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father.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2007-02-20.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Pat Gelsinger is the chief technology officer at Intel.\u00a0 One year he had made plans for the family vacation when something came up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0There was an important project launch going to occur, it came out of my group.\u00a0 I was supposed to be the executive announcing the product, and I told Andy Grove that I was going to keep my commitment to the family vacation, and I was going to have one of my team members do the product announcement, and I did.\u00a0 And he was upset.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0This is FamilyLife Today for Tuesday, February 20th.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will hear how things went in the showdown between the boss and the vacation.\u00a0 Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us.\u00a0 You're a type A, aren't you?\u00a0 I mean, I'm not exactly sure where they came up with these types or \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0What are you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm B positive.\u00a0 I had my blood tested last week, and that's what I am, I'm B positive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I think Barbara would say I'm type A.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0But we're not talking about your blood type?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No, we're not, and, in fact, what we're going to talk about today are chips and wafers.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0All right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Chips and wafers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm always up for a good food discussion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And I'm going to ask our guest on FamilyLife Today, Pat Gelsinger, to explain what a chip is and what a wafer is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, there are lots of kinds of chips, but the ones I work with are called silicon chips.\u00a0 And what happens is you have a silicon ingot sliced into wafers, horizontal little flat surfaces that individual chips are patterned into that have been sliced up and then put into computers, and that's what runs our computers, our networks, our TV, all of those kinds of things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And so this chip that I'm holding that is approximately an inch and a half square, exactly what does this chip contain that I'm holding here in my hand?\u00a0 I understand it's worth about $2,500.\u00a0 What does it do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, it will do particular processing functions, so it could be at the middle of a big computer, and it would operate, potentially, several hundred million transistors as part of it.\u00a0 There are also hundreds of millions of transistors, little gadgets inside of it \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0In that one-inch square flat thing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Yes, yes.\u00a0 We can build them that they have as many as a billion transistors stored in one of those chips.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And you explained this earlier before we came in the studio \u2013 those transistors, how many of them can be laid end-to-end on the width of a human hair?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Maybe 100.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Okay, this is kind of hurting my brain here.\u00a0 So we're talking microscopic transistors \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Yes, yes \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That are built in your laboratories out in California?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, in our fabs around the world we have them, but most of the research is done on the West Coast and our facilities in Oregon and Santa Clara and so on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, if you're wondering who Pat works for, fortunately, it's not a subversive organization, because anybody could build something that that's small \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Here's who it is \u2013 it's [Intel theme].\u00a0 How's that?\u00a0 That's close.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0It is close.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0You did well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Pat is senior VP of business products for Intel, and has worked for them now how many years?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Twenty-seven years.\u00a0 So I started when I was 12 years old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, already this week we found out that he actually went to work not at 12 but at 18.\u00a0 He graduated from high school and the equivalent of junior college at the age of 18, went to work for Intel, married his wife Linda three years later, four children, and a self-professed workaholic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Now, as you write about designing one of these chips, okay, you talk about a team of people that you described would work 26 hours a day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, as we'd conduct these projects, these projects are three, four years in length, and as you come to the finish of it, they just get more and more intense and, literally, you're working around the clock to get the chip done.\u00a0 You're sort of racing to get it into fabrication, and you work 20 hours maybe consecutively, go home, rest, shower, come back, work the next 20 hours.\u00a0 You're just so intense because you want to get this project done.\u00a0 That's been your absolute passion and focus for the last four years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Does somebody who works that many hours hit a wall?