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\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat would your life be \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf all through August you and yours \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tturned off the family TV?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, boys, we think that \u2013 boys, listen to your mother and me.\u00a0 We want the TV off during \u2013 no!\u00a0 No TV during August.\u00a0 June, I can't get these boys to obey.\u00a0 I think Eddie Haskell is behind this.\u00a0 Boys, turn off the TV.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou'll find there's plenty of stuff to do,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe're sure you'll all agree,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt's swell, it's keen, you'll have such fun\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you turn off your TV.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us on the Fat Tuesday edition of our program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Fat Tuesday?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0The Fat TV Tuesday \u2013 I should have clarified that.\u00a0 You know how right before Wednesday, Ash Wednesday, they have \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Oh, I get it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0They have Fat Tuesday, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Yeah, exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And that's the day that \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And because we're fasting from television \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, because you're calling people to fast.\u00a0 I don't know that I've signed on for this completely yet, you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Of course, you have, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0But I don't wanna!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0What Bob's talking about is each year in the month of August, we call our listeners to give up TV for a month, and you'll get over it, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'll give up cutting the grass, how's that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing hysterically]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0If I trade it out with that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There's two generations, you know, Bob?\u00a0 There's an older generation that kind of goes back to when TV started, and there's a younger generation that, well, TV is just a smaller part of what they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0In fact, I was curious as to how younger listeners would take to this idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0When you say \"younger listeners,\" who are you referring to, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm talking about young families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Twelve-year-olds?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0No, no, no, no, no.\u00a0 I'm talking about those who are in their 20s, in their early 30s, maybe they're single, maybe they're raising a family.\u00a0 I'm not sure exactly \u2013 well, I'll tell you who is the prototype for this.\u00a0 We have a friend, Hugh Duncan, who produces a podcast called \"New Clarity,\" and Hugh is \u2013 he's a young dad.\u00a0 He and his wife, Renee, have two little children, and we went to Hugh \u2013 he works in media.\u00a0 And so I was talking to him.\u00a0 I said, \"Do you think you and your family would participate in this idea of a month-long TV fast?\"\u00a0 And he said, \"Well, let me think about that, and I'll get back with you.\"\u00a0 And he actually got back with me on tape, and so I thought our listeners ought to hear.\u00a0 This is Hugh kind of ruminating on whether he and his family can do a month-long TV fast.\u00a0 And before we hear it, you wanted to let the older listeners know \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I want to just encourage all of you listeners who are 35 and older, and there are a few hundred thousand of you who are listening right now \u2013 I just wanted to encourage you \u2013 hang in there on this.\u00a0 You may kind of go, \"Now, what's his point?\"\u00a0 Hang with it all the way to the end.\u00a0 Let's listen to Hugh Duncan.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0They have to understand that there is a fast brain and a slow brain.\u00a0 They have to understand that there is a [tape speeds up and slows down] \u2013 there is a fast brain and slow brain.\u00a0 That's what Dr. Robert Reiher says.\u00a0 I'm using some software to edit an interview that someone did with Robert Reiher about his book, \"Kidnapped \u2013 How Irresponsible Marketers are Stealing the Minds of Your Children.\"\u00a0 [distorted tape sounds].\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0The fast brain is the brain that responds automatically to compelling media and entertainment that is designed specifically to hook it [distorted tape sounds].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0That's what I'm trying to do \u2013 edit this interview into something that will hook radio listeners and give them something exciting to listen to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0The slow brain is the part of the brain that responds to relationships and to thinking and to reading and to the higher activities of human behavior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Well, I'm trying to do that, too \u2013 use this interview to help parents in their relationship with their children, help them to think rationally and deeply about media and TV and their kids' viewing habits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0[distorted] human behavior.\u00a0 So don't let your kids be immersed in fast-brain activities.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0After editing like this all day, staring at two computer screens for eight hours, which brain am I using?\u00a0 Do I even have a brain left?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0What's disempowering certainly is spending too much time with machines and what's empowering is to, you know, spend more time with family and friends and interacting in social ways.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0This is Dr. Daniel Acuff, co-author of the book, \"Kidnapped,\" who is constantly talking about the need to unplug from machines, and it's really ironic that I'm sitting here editing these authors talking about the need to unplug while I sit in front of two computers.\u00a0 One of them has the editing software, the other feeds me a constant stream of e-mail and blog posts, and when I break from editing and open an e-mail, I instinctively start playing my iPod.\u00a0 This is the world in which my wife and I are raising two daughters, and this interview is part of an important discussion on how media affects children.\u00a0 It's something my wife and I grapple with all the time.\u00a0 When we brought our first little bundle of joy home six years ago, we didn't throw out the TV or the rest of our gadgets, and knowing what's appropriate has been a constant source of discussion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0In the book \"Kidnapped,\" we set out a week in the life of an 8-12-year-old and talk about what's empowering and what's disempowering.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0That gets me thinking.\u00a0 How is media used in my house in a typical day?\u00a0 How do the thoughts of these authors relate to my family?\u00a0 Let's back up a little bit.\u00a0 [sound of tape being rewound.]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0[Alarm clock] At one point, I would have grabbed for coffee at this time of the morning, but I'm fasting.\u00a0 Most people don't have any trouble with this but, for me, caffeine can become like an idol, and I've needed to give it up.