{"id":300858,"date":"2005-03-23T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2005-03-23T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/theories-refuted-by-evidence\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:42:02","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:42:02","slug":"theories-refuted-by-evidence","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/theories-refuted-by-evidence\/","title":{"rendered":"Theories Refuted by Evidence"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Josh McDowell compares theories that dispute the resurrection to evidence that supports it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2005-03-23.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"11.41M","filesize_raw":"11967741","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2824],"tags":[4224,4299,2357],"podcast_series":[7364],"cwp_profile":[8945],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-300858","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-easter-and-lent","tag-easter","tag-faith","tag-resurrection","podcast_series-the-great-ressurrection-hoax-or-history","cwp_profile-josh-mcdowell","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/300858\/theories-refuted-by-evidence","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/300858\/theories-refuted-by-evidence","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"lMxXeVa6y6\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/theories-refuted-by-evidence\/\">Theories Refuted by Evidence<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/theories-refuted-by-evidence\/embed\/#?secret=lMxXeVa6y6\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Theories Refuted by Evidence&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"lMxXeVa6y6\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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They went and hid themselves in their own homes.\u00a0 The breaking of the Roman seal \u2013 it was feared by everyone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Second, every time somebody approached that tomb after the resurrection, an amazing statement was made in the Greek that's often lost in the English rendering.\u00a0 For example, Mark says that the stone was rolled up a slope \u2013 up a slope, and for him to use that verb, there had to be an incline coming down to the front of the tomb.\u00a0 Luke uses the same verb, but he added a different preposition \u2013 it means \"to roll something away from something else in the sense of distance.\"\u00a0 Now, they saw the stone roll away from \u2013 what would they roll away the stone from to steal the body?\u00a0 Say, \"The entrance.\"\u00a0 Right \u2013 from the entrance of the tomb, now that's logical.\u00a0 Well, on Sunday morning, the women were coming to the tomb.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I had a good question asked of me the other day.\u00a0 Why were the women coming to the tomb if the Roman guard unit was there and the stone was so big and the seal was placed on it?\u00a0 The answer is this \u2013 they did not know it had been sealed and the guard unit had been put there.\u00a0 Christ was crucified and buried Friday afternoon.\u00a0 The guard unit did not examine the body and seal it until probably about Saturday afternoon.\u00a0 The women lived in the suburb of Bethany.\u00a0 They didn't know about it.\u00a0 And so Mark records they were coming to the tomb, and they were saying to each other \"Who rolled away the stone from\" \u2013 and they used the Greek word, like you brought out, more or less \u2013 for the entrance of the tomb.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut when they got there, they said, \"Who rolled away the stone from the sense of distance, and they changed the Greek word from the \"entrance of the tomb,\" to the word for the entire massive sepulcher.\u00a0 In fact, that stone was in such a position \u2013 up the slope, away from the entire tomb \u2013 that John used an entirely different Greek verb.\u00a0 He used the Greek verb \"hairo\" in John 20, and according to the [inaudible] lexicons, it means \"to pick up something and to carry it away.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, men and women, if they just wanted to tiptoe in and steal the body, why all the effort to move a one-and-a-half to two-ton stone up a slope, away from the entire tomb, looking like it had been picked up and carried away?\u00a0 I can tell you one thing, that guard unit had to have cotton in their ears with earmuffs on not to have heard that one.\u00a0 That would have been recorded on the Richter scale at Cal Tech.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then you've got this problem \u2013 the guard unit.\u00a0 I'll tell you why nobody believed they fell asleep.\u00a0 Check out Philidias [ph], even better, Justin, his digest number 49, lists 18 things that a guard unit was put to death for.\u00a0 And what is interesting, they're disciplined.\u00a0 If the guard unit failed always one person was executed, and if they didn't know who it was that was the culprit, they cast lots, and whoever drew the lot was killed.\u00a0 One way they were killed, they were stripped of their clothes and burned alive in a fire started with their own garments.\u00a0 Not one of them had fallen asleep.\u00a0 They'd been up all night beating each other over the head not to lose it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then you've got this problem \u2013 the tomb wasn't empty.\u00a0 You say, \"Yes, it was.\"\u00a0 No it wasn't.\u00a0 You say, \"It was, too.\"\u00a0 It was not!\u00a0 The tomb was not empty.\u00a0 Look, the women panicked.\u00a0 You would, too.\u00a0 And they ran back and told the men.\u00a0 And Peter and John ran to the tomb.\u00a0 Now, John got there first.\u00a0 For one, he was younger, plus he probably played a lot more tennis.\u00a0 But he got there first.\u00a0 Now, he didn't go in.\u00a0 It says he leaned over \u2013remember the entrance \u2013 he leaned over, and he looked in.\u00a0 And he looked over where the body of Christ had been placed, and there were the grave clothes.\u00a0 Headpiece where the head was, body piece where the body was that caved in a little, and empty.\u00a0 The body of Christ had passed right through it into a new existence.\u00a0 Let's face it, that would sort of make you a hotshot believer at least for the moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMen and women, if Jesus didn't die then, when did He die?\u00a0 Why doesn't history have no record of anyone after the resurrection going back to pay homage to their great leader?\u00a0 Very simple \u2013 who wants to worship an empty tomb?