thanksgiving dinner until they had listened to the Thanksgiving story and had to write on cards and do all kinds of assignments, these parents could have been locked up.\u00a0 It's cruel \u2013 was the turkey sitting there just cooling while you \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No, no, it wasn't turkey.\u00a0 We actually did our Thanksgiving celebration before \u2013 a brunch \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 oh, around brunch \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 it was Barbara's Company French Toast \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 oh, the famous French toast 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it's now in a book called, \"Thanksgiving, a Time To Remember,\" and it's designed to be read aloud at Thanksgiving time, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0That's right.\u00a0 I'm really hoping that this book will be a book that will become a tradition, much like at Christmas every year when families read the Christmas story.\u00a0 They read the Gospel of Luke and talk about Christ's birth, and I'm hoping that in a similar way, the story of the pilgrims will be read every year at Thanksgiving in families, and we will be reminded every year of what they gave us and what their faith produced in our country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0We forget about the fact that this is a uniquely American holiday \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0\u2026 that's right \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 nobody in Canada is going to be celebrating Thanksgiving \u2013 I don't think they celebrate it in Canada or in Mexico or other 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later on over the weekend, and we wanted to get a picture of everybody, so we re-created our table, and that's why Benjamin has on camo.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Would Dennis and the boys be allowed to the field to hunt on Thanksgiving Day?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0No, they usually don't go on Thanksgiving morning.\u00a0 That's sort of a no-no, because it cuts into our family time, and so they can go before \u2013 I mean, on Monday through Wednesday, they can go Friday and Saturday, but on Thursday, they don't go hunting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And that's okay with you and the boys, isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0No problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0We had to negotiate, but he finally agreed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0The whole celebrating process is one long \u2013 well, it's one long communication process of learning what to expect.\u00a0 I wrote down, on a 3x5 card, what I observed the kids doing as Barbara was reading the Thanksgiving story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0When did you write this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You know, I wish I would have dated this card, because I have no idea, but apparently the children were younger, because they were griping and angry about the juice.\u00a0 One person was ticked off that her brother had stolen a brush, the other one said, \"Mine, too,\" \"I'm hungry,\" \"I am not griping.\"\u00a0 Then one child, and I'll protect her identity since we only have four daughters, her lower lip was puckered out because Barbara would not let her read, probably because she couldn't read at that point.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We stopped in the middle of it and prayed, because there was so much chaos.\u00a0 In the middle of Barbara's reading, one child had his face down in the plate, and the other one was 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attempt at cutting it out, and the kids said no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's encouraging, isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0So we're back to where we were when we started.\u00a0 We now have little kids sitting at the table, and so last Thanksgiving little Samuel, who was two-and-a-half, was sitting there scribbling and knocking things and making noise, and I remember looking around the table thinking, \"Is anybody going to be able to hear anything I'm saying?\"\u00a0 So we're back to where we started.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Now, help me again with the chronology of the day.\u00a0 We've already established that no one can go hunting that morning.\u00a0 Everybody has to stay around the house.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Why do you keep saying this as a matter of record, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm just trying to make sure that \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 I don't go hunting \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 that this Thanksgiving you're where you're supposed to be.\u00a0 What time is brunch served?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Oh, usually, we eat about 10.\u00a0 So everybody gets up, and if we don't have the table set the night before, I get the girls busy on setting the table, and we usually try to sit down at 9 so we have plenty of time, but we stick the egg casserole and the French toast and all the stuff that has to bake is in the oven baking while we're reading the story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And so you sit down at 9 and plan to eat at 10?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Approximately.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So you've got an hour of being hungry and sitting at the breakfast table?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Approximately.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Okay, and what do you do during that hour?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0It doesn't always work quite like that, you know, but that's the goal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0What do you do during that hour?