\u00a0 But in order to get my mind going, I turn on my iPod and in order to get my body going, I've decided to take a walk.\u00a0 Basically, I've tried to replace caffeine with exercise and media.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0My three-year-old is soon awake, and one of the first things she says is \u2013 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Can I turn on a DVD?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0We try to steer her toward a more wholesome pursuit first thing in the morning like going to the bathroom.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0On the way to work, the iPod is in shuffle mode, and a song by my daughter pops up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0[singing]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0When I got the iPod one of the first things my daughter wanted to know did I have any songs of her singing.\u00a0 She was happy to find out that I had this one of her when she was a toddler, that she had become a media producer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I arrive at work to stare at my two computers and start editing Daniel Acuff.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0If I'm spending more time with machines, I'm spending less time with family, and then I just don't grow the same way and as healthy in that way that I would ordinarily.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0This program is supposed to encourage people to fast from TV in the month of August, and I think I could give up TV pretty easily.\u00a0 Like a lot of people, I've been spending more time with new types of media than with TV.\u00a0 Statistics show that viewership is down.\u00a0 Now, if I had to give up computers and the accompanying gadgets, that would be hard.\u00a0 And it's also why I'm a little defensive about this interview.\u00a0 The authors are supposed to be talking about turning off the TV, but they keep lumping all media together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0We call it \"E-time\" or \"T-time\" \u2013 E-time is enriching time, T-time is toxic tech time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Meanwhile, while I'm editing, back at home my three-year-old is watching a video we checked out at the library.\u00a0 It's actually way beneath her, but she still likes watching it.\u00a0 It's kind of one of those brainy baby or Baby Einstein type videos that show lots of repetitive shapes and colors to help stimulate a baby's brain.\u00a0 A lot of people advocated this type of thing when my first daughter was born, the idea that if you play classical music while they're still in the womb and then introduce them to DVDs of swirling patterns and colors, your child is more likely to grow up to be a math genius or something.\u00a0 Robert Reiher says there is no scientific data to support this idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0The parents want to think it does so they can jumpstart children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0I think parents to feel this pressure to stimulate their kids' brains and give them a competitive advantage in life, but at the same time, parents also just want a chance to get something done without having a toddler wrapped around their legs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0While I keep editing, my daughter back at home has to turn off the TV.\u00a0 She's reached her limit for the day.\u00a0 Over the summer, my wife and I realized we needed some kind of limit on how much the girls can watch every day, and we chose one hour.\u00a0 I'm not sure why, it just seemed like common sense, and I was excited to find out the brain researchers said we got it right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0Below the age of seven, if they're just starting school, for example, maybe an hour, half hour a day, if they had any homework, of course, kindergarten and first grade, second grade, there's not much homework but a little bit of homework \u2013 half an hour a day, maybe, but on the weekends an hour, hour and a half at the most in front of any screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0In front of any screen.\u00a0 That brings up something I haven't figured out about our one-hour-a-day rule.\u00a0 Does it include the computer?\u00a0 Once my three-year-old has consumed her DVD ration for the day, she starts asking to play CD-ROMS, and I tend to let her.\u00a0 It seems to me like playing computer games is a great learning experience, especially in our high-tech world.\u00a0 She'll be using computers all her life, right?\u00a0 She better start learning now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0And there's a lot of illusion in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Ugggghhh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0Parents are under the illusion that because this is a technological age, they want their kids jumpstarted, and they believe that they should be doing that as early as a child can put his hands on a computer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0You see, we make a distinction between hot and cold mediums.\u00a0 A hot medium is anything electronic like television, video games, that is interactively electronic, but cold mediums or cool mediums are reading and just playing and being \u2013 having time and space to think and create.\u00a0 So it's really robbing the child of that time that they need to have free play and free association.\u00a0 That's when thinking can occur.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Back at home my girls are involved in what these authors call \"free play.\" They are using their imaginations, I think.\u00a0 They're acting out a movie.\u00a0 They basically have the script memorized, and they're quoting it using different rooms of the house to represent different sets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Whatcha doin, hibernatin'?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0So does their free play count as cold non-media time that's all based on a movie?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Flower is [inaudible].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Meanwhile, back in front of the editing computer \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0I'm 63 years old, so when I was young, we had a black-and-white TV when I was nine.\u00a0 That was it.\u00a0 So what I did to entertain myself was get on my bike, I lived in the country on a cotton farm, and I'd ride around the country and go out to the city dump, you know, and if it was a lucky day, I'd find a dead sheep.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0What?\u00a0 He played at the city dump?\u00a0 Did I hear that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0[rewinds the tape] \u2026 ride around the country and go out to the city dump, you know, and if it was a lucky day, I'd find a dead sheep.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Are we really sure the city dump and dead sheep are an improvement over Baby Einstein videos?\u00a0 I mean, isn't the city dump dangerous for a kid?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Back at home, my wife and my six-year-old are outside listening to a cowbird.\u00a0 We recognize it because we've been studying birdcalls on CD.\u00a0 During a lot of car rides, we've put in the CD and that helps us recognize different birdsongs.\u00a0 The cowbird isn't much to look at, but we've all been amazed by the sounds it can make [cowbird sings].\u00a0 And, again, I'm not quite sure how this fits in with what I'm editing.\u00a0 These authors tend to be pretty black and white.\u00a0 You're either plugged into machines, or you're unplugged.\u00a0 What if you're learning about nature, which seems like you're unplugged, but you're listening to a CD, so you're plugged in, but you're with the family, unplugged, but you're in a car, which is a machine, and then you're going outside and applying that knowledge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0And then there's something even called \"natural intelligence,\" where it's how smart am I about nature?