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orphans.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2007-08-06.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0It's a church-based home, a small-group environment.\u00a0 The church commits to taking care of the kids, educating the kids, feeding the kids, teaching them about Jesus, mentoring spiritually.\u00a0 It's basically, you know, all their needs, and we just provide the non-glamorous, brick-and-mortar beds parts so they can do what God's called them to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0This is FamilyLife Today for Monday, August 6th.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Because of what Troy Wiseman has done, there are children in other countries today who have a place to sleep and to have food to eat.\u00a0 He'll explain how it all works on today's program.\u00a0 Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us.\u00a0 I was recently with my daughter up in Manhattan.\u00a0 We were walking down the streets of New York City and, you've been up there, you know, so \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0On each corner there's somebody set up with knock-off purses.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You have a real nice-looking Rolex, in fact.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's right, yeah, do you think I could get another day or two before it goes out?\u00a0 In fact, we were talking about all of this stuff that's for sales on the street corners, and I turned to my daughter and said, \"Do you need a new $5 purse that will last you for a week?\"\u00a0 And we were chuckling about that, and then one of her friends said, \"You know, when you buy one of those purses, you're chaining an orphan to a sweat shop in some foreign country \u2013 in China or in Cambodia, someplace like that,\" because he said, \"They've got these kids who are mass-producing these knock-off purses, and they're sitting at their desk seven days a week.\u00a0 They're 11 years old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Virtually in slavery?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yeah, and I thought, \"Is that true?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0That kind of changes the picture of those knock-offs, doesn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You don't want to buy the $5 purse at that point, and then I thought, \"Well, I don't know if that's true, but maybe our guest today who has seen some of those factories and some of those orphanages can help us understand whether that's true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, we have a guest who has been all over the world and has got a heart for the orphan.\u00a0 Troy Wiseman joins us.\u00a0 Troy, welcome to FamilyLife Today and welcome to some comrades who also share your passion for orphans.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Good to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Troy is \u2013 well, honestly, Troy, I've seen a lot of bios, but yours is one of the more difficult.\u00a0 You serve on several boards, both nonprofit and for profit, you have a heart for the orphan, you had a heart for the lost, you have a heart for business.\u00a0 You're a multi-talented, former BUM clothing designer.\u00a0 He actually invented BUM clothing as a young man at the age of \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Twenty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Twenty years old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Did you draw those letters, that BUM on a napkin or something?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0No, we actually had a lot of different labels.\u00a0 The BUM brand, we actually \u2013 we actually bought the name, but \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yeah, but the outlined letters, who came up with that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Well, we actually just put the dots in to make people wonder what the dots meant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And you had no meaning at all for what it \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0No meaning \u2013 whatever they said it meant we said that they were right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, you and your wife, Tina, have four sons.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0That's right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And you have a heart for orphans, and let's go to Bob's question \u2013 what about it?\u00a0 Are orphans fueling the knock-off industry?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Well, yeah, I mean, it's more the slavery of children and how that really works is some promoter will go into a village in India where the parents are having a hard time taking care of the kids saying, \"Hey, we've got a great opportunity.\u00a0 They can go work in this country.\u00a0 We have lots of kids there.\u00a0 They can make the money.\u00a0 You can't provide them school, and you can't provide them a better life.\u00a0 We can, and you're doing them a favor,\" so it's really \u2013 they're not educated enough to know that their kids are going to become slaves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0They take them to this far-off land to make clothes or these purses that you're talking about \u2013 or watches or carpet.\u00a0 As soon as they get to the country, they take away their passport \u2013 remember, these kids are 7, 8, 9, 10 years old and say, \"Look, you have no passport, you're in a foreign country.\u00a0 If you go to the police, you're going to jail,\" and they're slaves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, you know, the girls are kind of herded into the sex trade, and the boys are into the mining or the carpet or whatever, but it's scary.