\u00a0 Only tourists do that today.\u00a0 You say, \"Wait a minute, Josh, the Romans or the Jews took the body.\"\u00a0 Why would they do that?\u00a0 \"Well, that's simple, McDowell, they put it in a safe place so there wouldn't be any deception.\"\u00a0 That sounds pretty good unless you want to think.\u00a0 Why would they do the very thing that would cause all their problems?\u00a0 Men and women, the disciples did not trip off to Athens or Rome to do their preaching.\u00a0 Look, they went right back to the city of Jerusalem, the most difficult place on the face of the earth to convince anyone of the resurrection if that tomb wasn't empty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLook, a 15-minute walk by a Jerusalite secretary on her lunch break, eating yogurt, could confirm the emptiness of the tomb.\u00a0 Now, if the Romans and the Jews had the body, why didn't they just speak up and say, \"Hey, we moved it.\"\u00a0 If that didn't suffice say, \"Look, we put it over here,\" and show them the Beacon storage slip.\u00a0 If that wasn't enough, why didn't they take the body and put it in the carriage and march it right down through the center of Jerusalem?\u00a0 Let me tell you, they'd have killed Christianity not in the cradle but in the womb.\u00a0 There wouldn't have been any Christianity.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, a lot of people never realized the Christian faith is a bodiless faith.\u00a0 If there would have been a body, there would never have been a Christianity.\u00a0 A Muslim student at the University of Uruguay said to me \u2013 we were kind of joking around with a lot of truth behind it, and he said, \"You poor Christians.\" He said, \"You don't know where you're going.\"\u00a0 He said, \"We go to the tomb of our Master, we have his body.\u00a0 You go to the tomb, and your Master, and it's\" \u2013 I said, \"Go ahead and say it \u2013 it's empty.\"\u00a0 Oh, I'd love to have had a Polaroid, because there's one Muslim student that was realizing a most significant historical fact \u2013 the tomb was empty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, look at the family of Jesus.\u00a0 Now, don't tell me He didn't have any brothers and sisters.\u00a0 Not only is it recorded in the Gospels, but Flavius Josephus, the Jewish historian, in his antiquities records the death of James, the brother of the one called Jesus.\u00a0 Now, when Jesus was alive, did His brothers and sisters believe in Him, did they?\u00a0 No.\u00a0 They thought He was a lunatic.\u00a0 They thought He was deranged, going around saying, \"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light.\u00a0 No one cometh unto the Father but by me.\u00a0 I am the Shepherd you are the sheep.\u00a0 I am the vine, you are the branches.\"\u00a0 What would you do if your brother did that?\u00a0 It's the same thing.\u00a0 They laughed, and they mocked at him.\u00a0 In fact, they were embarrassed.\u00a0 They said, \"Look, Jesus, do you want people to believe in you?\u00a0 Why don't you go up to Jerusalem?\"\u00a0 But where do you find those hardest to convince his own family?\u00a0 After their brother went to that heinous death on the cross being cursed of God and was buried, you find those hardest to convince in the upper room in a matter of days were the disciples waiting for the Holy Spirit to descend.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMen and women, if while He was alive, they laughed and mocked at him, and he went through that horrible, degrading death on the cross and was buried, what in the world happened that turned their lives upside down, they became followers of their own brothers, and most of them became martyrs.\u00a0 James \u2013 I mean, you found him with the Pharisees not with the Christians.\u00a0 He became a leader of the Jerusalem church, and he writes an Epistle \u2013 I, James, the servant of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, his brother.\u00a0 The only answer I know to that that makes any sense is 1 Corinthians 15 \u2013 \"Then he appeared unto James, his brother, the resurrection.\u00a0 Jesus Christ is alive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact you might say the one speaking tonight is evidence that Jesus Christ is raised from the dead, and that same power is available to every man and woman in this convention center.\u00a0 Let me show you what I mean.\u00a0 Let me bring it right down to where we live.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA few years ago my life was described by Thomas Aquinas, and he said there is within every soul a restless thirst for happiness and meaning.\u00a0 I wanted to be happy and didn't want to be.\u00a0 I wanted to be one of the happiest individuals in the whole world, and I couldn't see anything wrong with that.\u00a0 I was on the back of a motor scooter with a businessman in Newport Beach, and we were riding along, and we were laughing and having a good time.\u00a0 I enjoy life.\u00a0 I love to laugh.\u00a0 It's one reason why my physician said I don't have ulcers.\u00a0 He said I laugh a lot plus I tell people exactly what I think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we were riding along, laughing and telling ourselves what we thought, and these two women pulled up in a brand-new Continental, and for three blocks at about 17-20 miles an hour, they just rode alongside staring at us.\u00a0 Well, after about three blocks, the lady on the passenger side rolled down her window, and she yelled out and said, \"What right do you have to be so happy.\"\u00a0 Rolled up the window and drove on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, I wanted to be happy, and more than that, I wanted the answers to these three questions \u2013 who am I?\u00a0 What am I here?\u00a0 Where am I going?\u00a0 I wanted to be free.\u00a0 Freedom is not doing what you want to do, it's doing what you know you ought to do.\u00a0 So I started looking for answers.\u00a0 Where I was brought up, everybody had religion.\u00a0 So I took off for church.\u00a0 I think I must have found the wrong church.\u00a0 In spite of what the pastor said, I still believe in God.\u00a0 But I felt worse inside than I did outside.\u00a0 So I thought, \"Well, maybe education is the answer.\"\u00a0 So I went and enrolled in a university.\u00a0 What a disappointment.\u00a0 I used to buttonhole my faculty in their offices.\u00a0 I'm sure some of them used to turn the lights off and pull the shades when they saw me coming.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDr. Sheldon, my economic theory professor, he could tell me how to make a better living, but my faculty could not tell me how to live better, and that's where they let me down.