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She shares what inspired her to give herself completely in obedience to God's word.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2018-09-19.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When a marriage has been devastated by infidelity and rejection \/ when a spouse walks out, putting that marriage back together again is no easy task. Here\u2019s Shauna Shanks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>In Hollywood, they make it look so easy, like, \u201cThis is the day, and this is the moment.\u201d But it was a hundred tiny little hard decisions that we made every single day. I can\u2019t even say that there was one day, where I was like, \u201cThis is the moment!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPeople would ask me, \u201cIs there a step-by-step thing that we can save our marriage or be healed?\u201d Sometimes, I just look at them and say: \u201cYou know what? I feel like the person in the New Testament, when Jesus healed his eyes\u201d\u2014right?\u2014like, \u201c\u2019How did He do that?\u2019 \u2018I don\u2019t know, but Jesus healed me.\u2019\u201d That\u2019s why I have so much faith in God and the Bible is real\u2014and that it\u2019s true\u2014because I know that I was beyond healing, and yet He healed me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, September 19<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. The Bible says that the same power that raised Jesus from the dead is available to us today to bring your marriage back from wherever it is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll hear more about that today from Shauna Shanks. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m just wondering, if a woman came to you and Barbara and said, \u201cHere\u2019s my story: My husband just sat me down and told me he is not attracted to me anymore; he doesn\u2019t want to stay married; he wants a divorce and he\u2019s done with the marriage; but he wants to keep living in our home,\u201d what counsel do you think you\u2019d give in that situation?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019d have to know more of the context; but I would say, \u201cLet\u2019s give this marriage every chance we can give to it to keep it alive, and perhaps see it redeemed, and to see <em>him<\/em> redeemed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think there are too many people who give up too soon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We have a culture\u2014unfortunately, within the church\u2014that has fostered, I think, too much of an easy get-out-of-your-covenant \u201ccommitment.\u201d The marriage covenant is not viewed with nearly the dignity, and nobility, and sacredness, and the fear of God that it ought to be, Bob; and this really causes it to be revealed when somebody gets into deep waters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and you understand how\u2014we see someone in pain or going through pain, ourselves\u2014we want the pain to stop; so we look at the option of divorce and say, \u201cMaybe this will cause the pain to stop.\u201d But oftentimes, people are approaching that choice too quickly\/too casually, as you said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve seen so many couples at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway, who were right there at the edge of divorce, thinking, \u201cThere\u2019s no hope left for us.\u201d After a couple of days, they say: \u201cThere is hope, and we can go home and apply the principles we\u2019ve learned. Our marriage can be different as a result of that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to quickly remind our listeners\u2014we have a special offer going on for <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>listeners this week. If you sign up to attend an upcoming getaway, you can save 50 percent off the regular registration fee; but we need to hear from you before the week is over. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to take advantage of this special half-price savings that we\u2019re making available this week. Before you give up on your marriage, come spend a weekend with us. Let us see if we can help you find a way back to the oneness that you were pursuing when you got married in the first place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, take advantage of the half-price offer and come spend a weekend with us. Let me just say\u2014this is not just for couples in distress. Most of the couples who come to a getaway are couples who are doing well in their marriage, and they just want to continue to pour a good foundation underneath their relationship. So, wherever you are, spend a weekend away this fall and build into your marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSign up this week to save 50 percent off the regular registration fee, and then come out and join us at a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I\u2019m glad that Shauna Shanks joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Shauna, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Thanks for telling your story this week. If listeners have missed the beginning part of this story, there are a couple of parts to it that are compelling\u2014just <em>great<\/em> lessons about living life in the midst of the hard thing. Shauna has written a book called <em>A Fierce Love: One Woman\u2019s Courageous Journey to Save Her Marriage<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob already talked about your husband coming to you shortly before your tenth anniversary\u2014you\u2019d had three children. A couple weeks later, he shares with you that, \u201cYes; there\u2019s another woman\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I\u2019m thinking to myself, at that point, my tendency would be to say: \u201cWell, you know what? You don\u2019t live here anymore. If those are the choices you\u2019re making, you have forfeited your right to have a bedroom back here.