{"id":301201,"date":"2006-09-26T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-09-26T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/what-is-real-success\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:42:27","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:42:27","slug":"what-is-real-success","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-is-real-success\/","title":{"rendered":"What is Real Success?"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tim Kimmel defines real success according to the Scriptures.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2006-09-26.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"","filesize_raw":"","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2850],"tags":[2209],"podcast_series":[7475],"cwp_profile":[3058],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-301201","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-character-development","tag-parenting","podcast_series-raising-kids-for-true-greatness","cwp_profile-tim-kimmel","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/301201\/what-is-real-success","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/301201\/what-is-real-success","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"CQEx2XTfsc\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-is-real-success\/\">What is Real Success?<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-is-real-success\/embed\/#?secret=CQEx2XTfsc\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;What is Real Success?&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"CQEx2XTfsc\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Scriptures.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2006-09-26.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\u00ad\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Given the choice, as a parent, would you rather that your children were successful or truly great?\u00a0 Here is Dr. Tim Kimmel to help you think that through.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0True greatness is a passionate love for Jesus Christ that shows itself in an unquenchable love and concern for others.\u00a0 But let me tell you this -- that when you aim your kids at true greatness, all that success stuff that most parents want -- most of the time God throws that in for free.\u00a0 That just becomes more of a foregone conclusion of a life well lived, a life lived effectively, extraordinarily.\u00a0 But the difference is they didn't need any of that stuff to feel complete, and now they're able to actually enjoy it and steward it properly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0This is FamilyLife Today for Tuesday, September 26th.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 As we raise our children, it's important to know what the first things are and make sure we get first things first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition.\u00a0 Knowing that \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I've been reading a book here recently \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You just interrupted me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I did.\u00a0 Did you have something \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0No, no, by all means, it's your program.\u00a0 Please, Mr. Rainey, go ahead.\u00a0 All I was going to say is that knowing we were going to have Tim Kimmel on the program this week, I brought in five pages' worth of questions that I wanted to ask him and, so far, we've gotten to two of them.\u00a0 So we could be here a while.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0It does feel like a slow-pitch softball.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0T-ball \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Toss it up, and he whacks it out of the park.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0What have you been reading?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I've been reading -- well, I was wondering why they'd call anybody \"Merriam Webster\" -- Webster's Collegiate Dictionary.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Oh, just, in your spare time?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0It's better than reading the phone book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0The 10th edition, that's exactly right, and you guys saw me.\u00a0 I opened it up \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Directly to the page that I wanted to go to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, bully for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I wanted to open \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm sorry, you interrupted me, I got thrown off my rhythm.\u00a0 But, please, go ahead.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You know what, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0It's your program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I change everything I'm saying here, go back and introduce the broadcast the way you wanted to, and I'll save this for later.\u00a0 I'm getting in the way of \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I want to hear about what you \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0What you wanted to -- what you wanted to do, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0The Merriam Webster \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I'm paying for it too much and the cost is way too high.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Please, please, tell us what you opened the dictionary to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, the word is \"great.\"\u00a0 Now, if you think about it, what's the definition of \"great?\"\u00a0 Tim?\u00a0 Tim Kimmel joins us on FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Tim, you've written a book about this.\u00a0 What's the definition of \"great?