\u00a0 Then I tried student leadership, political offices, got elected.\u00a0 But it seemed like every Monday morning I woke up the same individual, usually with a headache because of the night before, and the attitude, \"Well, here goes another five days.\"\u00a0 I sort of endured, Monday through Friday.\u00a0 Happiness evolved around three nights a week, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and then I went out and started the vicious cycle all over again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAbout that time, I became frustrated, not desperate, but I was frustrated, because there weren't very many people in the universities of this country more sincere in trying to find meaning and truth and purpose to life than I was, and I hadn't found it.\u00a0 About that time I was very fortunate.\u00a0 In and around the university, I saw a small group of people.\u00a0 There weren't very many.\u00a0 There were eight students and two faculty members.\u00a0 There was something different about their lives.\u00a0 They seemed to know where they were going in life.\u00a0 That's unusual today.\u00a0 But they not only seemed to know where they were going, they had something else that I admire \u2013 these men and women seemed to have convictions.\u00a0 In other words, they seemed to know why they believed what they believed and, oh, I enjoy people like that.\u00a0 I don't care if they agree with me or not.\u00a0 They didn't talk about love, they got involved in people's lives.\u00a0 They had something I didn't have, and I wanted it, so I made friends with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAfter a couple of weeks, we were seated around a table in the Student Union.\u00a0 Six of the students were there, two of the faculty, and one of their wives, I think.\u00a0 I wish you could have been there.\u00a0 The conversation after about 30 minutes started to get to God.\u00a0 Well, let's face it, if you are an insecure student or insecure professor or businessman or woman, the conversation gets to God, you have to put on the big front \u2013 hey, every university, every community, every block, every office has the big mouth.\u00a0 You know, the person that says, \"Oh, Christianity, hah!\u00a0 That's for the weak.\u00a0 It's not intellectual.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know what I found to be true \u2013 the bigger the mouth, the greater the vacuum.\u00a0 The bigger the front they put on, the greater the emptiness on the inside.\u00a0 Well, I wanted what they had, but I didn't want them to know that I wanted what they had, but all the time they knew I wanted what they had and didn't want them to know that I wanted what they had.\u00a0 So I did what some of you have done when you've been anxious for something but didn't want to appear it.\u00a0 So I leaned back in my chair and just with a flippant attitude almost, I just looked over at this young lady, and she was a good-looking woman \u2013 I used to think all Christians were ugly \u2013 I'm sorry, but I figured if you couldn't make it anywhere else you became a Christian.\u00a0 But she was really cute, and that sort of threw me for a loop, because it wasn't what I had anticipated.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo I looked over, and I just said, \"Tell me, what changed your life?\u00a0 Why are you so different from the other students, the faculty?\u00a0 What happened?\"\u00a0 I couldn't believe her \u2013 she looked back at me with a little smile, and that can be irritating.\u00a0 And she just said two words I never thought I'd hear in university as part of the solution.\u00a0 She looked back and said, \"Jesus Christ.\"\u00a0 I said, \"Oh, for heaven's sakes, don't give me that garbage.\"\u00a0 I said, \"I'm fed up with religion, the church, the Bible, don't give me any of that garbage about religion.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll I know is, she had a lot of courage and a lot of convictions.\u00a0 In fact, I think she had both.\u00a0 She shot me back eye-to-eye, and she said, \"Mister, I didn't tell you religion.\u00a0 I told you the person of Jesus Christ.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, I apologized to her.\u00a0 I said, \"Please forgive me for my attitude,\" but I said, \"I have had so many poor experiences with religion and religious people, I don't want anything to do with it.\"\u00a0 Do you know what happened then?\u00a0 I couldn't believe it, I thought it was a joke.\u00a0 Right there in the university, they challenged me to intellectually examine the claims that Jesus Christ is God's Son.\u00a0 I mean, they got personal.\u00a0 God, Yahweh, took on human flesh, death on the cross of the sins of mankind, His burial, His literal resurrection the third day, and then they said His ability to change a man and woman's life in the 20th century.\u00a0 I thought it was a farce.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut they kept challenging me over and over and over again, so I accepted their challenge, and I did it to refute them.\u00a0 In fact, the whole background of my first seven bestsellers was to write a book against Christianity.\u00a0 I figured any fool could do that, and I'd qualify.\u00a0 And so I set out for two years and spent a lot of money and a lot time, and it backfired.\u00a0 After two years, I became convinced that Jesus Christ had to be who He claimed to be.\u00a0 I went through quite a struggle, because my mind told me this was true, and my will was way over here.\u00a0 Because I found out becoming a Christian was a rather ego-shattering experience.\u00a0 Christ says, \"I stand at the door and knock.\u00a0 If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI used to think going to church made you a Christian.\u00a0 Going to church doesn't anymore make you a Christian than walking into the garage makes you a car.\u00a0 It doesn't work that way.\u00a0 A Christian is somebody that exercises his will and places his trust in Christ as Savior and Lord.\u00a0 Well, finally, my mind told me one thing and my will the other thing, and every time I was around those cotton-pickin' Christians, that conflict used to go just like that.\u00a0 Have you ever been around happy people, and you're miserable?\u00a0 So I knew I had to get it off my mind.\u00a0 So December the 19th, 1959, at 8:30 at night, the second year in university, I put it to the test, and I became a Christian.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSomebody said, \"How do you know?\"\u00a0 I said, \"I was there.\"\u00a0 I got alone with a friend of mine by the name of Jerry.\u00a0 He made sure my other friends weren't watching.