\u201d Did you have that thought?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t, actually, because my husband\u2014he had completely checked out of the marriage. He wasn\u2019t skirting around. After he told me that he had an affair, he was like, \u201cYou know, I want to go be with this other woman.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The affair was continuing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>It only happened a few times, so it was very short-lived; but then\u2014because, I think, of my reaction\u2014and how he just assumed that, when he came to me with this news that I would be like: \u201cOkay; this is, at this point, mutual. Get out,\u201d\u2014but when I <em>didn\u2019t<\/em> react that way, initially, it got worse before it got better in our home; because at that point, he had to assume the full guilt, because he wouldn\u2019t, at that point, be able to say: \u201cOkay; this is mutual. She kicked me out. Okay; now I have to leave.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>I wasn\u2019t giving him that. I said, \u201cYou know, you can do this\u2014you can leave\u2014but this is 100 percent <em>you<\/em>, because I\u2019m willing to fight for this marriage; and it is not mutual.\u201d I even told him, at one point, \u201cI\u2019m not going to sign divorce papers,\u201d because, when you divorce, it\u2019s then mutual. I said: \u201cThis is not. You can leave, but you leave knowing that this is completely your decision.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause of the way, I think, that I was reacting\u2014where I was trying to show kindness and really trying to show him grace, early on, after he told me about the affair\u2014he knew that he was doing wrong. He said: \u201cI want this marriage to work, but I don\u2019t know how. I\u2019m not attracted to you, and I don\u2019t know how to fake it. I don\u2019t <em>want<\/em> to be in this marriage, but I know that I should.\u201d It kind of put him in this place, where: \u201cI know that this is wrong. I want to honor God, and I <em>don\u2019t<\/em> know how.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That still had to hurt, though, when your husband\u2019s saying, \u201cOkay; I know I should be doing this out of obligation, but I\u2019m still not attracted to you.\u201d You have to be thinking, \u201cWhat\u2019s wrong with <em>me<\/em> here?\u201d\u2014right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Well, yes and no; because I was also kind of, honestly, feeling like, \u201cDo you think I want to be doing this stuff that I\u2019m doing?\u201d\u2014like: \u201cThis is work for me, too, pal. Do you think that I want to show you grace?\u2014because I don\u2019t.\u201d It was kind of like, \u201c<em>At least<\/em>, I can work with that,\u201d because when you start in obedience, kind of, then everything else is God\u2019s problem. If God doesn\u2019t return those feelings to him, how\u2019s he supposed to get them back? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the first step is obedience, and that\u2019s what I <em>always<\/em> will go back on. Everything else is God\u2019s problem; ours is obedience. Does that make sense?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; it sure does. In fact, you kept pressing him back against the significance of what he was doing. You gave something back to him, in November, to symbolically say something very powerful to him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>He was lying on the couch and just acting very nonchalant, you know, just like our marriage wasn\u2019t in crisis. He just wasn\u2019t <em>trying<\/em>, from my view; so I gave him the ring back\u2014I kind of tossed it at him, because I was frustrated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cYou know what? You\u2019re doing absolutely nothing to make this marriage work. I don\u2019t even know if you are being faithful right now.\u201d I said: \u201cAnd so this marriage just seems worthless for me to wear this ring, because I don\u2019t know where <em>you<\/em> are. If and when you are ready to give it back, and make a for-sure commitment to me, then give it back; but until then, I\u2019m going to keep doing what I feel like God\u2019s told me to do. That\u2019s how I\u2019ll know when you\u2019re ready\u2014is if you give me that ring back.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So what was the look on his face?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Literally indifference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He just continued being nonchalant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Yes; and you know, I have a story\u2014I wrote about this in the book, because one of the most powerful moments I have\u2014it was a God moment\u2014that I have is watching him lie on the couch one day. It was football season in Ohio, so everybody has the football game on. He\u2019s scrolling through social media, yelling at the TV, and just acting like\u2014like he just crushed me, you know?