\u00a0 And if we're not spending as much time outdoors and playing in parks and going camping with the family, how are we going to get natural intelligence built?\u00a0 We're spending too much time with machines.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0I've gotten home by now.\u00a0 Dinner is over, and, no, we don't watch TV during dinner.\u00a0 And while I'm washing the dishes, someone puts on a song that we had downloaded off the Internet a while back.\u00a0 It's one of my daughter's favorites, and they start to dance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnnouncer:\u00a0[echo] Right about now, the funk soul brother \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0My three-year-old comes in and invites me to dance, and I say \"No, I've got to finish the dishes, and then I've got to sit in front of the computer and pay bills.\"\u00a0 And she looked so sad, which reminds me of Jesus' words.\u00a0 He said, \"To what shall I compare this generation?\u00a0 It is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to their playmates, 'We played the flute for you, and you did not dance.\u00a0 We sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.'\"\u00a0 So I let the dishes go and follow my daughter.\u00a0 They've recruited my wife, too, and pretty soon all four of us are dancing like maniacs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song \"Funk Soul Brother\"]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I think back to what Daniel Acuff said \u2013 when he was a kid, and he had a chance to play, he'd go down to the city dump, and if he was lucky, he'd find a treasure, a dead sheep.\u00a0 I think that serves as a picture of our world and our media landscape.\u00a0 The truth is, we're living in a dump.\u00a0 Our world's been marred by sin, and we see the effect of sin everywhere.\u00a0 But, at the same time, it's the work of an incredible Creator, who is coming back soon to clean up the trash and, in the meantime, He invites us to play, and He invites us to dance.\u00a0 And in the midst of all the trash, He lets us find treasures that remind us of Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We can pretend like everything is perfectly safe; that life is like a row of neatly ordered manicured lawns, but kids don't want to play there because there's no life, no passion, and no treasure.\u00a0 That's why I don't make my kids listen to stuff like this \u2026 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song \"I'm a C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n\"]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0C.S. Lewis was an atheist, but he was also a lover of stories and mythology, and the things he read as a kid put him on a path that led him to discover the ultimate storyteller.\u00a0 I hope that my kids are on the same path; that media like this \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song \"Funk Soul Brother\"]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u2026 will put them in contact with the God who created rhythm, and I think about one of the most amazing things I edited today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0About an hour and a half \u2026 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Hour?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0I use it as a distraction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Daniel Acuff was asked how much TV does he watch?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0About an hour and a half in the evening.\u00a0 I use it as amusement and distraction.\u00a0 After a day of work, I figure, okay, I deserve it now, so \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0The guy who uses words like \"toxic tech time,\" spends an hour a night watching TV?\u00a0 Well, on the other hand, I, who has been playing devil's advocate all day, never turn the TV on, because if I did, I wouldn't have time for this \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0[singing] Our father who are in heaven, hallowed be your name, the kids will come, your will be done, however it is in heaven.\u00a0 Give this day our daily bread \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Maybe trying to unplug is like trying to leave the dump.\u00a0 It's just the world we're in but, at the same time, if you're being discerning, watching TV every night is not the best choice.\u00a0 And if you're in the habit of watching TV every day like I used to be in the habit of drinking coffee, the TV Fast is probably a really good idea.\u00a0 Just like giving up coffee can let you taste other flavors, giving up TV can lead to all kinds of wonderful experiences.\u00a0 I mean, why watch TV when there are birdcalls to learn and cool songs to download and stories to read and movies to act out and children who are saying, \"Come, dance.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Give this day our daily bread and give the prosses and gesshahd, and not to temptation without evil, and the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever, amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That is, again, Hugh Duncan, who has a podcast called \"New Clarity\" \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And I'm thinking about enlarging this fast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0To include what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0All of the above.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, I guess, yeah, if \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No, no, I'm just thinking about it, but after listening to Hugh, Bob, you just think about it for a moment.\u00a0 It would be like having people fast from telephone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yeah, or \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Air.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Breathing, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There are certain aspects of media today that we use, like the telephone.\u00a0 I don't think the TV is one of them, by the way, but some of those other things Barbara and I use, and we enjoy them.\u00a0 I go through a lot of e-mails and read some blogs and have an iPod and listen to some music and, yeah, I understand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0It's part of how we do life in this era, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Exactly, but what we're calling people to do is give up television.\u00a0 Turn if off for the month of August and build some relationships on purpose as a couple, as an individual, and use this month to enlarge your borders beyond a little silver screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0All right, go over this again with me one more time \u2013 that's the primary purpose for this month-long thing so that we'll spend more time in relationships?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0That's exactly right.\u00a0 This is not a media fast, a comprehensive media fast.\u00a0 I am calling people to give up their television and television viewing for one month.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And what if I'm using television as a way to promote relationships.\u00a0 You know, you talked a little about watching nature films and going out in the back yard, that kind of thing.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's what I had in mind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Was nature films for the month.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing] Nature films \u2013 the Discovery Channel with Bob and Mary Ann.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0All right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I don't think so.\u00a0 No, I think what you have to do is find another way to do it, Bob.