\u00a0 I was a coward.\u00a0 And I got with a friend of mine and prayed four things that established a relationship with the resurrected Christ that literally transformed my life.\u00a0 I said, \"Lord Jesus, thank you for dying on that cross for me.\"\u00a0 I realized if I'd been the only person in the whole world, Christ still would have died for me.\u00a0 It's hard to understand that kind of love.\u00a0 But now that I just have an absolutely gorgeous wife, two darling daughters, Katie and Kelly, and a precocious son, Sean, I can understand this type of love a lot more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe second, I said, \"I confess there's things in my life unpleasing to You, and I ask You to forgive me.\"\u00a0 Third, I said, \"Right now, the best way I know how, I trust you as Savior and Lord.\u00a0 Take over the throne of my life.\u00a0 Change me from the inside out.\"\u00a0 The last thing I prayed was just \"Thank you for coming into my life by faith.\"\u00a0 Not faith based upon ignorance, faith based upon God's work and evidence of the facts of history.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, that's part 2 of a message from Josh McDowell on the evidence for the resurrection, and it's not just historical evidence but, for Josh, it's personal evidence that has a personal implication.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And we've aired this because we want you to know the same Jesus Christ who rose from the dead on that Easter morning.\u00a0 He is alive, the tomb is empty, and you can pray the same four things that Josh McDowell did.\u00a0 Number one, thank you for dying on the cross for me; number 2, I confess my sins, and I ask for Your forgiveness, God; number 3, I trust You, I believe in You, I cling to You as my Savior and Lord.\u00a0 Take over the throne of my life; and, number 4, I thank you, God, for coming into my life by faith based upon Your Word and what Josh has presented here \u2013 the facts of history.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You know, we're not talking about some kind of object that you place your faith in that is not personal.\u00a0 It's not a chair that you're placing your faith in, it's a person.\u00a0 The person of the Lord and Master, Jesus Christ.\u00a0 He makes an offer to you to give you eternal life, to forgive your sins.\u00a0 He offers to come into your life and make you a new creation, to give you purpose and meaning, and to give you His Holy Spirit.\u00a0 I would just encourage you, if you have never made that decision, if you've been on the outside of the church and of Christianity looking in, now is the day, and if you've been on the inside of the church and have been religious with the best of them but have never made this commitment, now is the day for you as well.\u00a0 Simply take Christ at His Word and pray these four things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Jesus has been revolutionizing lives like Josh's life, like your life, like my life, for the last 2,000 years, and that offer, that opportunity to revolutionize your life is still valid.\u00a0 If you want to find out more about what it means to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, contact us, and we'll send you a free book \u2013 no obligation, no cost.\u00a0 It's called \"Pursuing God,\" and it lays out the claims of Christ, the fact of our need for Him, and the reality of what He did to make a relationship with God possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Again, the title of the book is \"Pursuing God.\"\u00a0 You can request one at no cost when you call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 There is also information about the book available on our website, and we're hoping this weekend that more than 1 million children will hear the message of Easter, the story of Jesus' death, His burial, and His resurrection in the World's Largest Neighborhood Easter Egg Hunt.\u00a0 I know many of you are planning to host one of these Easter egg hunts in your backyard or in a neighborhood park or at a local church.\u00a0 If there is still anything you need to make this event successful, get in touch with us here at FamilyLife or stop by your local Family Christian Store.\u00a0 They are the Neighborhood Easter Egg Hunt headquarters, and if you need a set of Resurrection Eggs for this weekend, you will find those at Family Christian Stores, also at Wal-Mart stores all across the country, and we're anxious to hear how your hunt goes in your neighborhood when it's all over this weekend.\u00a0 So drop us a note and let us know how everything went, will you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, finally, when you do get in touch with us, if you are able to help with a donation for the ministry of FamilyLife Today, that's what makes this radio ministry possible, and if God is using it in your life, we'd like to ask you to consider making a donation, either online on FamilyLife.com or by calling 1-800-FLTODAY and partnering with us in this endeavor to provide practical, biblical help for your marriage and for your family so that together we can have an impact on this culture as our families are changed, one home at a time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Again, you can make a donation online at FamilyLife.com or you can call 1-800-FLTODAY to make donation.\u00a0 All contributions are tax-deductible, and we hope to hear from you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Well, tomorrow we're going to talk about how the reality of the resurrection ought to cause all of us to live with an eternal perspective.\u00a0 I hope you can be back for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We'll see you tomorrow for another edition of FamilyLife Today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0FamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas, a 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McDowell compares theories that dispute the resurrection to evidence that supports it.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2005-03-23.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\tJosh:\u00a0A Muslim student at the University of Uruguay said to me \u2013 we were kind of joking around with a lot of truth behind it, and he said, \"You poor Christians.\"\u00a0 He said, \"You don't know where you're going.\"\u00a0 He said, \"We go to the tomb of our Master, we have his body.\u00a0 You go to the tomb of your Master, and it's\" \u2013 I said, \"Go ahead and say it \u2013 it's empty.\"\u00a0 Oh, I'd love to have had a Polaroid.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0This is FamilyLife Today for Wednesday, March 23rd.