\u2014like our ten-year marriage was over was no big deal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I said, God had instructed me to be patient and kind; and so I wasn\u2019t saying out loud what I wanted to say. I grabbed my journal, and I started journaling. I said: \u201cYou know, he just acts blatantly indifferent. That\u2019s worse than anything. He\u2019s showing me no emotion. He\u2019s not putting any effort into this marriage; he is just acting like nothing is amiss.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a few days later that God brought me back to that journal entry. I opened it up and God kind of put my nose in that journal entry\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014He said: \u201cYou know what? You also stood at an altar and promised to love Me, and commit your life to <em>Me<\/em>, and to serve Me and be passionate about <em>Me<\/em>, and you are upset because your husband is failing to do that for <em>you<\/em>.\u201d I realized that my whole life of being a Christian had been so lukewarm\u2014I was like Micah, lying on the couch, you know, binge-watching on Netflix<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, just kind of going, \u201cLa-da-da,\u201d during the day; and I wasn\u2019t passionate for God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was giving me these lessons\u2014it was almost like an object lesson\u2014to see in my husband what I hated\u2014just saying, \u201cHow can I be mad at him when I\u2019m doing that to God?\u201d because, you know, when we\u2019re Christians, the Bible very much relates that to a marriage with God; so how can I be mad at him that he\u2019s passionless when I\u2019m being passionless?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I just want to affirm you for having ears to hear. I can\u2019t imagine what the pain would feel like of having your husband say: \u201cI don\u2019t love you. I\u2019m not attracted to you,\u201d then confess an affair. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s pretty amazing\u2014that you could hear the voice of God in the midst of the pain and make a decision to get off the fence and to turn in your lukewarm Christianity for the real thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>It\u2019s not that I\u2019m this special person, like, \u201cI hear God more than you, and I was so amazing that I could do these things.\u201d Honestly, if you read my book, I share some of my biggest failures\u2014that His strength is made perfect in <em>our<\/em> weakness. So yes, I was <em>very<\/em> weak\u2014I\u2019d lost my confidence \/ I\u2019d lost all these things\u2014but it\u2019s in His strength that we are able to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of my favorite stories of all time is Corrie Ten Boom\u2019s <em>The Hiding Place<\/em>. You know, this is a woman who survived the Holocaust\u2014really the only one in her family that survived. She saw the horrors of near starvation \/ her sister being beaten and abused. It was there\u2014in her weakness\u2014that God shined through. [She] and her sister, Betsy\u2014if you read the book\u2014they end up thanking God for fleas, because the fleas that were in their concentration camp bunker kept all the guards away; so they could host Bible studies. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s like, you know, I always want to encourage women that, when you\u2019re walking through these deep and dark times, where it looks like God has abandoned you, then pay attention\u2014ask Him, \u201cShow me where You are,\u201d because He will.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>It\u2019s not that I was able to react this way to my husband because \u201cI\u2019m so special and He gave me some special calling,\u201d\u2014no. It\u2019s when we reach out to God in our weakness, He is strong for us. I\u2019ve seen it so many times, you know. That\u2019s why I like to encourage women: \u201cWe are not like the world, where we are hopeless. We\u2019re not hopeless. He gives us hope.\u201d You know, it just increased my faith to know that He was with me in those times and gave me the ability to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When you tossed your wedding ring in his lap, while he\u2019s lying on the sofa, is that something you <em>thought<\/em> about doing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That was just an impulse of the moment?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>It was an impulse. My sister-in-law, Shannon\u2014she\u2019s one of the ladies I was talking about who walked that season with me\u2014I ran out the door \/ literally ran straight to her house. She was in the basement, making Christmas crafts like an elf\u2014[Laughter]\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014she\u2019s very crafty. She\u2019s like, \u201cWhat are you doing here?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cI think I just ruined everything! I threw my ring\u2026\u201d and blah-blah-blah. I\u2019m all worried. You know, she very much constantly had to be like: \u201cShauna, you are not ruining God\u2019s grand plan of whatever. You know, you do not have to be perfect. You are just trying to obey Him; you have not rattled God. He\u2019s God; He\u2019s spinning the planets right now. Whatever work that He\u2019s doing in Micah, you\u2019re not going to ruin that.\u201d Yes; I just went straight to her house, and she kind of made me feel better.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How long did you live without hope for your marriage?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Probably a couple of months I thought, \u201cOkay; this is not looking good.