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, I read the story and sometimes in order to keep it moving, I would mark certain sections ahead of time, and I would pass the book, and I would ask a child, who is a teenager or junior high, who could read fairly well and say, \"Okay, I want you to read this section,\" or \"I want you to read that section,\" and because we've done it for a number of years, they know that we're going to also record things that we're thankful for.\u00a0 So I assume that they could even be sitting there thinking about what they're thankful for, too, but primarily the goal is to sit and listen to the pilgrim's story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And I think it's important for our listeners to know why you, as a mom, think it's so important for our children to hear the story of the pilgrims.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, I think, like anything else, repetition is a great teacher.\u00a0 So the more you hear something, the more you can remember it, the more you're going to enjoy it.\u00a0 It's going to become a tradition that the kids feel like they have to have, and that's always a benefit when you're trying to be a leader in the family and do something for the kids.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But the primary reason is that listening to the pilgrim's story is an occasion for our kids to be thankful, and for them to compare their lives, the ease in which we live in this century, with the hardship that the pilgrims endured and to compare the two and say, \"Boy, God has really been good to me.\u00a0 I have so much to be thankful for\" \u2013 so that the ultimate goal is for our children to understand the pilgrim's story and to become thankful and to be grateful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0In the book that you've written, you've told the Pilgrim story from the beginning, from the Mayflower all the way through the second Thanksgiving celebration, and it can be read, actually, in two different versions.\u00a0 One takes about a half an hour, the other takes about 45 minutes, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Right, right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And so if you want the whole story with all the details, you read through everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara\u00a0Everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0If you want the shorter version, the abridged story, you read just the big print, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Correct, correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And did you ever have \u2013 was there discussion following the story.\u00a0 After you were done reading, did you say, \"Okay, I'll go get the casseroles, and we'll eat,\" or did you talk about it at all?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara\u00a0Well, we never really had lengthy discussion but every once in a while someone would make a comment, you know, \"I just can't believe what they went through.\u00a0 I just can't believe what they endured.\"\u00a0 And when we would talk about even at other times other than Thanksgiving, it's amazing what the kids remember, because there are some great stories in there that kids can latch onto, even really young children can listen to and be captivated by because they're so dramatic and so the stories are what's going to sink into the attention of a child and stick there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0When the story is done, before the food is served, everybody gets a card, and this is something you started back when your kids were just real tiny, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Yeah, the first ones that I have are from about 1987, is my best guess, because I didn't date them, but our youngest was about two, and because she couldn't write yet, I have written \u2013 it's just a piece of notebook paper, and it's got scribbles all over it.\u00a0 I put her name on it, and then I remember asking her, \"Laura, what are you thankful for?\"\u00a0 And she told me, and I wrote her words on that paper because she couldn't write.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Do you have it here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Yeah, I have it.\u00a0 I've got all of these cards in an envelope that I've been collecting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0There's pink and blue and \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0\u2026 pink and blue and green.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Lots of crayons.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Yeah, she wasn't into spelling yet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0No, she was definitely not into spelling.\u00a0 She was about two or two-and-a-half, and this is what Laura said \u2013 \"I'm thankful\" \u2013 and these are her words \u2013 \"thankful for Mimi died and for John and Laurie.\"\u00a0 Mimi was my grandmother, which would have been her great-grandmother, and she had just recently died, and we had just been to the funeral a week before, so that was real fresh in her memory of a two-and-a-half-year-old, and so that was the first thing she said, \"Thankful for Mimi died and for Daddy and Jesus, for Benjamin and Samuel, for my presents, for my home and my blankie\" \u2013 two-and-a-half, and that's what she wrote.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Where did you get the idea of doing this back in 1987?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, I don't know that '87 was the very first year I did it.\u00a0 It could have been, maybe, the second or third, but what I did start to do is have the kids share what they were thankful for, and then it occurred to me, \"I need to have them write down what they're thankful for.\"\u00a0 So this is the first year I have their written responses to what they were thankful for, but I wanted them to put it on paper and to have to tangibly write what they were thankful for that year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Some years you did it on placecards.\u00a0 They just wrote on the back of their little placecard what they were thankful for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara\u00a0Again, there wasn't a system.