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Some do, you know, where they just \u2013 I remember, one guy came into my office, he couldn't form an intelligent sentence anymore.\u00a0 I said, \"Okay, it's time for you to go home.\u00a0 Don't come back for a few days.\u00a0 We'll take care of it.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0But you're a four-hours-sleep-per-night guy, is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Four or five hours during the week, and I catch up a little bit on weekends.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And you're not taking Red Bolt three times a day to keep going, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0I probably drink too much caffeine \u2013 coffee.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0What is it inside you that drives you like that do you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, I think part of it's a godly passion; I think part of it is a focus on wanting to accomplish certain things in technology and, certainly, I'd say, at the ultimate and I think, for me, as an individual, as I became a Christian, you know, realizing I was designed by God to do certain things and do them to the absolute best and most complete manner possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Now, Pat, there would be those who just heard you make a statement saying, \"Now, wait a second.\u00a0 A godly passion?\u00a0 You're going to pawn this off on God that you work 20 hours in a row on a project?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, I think God gives us certain giftedness and ultimately we're fulfilling what He put into us as we go work, and when we're passionate about things, whether it's passion about a project, passionate about our spouse, passionate about a church activity, we're supposed to do it all out to the greatest extent to the skills that God has built into us from our very foundation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And how did you negotiate with your life, Linda, as you're working 20 hours a day?\u00a0 I mean, there had to be some give and take because, like a farmer, there is a season where you have to go out in the fields, and it's sunup to sundown or maybe even beyond.\u00a0 And undoubtedly you had those conversations with Linda where there was some agreement on how you're going to be spending your time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Yeah, and that's a great picture.\u00a0 You know, it is the seasons, and just like a farmer, when the sun's out, time to make hay, go for it, and do it as long as you can.\u00a0 And then there has to be those seasons where you back off and say, \"Okay, the chip's done now.\u00a0 We have to take a break.\u00a0 We have to have time together.\u00a0 We have to balance those periods of time.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So you really do work it out with an understanding that this isn't how life is going to be, and I'm sure there are folks in your corporate environment who, if you wanted it to be that way all the time, they'd make that happen for you, wouldn't they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Absolutely, absolutely, and they're just so intent on their career that that becomes their singular driving passion.\u00a0 But, you know, worklife effectiveness \u2013 it's all about keeping these things in balance, because we do need those times to rest, to restore family, to spend time on those other priorities of life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Have you always had a perspective of work that these things needed to be in balance, or did you come to a point where you said, \"If they're not in balance, I'm in trouble?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0No, they needed to be chiseled into me, over time, and I think a lot of the values and lessons that you learn and, certainly, Linda has been a huge piece of challenging me at different times \u2013 \"No, you're not coming home consistently, you're not in balance right now.\u00a0 We do need vacations,\" and learning those different tools that have become foundations for my life today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Okay, Pat, you had a promotion every year for 15 years, the first 15 years you worked at Intel.\u00a0 At 32 you were the youngest vice president ever named in the history of the organization.\u00a0 What advice would you have for a wife who is married to the man on the fast track?\u00a0 He's a driven businessman, he likes what he does, he's good at what he does.\u00a0 What would you say to her?\u00a0 In other words, what has Linda done best in your life to get your attention over the years?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0One is obviously be a partner with them, don't just let it be their career.\u00a0 Participate with them.\u00a0 Ask how is it going?\u00a0 What's going well?\u00a0 And dig to that next level of feeling and motion as well.\u00a0 Make it your career as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Also be there for the times where it doesn't go well, because even in 15 years of straight promotions there were times when I hit potholes along the way, and it's at those times where the greatest learning and depth of relationship can occur.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And also be ready to challenge.\u00a0 You know, they will, I did, everyone does \u2013 will fall out of balance.\u00a0 We lose priorities along the way and be ready to say no.\u00a0 We need vacation.\u00a0 No.\u00a0 You've done this constantly for the last year.\u00a0 It's time for us to take a break together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0So you're saying speak the truth in love, and you may have to speak the truth with tears to get his attention.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0And sometimes you may have to speak in a higher volume as well.\u00a0 This isn't an easy \u2013 it's a very challenging period of life \u2013 kids, work, school \u2013 all these things are just clamoring for his attention, and you have to say \"No, these are the priorities \u2013 God, family, work.