\u201d Like I said\u2014you know, my responses to my husband were out of obedience to God; but He never promised me that my marriage was going to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You\u2019re just trying to love him like the Bible tells you to love him; he\u2019s not responding\u2014this is going on for months.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Well, actually, this was November. My husband and I were having a good conversation again\u2014it was one of those rare moments where he was responding to me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI asked him if he would take me to California, back to San Francisco, for our ten-year wedding anniversary. And of course he\u2019s kind of like, \u201cWhy?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re kind of sly; aren\u2019t you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>I even said, \u201cYou know, if we get a divorce, it\u2019s going to cost you half of everything anyway; this is cheaper than that. We can do one last-ditch effort to save our marriage.\u201d [Laughter] To my shock, he got on the laptop and ordered the tickets that night. It was the <em>first<\/em> kind of hope that I felt like, \u201cWhy would he do that?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cThe iceberg is thawing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Well, <em>maybe<\/em>; because I still wasn\u2019t sure; but I thought, \u201cHe doesn\u2019t spend money willy-nilly,\u201d you know what I mean? We hadn\u2019t had a trip like that since we started having kids; so I thought, \u201cWell, that\u2019s something.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, when was that trip scheduled for?\u2014for November?\u2014for your anniversary?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>November 29<sup>th<\/sup>; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did either of you even <em>want<\/em> to go? I mean, you want to go to San Francisco; but like: \u201cYou sit up in the front of the plane. I\u2019ll sit in the back of the plane, because I\u2019m not traveling with you\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Well, I was deliriously and gloriously happy; because, you know, my mind always goes to Hollywood\u2014like: \u201cThis is it! This is going to be\u2026\u201d I don\u2019t know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cWe\u2019ll get back to the Golden Gate Bridge and he\u2019ll say, \u2018I\u2019ve been such a fool!\u2019\u201d\u2014right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Well, yes; pretty much. [Laughter] I\u2019m like: \u201cHe has my ring. He\u2019ll bring it; he\u2019ll re-propose, and maybe the naked man will come back.\u201d I don\u2019t know. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; there won\u2019t be a nude beach underneath the Golden Gate Bridge in November.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>No; that\u2019s true. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe had not even made it out of the airport; we were on the airplane. Like I said, I\u2019m sitting there, just blissfully happy. We ended up getting into\u2014I don\u2019t know if it was an argument, but he said something really hurtful on the plane. He didn\u2019t mean to hurt me; but he\u2019s just like, \u201cYou know, Shauna, we\u2019re doing this, but\u2026\u201d you know, trying not to give me hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just remember looking out the window and tears just started streaming down my face. I\u2019m just telling my <em>face<\/em>: \u201cStop it! Don\u2019t you <em>dare<\/em> let him see you crying,\u201d and faked listening, and I\u2019m crying. I remember that he put his hand and overturned it on my leg. I looked down, and his open hand was there. I\u2019m crying, and I reached over and I grabbed his hand. We\u2019re holding hands, crying, flying out of the airport in Columbus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was the beginning of our trip.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But I\u2019m guessing that there was no magic reconciliation under the golden bridge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>No; there wasn\u2019t. I mean\u2014and I kept thinking, \u201cToday\u2019s going to be the day that he re-proposes,\u201d and this and that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; he\u2019s going to give you the ring back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Yes; \u201cHe\u2019s going to do it, because we\u2019re here.\u201d We were getting along at that point. He\u2019d promised that he\u2019d completely broken off the affair. He was going back to church, and I saw him reading his Bible and things like that. I\u2019m <em>full<\/em> of fanatical hope.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we got back on the airplane to ride home, I had the same tears. I just kept thinking, \u201cI thought that this was going to be the week,\u201d and then it wasn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, when did you know that the veil had come down, and that he was letting you back into his life, and that you did have a chance of a relationship again?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Well, there were little nuggets that I do talk about in the book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cBread crumbs\u201d you call them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>I call them \u201cbread crumbs\u201d\u2014little things, where God was like: \u201cKeep going. You\u2019re going the right way; you\u2019re doing the right thing.