\u00a0 Just take a month.\u00a0 It's just 30 days, and then report back to me and tell me at the end of the 30 days did you enjoy relationships more or not \u2013 did you realize how much television was robbing you of valuable time with your most important relationships?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0We have somebody on the line with us who wants to report back to you, and, frankly, she's a little different than Hugh.\u00a0 She is from \u2013 let me put it this way \u2013 she is more of your era, that's what I'm \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Hugh is a pup.\u00a0 I mean, he's \u2013 what is he, 30?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0He's in his 30's, yeah.\u00a0 We have on the line with us somebody who has, in the past, participated in one of these TV fasts during the month of August.\u00a0 Her name is Carolyn Franklin, she lives in Murphy, North Carolina, with her husband, John, and, Carolyn, welcome to FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0So how did your 12-year-old handle no TV?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Well, I'm going to tell you, and I wish that your listeners could know that he is a strong-willed child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0He pushed back?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0No.\u00a0 Oddly enough, he didn't.\u00a0 But he loves to play games, and so I promised him that we would play Aggravation whenever he wanted to, Scrabble whenever he wanted to.\u00a0 We played games, we spent more time outside, we just enjoyed \u2013 we put up a badminton net, and he and I played badminton, and we have a VCR, and we'd go to the local library \u2013 I don't know if people realize that, but the local libraries probably have almost as many videos as they do books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Right, you know, sometimes I'll get a little stir crazy with the TV being off.\u00a0 Can Mary Ann and I come over and play some Scrabble or something at your house?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Oh, Canasta.\u00a0 I would love to find someone who could play that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You'd have to teach me how to do it again.\u00a0 It's been about 40 years since I've had a good game of Canasta.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Well, it's been a while for me, too, because we're Baptists.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, I'm a Baptist, too, but we played Canasta.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Canasta does not fall under gambling.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No, it sure doesn't.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0It's a lot of fun.\u00a0 Hey, Carolyn, thanks for being with us, and just hang in there raising those grandchildren.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Thank you for the witness that you put out for those of us who really need information.\u00a0 I appreciate it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0We appreciate you.\u00a0 Good talking to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Bye-bye.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Thank you, bye-bye.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You know, the thought just occurs to me, at the library they've got some of those nature videos, so I'm \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You're still after that.\u00a0 You know, I'm just thinking about how relevant FamilyLife Today is for listeners.\u00a0 From iPods to Canasta \u2013 I mean, there is a generation who is listening to us who does not know what an iPod is, and there's another generation, a larger generation, that has no idea what Canasta is.\u00a0 This sounds like some kind of viral disease.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I just want to make sure I don't get it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0It's a card game, Bob.\u00a0 My mom and dad used to play it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So, once again, the whole premise of this \u2013 you want to encourage listeners, starting, what is it, next Tuesday, I think, that August starts, and you want us to go from Tuesday \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 cold turkey.\u00a0 Immediately break the addiction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Pull the plug.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No nature videos.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And do you want us to put one of the sticker things on our TV screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There's a great sticker thing we've designed that says, \"Turn Off the TV Fast.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I shouldn't call it sticker, it's static, because you can peel it off at the end of the fast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There you go, it doesn't leave any residue.\u00a0 You're not going to have to use some kind of toxic glue remover.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0It covers the whole TV screen, and it just reminds you that this month we're saying no to TV.\u00a0 What about the people who just got the big screen or the plasma or the whole home entertainment center?\u00a0 Do they put a lock on the door for that for 30 days \u2013 31 days?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I guess they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Here's the deal \u2013 you and Barbara are the only two who have to agree to this at your house, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing] What does that have to do with it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I have children at my house.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Let me tell you something, Bob, you are the parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I have teenagers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You don't have room in your house for a third parent.\u00a0 So I'm calling on you, Bob, to be the parent \u2013 to step on up and provide some leadership.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I've got all five of my kids home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0They're going to whine, they're going to complain.\u00a0 Amy's going to be off on her honeymoon.\u00a0 She's not going to want to watch TV, anyway.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's probably true, but, actually, our team has come up with a resource that a lot of our listeners have used during the August TV Fast in past years that is a great little resource.\u00a0 It's called \"Fifty Nights of Family Fun.\"\u00a0 Turn off the tube and turn up the laughs, and it gives you activities you can do as a family during the time when the TV is off.\u00a0 So when the kids do come and say, \"Can't we watch this?\"\u00a0 You say, \"Go get the book,\" and let them pick one.\u00a0 Let them pick a number, and then you turn to that page and say, \"Okay, here's an activity we can do instead of watching TV tonight.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We've got the book, \"Fifty Nights of Family Fun\" in our FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 We also have those static sheets for your TV available.\u00a0 Go to our website, FamilyLife.com and click the \"Go\" button in the middle of the screen.\u00a0 That will take you to the page where you can get more information about all of these resources or call 1-800-FLTODAY and mention that you're signing up for the TV fast, and that you want some help, and we'll see what we can send out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0When you get in touch with us, can we ask you to consider making a donation to the ministry of FamilyLife Today?