\u00a0 I didn't have this all thought through when we started it.\u00a0 It wasn't well-oiled and well prepared.\u00a0 I just wanted my kids to be thankful, and I wanted them to record on paper what they were grateful for, and it sort of has evolved from notebook paper and coloring book paper to really nice cards.\u00a0 So we've sort of grown as we've gone through this process.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Is the expectation that this celebration continue, and this family time wil \u2013 that they're going to be here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0Well, if I had to choose a holiday, it would be this one, and we haven't all been together, but my real hope is that they will do this with their family.\u00a0 As long as we can, as many times as they can come home to be with us, and we can do it together, that would be wonderful, but I'm realistic enough to know that that's not going to happen forever, so I just hope they will continue it with their families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Dennis, the year Benjamin was in Estonia was the first time, I think, that the family wasn't all together at Thanksgiving, but he sent an e-mail, didn't he?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0He actually sent seven e-mails \u2013 one to each family member, and each e-mail was a tribute of sorts, and we don't have time to read all seven of them, but after we'd gone all the way around the table and each person had shared the five things they were thankful for that year, I remember we all went into the computer, because he had sent this through an e-mail, and we all gathered around the computer and just cried.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I'm just going to read one that he wrote to his brother, and I think I picked this out because we figured that they would hate each other for the rest of their lives because of how they beat on one another their entire childhood years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But he writes this:\u00a0 \"Samuel, my little brother I used to beat up on all the time, and he would go crying to Mom, and then I'd have to re-stripe the parking lot out front or eat dirt and leaves for a month.\u00a0 You have turned into a mighty man of God, a heart of gold, a man of purity and devotion.\u00a0 You are a man after the very heart of God, and I admire that in you.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Well, Bob, you start reading this, and it's like, \"Now, wait a second\" \u2013\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Who wrote that for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0That's right, is this a ghost writer?\u00a0 I mean, these are the two boys \u2013 can you believe this is happening?\u00a0 And you're just looking at the smile on Samuel's face.\u00a0 It was really a classic moment.\u00a0 He goes on \u2013 \"There are many things that I wish I had in my life that you have in such abundance \u2013 your compassion, your listening ear, your love for all, and your ease with people, your heart for others, your heart for God and the things of His kingdom, your eternal focus, your perspective on life, your perseverance, I could go on and on.\u00a0 You are simply the man, and I truly and honestly look up to you.\u00a0 You are a true inspiration to me.\u00a0 Bro, there have been many times that I have asked the Lord to give me your MD\" \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0\u2026 that's a reference to his muscular dystrophy\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 that's right \u2013 but I think He knows better.\u00a0 He knows that I couldn't handle it.\u00a0 You persevere and keep going with such grace and determination that I know our Father in heaven is pleased.\u00a0 He receives glory from your life, and I am grateful that I have had the wonderful opportunity to share in your life for 19 years.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I look forward to the next 19 years and more that God would truly bless our friendship and that lives would be changed as a result.\u00a0 You are my brother, and my Lord and King has graced me and blessed me with you.\u00a0 For that He is worthy of praise and honor.\u00a0 My feeble words fail trying to let you know how much I love you, so I'll use someone else's.\u00a0 John 15:12 \u2013\u00a0 'Greater love hath no one than this than he lay down his life for his friend.'\u00a0 My life is yours.\u00a0 I would do anything for you.\u00a0 I pray that verse would be an expression of my love for you.\u00a0 Serving the Lord with you, preaching His word, and advancing His kingdom, Benjamin.\u00a0 Thanksgiving 1997, Tallin, Estonia.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You know, you listen back to those words, even now, and you go \u2013 it didn't all happen perfectly but something happened, didn't it, Barbara?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara:\u00a0It did, and to be able to review what our kids have written \u2013 for us, if for nobody else, is a real treasure.\u00a0 It's a piece of the reward for persevering in parenting, and our kids are far from perfect, and they have a long way to go, but it's encouraging when we hear them giving thanks and when we hear them viewing life in the right perspective, and Thanksgiving Day is an opportunity to do that \u2013 to put everything in perspective and to remember what we've been given and to be grateful for it, and it's a privilege to be able to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yeah, and I think, as parents, we've got to recognize that we've got to be intentional, we've got an opportunity presented to us on this day, and we can let it pass like any other holiday and have food and watch football and call it a day, or we can be intentional and be purposeful about cultivating the right kind of heart in our children, and one way we do that is by exposing them to the heart of others who were thankful for much less, for far less than we have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And that's a part of what you do in the book, \"Thanksgiving, a Time to Remember.