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Rough estimates \u2013 how many children involved in slavery of all kinds around the world?\u00a0 There are numbers being debated.\u00a0 What's your take on it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0You know, I'm not really an expert on that part of the, let's say, sinful environment.\u00a0 I just know that they're kids and they have hearts, and they're scared, and I don't even think it's the work that is so horrible.\u00a0 It's they don't know when they're getting out.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I mean, they're little kids, right?\u00a0 They're crying, they're scared, they're hungry, they want friendships, they want to go to school.\u00a0 I mean, it's bondage, it's emotionally \u2013 that's tough.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0When you were setting up factories for BUM and for your other clothing businesses in other countries, is that where you first became aware of this phenomenon and is that where your heart for the orphan began to develop?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Yeah, definitely the heart for the orphan \u2013 we ended up having factories in 19 countries, and so the first factory we built was in Mexico City.\u00a0 My wife and I moved there shortly after we got married, and it was really just seeing the kids on the street.\u00a0 We weren't smart enough to really understand that there was a sweatshop trade in those days.\u00a0 We just saw these kids out there sniffing glue and homeless, and we just said, \"Look, if God allows us to survive this business, we're going to try to make a difference with these kids that are parentless and homeless.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You know, sometimes they run away because they're a single parent, or there's abuse or their parents are alcoholics or whatever.\u00a0 I mean, listen, you can be an orphan in the States.\u00a0 I mean, how many people in my neighborhood where I live never see their parents because they're working 24\/7.\u00a0 To me, that's an orphan.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You begin to see these children and, as a result, develop a heart for the orphan.\u00a0 When were the dots connected where you said, \"You know, I've got to do something,\" and you went ahead and created World Orphans?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0The passion came the very first day I was trying to get to the factory, and I see a five-year-old kid out there trying to wash my window or sell me Chiclets.\u00a0 So it was immediate.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0My wife got pregnant four months after we were married in Mexico City, and so when you're a parent, everything changes, as you know, right?\u00a0 And to think of your little son or little daughter at five \u2013 I mean, we cry when they go to kindergarten, right?\u00a0 On the street with 20 million people in the middle of traffic selling Chiclets?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So that happened to my wife and I both at the same time, and she's a special ed teacher by degree, so her heart's always kind of been compassionate, anyway.\u00a0 But we didn't start World Orphans until we actually had some funding to honor the commitment when we told each other we would do it.\u00a0 So that was 1993.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And World Orphans exists to try to do what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0World Orphans was really to assist in the brick-and-mortar aspect of a children's home.\u00a0 Orphanage sounds a little bit more institutional, it's not really what we do.\u00a0 What we wanted to do is \u2013 we knew that there was a lot of ministries and people that could pay 25 bucks a month or 30 bucks a month to take care of a kid, get him food, medicine, clothing, school, whatever.\u00a0 But even for a local church here, who had a parachurch, you know, in a Third World country to go to their congregation and say, \"You know what?\u00a0 We need $10,000 or $20,000 or $30,000 to build a home for 40 kids you're never going to see.\"\u00a0 There's no emotion, you don't get a letter, you don't \u2013 so there was a big void in \"Okay, we can take care of the kids, but we can't put them anywhere.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And so we didn't need the letter, what we needed was to provide a vehicle that would facilitate the other part of the equation and so it was really to partner with a church \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You're speaking of the church there in that country?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Yeah, indigenous church, right.\u00a0 And the referral might have come from a church in the States, but it has to be a church, because the church becomes a family of the kids, and so if they already have a church building, they already have the land \u2013 the cost is just the brick and the beds and it's a lot, you know, more economical and what happens is the church becomes the family for the kids.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We typically will put a widow, especially in countries like Cambodia or places where the parents got killed by a land mine or \u2013 you know, these kids lost their parents, right?