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She went along with what her parents told her to do. So why is that? Well, she has, at least, one reason why she thinks that\u2019s what happened. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> My parents had created this family environment, where we were so open; we were so honest. They spent so much <em>fun<\/em> time with us\u2014not just these really difficult conversations: not just the \u201cHave you done your chores yet?\u201d \/ not just the \u201cHave you gotten your school work done yet?\u201d We had, you know, our game nights; and we went out to see movies; and we had friends over\u2014they gave me something <em>better<\/em> to belong to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 30<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. What did Rebecca Lindenbach\u2019s parents do that kept her pointed in the right direction? We\u2019re going to talk more with her about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We have talked many times with moms and dads, who have experienced the heartache\u2014and it is a heartache when a son or a daughter heads in a different direction from the one that mom and dad were pointing them in\u2014especially when we\u2019re talking about where they\u2019re going spiritually. Today, we\u2019re going to go and approach that same subject from a different angle; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014a non-rebel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014a self-admitted non-rebel. I just\u2014I want to find out if she\u2019s a Pharisee. [Laughter] I\u2019m actually kidding. Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbach joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Rebecca, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Thank you so much for having me. I\u2019m so excited to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re the second Canadian we\u2019ve had around here in the past few months. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Only the second, eh? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, eh; eh? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Rebecca\u2019s written a book called <em>Why I Didn\u2019t Rebel. <\/em>Now that\u2019s pretty bold. I wonder, if we called your parents right now, [Laughter] if they would agree with that title. They must or you wouldn\u2019t have put it in print; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, exactly or else I\u2019m just really brazen; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. Well, your mom\u2019s been on the broadcast. We know her well enough to call her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Rebecca\u2019s been married to Connor since 2015. She hosts the blog called \u201cLife as a Dare<em>.<\/em>\u201d I just want to ask you\u2014you say that the whole idea of being a rebel is misunderstood and over-rated within the Christian community. What do you mean by that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, Christian community has made teenaged rebellion almost like this inevitable thing that parents can do nothing to prevent. Well, we do the pendulum swing; right? It\u2019s either: \u201cWe have to completely control to make sure that our kids never rebel,\u201d or \u201cWell, just close your eyes and cross your fingers\u2014there\u2019s nothing you can do anyway\u201d; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just kind of think there\u2019s got to be a middle ground there, because I\u2019m personally living proof kids do not have to rebel in high school; and I\u2019m not the only one. I interviewed 25 young adults for this book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of them rebelled; some of them didn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you\u2019re talking about rebellion\u2014let\u2019s define terms.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Because every teenager emerges as his or her own person and wants some freedom and some authority to make choices that are different than the choices mom and dad might make for them. That was true of you; wasn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Completely. I\u2019m a very different person than my parents. I mean, I like to believe I\u2019m more different that my mother than I actually am. We\u2019re kind of carbon copies of each other to a certain extent. [Laugher]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you talk about rebelling, you\u2019re not talking about that \u201ccoming of age,\u201d where you kind of emerge as your own person.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, no; exactly. Personally, for myself, I was a very hormonal teenager. I am very self-aware about that. I must have been <em>horrible<\/em> to live with for a few years there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Moody?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Oh, my goodness! That doesn\u2019t even begin to describe it. I was dramatic; I had all my angsty poetry. I was nit-picky with my sister. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of that is because you\u2019re experiencing all of these horrible puberty changes for the first time\u2014it\u2019s overwhelming. But a lot of times, stuff like those mood changes\u2014those hormones\u2014they get labeled as like sinful. I just don\u2019t think that\u2019s true; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca<\/strong>: Is it sinful to go through natural change as you\u2019re becoming a teenager and be a bit moodier? Well, no. That\u2019s just something we need to learn how to, you know, control our emotional reactions to things that are happening. It\u2019s a place for growth and for learning. It\u2019s not something that is bad in and of itself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So are you saying your mom did a good job of handlingyour mood swings as you went through the teenage years and became a young lady?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes. I think my parents were very gracious about it all. They didn\u2019t tend to over-react. If I got really moody, they didn\u2019t immediately start to punish me, like, \u201cYou\u2019re grounded for two months because you yelled at me.