\u00a0 Many of you know that we listener-supported, and what that means is that folks just like you who have been listening to FamilyLife Today for a while have, in the past, called in or gone online to make a donation to our ministry, and that's the reason that we can be here this week with our program, because of that past support.\u00a0 And we want to remind our listeners that those financial needs continue throughout the year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Let me say thanks in advance for considering making a donation when you contact us.\u00a0 We appreciate your partnership with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Well, tomorrow we are going to welcome John Piper to our FamilyLife Today studios, and we're going to talk about living a life with a purpose in mind, about not wasting your 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think Eddie Haskell is behind this.\u00a0 Boys, turn off the TV.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou'll find there's plenty of stuff to do,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe're sure you'll all agree,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt's swell, it's keen, you'll have such fun\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you turn off your TV.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us on the Fat Tuesday edition of our program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Fat Tuesday?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0The Fat TV Tuesday \u2013 I should have clarified that.\u00a0 You know how right before Wednesday, Ash Wednesday, they have \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Oh, I get it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0They have Fat Tuesday, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Yeah, exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And that's the day that \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And because we're fasting from television \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, because you're calling people to fast.\u00a0 I don't know that I've signed on for this completely yet, you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Of course, you have, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0But I don't wanna!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0What Bob's talking about is each year in the month of August, we call our listeners to give up TV for a month, and you'll get over it, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'll give up cutting the grass, how's that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing hysterically]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0If I trade it out with that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There's two generations, you know, Bob?\u00a0 There's an older generation that kind of goes back to when TV started, and there's a younger generation that, well, TV is just a smaller part of what they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0In fact, I was curious as to how younger listeners would take to this idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0When you say \"younger listeners,\" who are you referring to, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I'm talking about young families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Twelve-year-olds?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0No, no, no, no, no.\u00a0 I'm talking about those who are in their 20s, in their early 30s, maybe they're single, maybe they're raising a family.\u00a0 I'm not sure exactly \u2013 well, I'll tell you who is the prototype for this.\u00a0 We have a friend, Hugh Duncan, who produces a podcast called \"New Clarity,\" and Hugh is \u2013 he's a young dad.\u00a0 He and his wife, Renee, have two little children, and we went to Hugh \u2013 he works in media.\u00a0 And so I was talking to him.\u00a0 I said, \"Do you think you and your family would participate in this idea of a month-long TV fast?\"\u00a0 And he said, \"Well, let me think about that, and I'll get back with you.\"\u00a0 And he actually got back with me on tape, and so I thought our listeners ought to hear.\u00a0 This is Hugh kind of ruminating on whether he and his family can do a month-long TV fast.\u00a0 And before we hear it, you wanted to let the older listeners know \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I want to just encourage all of you listeners who are 35 and older, and there are a few hundred thousand of you who are listening right now \u2013 I just wanted to encourage you \u2013 hang in there on this.\u00a0 You may kind of go, \"Now, what's his point?\"\u00a0 Hang with it all the way to the end.\u00a0 Let's listen to Hugh Duncan.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0They have to understand that there is a fast brain and a slow brain.\u00a0 They have to understand that there is a [tape speeds up and slows down] \u2013 there is a fast brain and slow brain.\u00a0 That's what Dr. Robert Reiher says.\u00a0 I'm using some software to edit an interview that someone did with Robert Reiher about his book, \"Kidnapped \u2013 How Irresponsible Marketers are Stealing the Minds of Your Children.\"\u00a0 [distorted tape sounds].\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0The fast brain is the brain that responds automatically to compelling media and entertainment that is designed specifically to hook it [distorted tape sounds].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0That's what I'm trying to do \u2013 edit this interview into something that will hook radio listeners and give them something exciting to listen to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0The slow brain is the part of the brain that responds to relationships and to thinking and to reading and to the higher activities of human behavior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Well, I'm trying to do that, too \u2013 use this interview to help parents in their relationship with their children, help them to think rationally and deeply about media and TV and their kids' viewing habits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0[distorted] human behavior.\u00a0 So don't let your kids be immersed in fast-brain activities.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0After editing like this all day, staring at two computer screens for eight hours, which brain am I using?\u00a0 Do I even have a brain left?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0What's disempowering certainly is spending too much time with machines and what's empowering is to, you know, spend more time with family and friends and interacting in social ways.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0This is Dr. Daniel Acuff, co-author of the book, \"Kidnapped,\" who is constantly talking about the need to unplug from machines, and it's really ironic that I'm sitting here editing these authors talking about the need to unplug while I sit in front of two computers.\u00a0 One of them has the editing software, the other feeds me a constant stream of e-mail and blog posts, and when I break from editing and open an e-mail, I instinctively start playing my iPod.\u00a0 This is the world in which my wife and I are raising two daughters, and this interview is part of an important discussion on how media affects children.\u00a0 It's something my wife and I grapple with all the time.\u00a0 When we brought our first little bundle of joy home six years ago, we didn't throw out the TV or the rest of our gadgets, and knowing what's appropriate has been a constant source of discussion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0In the book \"Kidnapped,\" we set out a week in the life of an 8-12-year-old and talk about what's empowering and what's disempowering.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0That gets me thinking.\u00a0 How is media used in my house in a typical day?\u00a0 How do the thoughts of these authors relate to my family?\u00a0 Let's back up a little bit.\u00a0 [sound of tape being rewound.]