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Christ.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2004-06-14.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>Steve:\u00a0We have, in America, what I call \"drifting families.\"\u00a0 Drifting families have no leadership; they have no direction.\u00a0 Where did I come up with the term \"anchor man?\"\u00a0 Every family needs a man somewhere in their family chain who is anchored on Jesus Christ.\u00a0 When a guy gets anchored on Christ, you stop the drifting in a family, even if it's been there for 10 generations.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0This is FamilyLife Today for Monday, June 14th.\u00a0 Our host is the president of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 As a husband and as a dad, how can you make sure that your family is anchored in Christ?\u00a0 And welcome to FamilyLife Today.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us on the Monday edition \u2013 and that is really the question.\u00a0 What can we do, as dads, to see to it that our families, our children, are firmly anchored in a relationship with Christ and to see that extend for multiple generations?\u00a0 If somebody can help us with that, I think all of us are ready to listen.\u00a0 That fulfills what the Bible says in 3 John, verse 4, when it says, \"I have no greater joy than this, to know that my children are walking in the truth.\"<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0You know, Proverbs 27:17 says, \"Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.\"\u00a0 I can almost hear the grinder starting up right now, because we've got a guest on the broadcast (grinder noise).<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0There it is, there it is.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0Here's the grinder.\u00a0 There's going to be a little grinding take place.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0A little iron-sharpening happening.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0You know, before I introduce our guest on the broadcast, Steve Farrar, I want to tell a story that happened back at Promise Keepers in Houston where I spoke several months ago.\u00a0 After I had spoken, they do television interviews afterwards, and a TV camera was stuck in my face from CBS, and they said, \"Outside there are women who are picketing this event here at the Astrodome\" \u2013 40,00 men inside, a dozen women or so, maybe 30, outside, who were really ragging on the Promise Keeper about their stand about men and taking advantage of women, and I just looked at that glass camera in the eye and said, \"You know, it baffles me how any woman could criticize an organization that is calling men to be responsible men.\"\u00a0 I said, \"Up front, just to the left of where I spoke, was seated more than 30 prisoners dressed in white who were given the day off so that they could come to Promise Keepers for the entire session today and experience this time of worship and praise.\"\u00a0 And if you went up and interviewed them, you would find that most of those men are incarcerated, they are in prison, because most of them never had a daddy.\u00a0 They didn't have a man in their lives who could shape their character, love them, hug them, weep with them.\u00a0 In fact, many of them never saw their father, never met their father, and that's why they ended up in jail.\u00a0 I said, \"It baffles me why you would criticize and organization that is calling men back to their primary responsibility to serve and love their wives and to spiritually shepherd the next generation of young people.\"<\/p>\n<p>Well, that's the passion that our guest on the broadcast today, Steve Farrar, has.\u00a0 Steve, welcome to FamilyLife Today.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Thanks, Dennis, it's great to be with you.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0Steve and his wife Mary, for a number of years, served on our FamilyLife marriage conference speaker team, Bob.\u00a0 That was before you joined the speaker team but way back there before the earth's crust hardened.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0I've seen the pictures of that young Steve and Mary and that young Dennis and Barbara.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0You know, he really hasn't changed.\u00a0 I have, but Steve hasn't changed.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Right, only 40 pounds.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0Many of our listeners know Steve from his bestselling book, \"Point Man \u2013 How a Man Can Lead His Family,\" which he authored back in 1990.\u00a0 Steve, I can't believe that book has been out that long, and yet it still is a great book for men to know how to lead their family and how to do it practically.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0You know, Dennis, we're sitting here in Little Rock, and I remember writing that book upstairs in my bedroom about two miles from here \u2013 nine years ago \u2013 10 years ago, now.\u00a0 That's just remarkable how God \u2013 what God does, and I think half that stuff was your material I borrowed, now that I come to think of it.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0Well, Steve is the founder and chairman of Men's Leadership Ministries, which is based in College Station, Texas.\u00a0 Tell us just a little bit about that ministry, Steve.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Well, it really came out of writing the book, \"Point Man,\" because back in 1990, Dennis, I started getting calls.