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 The empty tomb is just one piece of evidence that supports the reality of the resurrection.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And welcome to FamilyLife Today, thanks for joining us on the Wednesday edition.\u00a0 Are you ready for part 2 here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0I think you need to strap on your seatbelts.\u00a0 You are about to hear one of the most important messages.\u00a0 In fact, you know, ESPN has \"ESPN Classics.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yes, that's right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0FamilyLife is offering you today what I believe is going to become one of the FamilyLife Classics.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0That's right.\u00a0 We're hearing a message this week from Josh McDowell called \"Resurrection:\u00a0 Hoax or History?\"\u00a0 It is a classic message that provides evidence for the reality of the resurrection, and we're going to just jump right in and listen as Josh McDowell presents compelling evidence for the reality of the resurrection of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJosh:\u00a0Now, there are a lot of theories around that show that the resurrection was a fraud, and I recommend you read every one of them.\u00a0 But, you know, I'm convinced of one thing \u2013 some people that came up to some of these theories must have had two brains.\u00a0 One was lost and the other was out looking for it.\u00a0 I'm serious.\u00a0 Almost every theory I've ever had any professor present to me calls for a greater miracle than the resurrection \u2013 if it was true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Now, the Bible said this took place.\u00a0 The truth of that, I don't care if you believe it or not.\u00a0 With the research I've done, I'm convinced \u2013 any man or woman that takes time to examine the evidence, they're going to have to consider what the Bible says because of the evidence supporting it in history.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Now, ladies and gentlemen, regardless if you try to say the disciples stole the body or what, there are certain documented facts of history that have to be dealt with.\u00a0 For example, number one \u2013 the breaking of the Roman seal.\u00a0 When that seal was broken, the FBI\/CIA of the Roman Empire was thrown into finding that man or men, and when they were found, it was automatic crucifixion upside down where your guts run into your throat.\u00a0 The disciples knew that.\u00a0 They were a bunch of cowards. They went and hid themselves in their own homes.\u00a0 The breaking of the Roman seal \u2013 it was feared by everyone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Second, every time somebody approached that tomb after the resurrection, an amazing statement was made in the Greek that's often lost in the English rendering.\u00a0 For example, Mark says that the stone was rolled up a slope \u2013 up a slope, and for him to use that verb, there had to be an incline coming down to the front of the tomb.\u00a0 Luke uses the same verb, but he added a different preposition \u2013 it means \"to roll something away from something else in the sense of distance.\"\u00a0 Now, they saw the stone roll away from \u2013 what would they roll away the stone from to steal the body?\u00a0 Say, \"The entrance.\"\u00a0 Right \u2013 from the entrance of the tomb, now that's logical.\u00a0 Well, on Sunday morning, the women were coming to the tomb.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I had a good question asked of me the other day.\u00a0 Why were the women coming to the tomb if the Roman guard unit was there and the stone was so big and the seal was placed on it?\u00a0 The answer is this \u2013 they did not know it had been sealed and the guard unit had been put there.\u00a0 Christ was crucified and buried Friday afternoon.\u00a0 The guard unit did not examine the body and seal it until probably about Saturday afternoon.\u00a0 The women lived in the suburb of Bethany.\u00a0 They didn't know about it.\u00a0 And so Mark records they were coming to the tomb, and they were saying to each other \"Who rolled away the stone from\" \u2013 and they used the Greek word, like you brought out, more or less \u2013 for the entrance of the tomb.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut when they got there, they said, \"Who rolled away the stone from the sense of distance, and they changed the Greek word from the \"entrance of the tomb,\" to the word for the entire massive sepulcher.\u00a0 In fact, that stone was in such a position \u2013 up the slope, away from the entire tomb \u2013 that John used an entirely different Greek verb.\u00a0 He used the Greek verb \"hairo\" in John 20, and according to the [inaudible] lexicons, it means \"to pick up something and to carry it away.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, men and women, if they just wanted to tiptoe in and steal the body, why all the effort to move a one-and-a-half to two-ton stone up a slope, away from the entire tomb, looking like it had been picked up and carried away?\u00a0 I can tell you one thing, that guard unit had to have cotton in their ears with earmuffs on not to have heard that one.\u00a0 That would have been recorded on the Richter scale at Cal Tech.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then you've got this problem \u2013 the guard unit.\u00a0 I'll tell you why nobody believed they fell asleep.\u00a0 Check out Philidias [ph], even better, Justin, his digest number 49, lists 18 things that a guard unit was put to death for.\u00a0 And what is interesting, they're disciplined.\u00a0 If the guard unit failed always one person was executed, and if they didn't know who it was that was the culprit, they cast lots, and whoever drew the lot was killed.\u00a0 One way they were killed, they were stripped of their clothes and burned alive in a fire started with their own garments.\u00a0 Not one of them had fallen asleep.\u00a0 They'd been up all night beating each other over the head not to lose it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then you've got this problem \u2013 the tomb wasn't empty.\u00a0 You say, \"Yes, it was.\"\u00a0 No it wasn't.\u00a0 You say, \"It was, too.\"\u00a0 It was not!\u00a0 The tomb was not empty.\u00a0 Look, the women panicked.\u00a0 You would, too.\u00a0 And they ran back and told the men.\u00a0 And Peter and John ran to the tomb.\u00a0 Now, John got there first.\u00a0 For one, he was younger, plus he probably played a lot more tennis.\u00a0 But he got there first.\u00a0 Now, he didn't go in.