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I remember, after we came back from our trip\u2014any mom knows, when you go on a trip without your kids, you have to get them back established in the routine of: \u201cMom\u2019s home. Cut it out,\u201d kind of thing. I remember my kids were running frantic in the kitchen. I was trying to get dinner on; and we were doing homework, and all the million things that I\u2019m doing. I didn\u2019t have makeup on\u2014I was frazzled\u2014my hair wasn\u2019t nice; I have applesauce on my legs from the kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere comes Micah, into the kitchen, with my ring. I saw it in his hand, and I thought: \u201cNo! Don\u2019t you dare give it to me like this!\u201d I wanted it to be perfect; I wanted it to be\u2014 you know, \u201cYou had opportunities to give it to me at the Golden Gate Bridge, where it would have been so like a fairytale.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cBut I wanted to give it to you in the <em>mess<\/em>, because this is what our daily life looks like; and I\u2019m saying, \u2018Yes,\u2019 to that,\u201d\u2014like anybody can love each other on vacation, you know, when you don\u2019t have all the things to deal with \/ all the responsibilities of home. He\u2019s like: \u201cI\u2019m saying, \u2018Yes,\u2019 to you; I\u2019m saying, \u2018Yes,\u2019 to the kids; I\u2019m saying, \u2018Yes,\u2019 to all the imperfections.\u201d That was kind of his re-proposal. I wish that I could say that I appreciated it, but I was pouting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was like, \u201cYou know, if you don\u2019t want this ring, I can take it back.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did he begin to invest in the marriage at that point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>He had agreed to go to marriage counseling with Shannon and John, and I do talk about them in the book. It was just <em>very<\/em> much instrumental in our healing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You were learning how to effectively communicate with one another\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Sure; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014how to resolve conflict the right way. I mean, these are skills that don\u2019t come naturally to us. Unless somebody helps us know how to do this, we can just be hurting one another, over and again, for years in a marriage relationship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Yes; absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So this was a period of months that you were going through counseling; and in your mind, was your marriage back together at this point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>In Hollywood, they make it look so easy\u2014like: \u201cThis is the day, and this is the moment,\u201d but it was a hundred tiny little hard decisions that we made every single day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can\u2019t even say that there was one day that I was like, \u201cThis is the moment!\u201d But, you know, as we began seeking God, separately, for ourselves\u2014and this is what Shannon, our counselor, had said, \u201cI believe that if both of you start seeking God, then your marriage will fall into alignment by default.\u201d When I could see him returning back to God\u2014God is the one who changed his heart; because he even said: \u201cI don\u2019t know how to love you,\u201d and \u201cYou know, I don\u2019t know how to heal myself. I\u2019m broken.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s why I said that this confidence\u2014if I speak with confidence or if it sounds, you know, however\u2014it\u2019s because I have this confidence in God that\u2014you know, people would ask me, \u201cIs there a step-by-step thing that we can save our marriage or be healed?\u201d Sometimes, I just look at them and I say: \u201cYou know what? I feel like the person in the New Testament when Jesus healed his eyes,\u201d\u2014right?\u2014like, \u201c\u2018How did He do that?\u2019 \u2018I don\u2019t know, but Jesus healed me.\u2019\u201d That\u2019s why I have so much faith in God and that the Bible is real\u2014and that it\u2019s true\u2014because I know that I was beyond healing, and yet He healed me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve been very honest in your book, and on air, around your own messes, but also Micah\u2019s mess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s he think about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>I started journaling in the whole process. Once our marriage was recovered, I told him\u2014I said: \u201cYou know, I have all these journals; but this is looking like a manuscript. This looks like Chapter 1,\u201d \u201c\u2026Chapter 2...\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe started reading it; and he said: \u201cYou know, babe, you\u2019re really a good writer. You should look into getting that published.\u201d I said: \u201cOkay; but you know what the book is about; right? It\u2019s about <em>you<\/em>, and it\u2019s about our struggles; and we don\u2019t look too good in it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was just, you know, this miraculous thing\u2014that God softened his heart so that, he not only <em>allowed<\/em> me to seek out getting this published, he paid for me to go to this conference and have a meeting with a publisher. He has been <em>so<\/em> supportive of this; and you know, we\u2014we have to live in our town. It\u2019s not like everything is online and \u201cOh, well.