\"\u00a0 That is the godly structure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And I would add to that list you just gave, and appeal to wives not to resent their husband's job.\u00a0 Just reflecting back on the job my own wife has done in terms of loving me in the midst of a career, certainly not like yours, Pat, but \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0You've done okay for yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0In building a ministry \u2013 well, I haven't built any chips, but hopefully we have built some families here at FamilyLife, but the ministry extracts a price, and people don't see it.\u00a0 They don't see it when you go home, the phone calls need to be made, the people that need to be visited, but a wife does.\u00a0 And the thing that I never, ever felt was that Barbara every resented that work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And a wife might say, \"Well, how could she resent a ministry to building marriages and family?\"\u00a0 Well, I'm going to tell you something \u2013 very easily.\u00a0 If it's having a negative impact from time to time on your family, it's at those points where I go back to your \u2013 one of your pieces of advice to women \u2013 be a partner with him.\u00a0 Don't be a nagging wife who is angry and embittered about a job that's extracting a price from your husband.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0I always go back to the Genesis, \"Leave, cleave, and weave your lives together.\"\u00a0 It's not his career.\u00a0 It's your family's career and sometimes when he's been knocked off the truck, comes home bruised and battered, there's no time that he's more ready to hear, be supported, and be partnered than at those very toughest moments.\u00a0 And if you're bitter about it, you've lost every opportunity to meet him at his greatest and deepest need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So what should a wife do if the plan for the family vacation that's been all settled and everybody's agreed to just happens to come at the same time as the PC Expo in New York City with the new rollout, huh?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, I talk about that story a little bit where I made a decision to keep a family vacation commitment, and it was a tough decision.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Tell us the circumstances around which that happened.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0There was an important project launch going to occur, it came out of my group.\u00a0 I was supposed to be the executive announcing the product.\u00a0 It ended up that the time that the product was ready, the national announcement window occurred on top of a vacation plan, and I told Andy Grove that I was going to keep my commitment to the family vacation, and I was going to have one of my team members do the product announcement, and he said \"No, you will do the product announcement.\"\u00a0 And I said, \"No, I made a commitment to my family, and I'm going to keep it.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Now, you're really talking to the CEO here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0The president, the CEO, \"Time\" magazine \"Man of the Year,\" yeah, this is \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You're standing toe-to-toe with him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Yeah, and he said, \"No, you're going to do this,\" and I said, \"No, I'm going to keep my family commitment.\"\u00a0 And I did, and he was upset.\u00a0 The product launch didn't go particularly well, which added fuel to the fire, and I was on the blackest of blacklists.\u00a0 But those are the times where your real character is formed, tested, and really demonstrated.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And ultimately I weathered that storm.\u00a0 It was not a fun storm, by any means at all, but I kept my commitment, and that spoke volumes to my family as well as to my co-workers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm guessing you didn't have a real great vacation, though.\u00a0 You had to stay halfway connected to find out what was going on, and hearing it wasn't going well, and \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0I was challenged to be disconnected in that particular vacation, indeed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0It's not a big day at the water park if Dad's learning on his cell phone that the \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0I was almost afraid to connect and understand or read the papers.\u00a0 I tried to stay a little bit away from it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I have one more question about that \u2013 what would you have done if Andy would have said, \"Either go or you're out of here.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0I would have kept the same commitment.\u00a0 I mean, that decision was made before I said the first no.\u00a0 That was the priority.\u00a0 And ultimately, I think, we, as employees, have to build this bank account where our workplaces look at this huge valuable, they understand our character, our ethics, we're absolutely the best in everything that we do so that when we do make those tough calls, and, you know, hey, if it wasn't a big vacation, I would have said, \"Oh, sure, change it.\"\u00a0 You know, if I could have flexibly done it.\u00a0 It's not just a matter of, \"Oh, I made this commitment, I've got to go do it.\u00a0 I think we have to be willing in this whole view of balance to make trade-offs like this, but this was an important one.\u00a0 It had a lot plans, a lot of commitments around it, and I said, \"No, that's the priority of our family right now, and they take higher priority than work.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, at the end of it, we came through okay, but it was a pretty difficult six months.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0There are a lot of dads who talk about wanting to be there for their kids games or for the school plays or for this or for that \u2013 your job enables you to do that sometime but not all the time.