\u00a0 In fact, the first year \"Point Man\" was out, I didn't count them, but somewhere between 300 to 400 calls \u2013 \"Hey, could you come and talk to our men about being spiritual leaders of their families?\"\u00a0 So, really, that's the heartbeat of our ministry, is not to tell men that they should lead but to try to show them how to lead.\u00a0 I have found, as you, you know, the FamilyLife conferences \u2013 guys want to lead.\u00a0 I mean, I really think they have a desire.\u00a0 But if they have never seen it \u2013 if someone were to come and say, \"Hey, Bob and Dennis and Steve, we need some guys to go to London \u2013 the cricket team, the United States Cricket Team has gotten hurt.\u00a0 We'll pay all your expenses.\u00a0 You can take your wives.\"<\/p>\n<p>Well, we might go, but I don't know about you, but I wouldn't have a clue.\u00a0 I wouldn't know where to put on the pads, does that go on my head?\u00a0 You know, do you run left?\u00a0 I've never seen cricket, and I think spiritual leadership is the same thing.\u00a0 A lot of guys have never seen it.\u00a0 So that's what we're trying to do is just try and give them a model.\u00a0 So \u2013 and let them know, \"Listen, this is doable stuff, and it's all in the Scripture.\"\u00a0 That's really the heartbeat of what we're trying to do.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0There are a lot of our listeners who are men but more than 50 percent of our listeners are women, and I know it's on the minds of a lot of our women listeners is all this work of the men's movement truly a work of God and is there hope for women that men will finally come home and love them and lead them?<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0You know, Dennis, there has to be hope.\u00a0 I think because this whole thing, it comes from God.\u00a0 There has never been anything like this in history, because I think when all else fails, read the direction \u2013 God wants men to lead the family.\u00a0 He wants men to lead the church.\u00a0 So I think this whole thing was started by God.\u00a0 It took a lot of us by surprise, but I think God always has His men, I think He's got a remnant, and I think it's stronger than it was 10 years ago.\u00a0 And some folks have said to me, \"Well, you know, the crowds aren't as big in some places.\"\u00a0 Well, that may not be.\u00a0 But crowds have never been the issue.\u00a0 I mean, Gideon had too many men.\u00a0 It's the quality of men, and that's what encourages me, because as I go around the country, as you guys do, I see men that are sold out and are making right choices and guys who are at different points in their maturity. But, man, I'm encouraged.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0You've written a book called \"Anchor Man,\" and in this book, Steve, you outline some of those changes that are occurring in men, and you outline those changes around the Ten Commandments.\u00a0 And, Bob, I enjoyed reading this because I think it reminds us that there is change occurring in the hearts of men, especially when they're confronted with the truth of Scripture.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0You know, Dennis, I think the Ten Commandments really was the benchmark of the Old Testament, and here's what I was seeing \u2013 I began to realize I'm running into men all over the country who will have no other gods before them.\u00a0 I'm running into guys who will not make graven images.\u00a0 They're done with idolatry.\u00a0 They're going to love the Lord their God with all their heart and soul and mind.\u00a0\u00a0 I'm running into men who will not take His name in vain.\u00a0 I'm running into a lot of guys who are motivated at work but not so motivated that they won't take one day off, at least, because He's commanded that we do that.\u00a0 I'm running into men that honor their fathers and their mothers; are helping to take care of them as they reach retirement age.\u00a0 I'm running into men that will have nothing to do with murder, whether it's literal murder or the assassination of somebody's character behind their back.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0Or whether it's encouraging your spouse to take the life of an unborn child.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0And that's one of the great, great sins of this nation.\u00a0 But God has never, never supported the taking of human life.\u00a0 In the Old Testament, the Canaanites, they were known for sacrificing children.\u00a0 But there is a whole movement of men that stand against that and put themselves on the line.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0And real men protect human life.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Yes, they do.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0They are protectors of life.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Yes, and let me say something to you gals, because some of you have boys, and little boys are so different.\u00a0 Don't instill in your boys a fear of getting hurt, because you can overdo that as a mom.\u00a0 God wants boys raised so that they won't be afraid of getting hurt, because they are to be sacrificial.\u00a0 Now, I'm not saying let them do things that are crazy or jump off a 40-foot oak tree, but I'm saying you have to be careful because that young boy needs to grow up to be a sacrificial husband and a sacrificial father and a sacrificial leader, and if he's not willing to get hurt, he can't be the protector.\u00a0 That's what protectors do.\u00a0 Protectors are willing to get hurt for the people that they love.