\u00a0 It says he leaned over \u2013remember the entrance \u2013 he leaned over, and he looked in.\u00a0 And he looked over where the body of Christ had been placed, and there were the grave clothes.\u00a0 Headpiece where the head was, body piece where the body was that caved in a little, and empty.\u00a0 The body of Christ had passed right through it into a new existence.\u00a0 Let's face it, that would sort of make you a hotshot believer at least for the moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMen and women, if Jesus didn't die then, when did He die?\u00a0 Why doesn't history have no record of anyone after the resurrection going back to pay homage to their great leader?\u00a0 Very simple \u2013 who wants to worship an empty tomb?\u00a0 Only tourists do that today.\u00a0 You say, \"Wait a minute, Josh, the Romans or the Jews took the body.\"\u00a0 Why would they do that?\u00a0 \"Well, that's simple, McDowell, they put it in a safe place so there wouldn't be any deception.\"\u00a0 That sounds pretty good unless you want to think.\u00a0 Why would they do the very thing that would cause all their problems?\u00a0 Men and women, the disciples did not trip off to Athens or Rome to do their preaching.\u00a0 Look, they went right back to the city of Jerusalem, the most difficult place on the face of the earth to convince anyone of the resurrection if that tomb wasn't empty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLook, a 15-minute walk by a Jerusalite secretary on her lunch break, eating yogurt, could confirm the emptiness of the tomb.\u00a0 Now, if the Romans and the Jews had the body, why didn't they just speak up and say, \"Hey, we moved it.\"\u00a0 If that didn't suffice say, \"Look, we put it over here,\" and show them the Beacon storage slip.\u00a0 If that wasn't enough, why didn't they take the body and put it in the carriage and march it right down through the center of Jerusalem?\u00a0 Let me tell you, they'd have killed Christianity not in the cradle but in the womb.\u00a0 There wouldn't have been any Christianity.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, a lot of people never realized the Christian faith is a bodiless faith.\u00a0 If there would have been a body, there would never have been a Christianity.\u00a0 A Muslim student at the University of Uruguay said to me \u2013 we were kind of joking around with a lot of truth behind it, and he said, \"You poor Christians.\" He said, \"You don't know where you're going.\"\u00a0 He said, \"We go to the tomb of our Master, we have his body.\u00a0 You go to the tomb, and your Master, and it's\" \u2013 I said, \"Go ahead and say it \u2013 it's empty.\"\u00a0 Oh, I'd love to have had a Polaroid, because there's one Muslim student that was realizing a most significant historical fact \u2013 the tomb was empty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, look at the family of Jesus.\u00a0 Now, don't tell me He didn't have any brothers and sisters.\u00a0 Not only is it recorded in the Gospels, but Flavius Josephus, the Jewish historian, in his antiquities records the death of James, the brother of the one called Jesus.\u00a0 Now, when Jesus was alive, did His brothers and sisters believe in Him, did they?\u00a0 No.\u00a0 They thought He was a lunatic.\u00a0 They thought He was deranged, going around saying, \"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light.\u00a0 No one cometh unto the Father but by me.\u00a0 I am the Shepherd you are the sheep.\u00a0 I am the vine, you are the branches.\"\u00a0 What would you do if your brother did that?\u00a0 It's the same thing.\u00a0 They laughed, and they mocked at him.\u00a0 In fact, they were embarrassed.\u00a0 They said, \"Look, Jesus, do you want people to believe in you?\u00a0 Why don't you go up to Jerusalem?\"\u00a0 But where do you find those hardest to convince his own family?\u00a0 After their brother went to that heinous death on the cross being cursed of God and was buried, you find those hardest to convince in the upper room in a matter of days were the disciples waiting for the Holy Spirit to descend.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMen and women, if while He was alive, they laughed and mocked at him, and he went through that horrible, degrading death on the cross and was buried, what in the world happened that turned their lives upside down, they became followers of their own brothers, and most of them became martyrs.\u00a0 James \u2013 I mean, you found him with the Pharisees not with the Christians.\u00a0 He became a leader of the Jerusalem church, and he writes an Epistle \u2013 I, James, the servant of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, his brother.\u00a0 The only answer I know to that that makes any sense is 1 Corinthians 15 \u2013 \"Then he appeared unto James, his brother, the resurrection.\u00a0 Jesus Christ is alive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact you might say the one speaking tonight is evidence that Jesus Christ is raised from the dead, and that same power is available to every man and woman in this convention center.\u00a0 Let me show you what I mean.\u00a0 Let me bring it right down to where we live.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA few years ago my life was described by Thomas Aquinas, and he said there is within every soul a restless thirst for happiness and meaning.\u00a0 I wanted to be happy and didn't want to be.\u00a0 I wanted to be one of the happiest individuals in the whole world, and I couldn't see anything wrong with that.\u00a0 I was on the back of a motor scooter with a businessman in Newport Beach, and we were riding along, and we were laughing and having a good time.\u00a0 I enjoy life.\u00a0 I love to laugh.\u00a0 It's one reason why my physician said I don't have ulcers.\u00a0 He said I laugh a lot plus I tell people exactly what I think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we were riding along, laughing and telling ourselves what we thought, and these two women pulled up in a brand-new Continental, and for three blocks at about 17-20 miles an hour, they just rode alongside staring at us.\u00a0 Well, after about three blocks, the lady on the passenger side rolled down her window, and she yelled out and said, \"What right do you have to be so happy.\"\u00a0 Rolled up the window and drove on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, I wanted to be happy, and more than that, I wanted the answers to these three questions \u2013 who am I?\u00a0 What am I here?\u00a0 Where am I going?\u00a0 I wanted to be free.\u00a0 Freedom is not doing what you want to do, it's doing what you know you ought to do.\u00a0 So I started looking for answers.