\u00a0 That's just part of what goes with the territory.\u00a0 Have you ever thought, \"I need a job that will let me be there for all the games, and if this isn't it, I should get a different one.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, I've certainly gone through those periods of time of struggle, make decisions with regard to independent assignments and so on as I go and make those decisions.\u00a0 I certainly do everything possible to be there for the games.\u00a0 Sometimes I'll fly home just to attend a game and fly out that night yet just so I could be there.\u00a0 So I got to great lengths to make it happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But, yeah, all of us go through those struggles, and that's part of the challenge.\u00a0 You know, this isn't an end point, this is a journey, and in the journey you make those decisions every day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You know, Pat, what I have appreciated about not only what you've said here but what you wrote about in your book, \"Balancing Your Family Faith and Work,\" is all of these principles that you espouse ultimately have become convictions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, you know, there are a lot of people who write mission statements, who write plans, who write goals, but they don't live by them.\u00a0 They don't make their choices and decisions by them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But as you illustrated in going toe-to-toe with the CEO and president of Intel around the family vacation, you know what your convictions are, and you know where you're headed, and even though you occasionally, undoubtedly, make a mistake or two and bend some of those perhaps too much, you continually make decisions around your life, around these goals, these vision statements, these plans and dreams of yours, and that's how you ultimately build a successful life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Yeah, I think it's, you know, as you see in Scripture, you see the great men of Scripture, Daniel is one of my favorites.\u00a0 He was the advisor.\u00a0 Think of him as the prime minister to three generations of leadership and just, over his life, you see this conviction of his personality, of his priorities, and what he did.\u00a0 I think all of us should look at those as \u2013 those are the role models that, over each generation in my life, I've gotten my giving under control, and now that is just part of my life.\u00a0 I've gotten my time under control that's part of my life.\u00a0 I know how I'm ministering through my workplace or my family.\u00a0 And each one of those just building up this legacy of a lifetime of commitment to living your goals, your priorities, and becoming more and more like Christ would want you to be as you approach the finish line.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Have you had situations where guys at Intel who know about your faith have come and shut the door and say, \"I need to talk about something that's not work-related.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Oh, absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And are you comfortable in that environment with the door shut not talking about Intel, sharing your faith and even praying with somebody to come to faith?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0My simple guideline I have for that is when somebody wants to be at the personal level, I got to the personal level with them, whatever they want to talk to \u2013 faith, or any other subject.\u00a0 If they choose to stay at the professional level, I stay at the professional level and, particularly, given the role I have in the workplace.\u00a0 I don't think it's appropriate for me to be challenging them in that regard, but if they ask about my faith, the door is wide open, go for it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0In fact, you have, as one of your goals \u2013 and I like this \u2013 assist in bringing to Christ or to a much greater degree of Christian maturity over 100 people.\u00a0 And later on in the book, you actually amend that statement, or you talk about how mentally you were thinking about amending that statement not to make it 100 people but to make it 10.\u00a0 Now, why did you move from a broader number of wanting 100 to come to faith in Christ and growth to maturity to a smaller number of just 10?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, I guess, just as I've been growing and maturing myself, you touch a lot of people and how many people have you touched, Dennis?\u00a0 Who knows how many millions have been touched in some way, and you might have had some little seed that you've touched in their life and along the journey as you go, many of those occur.\u00a0 But how many have you really touched, like Christ could say about His disciples \u2013 that you've invested in, you know deeply, personally, that those are the people that you'd go to the cross for, and they know you would do likewise, and that's much more the thought of the 10.\u00a0 You know, those who I would have invested in so heavily, so significantly, that you'd almost say they're disciples at that level of intimacy and maturity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0How many of those 10 are in place right now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0I could point to three today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And you're how old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Forty-five.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There's time.\u00a0 I really applaud the objective, though, seriously, because as I read that goal, and I thought about it, I thought what if every Christian, every follower of Christ, had that as a goal?\u00a0 It is the heart of the Great Commission.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Jesus said to go and to teach, and the command of that passage in Matthew 28:19-20, is that we make disciples.