\u00a0 And a widow can relate to that loss much better than, let's say, a house parent who has three of their own kids that's there trying to take care of the kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So, you know, over time, the model developed a little bit differently, but it's a church-based home, a small group environment, the church commits to taking care of the kids, educating the kids, feeding the kids, teaching them about Jesus, mentoring spiritually \u2013 it's basically all their needs, and we just provide the non-glamorous, brick-and-mortar, beds part so they can do what God's called them to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And since 1993, how many of these \u2013 you don't want to call them orphanages, but \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Children's homes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Children's homes have you built alongside a church?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Over 500 in about 46 countries, and sometimes the church will send a missions team to build it.\u00a0 Sometimes some other people have kicked in.\u00a0 So we were certainly the catalyst for all 500.\u00a0 Sometimes we funded the whole thing, sometimes it was a portion thereof.\u00a0 But we certainly were the catalyst for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Troy, you know this about FamilyLife \u2013 four years ago we started Hope for Orphans, and Paul Pennington giving leadership to that and helped form a coalition of ministries \u2013 Focus on the Family, Stephen Curtis Chapman, Saddleback out of Southern California, a bunch of churches and ministries joining together to really become the voice of the orphan.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And we've created a book that is called \"Eight Steps to Launching an Orphan Ministry in Your Church.\"\u00a0 And one of the reasons why I wanted to ask you to come and be on our broadcast to share your story is I would hope that as laymen and women launch these orphan ministries, foster care ministries, adoption ministries in their church, that some of them would end up partnering with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I mean, I think this is a great opportunity we have today with 143 million orphans worldwide, 14 million children aging out of whatever system they are in into adulthood without a family.\u00a0 I mean, 14 million a year.\u00a0 I mean, this is a crisis of enormous proportions, and if the Christian community doesn't do it, no one is going to do it.\u00a0 In fact, the church has been the one that's done it throughout the years, over the past couple of thousands years, it's been the church that's led the way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, frankly, the thing that impressed me most about what you're doing and your model is, in many cases, it's tied to a church here in the States, and you won't do it there in that country on the continent of Africa or in other countries throughout the world unless you have a church to tie that children's home to it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0That's exactly right.\u00a0 You know, a lot of the institutional orphanages, when we first started World Orphans, were more of a hospital, they were these huge buildings.\u00a0 Listen, obviously, adoption and foster care are the best model.\u00a0 In our opinion, we'd much rather see an orphan with a family.\u00a0 But in places like Kenya and sub-Sahara Africa there is overload.\u00a0 They can't take anymore.\u00a0 There's no more \u2013 that's not an option.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But the church, we believe that the kids should stay in the same community that they grew up in.\u00a0 They already lost enough.\u00a0 That church brings them in, they know the culture, they can go to the same school, they're in the same environment, they have their same friends and, not only that, the church now is viewed by the community, the non-Christian community saying, \"Look what they're doing.\u00a0 They're taking these kids and they're\" \u2013 you know, even sometimes with the adoption, the local community says \"You know what?\u00a0 They're just doing it because they make money, or they're selling the kids or whatever.\"\u00a0 They don't say that when they see you take 40 kids off the street, and you're feeding them, and you're getting them to school, and you're loving them and whatever.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So the church is really key, and the accountability is even more phenomenal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0The church that I attend is connected with a church in South Africa where there is a house set up for children who have AIDS.\u00a0 I mean, that's the exclusive population group.\u00a0 These are orphan kids who have AIDS or who are HIV positive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, you're right about the impact of that in the local community; how that is a witness; how it adorns the Gospel; how it makes people aware of what the message of Christ is all about; and how it fulfills the command of Christ to care for the widows and the orphans.\u00a0 And our church is thrilled to be playing a small part \u2013 in fact, I wish we could be doing more, and \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I'm sure folks listening to our program think, \"Well, this sounds like something that would be a great thing for a church to do, but we don't have the connections, we don't know a church in Africa or in Asia.\u00a0 If some church had an interest but didn't know what to do beyond that interest, what can they do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Troy:\u00a0Well, relative to world orphans, I mean, they can certainly go onto the website or call, and we can hook them up with a parachurch.\u00a0 One of the things that we found is it's got to be the people, it's go to be the congregation in the church getting behind the pastor.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You know, everybody seems to always want to blame the pastor \u2013 we're not doing anything, we're not being proactive, whatever, but, really, it's the people in the congregation.