\u00a0 Where I was brought up, everybody had religion.\u00a0 So I took off for church.\u00a0 I think I must have found the wrong church.\u00a0 In spite of what the pastor said, I still believe in God.\u00a0 But I felt worse inside than I did outside.\u00a0 So I thought, \"Well, maybe education is the answer.\"\u00a0 So I went and enrolled in a university.\u00a0 What a disappointment.\u00a0 I used to buttonhole my faculty in their offices.\u00a0 I'm sure some of them used to turn the lights off and pull the shades when they saw me coming.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDr. Sheldon, my economic theory professor, he could tell me how to make a better living, but my faculty could not tell me how to live better, and that's where they let me down.\u00a0 Then I tried student leadership, political offices, got elected.\u00a0 But it seemed like every Monday morning I woke up the same individual, usually with a headache because of the night before, and the attitude, \"Well, here goes another five days.\"\u00a0 I sort of endured, Monday through Friday.\u00a0 Happiness evolved around three nights a week, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and then I went out and started the vicious cycle all over again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAbout that time, I became frustrated, not desperate, but I was frustrated, because there weren't very many people in the universities of this country more sincere in trying to find meaning and truth and purpose to life than I was, and I hadn't found it.\u00a0 About that time I was very fortunate.\u00a0 In and around the university, I saw a small group of people.\u00a0 There weren't very many.\u00a0 There were eight students and two faculty members.\u00a0 There was something different about their lives.\u00a0 They seemed to know where they were going in life.\u00a0 That's unusual today.\u00a0 But they not only seemed to know where they were going, they had something else that I admire \u2013 these men and women seemed to have convictions.\u00a0 In other words, they seemed to know why they believed what they believed and, oh, I enjoy people like that.\u00a0 I don't care if they agree with me or not.\u00a0 They didn't talk about love, they got involved in people's lives.\u00a0 They had something I didn't have, and I wanted it, so I made friends with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAfter a couple of weeks, we were seated around a table in the Student Union.\u00a0 Six of the students were there, two of the faculty, and one of their wives, I think.\u00a0 I wish you could have been there.\u00a0 The conversation after about 30 minutes started to get to God.\u00a0 Well, let's face it, if you are an insecure student or insecure professor or businessman or woman, the conversation gets to God, you have to put on the big front \u2013 hey, every university, every community, every block, every office has the big mouth.\u00a0 You know, the person that says, \"Oh, Christianity, hah!\u00a0 That's for the weak.\u00a0 It's not intellectual.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know what I found to be true \u2013 the bigger the mouth, the greater the vacuum.\u00a0 The bigger the front they put on, the greater the emptiness on the inside.\u00a0 Well, I wanted what they had, but I didn't want them to know that I wanted what they had, but all the time they knew I wanted what they had and didn't want them to know that I wanted what they had.\u00a0 So I did what some of you have done when you've been anxious for something but didn't want to appear it.\u00a0 So I leaned back in my chair and just with a flippant attitude almost, I just looked over at this young lady, and she was a good-looking woman \u2013 I used to think all Christians were ugly \u2013 I'm sorry, but I figured if you couldn't make it anywhere else you became a Christian.\u00a0 But she was really cute, and that sort of threw me for a loop, because it wasn't what I had anticipated.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo I looked over, and I just said, \"Tell me, what changed your life?\u00a0 Why are you so different from the other students, the faculty?\u00a0 What happened?\"\u00a0 I couldn't believe her \u2013 she looked back at me with a little smile, and that can be irritating.\u00a0 And she just said two words I never thought I'd hear in university as part of the solution.\u00a0 She looked back and said, \"Jesus Christ.\"\u00a0 I said, \"Oh, for heaven's sakes, don't give me that garbage.\"\u00a0 I said, \"I'm fed up with religion, the church, the Bible, don't give me any of that garbage about religion.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll I know is, she had a lot of courage and a lot of convictions.\u00a0 In fact, I think she had both.\u00a0 She shot me back eye-to-eye, and she said, \"Mister, I didn't tell you religion.\u00a0 I told you the person of Jesus Christ.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, I apologized to her.\u00a0 I said, \"Please forgive me for my attitude,\" but I said, \"I have had so many poor experiences with religion and religious people, I don't want anything to do with it.\"\u00a0 Do you know what happened then?\u00a0 I couldn't believe it, I thought it was a joke.\u00a0 Right there in the university, they challenged me to intellectually examine the claims that Jesus Christ is God's Son.\u00a0 I mean, they got personal.\u00a0 God, Yahweh, took on human flesh, death on the cross of the sins of mankind, His burial, His literal resurrection the third day, and then they said His ability to change a man and woman's life in the 20th century.\u00a0 I thought it was a farce.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut they kept challenging me over and over and over again, so I accepted their challenge, and I did it to refute them.\u00a0 In fact, the whole background of my first seven bestsellers was to write a book against Christianity.\u00a0 I figured any fool could do that, and I'd qualify.\u00a0 And so I set out for two years and spent a lot of money and a lot time, and it backfired.\u00a0 After two years, I became convinced that Jesus Christ had to be who He claimed to be.\u00a0 I went through quite a struggle, because my mind told me this was true, and my will was way over here.\u00a0 Because I found out becoming a Christian was a rather ego-shattering experience.\u00a0 Christ says, \"I stand at the door and knock.\u00a0 If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI used to think going to church made you a Christian.\u00a0 Going to church doesn't anymore make you a Christian than walking into the garage makes you a car.\u00a0 It doesn't work that way.