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0[Alarm clock] At one point, I would have grabbed for coffee at this time of the morning, but I'm fasting.\u00a0 Most people don't have any trouble with this but, for me, caffeine can become like an idol, and I've needed to give it up.\u00a0 But in order to get my mind going, I turn on my iPod and in order to get my body going, I've decided to take a walk.\u00a0 Basically, I've tried to replace caffeine with exercise and media.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0My three-year-old is soon awake, and one of the first things she says is \u2013 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Can I turn on a DVD?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0We try to steer her toward a more wholesome pursuit first thing in the morning like going to the bathroom.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0On the way to work, the iPod is in shuffle mode, and a song by my daughter pops up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0[singing]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0When I got the iPod one of the first things my daughter wanted to know did I have any songs of her singing.\u00a0 She was happy to find out that I had this one of her when she was a toddler, that she had become a media producer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I arrive at work to stare at my two computers and start editing Daniel Acuff.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0If I'm spending more time with machines, I'm spending less time with family, and then I just don't grow the same way and as healthy in that way that I would ordinarily.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0This program is supposed to encourage people to fast from TV in the month of August, and I think I could give up TV pretty easily.\u00a0 Like a lot of people, I've been spending more time with new types of media than with TV.\u00a0 Statistics show that viewership is down.\u00a0 Now, if I had to give up computers and the accompanying gadgets, that would be hard.\u00a0 And it's also why I'm a little defensive about this interview.\u00a0 The authors are supposed to be talking about turning off the TV, but they keep lumping all media together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0We call it \"E-time\" or \"T-time\" \u2013 E-time is enriching time, T-time is toxic tech time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Meanwhile, while I'm editing, back at home my three-year-old is watching a video we checked out at the library.\u00a0 It's actually way beneath her, but she still likes watching it.\u00a0 It's kind of one of those brainy baby or Baby Einstein type videos that show lots of repetitive shapes and colors to help stimulate a baby's brain.\u00a0 A lot of people advocated this type of thing when my first daughter was born, the idea that if you play classical music while they're still in the womb and then introduce them to DVDs of swirling patterns and colors, your child is more likely to grow up to be a math genius or something.\u00a0 Robert Reiher says there is no scientific data to support this idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0The parents want to think it does so they can jumpstart children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0I think parents to feel this pressure to stimulate their kids' brains and give them a competitive advantage in life, but at the same time, parents also just want a chance to get something done without having a toddler wrapped around their legs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0While I keep editing, my daughter back at home has to turn off the TV.\u00a0 She's reached her limit for the day.\u00a0 Over the summer, my wife and I realized we needed some kind of limit on how much the girls can watch every day, and we chose one hour.\u00a0 I'm not sure why, it just seemed like common sense, and I was excited to find out the brain researchers said we got it right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0Below the age of seven, if they're just starting school, for example, maybe an hour, half hour a day, if they had any homework, of course, kindergarten and first grade, second grade, there's not much homework but a little bit of homework \u2013 half an hour a day, maybe, but on the weekends an hour, hour and a half at the most in front of any screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0In front of any screen.\u00a0 That brings up something I haven't figured out about our one-hour-a-day rule.\u00a0 Does it include the computer?\u00a0 Once my three-year-old has consumed her DVD ration for the day, she starts asking to play CD-ROMS, and I tend to let her.\u00a0 It seems to me like playing computer games is a great learning experience, especially in our high-tech world.\u00a0 She'll be using computers all her life, right?\u00a0 She better start learning now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0And there's a lot of illusion in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Ugggghhh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobert:\u00a0Parents are under the illusion that because this is a technological age, they want their kids jumpstarted, and they believe that they should be doing that as early as a child can put his hands on a computer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0You see, we make a distinction between hot and cold mediums.\u00a0 A hot medium is anything electronic like television, video games, that is interactively electronic, but cold mediums or cool mediums are reading and just playing and being \u2013 having time and space to think and create.\u00a0 So it's really robbing the child of that time that they need to have free play and free association.\u00a0 That's when thinking can occur.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Back at home my girls are involved in what these authors call \"free play.\" They are using their imaginations, I think.\u00a0 They're acting out a movie.\u00a0 They basically have the script memorized, and they're quoting it using different rooms of the house to represent different sets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Whatcha doin, hibernatin'?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0So does their free play count as cold non-media time that's all based on a movie?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Flower is [inaudible].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Meanwhile, back in front of the editing computer \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0I'm 63 years old, so when I was young, we had a black-and-white TV when I was nine.\u00a0 That was it.\u00a0 So what I did to entertain myself was get on my bike, I lived in the country on a cotton farm, and I'd ride around the country and go out to the city dump, you know, and if it was a lucky day, I'd find a dead sheep.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0What?\u00a0 He played at the city dump?\u00a0 Did I hear that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0[rewinds the tape] \u2026 ride around the country and go out to the city dump, you know, and if it was a lucky day, I'd find a dead sheep.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Are we really sure the city dump and dead sheep are an improvement over Baby Einstein videos?\u00a0 I mean, isn't the city dump dangerous for a kid?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Back at home, my wife and my six-year-old are outside listening to a cowbird.\u00a0 We recognize it because we've been studying birdcalls on CD.\u00a0 During a lot of car rides, we've put in the CD and that helps us recognize different birdsongs.\u00a0 The cowbird isn't much to look at, but we've all been amazed by the sounds it can make [cowbird sings].\u00a0 And, again, I'm not quite sure how this fits in with what I'm editing.\u00a0 These authors tend to be pretty black and white.\u00a0 You're either plugged into machines, or you're unplugged.