\u00a0 You have to form a small team to say, \"Hey, we're going to lead this.\u00a0 We're passionate about this,\" and instead of just talking about it actually doing something about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0That's what I like about the Orphan Conference.\u00a0 You guys said we're going to empower, we're going to be a catalyst for making the world a better place and rescue more orphans.\u00a0 You guys were first to do that, in my opinion, from a big organization, and that inspired me and it inspired a lot of people that I know because we got out of the way and let God kind of move.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And so we're going to be the same way.\u00a0 Listen, it's not about the brick, it's not about is it better to have clean water or AIDS orphans or medical, it's about the child and what God is going to do in the life of that child, and so there's no \u2013 which is better \u2013 it's whatever God is calling you to do.\u00a0 Just get involved and do something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So does World Orphans help a church in the States find a church to connect with and put the two of you together and help you figure out how to do all of this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Let's say we could.\u00a0 Normally, a church calls us and says \"We have a need.\u00a0 We have missionaries in this country, we have the pastor, we have the church, we have the kids getting dropped off at our doorstep.\u00a0 We have 40 people in our congregation that have agreed to take care of a kid each.\u00a0 We need a building.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So typically they're calling us and saying we will educate them spiritually, physically, mentally, we'll do everything we need to do, but we need a building.\u00a0 So typically that's how it comes.\u00a0 A lot of these churches are called the \"planting\" churches, internationally, and one of the models that we have is \u2013 well, you're already building a church, and we want to build a children's home.\u00a0 So if we put the children's home on the second floor, the cost for both of us go way down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So we've done quite a few children's homes where the second floor is the children's home, the bottom is the church, and the costs are half for both.\u00a0 Now it's really, really cool for the church to be going there, and the kids are there all the time, and they've got the small group going on, and it's amazing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You send me an e-mail back before Christmas of something that took place to one of your homes that you built for a group of children where there were a group of extremists who came and literally destroyed the children's home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Yeah, they did.\u00a0 It was a Muslim group that basically was an extremist group and, fortunately, for us, they gave the kids and the house parents a chance to get out of the home, and they destroyed the church.\u00a0 They torched everything, they bulldozed it down, and you're going to have those situations.\u00a0 We just rebuild.\u00a0 What are you going to do?\u00a0 You can't run and hide, and so it was a sad situation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0That was pretty terrifying for those kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0It was very terrifying for those kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I mean, they could have all been \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0They could have been killed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Exterminated.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Absolutely.\u00a0 And it wasn't \u2013 that act of terrorism was about the message of Jesus.\u00a0 It was about \u2013 it was a spiritual battle, and we're going to have to fight those battles.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There's a passage of Scripture that says, \"Do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good.\"\u00a0 That's really what you're doing, isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0That's what we're trying to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You know, here is the thing I want our listeners to see \u2013 here is a man, a couple, a family, just like your family, you might live next door to them, who saw a need, stepped out and did something on a very small, very modest scale initially, just trying to make a difference.\u00a0 And now, since 1993, 500 children's homes later, I think you're an inspiration to a lot of people who wonder if they can make a difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And I think one of the great ploys of the enemy is he takes people when they have a seed of faith, they have a thought that perhaps God gives them to step out and to make a difference.\u00a0 And the enemy comes along real quickly and goes, \"It's not going to matter.\u00a0 You're not going to impact that many.\u00a0 It's only 40 children in one home.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But you know what?\u00a0 If you build enough homes and impact enough groups of 40 children, you can make a difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTroy:\u00a0Yeah, we always say one life at a time, and then we also say \"Until they all have homes, you've got to do it one life at a time.\"\u00a0 And giving of your time, talent, and treasure is all equal.\u00a0 You might not have the treasure yet, give your time, give your thoughts.\u00a0 Writing a check is probably the easier one of the three.