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0Preach it.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0I love this one \u2013 I'm running into guys who will not commit adultery, even though everybody around them is saying it's okay.\u00a0 Dennis, have you noticed that peer pressure didn't quit when we got out of high school?\u00a0 It's everywhere.\u00a0 There are guys that say, \"No, I'm not going to do that.\u00a0 I'm not going to touch pornography, because I've made a commitment.\u00a0 I'm going to be a one-woman kind of man.\"\u00a0 I'm running into guys that will not steal time, they won't steal things, they won't steal taxes, they won't steal possessions \u2013 God's behind that.\u00a0 I'm running into men all over the country who won't bear false witness.\u00a0 They tell the truth.\u00a0 They don't spin the truth.<\/p>\n<p>Mark Twain said if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.\u00a0 I'm also running into men who will not covet but who are learning to be content and thankful and not be men who complain but be overwhelmed with the blessing that God has given them in their lives on a daily basis.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0Those are men who are being transformed by the Gospel.\u00a0 That's what the work of the Gospel is, isn't it?<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0You know, Romans 12:1 and 2 talks about not being conformed to the world, and it's almost like at every point, Steve, you were contrasting the way a worldly man thinks and behaves with the godly man and the right, wise choices that he makes.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Right.\u00a0 Psalm 1 talks about the godly man \u2013 \"How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the ungodly,\" and it gives about four or five descriptions, and then the next line it says, \"The wicked are not so.\"\u00a0 Everything that is true of the godly man, the opposite is true of the man who isn't.<\/p>\n<p>And, you know, I think that's part of what God is doing.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0You know, I remember the first time I saw, on the cover of your book, that statement \u2013 that a man can anchor his family in Christ for the next 100 years.\"\u00a0 And I thought, \"For real?\"\u00a0 I mean, that's what we all hope for and all desire, but our kids \u2013 they're free moral agents.\u00a0 They're going to make their own choices.\u00a0 What can I do, as a man \u2013 what are you talking about with this whole concept of being an anchor man?<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Well, the anchor man came out of Deuteronomy 6, which, personally, I think is the Great Commission of the Old Testament.\u00a0 Deuteronomy was written to the men of Israel, and in Deuteronomy 6 he says, \"This is the commandment\" \u2013 the judgments \u2013 \"which the Lord your God has commanded me\" \u2013 this is Moses talking \u2013 \"to teach you so that you might do them in the land where you are going over to possess.\"\u00a0 They're getting read to go into the Promised Land.\u00a0 And then he says this \u2013 \"So that you and your son and your grandson might fear the Lord.\"<\/p>\n<p>I've got three teenagers at home.\u00a0 Actually, Rachel has gone to college in California, so I've got the two boys at home.\u00a0 I think most of us think our job is to raise these kids today.\u00a0 But according to Deuteronomy, I think what we're seeing there, it's not just my boys but it's their boys \u2013 it's you and your son and your grandson.\u00a0 And what I got to thinking about was, you know, we all have genealogies.\u00a0 We don't tend to think of them like this because all of us, we don't know our genealogy except for maybe a few previous generations.\u00a0 A genealogy is a chain, it's a very, very long chain.<\/p>\n<p>When I was seven, my dad and I toured the USS Shangri-La, which was the biggest aircraft carrier in the world at that time.\u00a0 The flight deck \u2013 it was docked in San Diego Bay \u2013 the flight deck was four-and-a-half acres, 6,000 men.\u00a0 We pulled up alongside that gigantic ship; a huge chain is coming out the side.\u00a0 And later I did research on what it takes to anchor an aircraft carrier.\u00a0 That chain is longer than four-and-a-half football fields.\u00a0 That chain, by itself, weighs over 675,000 pounds.\u00a0 At the end of that chain is an anchor that weighs 60,000 pounds, and there are two of them.<\/p>\n<p>A genealogy is a family chain.\u00a0 We have in America what I call \"drifting families.\"\u00a0 Why do they anchor that aircraft carrier in San Diego Bay?\u00a0 They don't want it drifting.\u00a0 Drifting aircraft carriers do a lot of damage.\u00a0 Drifting families do all kinds of damage.\u00a0 Drifting families have no leadership; they have no direction.\u00a0 Where did I come up with the term anchor man?\u00a0 Every family needs a man somewhere in their family chain who is anchored on Jesus Christ.\u00a0 When a guy gets anchored on Christ, you stop the drifting in a family, even if it's been there for 10 generations.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0I've got to read something from your book at this point that you said \u2013 you said, \"Every family chain, in order to survive and raise godly children, must somewhere have a man who has a godly vision, not only for his own children but for the children of the generations to come.\u00a0 The fact of the matter is,\" you say, \"one man with vision who is anchored in Christ can influence his family and the generations to come for hundreds of years.\"<\/p>\n<p>Now, Bob, that really is true.