\"\u00a0 It tells the story of the pilgrims from the Mayflower all the way through their second Thanksgiving celebration, and you have designed it in a way that it can be shared and read as a part of the Thanksgiving celebration or in the days leading up to Thanksgiving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0In fact, our team also worked to have your book produced as an audiobook, and I think it turned out to be very good.\u00a0 We ought to play for our listeners, this is just a portion of the audiobook, and this is after the pilgrims have gone through the first very difficult winter in America.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNarrator:\u00a0With the days lengthening and the temperatures warming, the pilgrims turned their attention to planting the crops, desperately needed if they were to survive a second winter in America.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But they were interrupted by the reappearance of their new friend, Samoset, who arrived at the settlement with five Indians.\u00a0 Though the pilgrims didn't know it at the time, one of these Indians would play perhaps the largest role in the survival of New England.\u00a0 Bradford wrote of him that he was a special instrument sent of God for their good beyond their expectation.\u00a0 His name was Tisquantum, or Squanto, for short. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Then the story goes on from that point to tell about Squanto, his background, and his history and how God used him in the life of the pilgrims.\u00a0 And, of course, we have copies both of the book and the audiobook of \"Thanksgiving, a Time to Remember,\" in our FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You can go on our website at FamilyLife.com, click the \"Go\" button that you see in the middle of the home page.\u00a0 It's a red button that says \"Go.\"\u00a0 That will take you to the area of the site where there is more information about both the book and the audiobook of \"Thanksgiving, a Time to Remember,\" and our team has decided this year that if you are interested in getting a copy of the hardback book, we'll send along a copy of the audiobook at not additional cost.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So you can either hang onto both of those or pass one along to a family member, a friend, a neighbor, as a Thanksgiving gift.\u00a0 Again, the details on our website at FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 Click the red button you see in the middle of the home page that says \"Go,\" and that will take you to the area of the site where you can get all the information.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Or call us at 1-800-FLTODAY, that's 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY, and we'll have folks available who can answer any questions you have about these resources or make arrangements to have them sent out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You know, next week we will be celebrating the 15th anniversary of the launch of this program.\u00a0 FamilyLife Today originally went on the air on a network of about 22 radio stations.\u00a0 That was back in 1992, and now, 15 years later, our program is heard in nearly 1,000 cities all across the country.\u00a0 It's heard worldwide on the Internet, and on selected radio stations around the globe.\u00a0 Over the past 15 years our commitment has been to try to provide practical biblical help for your marriage and for your family every day as we produce this program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And I want to say a special thank you to those of you who have been financial partners with us in this effort.\u00a0 Your donations to the ministry of FamilyLife Today have made the last 15 years possible, and your ongoing support of this ministry will make the next months and years possible as well.\u00a0 We appreciate those of you who make donations to this ministry.\u00a0 We see you as partners with us in all that God is doing through the ministry of FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0This week and next week, if you're able to help with a donation of any amount for the ministry of FamilyLife Today, we'd like to send you a thank you gift.\u00a0 It's a book called \"While They Were Sleeping,\" and it's designed to provide parents with some specific guidance as we pray for our children.\u00a0 This book takes 12 different character qualities, and each week it gives you specific help as you pray for God to cultivate things like thankfulness in your child's heart, or integrity, honesty, other character qualities that all of us want to see God build into our children's lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0If you'd like to receive a copy of the book, \"While They Were Sleeping,\" you can request it when you make a donation of any amount this week.\u00a0 As you fill out the donation form on our website at FamilyLife.com, just write the world \"sleep\" in the keycode box on the donation form, and we'll know to send you a copy of this book.\u00a0 Or if you call 1-800-FLTODAY and make a donation over the phone, mention that you'd like the book, \"While They Were Sleeping\" and, again, we're happy to send it along to you as our way of saying thank you for your ongoing support of this ministry.\u00a0 We appreciate your generous giving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Then tomorrow we want to talk about some of the specific spiritual themes we can reinforce as we celebrate Thanksgiving with our families beyond the subject of Thanksgiving, what are some of the other things that the Thanksgiving holiday gives us a great opportunity to talk about and to reinforce.\u00a0 We'll discuss that tomorrow.\u00a0 I hope you can be back with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We'll see you back next time for another edition of FamilyLife Today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0FamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas, a ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ. 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