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0As far as great kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Just give me the definition, because I'm afraid I won't get the microphone back if \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0No, no, no, no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 if you answer on \"great kids.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0You know what?\u00a0 Something that's better than good, better than successful, something that stands out on its own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I\u2019m not going to even try.\u00a0 I want to know what Merriam said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0I want to hear what Merriam had to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0It is \"huge, notably large in size, remarkable in magnitude, degree, or effectiveness.\"\u00a0 Now, when you think about that, as you think about living a great life, living a huge life \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0A remarkable life \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 an effective life.\u00a0 The question is, what is the measurement of effectiveness?\u00a0 Or what is the measurement of huge?\u00a0 Tim, earlier, we were talking together, and as you were talking, I was thinking, you know, Hebrews 11 gives a list of people who lived and walked by faith, and the description in there doesn't use the word \"great,\" but it said these were men of whom the world \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0\u2026 was not worthy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0They lived \"great\" lives, and that's what you've written about in your book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0I refer to that passage in this book because that's a great example -- that their parents may not have gotten them into the best schools, and they didn't have a great SAT, but, boy, they turned the world upside down by the reasons why they were living their life and who they were living their life for.\u00a0 And, see, because of the way the world programs us to measure our effectiveness as parents, we fall into that trap of thinking if we don't have these really beautiful kids that are very smart and well set up academically, they're going to get these big jobs that are well known, and they really wield a lot of influence out there, then we have failed.\u00a0 We're stuck with these average kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But I tell the story in this book, \"Raising Kids for True Greatness,\" of one couple, and they were foreigners in a city that was very hostile to them, and they raised a kid, and they've tried to do their best to pour God's heart into him.\u00a0 He was kind of taken on by some wealthy citizens and set up for Ivy League school and all that stuff, but he had a temper problem.\u00a0 He got in trouble with the law, he fled, and he's on the lam.\u00a0 And you're thinking, \"What a waste.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I tell another couple who was infertile, they prayed like mad to conceive.\u00a0 They finally got this kid, they poured their heart and their love into him.\u00a0 He became this kind of a critic of public policy and vented a lot of his frustration on the powers that be so much so that he was in prison and ultimately executed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I tell of another couple who were in love.\u00a0 They were going to get -- they were engaged to be married and then she got pregnant but not by him, and he had to make that hard decision -- should I marry her or not, and there was a lot of public scorn.\u00a0 And you think, well, talk about three train wrecks in a row, and how in the world can you come out with great people out of this?\u00a0 But the first couple raised Moses.\u00a0 The second couple raised John the Baptist.\u00a0 The third couple raised the Lord Jesus.\u00a0 And so greatness is not measured in the Bible the way we measure it.\u00a0 And because we get off course here, we can spend a lot of great time, valuable time, crucial time, spinning our wheels, aiming our kids at nothing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I don't know who said it, but someone said man measures true greatness by putting a tape measure around a person's head.\u00a0 God measures greatness by putting a tape measure around our hearts.\u00a0 What He wants is, He wants us, first of all, to give our hearts to Him so that we're about living great lives.\u00a0 But then He wants to turn that infectious love into a generational relay race where we raise a generation who have hearts that are large, huge, effective for Jesus Christ.\u00a0 We raise a generation of children who are great.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You talk about not unconditional love, but you talk about uncorrupted love as you talk about what parents need to be modeling and giving for their children.\u00a0 What do you mean by \"uncorrupted love?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Well, see, I like to define love this way -- it's a commitment of my will to your needs and best interests regardless of the cost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Say that again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Love is a commitment of my will to your needs and best interests regardless of the cost.\u00a0 It is not in the needs and best interests of our children to aim them at empty success -- things that only reward them here on earth and cause them to live their lives basically for their own self interest.\u00a0 If we are people of faith, we must be raising our kids to embrace a holy, magnificent, awesome God and let Him put His love and passion and grace through them and spill over in everything they do.\u00a0 They can still go out and become doctors, lawyers, and Indian chiefs.