\u00a0 I think we underestimate the power of a man today, and I think one of the great strategies of the devil is to whisper in a man's ear, \"You don't matter.\u00a0 It doesn't matter if you make a wrong choice.\u00a0 It doesn't matter if you divorce her.\u00a0 It doesn't matter if you commit adultery.\u00a0 It doesn't matter if you steal.\"\u00a0 The reality is, every one of those choices is a link in that chain that Steve is talking about.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0Well, and, Steve, that's why the Bible says to us that the sins of fathers are visited on the next generation.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0It does, and we're all very aware of that, but we tend not to be as aware of Deuteronomy 7, verse 9, that says this \u2013 know, therefore, that the Lord your God, he is God, the faithful God who keeps His covenant and His loving kindness\" \u2013 now this is what I love \u2013 \"to a thousandth generation.\"\u00a0 Man, is that compound interest or what?<\/p>\n<p>And oftentimes, you know, in the conferences we do, I'll have a guy say, \"Well, Steve, wait a minute.\u00a0 You're telling me I'm supposed to lead my family, anchor my family, for 100 years?\"\u00a0 Well, when you take you and your son and your grandson \u2013 on a timeline, you've got 100 years.\u00a0 I don't have grandkids, but one day we will have grandkids, if the Lord doesn't return.<\/p>\n<p>Now, in 100 years will I know who those kids are, those grandkids or those great-grandkids?\u00a0 No, I probably won't.\u00a0 But you know what?\u00a0 They should know who I was.\u00a0 They should know who you were.\u00a0 Not because we left them a lot of money or because we're so smart, but because of our love for Christ; because we hung in there; because we finished strong.<\/p>\n<p>You see,\u00a0 I really believe that God wants to bless us so that in 100 years we're not looking to be legends, but you know what?\u00a0 We need some legends.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0We sure do.\u00a0 You think of what's happening today in the press and media attacking heroes and, as a boy, I remember feeding off my heroes, and I had some guys, some sports heroes, war heroes, even political heroes that anchored me as a young man but none more powerful than Hook Rainey, my dad.\u00a0 His nickname was \"Hook,\" because he had a real wicked curve ball, okay?\u00a0 It wasn't evil, but the batters thought it was.\u00a0 But he was a good man and you know what?\u00a0 I still live off the legacy of Hook Rainey, who was a man of integrity.<\/p>\n<p>If I would have had a father who didn't have integrity, I don't know that I could be loving and leading my wife, because what is a commitment to your wife but that of integrity.\u00a0 It's making good on a promise, living up to that commitment.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0You know, I would \u2013 I sit here today thinking about my five kids and the fact that it's likely that some of those five kids are going to have kids of their own, my grandchildren, and that that may go even beyond to the next generation, and I'd love to think that every one of those kids and every one of those grandkids would be walking in the faith consistently throughout their lifetime.\u00a0 Yet I have heard one person describe what often happens, where you have a first generation that is faithful, a second generation that kind of hitchhikes off the first generation's Christianity, and the third generation apostatizes.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, so how do I be an anchor man and not fall into that trap?<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Yeah, Bruce Wilkinson is the guy that I heard come up with that and, quite frankly, no one has perfect kids.\u00a0 There are no perfect parents.\u00a0 We all go through stuff.\u00a0 We're all in the same boat.\u00a0 But there are times \u2013 we went through a time last year, about a six-month time, with one of my kids.\u00a0 And it was their tough time.\u00a0 I was not only praying for them, I was fasting for them.\u00a0 \"Lord, I don't have what it takes, I don't have the wisdom, I don't know what to do here.\"\u00a0 And what we're talking about here is spiritual warfare.\u00a0 I think we have some weapons at our disposal that, if we will utilize the weapons, if we will ask God \u2013 you have not because you ask not.\u00a0 Have we ever asked God for our grandchildren to all come to Christ?\u00a0 My question is \u2013 how many people have ever prayed that prayer?<\/p>\n<p>If we were to pray consistently, my feeling is, as I read Scripture, why would God not honor a request like that \u2013 that would bring glory to His name?\u00a0 I believe that.\u00a0 I believe we have a weapon that we have allowed to get dusty and to sit on the shelf, and we haven't used it.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0And, really, what you're talking about, Steve, is a lack of vision in men.\u00a0 We're not looking up to the horizon and thinking about the three-peat, and you've reminded us how to do that, and it begins with prayer.<\/p>\n<p>I'd like to add a couple to that, if I could, because, as we pray, I think, secondly, we need to live our lives \u2013 and you talk about this in your book \u2013 we need to live our lives in light of those three generations, and so that our model is worth being copied.\u00a0 And then a third, I think, is to challenge our children to pass on the reality of Christ in their lives to their children, and then to challenge their children to pass it on to their children.