\u00a0 A Christian is somebody that exercises his will and places his trust in Christ as Savior and Lord.\u00a0 Well, finally, my mind told me one thing and my will the other thing, and every time I was around those cotton-pickin' Christians, that conflict used to go just like that.\u00a0 Have you ever been around happy people, and you're miserable?\u00a0 So I knew I had to get it off my mind.\u00a0 So December the 19th, 1959, at 8:30 at night, the second year in university, I put it to the test, and I became a Christian.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSomebody said, \"How do you know?\"\u00a0 I said, \"I was there.\"\u00a0 I got alone with a friend of mine by the name of Jerry.\u00a0 He made sure my other friends weren't watching.\u00a0 I was a coward.\u00a0 And I got with a friend of mine and prayed four things that established a relationship with the resurrected Christ that literally transformed my life.\u00a0 I said, \"Lord Jesus, thank you for dying on that cross for me.\"\u00a0 I realized if I'd been the only person in the whole world, Christ still would have died for me.\u00a0 It's hard to understand that kind of love.\u00a0 But now that I just have an absolutely gorgeous wife, two darling daughters, Katie and Kelly, and a precocious son, Sean, I can understand this type of love a lot more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe second, I said, \"I confess there's things in my life unpleasing to You, and I ask You to forgive me.\"\u00a0 Third, I said, \"Right now, the best way I know how, I trust you as Savior and Lord.\u00a0 Take over the throne of my life.\u00a0 Change me from the inside out.\"\u00a0 The last thing I prayed was just \"Thank you for coming into my life by faith.\"\u00a0 Not faith based upon ignorance, faith based upon God's work and evidence of the facts of history.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Well, that's part 2 of a message from Josh McDowell on the evidence for the resurrection, and it's not just historical evidence but, for Josh, it's personal evidence that has a personal implication.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0And we've aired this because we want you to know the same Jesus Christ who rose from the dead on that Easter morning.\u00a0 He is alive, the tomb is empty, and you can pray the same four things that Josh McDowell did.\u00a0 Number one, thank you for dying on the cross for me; number 2, I confess my sins, and I ask for Your forgiveness, God; number 3, I trust You, I believe in You, I cling to You as my Savior and Lord.\u00a0 Take over the throne of my life; and, number 4, I thank you, God, for coming into my life by faith based upon Your Word and what Josh has presented here \u2013 the facts of history.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0You know, we're not talking about some kind of object that you place your faith in that is not personal.\u00a0 It's not a chair that you're placing your faith in, it's a person.\u00a0 The person of the Lord and Master, Jesus Christ.\u00a0 He makes an offer to you to give you eternal life, to forgive your sins.\u00a0 He offers to come into your life and make you a new creation, to give you purpose and meaning, and to give you His Holy Spirit.\u00a0 I would just encourage you, if you have never made that decision, if you've been on the outside of the church and of Christianity looking in, now is the day, and if you've been on the inside of the church and have been religious with the best of them but have never made this commitment, now is the day for you as well.\u00a0 Simply take Christ at His Word and pray these four things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Jesus has been revolutionizing lives like Josh's life, like your life, like my life, for the last 2,000 years, and that offer, that opportunity to revolutionize your life is still valid.\u00a0 If you want to find out more about what it means to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, contact us, and we'll send you a free book \u2013 no obligation, no cost.\u00a0 It's called \"Pursuing God,\" and it lays out the claims of Christ, the fact of our need for Him, and the reality of what He did to make a relationship with God possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Again, the title of the book is \"Pursuing God.\"\u00a0 You can request one at no cost when you call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 There is also information about the book available on our website, and we're hoping this weekend that more than 1 million children will hear the message of Easter, the story of Jesus' death, His burial, and His resurrection in the World's Largest Neighborhood Easter Egg Hunt.\u00a0 I know many of you are planning to host one of these Easter egg hunts in your backyard or in a neighborhood park or at a local church.\u00a0 If there is still anything you need to make this event successful, get in touch with us here at FamilyLife or stop by your local Family Christian Store.\u00a0 They are the Neighborhood Easter Egg Hunt headquarters, and if you need a set of Resurrection Eggs for this weekend, you will find those at Family Christian Stores, also at Wal-Mart stores all across the country, and we're anxious to hear how your hunt goes in your neighborhood when it's all over this weekend.\u00a0 So drop us a note and let us know how everything went, will you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And, finally, when you do get in touch with us, if you are able to help with a donation for the ministry of FamilyLife Today, that's what makes this radio ministry possible, and if God is using it in your life, we'd like to ask you to consider making a donation, either online on FamilyLife.com or by calling 1-800-FLTODAY and partnering with us in this endeavor to provide practical, biblical help for your marriage and for your family so that together we can have an impact on this culture as our families are changed, one home at a time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Again, you can make a donation online at FamilyLife.com or you can call 1-800-FLTODAY to make donation.\u00a0 All contributions are tax-deductible, and we hope to hear from you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0Well, tomorrow we're going to talk about how the reality of the resurrection ought to cause all of us to live with an eternal perspective.\u00a0 I hope you can be back for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We'll see you tomorrow for another edition of FamilyLife Today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0FamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas, a 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