\u00a0 They can still be professional athletes and gain great respect and notoriety in the world sense, but they didn't set out to gain any of that.\u00a0 That just happens to be what they were putting -- gifted on earth to do.\u00a0 But that's not what they lived their life for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So you're not saying that greatness means you can't have success, you're just saying that you don't aim for success.\u00a0 You aim for greatness, and you take what God blesses you with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Well, let me tell you one of the punch lines of the book now -- instead of waiting until later.\u00a0 You know, I said that true greatness is a passionate love for Jesus Christ that shows itself in an unquenchable love and concern for others.\u00a0 We have not yet described the four qualities that you build into your kids, but we'll do that in a few moments.\u00a0 But let me tell you this -- that when you aim your kids at true greatness, all that success stuff that most parents want -- wealth, beauty, power, fame -- most of the time God throws that in for free.\u00a0 That just becomes more of a foregone conclusion of a life well lived, a life lived effectively, extraordinarily.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But the difference is, they didn't need any of that stuff to feel complete, and now they're able to actually enjoy it and steward it properly.\u00a0 But the problem is, when I live my life for wealth then I'm never satisfied.\u00a0 When I live my life for beauty, my beauty starts to fade or my wife starts to fade, we're in trouble.\u00a0 When I live my life \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0By the way, I've noticed that happening with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0With you -- fortunately, Darcy's -- her beauty is staying stronger than ever, but her eyes are failing, that's good.\u00a0 And so \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Don't you appreciate Bob pointing that out about you, Tim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Thanks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I thought I'd pass that along.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Once again, you know, it's friends like these -- can I tell you a story about a professional athlete that I ran across that I thought just so illustrated this.\u00a0 Darcy and I were on a plane, and we were riding in the nice seats in the front of the plane flying from Dallas to Tampa.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Cashing in some frequent flyer miles, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Absolutely.\u00a0 I travel a lot, so I get to turn those things into a comfortable seat every once in a while.\u00a0 Halfway through the flight, a man stood up, he turns around and cases the place.\u00a0 Looked around and approached what he thought was the most beautiful girl in the front of the plane, which was Darcy, and she was.\u00a0 Got down on one knee beside her so his face was right next to her ear, and he whispered in her ear, \"Hey, beautiful lady, do you know who I am?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0This is somebody talking to your wife?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0To my wife on a plane.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0With you sitting next to her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0I'm sitting right next to her.\u00a0 And she turned around and looked, and she said, \"I'm sorry, I don't recognize you.\"\u00a0 And his countenance fell, he said, \"I'm the great Bobby Hayes.\"\u00a0 And then she turned to me, and I looked over, I said, \"Oh, Darcy, this guy was one of the greatest wide receivers for Dallas Cowboy history.\u00a0 He was there when we were in grad school.\u00a0 We saw him play.\"\u00a0 And he was so glad to be recognized.\u00a0 He stood up, and he shook both of our hands, and then he went on to tell his resume.\u00a0 You know, he set the world record in the relay at the Tokyo Olympics in 1964, and he tied the world record in the 100, and then he reached in his blazer pocket, and he took out his gold medal from the Olympics in 1964.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0He was carrying it with him?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0Carrying it with him.\u00a0 He put it right in front of Darcy's face, and she held it in her hands, and she studied it some, and then she looked up this faded ribbon, I mean, it was just all faded from the years, into this man's poor bloodshot eyes, and this is Bobby Hayes.\u00a0 He said, \"I'm Bobby \"The Bullet\" Hayes, I'm the fastest man in the world.\u00a0 Well, this fastest man in the world looked like he was going to need a walker and a good, stiff belt of whiskey to hit on a pretty girl.\u00a0 Bobby \"The Bullet\" Hayes looked more like a spent casing.\u00a0 I mean, the reason I did not just take this guy and clean -- I pitied him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Anyway, she looked up this ribbon at this man's bloodshot eyes and said what I think you're supposed -- \"Boy, that's a beautiful medal.\u00a0 I'm glad we got to meet you, Bobby, and see your medal.\"\u00a0 And then when he was satisfied that we recognized who he was, he went to the curtain, and we could hear, very clearly, him go to the first people in the front of the coach section -- \"Do you know who I am?\"\u00a0 And then he went on, and he introduced himself all the way down to the coach section.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Here is a man who had all the accolades of success.\u00a0 I remember when I was in grad school.\u00a0 I mean, you'd go into the restaurants and the bars in Dallas, there's this poster, and kids had it in their room.\u00a0 This is what you wanted your son to grow up to be, like Bobby Hayes, and now look at him.