\u201d You know, like every\u2014when the news came out, there it was. Sometimes, I would submit articles as part of book promotions that you have to do when a book launches. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe people that I would submit them to would change the title so it would say, \u201c<em>My Husband Had an Affair<\/em>\u201d; and then there\u2019s our mugs right there on the internet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>It was just\u2014that is another thing that I know that, if God tasks you to do something, that He equips you to do it; because we were okay. You know, I have so much respect for my husband; because he said, \u201cYou know, I don\u2019t like what I did; but if God can use it in any way,\u201d\u2014like, \u201cHe\u2019s healed us, and it\u2019s the least we can do to offer that back for Him.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve forgiven him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Yes; of course!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>When did you forgive him?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know that there\u2019s a date and time; but I know that, as God healed my heart, I was able to forgive him. There is a chapter in the book where I talk about\u2014I was reading the story of Joseph in the Bible and how he could forgive his brothers\u2014right?\u2014because they sold him into slavery. But you know, at the end of that chapter, it says, you know, \u201cWhat you meant to destroy me, God turned it around and used it for my good.\u201d I know that God healed me and that He\u2019s used this story for good, countless times over.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I think it\u2019s appropriate to read the last verse from Chapter 4 of Ephesians\u2014Paul said, \u201cBe kind to one another.\u201d You have mentioned the word, \u201ckind,\u201d <em>repeatedly<\/em>. You sought to be kind to someone who had pierced your heart \/ disappointed you dramatically, but you were kind. \u201cBe kind to one another, tenderhearted,\u201d\u2014you let him stay in the house; that\u2019s amazing; but it doesn\u2019t stop there\u2014\u201cforgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLast time I checked, God completely forgave me in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ; and He calls us to live the same way. That\u2019s not hard; it\u2019s impossible\u2014can only be done by the One, who defeated death, living in and through you to love another imperfect person.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShauna, thank you for giving us a glimpse of God\u2019s greatness by letting us into the interior of your heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Shauna: <\/strong>Thank you so much for having me. This has been wonderful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and we have a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com to Shauna\u2019s website. If folks would like more information about your blog \/ they want to subscribe to your blog, they can do that; or read past posts\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com, look for the link to Shauna\u2019s website; order a copy of her book, <em>A Fierce Love: One Woman\u2019s Courageous Journey to Save Her Marriage<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd it may be that there\u2019s somebody you know who would benefit from hearing Shauna\u2019s story. You can send them a link to these programs. They can listen online or download the programs for free. Share this with somebody so that they can hear Shauna\u2019s story and maybe get some hope from what she shared with us this week.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd speaking of hope, it\u2019s one of the things that we focus on at our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of couples, who come to the getaway, come to the getaway and hope is lacking\u2014it\u2019s in short supply. It may be that they\u2019re going through a tough season, or it may be that there hasn\u2019t been much hope for a while. But in two-and-a-half days, at a getaway, we\u2019ve seen couples, who came in hopeless, leave the getaway with a renewed sense of hope and a fresh commitment to their marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have more than three dozen of these getaways happening in cities all across the country this fall. Right now, if you\u2019ll sign up for one of the upcoming getaways, you\u2019ll save 50 percent off the regular registration fee. Take advantage of the best offer we make, all year long, and attend the getaway at half off the regular registration. Sign up today at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call if you have any questions or if you\u2019d like to register by phone: 1-800-FL-TODAY is our number\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBe sure you get registered before the weekend is over.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk about how you can change your marriage by changing how you think about your marriage. I\u2019m not talking about some Jedi mind trick or positive thinking\u2014I\u2019m talking about renewing your mind \/ having a biblical sense about marriage. Sheila Gregoire\u2019s going to join us tomorrow to talk about that. I hope you can be back with us for that conversation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch. He got some help today from Mark Ramey. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> of Little Rock, Arkansas; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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