\u00a0 What if you're learning about nature, which seems like you're unplugged, but you're listening to a CD, so you're plugged in, but you're with the family, unplugged, but you're in a car, which is a machine, and then you're going outside and applying that knowledge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0And then there's something even called \"natural intelligence,\" where it's how smart am I about nature?\u00a0 And if we're not spending as much time outdoors and playing in parks and going camping with the family, how are we going to get natural intelligence built?\u00a0 We're spending too much time with machines.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0I've gotten home by now.\u00a0 Dinner is over, and, no, we don't watch TV during dinner.\u00a0 And while I'm washing the dishes, someone puts on a song that we had downloaded off the Internet a while back.\u00a0 It's one of my daughter's favorites, and they start to dance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnnouncer:\u00a0[echo] Right about now, the funk soul brother \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0My three-year-old comes in and invites me to dance, and I say \"No, I've got to finish the dishes, and then I've got to sit in front of the computer and pay bills.\"\u00a0 And she looked so sad, which reminds me of Jesus' words.\u00a0 He said, \"To what shall I compare this generation?\u00a0 It is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to their playmates, 'We played the flute for you, and you did not dance.\u00a0 We sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.'\"\u00a0 So I let the dishes go and follow my daughter.\u00a0 They've recruited my wife, too, and pretty soon all four of us are dancing like maniacs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song \"Funk Soul Brother\"]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I think back to what Daniel Acuff said \u2013 when he was a kid, and he had a chance to play, he'd go down to the city dump, and if he was lucky, he'd find a treasure, a dead sheep.\u00a0 I think that serves as a picture of our world and our media landscape.\u00a0 The truth is, we're living in a dump.\u00a0 Our world's been marred by sin, and we see the effect of sin everywhere.\u00a0 But, at the same time, it's the work of an incredible Creator, who is coming back soon to clean up the trash and, in the meantime, He invites us to play, and He invites us to dance.\u00a0 And in the midst of all the trash, He lets us find treasures that remind us of Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We can pretend like everything is perfectly safe; that life is like a row of neatly ordered manicured lawns, but kids don't want to play there because there's no life, no passion, and no treasure.\u00a0 That's why I don't make my kids listen to stuff like this \u2026 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song \"I'm a C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n\"]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0C.S. Lewis was an atheist, but he was also a lover of stories and mythology, and the things he read as a kid put him on a path that led him to discover the ultimate storyteller.\u00a0 I hope that my kids are on the same path; that media like this \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[song \"Funk Soul Brother\"]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u2026 will put them in contact with the God who created rhythm, and I think about one of the most amazing things I edited today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0About an hour and a half \u2026 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Hour?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0I use it as a distraction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Daniel Acuff was asked how much TV does he watch?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaniel:\u00a0About an hour and a half in the evening.\u00a0 I use it as amusement and distraction.\u00a0 After a day of work, I figure, okay, I deserve it now, so \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0The guy who uses words like \"toxic tech time,\" spends an hour a night watching TV?\u00a0 Well, on the other hand, I, who has been playing devil's advocate all day, never turn the TV on, because if I did, I wouldn't have time for this \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0[singing] Our father who are in heaven, hallowed be your name, the kids will come, your will be done, however it is in heaven.\u00a0 Give this day our daily bread \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHugh:\u00a0Maybe trying to unplug is like trying to leave the dump.\u00a0 It's just the world we're in but, at the same time, if you're being discerning, watching TV every night is not the best choice.\u00a0 And if you're in the habit of watching TV every day like I used to be in the habit of drinking coffee, the TV Fast is probably a really good idea.\u00a0 Just like giving up coffee can let you taste other flavors, giving up TV can lead to all kinds of wonderful experiences.\u00a0 I mean, why watch TV when there are birdcalls to learn and cool songs to download and stories to read and movies to act out and children who are saying, \"Come, dance.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDaughter:\u00a0Give this day our daily bread and give the prosses and gesshahd, and not to temptation without evil, and the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever, amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That is, again, Hugh Duncan, who has a podcast called \"New Clarity\" \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And I'm thinking about enlarging this fast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0To include what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0All of the above.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, I guess, yeah, if \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No, no, I'm just thinking about it, but after listening to Hugh, Bob, you just think about it for a moment.\u00a0 It would be like having people fast from telephone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yeah, or \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Air.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Breathing, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There are certain aspects of media today that we use, like the telephone.\u00a0 I don't think the TV is one of them, by the way, but some of those other things Barbara and I use, and we enjoy them.\u00a0 I go through a lot of e-mails and read some blogs and have an iPod and listen to some music and, yeah, I understand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0It's part of how we do life in this era, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Exactly, but what we're calling people to do is give up television.\u00a0 Turn if off for the month of August and build some relationships on purpose as a couple, as an individual, and use this month to enlarge your borders beyond a little silver screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0All right, go over this again with me one more time \u2013 that's the primary purpose for this month-long thing so that we'll spend more time in relationships?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0That's exactly right.\u00a0 This is not a media fast, a comprehensive media fast.\u00a0 I am calling people to give up their television and television viewing for one month.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And what if I'm using television as a way to promote relationships.\u00a0 You know, you talked a little about watching nature films and going out in the back yard, that kind of thing.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's what I had in mind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Was nature films for the month.