\u00a0 He was just falling apart, and he had to live on the accolades of something that happened decades earlier.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I have a friend named Dan Bowlen [sp], who lives down in Texas, and he'd gone out to Texas A&amp;M to run a 10K race.\u00a0 Now, Dan Bowlen wasn't the fastest man in the world.\u00a0 He was more like the slowest man in the world.\u00a0 He wasn't sure, but he wanted to see if he could find that guy and pace him.\u00a0 He was just there just to kind of finish the race. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And the race was staging right there behind Kyle Field, the big football stadium where the Aggies play football, and he was stretching out like you do before a 10K, but he noticed kind of a stir over by the wall, and it was these people that had started to crowd around somebody, and he thought maybe somebody had fallen or was ill, and went over to see what they were crowding around.\u00a0 It was a huge dumpster in order to look, and there in the dumpster were hundreds and hundreds of trophies and plaques from the Athletic Department.\u00a0 They were sitting there waiting for the truck to come and take them away, and apparently what they'd done is they'd gone through and needed to make room for a new generation of champions and heroes, and so they took all these things that were worked hard for and once held with pride for a photo op by a champion, and now they were waiting for a truck to take them away, and he's running the race, and the whole time he's there, he's thinking \"I wonder how many things I've worked so hard for, so many trophies and awards in my life, are waiting for eternity's dumpster to come along and crush them to powder.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, you see, when we live our life, we, the people of faith, the people of the way, the truth, and the life, go and live our lives and aim our kids at a future that is only about them, we miss the biggest opportunity to make our greatest impact as human beings by transferring to a new generation a life greater than life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0One of the greatest privileges a human being can be given is to be called \"Daddy\" or \"Mommy.\"\u00a0 And then to shape that life or, if God blesses, lives, toward the right harbor, toward the right finish line, and what you're exhorting us to do is to do that and do it well but to make sure you picked the right objective, the right goal.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And as I think about greatness, and I think about our Savior, who I think we ought to consider to be the ultimate yardstick \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0\u2026 absolutely \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 the One who is the measurement of what true greatness is all about -- Jesus Christ has had greater influence upon the planet than any person who has ever walked the face of the earth.\u00a0 But Jesus gave us two commands that had the world \"great\" in front of them.\u00a0 One is the Great Commandment, which really encompasses what you just defined as true greatness -- love God and love others.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0But, secondly, He also commanded us with the Great Commission, which is the greatest task a person can be given, and I think if parents will pull back, and they'll look at their children and take nothing more than just those two commands of Jesus Christ, which, really, there's three -- the Great Commission to go to the world with the Gospel and make disciples; but, secondly, to love God and to also love their neighbor.\u00a0 That, in itself, will help your child really achieve true greatness.\u00a0 And that's what you're about in your book.\u00a0 You're calling parents to recalibrate not according to the world but according to Scripture and to shape their children toward true greatness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0And, in the process, they subordinate all these other things that the world worships, like wealth and beauty and power and fame.\u00a0 They subordinate those to this higher calling of greatness.\u00a0 These things have their place if they happen by default.\u00a0 In other words, they just happen because it's just the way the gene pool made them look like Angelina Jolie or, you know, they just happen to have a Midas touch, or whatever.\u00a0 But that's not what they were living their life for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, by the way, this is great news for the bulk of the people listening, because most of us basically are average.\u00a0 Now, we like to think we're above average, but the bulk of us -- most people don't get to stand on the top rung at the Olympics.\u00a0 I always think, if you look at the thousands that march in, how many get the gold medals?\u00a0 Just 100, maybe less.\u00a0 But, still, it's part of the fun of just being there and participating.\u00a0 And, see, God isn't measuring it by that, anyway.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And we've got to remember that we're going to heaven someday, and we're giving an account, and He wants to reward us in heaven, and it's not going to be based on how much money we made, how good-looking we were, any of that stuff -- how well known we were.\u00a0 It was how faithful we were.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And I had to think, as you were talking about Bobby Hayes' Olympic medal or about those plaques and trophies that were in the dumpster at Texas A&amp;M, I had to think about the imperishable wreath, the crowns that will be given in eternity that will never wind up in a dumpster but instead will wind up at the feet of the Savior in honor and blessing for Him, and the ribbon won't fade on those medals like it did on Bobby Hayes'.