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0My challenge to the listener is FamilyLife is looking for 1,000 churches to start an orphan care, foster care, adoption ministry in their local church all headed up by laymen just like you describe \u2013 laymen and women who are willing to step out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And we've got a simple book called \"Launching an Orphan Ministry in Your Church.\"\u00a0 It's eight simple steps of how you can go about it.\u00a0 It's got a DVD included.\u00a0 It's all about empowering people who care to make a difference with just one life at a time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And if we've touched you today, and you think maybe God's calling you to consider doing something like that, I'd just challenge you, as a listener, to go online at FamilyLife.com or call our 800 number and order the book and take a look at this because you know what?\u00a0 You may be the next Troy Wiseman.\u00a0 You may launch something that may someday far exceed your wildest imagination.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0If you do go online at FamilyLife.com, you will see a red button that's near the middle of the screen that says \"Go.\"\u00a0 If you click that button, it will take you right to the area of the site where there is more information about the book you're talking about on starting an orphan ministry in your church and, as you said, it comes with a DVD in the back of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0This is a very helpful guide for laymen and women, for anybody whose got a heart for this, to be able to follow what we've laid out and get something started in your church \u2013 reaching out to the needy kids all around the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Again, the website is FamilyLife.com, click the red \"Go\" button you see in the middle of the screen for more information about this book, or call us at 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That's 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY, and we'll have somebody get you the information on how you can get a copy of this book sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0During the month of August, we are asking all of you, as listeners, to consider doing a couple of things for us.\u00a0 August is the end of our fiscal year.\u00a0 At the end of this month, we will close the books on one year, and we'll start a brand-new year, and so what we're asking folks to do is consider making what amounts to a year-end donation to the ministry of FamilyLife, and I know in August it doesn't feel like year-end, but for us it is our financial year-end, and so if you can make a donation this month, it would be very helpful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But we want you to do more than just make a donation.\u00a0 We want you to consider issuing a challenge to other listeners to join with you.\u00a0 We have set up a Challenge Fund where FamilyLife Today listeners can challenge other listeners like you to help support the ministry of FamilyLife as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0In fact, we just had a listener who called in and issued a challenge.\u00a0 She had read Dennis's new book, \"Interviewing Your Daughter's Date,\" and she wanted to challenge other folks who have teenage daughters who have either gotten a copy of that book or have had to wrestle with these kinds of issues to also match her donation of $50 with a donation of your own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We've been hearing from folks who are challenging listeners of other FamilyLife Today stations like a listener in Chattanooga listening on WMBW who wanted to challenge other Chattanooga area listeners to make a donation to support FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We've heard from listeners in Los Angeles, listening on KKLA, and a listener who tunes in on KCBI in the Dallas-Fort Worth area \u2013 all of them issuing a challenge to other listeners and say, \"Join me and help support the ministry of FamilyLife Today here during the month of August.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So if you would consider not just making a donation this month but also issuing a challenge of your own, we'd like to see if we can get this year's challenge fund to help us end our fiscal year in a healthy place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You can make a donation online at FamilyLife.com or you can call 1-800-FLTODAY and make a donation over the phone.\u00a0 If you're donating online, there is a space at the end of your donation form where you can issue your challenge, and if you're calling, just tell whoever takes your call about the challenge that you'd like to issue and let me say thanks in advance for your partnership with us.\u00a0 We appreciate hearing from you, and we look forward to seeing some of these challenges.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Well, tomorrow we want to invite you back.\u00a0 Troy Wiseman is going to be back with us, and we're going to hear about how God really stirred his heart on this issue of orphan care, and we'll hear more about what he's doing in response to that.\u00a0 We'll also hear how he first came to faith in Christ, and that's kind of an interesting story.\u00a0 I hope you can be with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We'll see you back tomorrow for another edition of FamilyLife Today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0FamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas, a ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t_______________________________________________________________\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts for you. 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