\u00a0 At that point, you have a relay race where the baton is being handed off to generation after generation.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0And, you know, I'd love to think, just as you talked about it \u2013 I'd love to think that two generations from now my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren would look back and say, \"You've heard, haven't you, about Grandpa Bob\" or about Great-Grandpa Bob?\u00a0 Not because I want the glory for me, but our families need an anchor, something they point back at and say, \"That's our legacy.\"\u00a0 That's powerful, isn't it?<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0You know, I was sitting here thinking, Dennis, we had a lunch, probably, 12 years ago, 13 years ago, and just chatting, and I remember you talking about postage stamps, and the issue was, you know, you had stamps in your desk for the ministry, but a personal letter you'd written or something \u2013 do you use the postage stamp that the ministry had bought for your personal letter?\u00a0 And that was the issue you were dealing with that day that came before you, and you didn't use the postage stamp \u2013 you got your own postage stamp.\u00a0 That's how you lead a family.\u00a0 How do I lead a family for 100 years?\u00a0 By following Christ with my whole heart today.\u00a0 That's how you do it.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0And, you know, every man today wants to know how you do that, practically.\u00a0 And that's where a book like \"Anchor Man\" is so powerful because it fills in the blanks, Bob.\u00a0 It's one thing to have that vision out on the horizon of three generations, that if a guy is left, to kind of scratch his head going, \"Hm, what does that look like?\u00a0 How do you get there?\"<\/p>\n<p>Well, Steve, I think, really does a great job in this book of illustrating this through other men's lives and showing us biblically how to get there from here.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0And, you know, it's hard, when you're in the thick of it, as a parent, to think that your children will ever rise up and call you blessed because right now they're just rising up and calling you \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0\u2026 calling you other things \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0\u2026 calling you crazy.<\/p>\n<p>Dennis:\u00a0I don't know what it is at your house, but it's mutiny at our house occasionally.<\/p>\n<p>Steve:\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Bob:\u00a0But, you know, it can happen, can't it?\u00a0 If you're faithful and you persevere as a dad, and you do the stuff you're supposed to do; you follow what Steve talks about in his book \"Anchor Man.\"\u00a0 You can lay a foundation; you can pour the cement that will hold your family in place spiritually for the next generation and for generations beyond that.<\/p>\n<p>We've got a limited number of copies of Steve's book \"Anchor Man\" available in our FamilyLife Resource Center along with a book that you wrote, Dennis, called \"Growing a Spiritually Strong Family,\" and if our listeners want to contact us to get both of these books, we will add, at no additional cost, the CD audios of our visit this week with Steve Farrar.\u00a0 You can ask for both books and the three CDs when you call 1-800-FLTODAY or go online at FamilyLife.com.\u00a0 Of course, you can order the book individually, if you'd like, as well.<\/p>\n<p>That's 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY \u2013 that's the number to call.\u00a0 Or go our website at FamilyLife.com for more information on how you can get either or both of these books and get the CD audio of this week's visit with Steve Farrar.\u00a0 And keep in mind that this coming Sunday is Father's Day, and that's one of the reasons we wanted to focus on this theme this week \u2013 to challenge dads to be the kinds of dads that God would call us to be.<\/p>\n<p>When you get in touch with us here at FamilyLife, if you are able to help with a donation, particularly here in the summer months, it is always a challenge for us in the summer.\u00a0 Folks get into other routines, other patterns and, for whatever reason, our donations go down during summer months, and yet our bills continue, month in and month out.\u00a0 The cost of providing these radio programs stays the same throughout the year.\u00a0 So if you are able to help with a donation here in the summer, we would appreciate it.\u00a0 You can donate online at FamilyLife.com, you can phone in a donation at 1-800-FLTODAY or if you want to write a check and mail it to us \u2013 if you've got a pencil \u2013 the address is Post Office Box 7111, Little Rock, Arkansas, and the zip code is 72223.\u00a0 Again, it's Box 7111, Little Rock, Arkansas, and our zip code is 72223.<\/p>\n<p>Well, tomorrow we're going to see if we can get some coaching tips from Coach Farrar on things we can do, some specific things we can be doing as dads, to make sure our sons and daughters are spiritually locked in for the next generation and beyond.\u00a0 I hope you can be back with us for that.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks today to our engineer, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We'll see you next time for another edition of FamilyLife Today.<\/p>\n<p>FamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas, a ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ.<\/p>\n<p>________________________________________________________________<\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, 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