\u00a0 And we work really hard for the stuff here that winds up in the dumpster and ignore, too often, the eternal reward that Christ has promised us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0You know what we're forgetting, too, in this whole thing, because what you just said there, Bob, reminded me of something, is we're forgetting the joy factor because, you see, when you live your life for others, and you live your -- it's a pouring out of your incredible love for God, and it just -- the way He lives through you, there's great joy in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0The joy isn't in the paycheck, the joy isn't in the notoriety.\u00a0 It's just the fact that you can be used by God in other people's lives.\u00a0 Dennis, you were talking about Jesus, you know, being the top of the line on this, and yet how much did Jesus get paid while He was here to go die on a cross?\u00a0 You know, He wasn't making much money here, and if Isaiah 53 is talking about His looks even before He was crucified.\u00a0 He wasn't necessarily much to look at; He wasn't some Brad Pitt.\u00a0 And as far as back in those days, He wasn't famous as much as He was notorious.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And as far as power goes, well, they just felt like -- because He worked in submission to all the forces out there, including His own parents at times, they just thought He was just another guy.\u00a0 But once He rose from the dead, we reset the clock, and it's now Anno Domini, the year of our Lord.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We are raising kids who have an eternal life and an eternal purpose that is going to be played out in time-space here, and we cannot miss this great opportunity.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I think if a parent is listening right now and hasn't gotten it, Tim, this probably isn't going to help, but maybe this question will help just finish nailing it.\u00a0 If your child came to you and said, \"Mommy, Daddy, how can I become a great man?\"\u00a0 \"How can I become a great woman?\"\u00a0 How would you answer him, or how would you answer her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim:\u00a0I would say, \"You need to embody four things, and they all really are encompassing the last one.\u00a0 You need to have a humble heart, a grateful heart, a general heart, and a servant's heart.\u00a0 And you do those four things; you will be extraordinary.\u00a0 There is absolutely no stopping the impact you will make.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You unpack all four of those in your book, and we want to spend time the rest of this week unpacking those as well.\u00a0 But I think you've hit on four things that really define biblical greatness.\u00a0 Again -- humility, gratefulness, generosity, and servanthood -- if somebody does embody the four of those, they are on the path for the kind of a life that God looks at and says, \"Well done, good and faithful servant.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We've got copies of your book in our FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 It's called \"Raising Kids for True Greatness,\" and I think no matter where we are, whether we're just starting in this process or whether we've got teenagers and we're on the homeward stretch, this is a book that helps us reevaluate and realign our thinking.\u00a0 In fact, I went out to dinner recently with my wife and just one of our five kids.\u00a0 It just happened to be a time when everybody else was busy, so the three of us went out for dinner, and I reviewed the four things you just talked about with my youngest son, David.\u00a0 I talked about greatness looking like a humble heart, a generous heart, a grateful heart, and a servant's heart because that's what I want him to embody as he grows into manhood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I want to encourage our listeners, get a copy of this book.\u00a0 I think it's an important book to help us make sure we're aiming at the right thing as we raise our children.\u00a0 You can go to our website, FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 You will see a red button in the middle of the screen that says \"Go,\" and if you click on that button, it will take you to a page where you can get more information about Tim Kimmel's book, \"Raising Kids for True Greatness.\"\u00a0 You can order online, if you'd like.\u00a0 In fact, we have, along with that book, another book you've written called \"Fifty Ways to Really Love Your Kids,\" and any of our listeners who want to order both of these books, we'll be happy to send along at no additional cost the two-CD series that features this week's programs on this subject.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0So, again, go to the website, FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 Click the red \"Go\" button in the middle of the screen.\u00a0 You can order online or get more information if you need to, or call us.\u00a0 The number is 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That's 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY.\u00a0 Someone on our team will answer any questions you might have about these resources, or they'll make arrangements to have the materials sent out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Let me ask you to do us a favor, if you would, when you get in touch with us here at FamilyLife.\u00a0 I want to ask you to consider making a donation, a financial contribution, to help with the ministry of FamilyLife Today.\u00a0 We're listener-supported.\u00a0 Folks who listening to this program are the ones who call or go online or write to us to make a donation, and they're the folks who help keep this program on the air in this city and in cities all across the country.\u00a0 You need to know that more than 60 percent of the annual revenue that we need in order to continue the operation of 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