\u00a0 We're teaching the things that Christ taught in making disciples.\u00a0 The command to go was actually a statement \"As you are going, teach those,\" and it's as a way of life we should be making disciples along the way, and I think you model that in a great way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Okay, what's God doing here?\u00a0 How can I join Him in that?\u00a0 Where's the opportunity that He's given me in this circumstance and this day?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, in case our listeners ever wonder if there's a business man or woman in a high place in corporate America [Intel theme] here's a good illustration right here, and you need to know that in his list of goals, is president of Intel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, his boss knows that, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, I tell you what, if you become president, will you come back on FamilyLife Today and let us talk about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPat:\u00a0Well, I'll see if I can fit it into my priorities.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0We've got copies of the book that Pat has written in our FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 The book is called \"Balancing Your Family, Faith, and Work,\" and that's a tricky balance, as you've heard us say today, but it can be done, and it helps to have a little counsel from somebody who has been doing it for years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Go to our website, FamilyLife.com, and if you'd like more information on this book, you'll see a red button in the middle of the page that says \"Go\" on it, and if you click that button, it will take you to the area of the site where you can find out more about Pat's book.\u00a0 You could also order it online, if you'd like, and you'll find out about other resources that are available from us here at FamilyLife.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0In fact, you and your wife, Barbara, wrote a book a few years ago called \"Pressure Proof Your Marriage,\" that helps folks deal with the pace of life and with establishing priorities and making marriage the priority that it ought to be and keeping the work assignment in the proper perspective with all of that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Some of our listeners may want to get a copy of your book as well.\u00a0 In fact, any of our listeners who would like both books, we'll send along at no additional cost the CD that features our interaction this week with Pat Gelsinger.\u00a0 You can listen to that again or you can pass it along to someone who would benefit from listening to that CD.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Get all the details on our website at FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 Again, click the red button in the middle of the screen that says \"Go,\" and that will get you the information you need on how you can request these resources.\u00a0 Or call us at 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That's 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY, and someone on our team will let you know how you can get these resources sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You know, you think of February as the month of romance, and yet once Valentine's Day is gone, we kind of forget romance.\u00a0 We let it slip and slide again.\u00a0 During the month of February, we're making available a thank you gift to any of our listeners who are able to help support the ministry of FamilyLife Today with a donation of any amount.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Our ministry is listener-supported, which means that folks like you make donations so that we can be on the air in this city and in other cities all across the country, and, in fact, without those donations, we would not be able to continue the ministry of FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0More than 60 percent of the revenue we need to continue this ministry comes from folks like you making donations to our ministry.\u00a0 And this month when you make a donation of any amount, we'd love to send you a special thank you gift.\u00a0 It's a CD that has two messages on it.\u00a0 One from C.J. Mahaney and the other from his wife, Carolyn.\u00a0 Together, they've written a book called \"Sex, Romance, and the Glory of God,\" and these two messages provide romance basics for husbands and for wives.\u00a0 And the CD is our thank you gift to you this month when you make a donation of any amount to FamilyLife Today, and you request a copy of the CD.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You can go to our website, FamilyLife.com, and there's a form on the website you can fill out to make a donation.\u00a0 There's a keycode box at the end of that form, and if you type the word \"Love\" in there, we'll make sure to send this CD out to you.\u00a0 Or you can call 1-800-FLTODAY, that's 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY, make a donation over the phone, and be sure to mention that you'd like this month's CD on love and romance, and we'll be happy to send it out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Again, it's our way of saying thanks for your partnership with us and your financial support of the ministry of FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Well, tomorrow Pat Gelsinger is going to be back with us, and we're going to hear a little bit about his personal mission statement and about some of his life goals.\u00a0 I hope you can be with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We'll see you next time for another edition of FamilyLife Today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0FamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas, a ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t________________________________________________________________\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts for you. 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