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing] Nature films \u2013 the Discovery Channel with Bob and Mary Ann.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0All right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I don't think so.\u00a0 No, I think what you have to do is find another way to do it, Bob.\u00a0 Just take a month.\u00a0 It's just 30 days, and then report back to me and tell me at the end of the 30 days did you enjoy relationships more or not \u2013 did you realize how much television was robbing you of valuable time with your most important relationships?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0We have somebody on the line with us who wants to report back to you, and, frankly, she's a little different than Hugh.\u00a0 She is from \u2013 let me put it this way \u2013 she is more of your era, that's what I'm \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Hugh is a pup.\u00a0 I mean, he's \u2013 what is he, 30?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0He's in his 30's, yeah.\u00a0 We have on the line with us somebody who has, in the past, participated in one of these TV fasts during the month of August.\u00a0 Her name is Carolyn Franklin, she lives in Murphy, North Carolina, with her husband, John, and, Carolyn, welcome to FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0So how did your 12-year-old handle no TV?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Well, I'm going to tell you, and I wish that your listeners could know that he is a strong-willed child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0He pushed back?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0No.\u00a0 Oddly enough, he didn't.\u00a0 But he loves to play games, and so I promised him that we would play Aggravation whenever he wanted to, Scrabble whenever he wanted to.\u00a0 We played games, we spent more time outside, we just enjoyed \u2013 we put up a badminton net, and he and I played badminton, and we have a VCR, and we'd go to the local library \u2013 I don't know if people realize that, but the local libraries probably have almost as many videos as they do books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Right, you know, sometimes I'll get a little stir crazy with the TV being off.\u00a0 Can Mary Ann and I come over and play some Scrabble or something at your house?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Oh, Canasta.\u00a0 I would love to find someone who could play that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You'd have to teach me how to do it again.\u00a0 It's been about 40 years since I've had a good game of Canasta.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Well, it's been a while for me, too, because we're Baptists.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Well, I'm a Baptist, too, but we played Canasta.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Canasta does not fall under gambling.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No, it sure doesn't.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0It's a lot of fun.\u00a0 Hey, Carolyn, thanks for being with us, and just hang in there raising those grandchildren.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Thank you for the witness that you put out for those of us who really need information.\u00a0 I appreciate it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0We appreciate you.\u00a0 Good talking to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Bye-bye.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCarolyn:\u00a0Thank you, bye-bye.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0You know, the thought just occurs to me, at the library they've got some of those nature videos, so I'm \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You're still after that.\u00a0 You know, I'm just thinking about how relevant FamilyLife Today is for listeners.\u00a0 From iPods to Canasta \u2013 I mean, there is a generation who is listening to us who does not know what an iPod is, and there's another generation, a larger generation, that has no idea what Canasta is.\u00a0 This sounds like some kind of viral disease.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I just want to make sure I don't get it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0It's a card game, Bob.\u00a0 My mom and dad used to play it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So, once again, the whole premise of this \u2013 you want to encourage listeners, starting, what is it, next Tuesday, I think, that August starts, and you want us to go from Tuesday \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0\u2026 cold turkey.\u00a0 Immediately break the addiction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Pull the plug.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0No nature videos.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0And do you want us to put one of the sticker things on our TV screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There's a great sticker thing we've designed that says, \"Turn Off the TV Fast.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I shouldn't call it sticker, it's static, because you can peel it off at the end of the fast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0There you go, it doesn't leave any residue.\u00a0 You're not going to have to use some kind of toxic glue remover.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0It covers the whole TV screen, and it just reminds you that this month we're saying no to TV.\u00a0 What about the people who just got the big screen or the plasma or the whole home entertainment center?\u00a0 Do they put a lock on the door for that for 30 days \u2013 31 days?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I guess they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Here's the deal \u2013 you and Barbara are the only two who have to agree to this at your house, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0[laughing] What does that have to do with it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I have children at my house.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Let me tell you something, Bob, you are the parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I have teenagers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0You don't have room in your house for a third parent.\u00a0 So I'm calling on you, Bob, to be the parent \u2013 to step on up and provide some leadership.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0I've got all five of my kids home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0They're going to whine, they're going to complain.\u00a0 Amy's going to be off on her honeymoon.\u00a0 She's not going to want to watch TV, anyway.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's probably true, but, actually, our team has come up with a resource that a lot of our listeners have used during the August TV Fast in past years that is a great little resource.\u00a0 It's called \"Fifty Nights of Family Fun.\"\u00a0 Turn off the tube and turn up the laughs, and it gives you activities you can do as a family during the time when the TV is off.\u00a0 So when the kids do come and say, \"Can't we watch this?\"\u00a0 You say, \"Go get the book,\" and let them pick one.\u00a0 Let them pick a number, and then you turn to that page and say, \"Okay, here's an activity we can do instead of watching TV tonight.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0We've got the book, \"Fifty Nights of Family Fun\" in our FamilyLife Resource Center.\u00a0 We also have those static sheets for your TV available.\u00a0 Go to our website, FamilyLife.com and click the \"Go\" button in the middle of the screen.\u00a0 That will take you to the page where you can get more information about all of these resources or call 1-800-FLTODAY and mention that you're signing up for the TV fast, and that you want some help, and we'll see 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