\u201d It\u2019s more like: \u201cHey, that\u2019s not acceptable. Here\u2019s why... We need to figure out how we can make sure that your reaction isn\u2019t too lash out next time; because this is a new skill you have to learn as you\u2019re going through, you know, becoming a teenager \/ becoming an adult.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEmotional regulation is a skill that you learn all throughout the years; right? Some people find it easier than others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014I raised\u2014had four teenaged daughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Oh, wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That was a challenge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There were some rapids you went through with them? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Better stated\u2014a roller coaster<strong>. <\/strong>[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Hanging on for dear life; you know? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So when we\u2019re talking about rebellion, we\u2019re not talking about a time when you may have argued back with your mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> No! Well, what I say in the book is: \u201cThe reality is that a 13-year-old girl, who\u2019s experiencing PMS and hormones for the first time in her life, is simply not going to be a submissive, gracious, lovely, friendly person. That\u2019s not how her brain is right now.\u201d She\u2019s going to be more like\u2014I think I said \u201c\u2026a tiger with a thorn in its foot, who\u2019s out for blood.\u201d [Laughter] Right?! That\u2019s just more the reality.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow parents respond to that can be <em>huge<\/em> for their kids; right? My parents were more of the: \u201cOkay; I recognize that this is <em>horrible<\/em> right now. We\u2019re going to get through it. Believe it or not, you\u2019ll survive.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, everything\u2019s dramatic for preteens and teenagers. A lot of parents\u2014it\u2019s this strict idea of what\u2019s good and what\u2019s not. What I wanted to talk about is this idea of what rebelling <em>is <\/em>versus it <em>isn\u2019t<\/em>\u2014is get back to the understanding of grace \/ of truth\u2014not imposing our own ideas of what is right\u2014but instead, focusing on: \u201cIs this kid following God with his or her whole heart, <em>or<\/em> are they living in a way that is consistently walking away from God?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Here\u2019s the problem, Rebecca\u2014at the same time you\u2019ve never experienced puberty,and the mood swings, and all the changes that come with the hormones that are flooding and invading your body\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014your parents have never hada teenaged daughter\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca: <\/strong>Oh, yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014or a son, who is going through the same thing. They\u2019ve never had one before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we had six, there were certain things that I began to recognize by the time we got to number six. You know, you kind of wise up at a point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But as you start out, the parents aren\u2019t a whole lot better than the kids, who are going through it as well, because they\u2019ve never experienced it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But one of the things that is talked about in the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>TM <\/sup>video series that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has just done\u2014that I think is really helpful for moms and dads here\u2014is you candifferentiate between a child\u2019s behavior, whether it\u2019s a toddler or a teenager: \u201cIs this sinful rebellion or is this childishness? Is this a hormonal change, or is this deliberate willful rebellion against mom and dad\u2019s authority?\u201d If a child is being childish, you don\u2019t punish childishness; you help them adjust and correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You <em>punish<\/em> the rebellion and the willful disobedience; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, exactly; and it\u2019s the same with teenagers. The problem is that, because teens have more of an ability to think for themselves, it\u2019s sometimes easy, I think, to forget that they\u2019re still\u2014their brain is still developing; you know, their brain\u2019s not done. I mean, my brain\u2019s not even done developing\u2014I\u2019m only 23; right? I\u2019ve still got, I think, two years\u2014psychology research says\u2014until I\u2019ve got a fully-formed frontal lobe. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s a lot that goes on behind the scenes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I think, just like what you said, where by the sixth kid, you kind of have an idea of what you\u2019re doing. What I\u2019ve found from my interviews for this book is that none of these parents knew what they were doing; you know? It\u2019s not that they had all of the right answers\u2014it\u2019s that they were able to admit they didn\u2019t know what they were doing, necessarily. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLike with my parents, they didn\u2019t handle everything perfectly. In fact, when I wrote this book, my mom actually said: \u201cYou have to say every single thing we did wrong. Like, you know that; right? Like, you got to <em>expose<\/em> us. [Laughter] Tell everyone that we weren\u2019t perfect.\u201d The message of my book isn\u2019t: \u201cYou need to be a perfect parent.\u201d It\u2019s: \u201cWe can accept the imperfection as long as it leads to authentic relationship\u201d; right?\u2014because that\u2019s the main difference. If you have a kid, going through puberty for the first time, it is okay to\u2014if you mess up, go to them and say: \u201cYou know what? I\u2019ve never had to deal with this before. You\u2019ve never had to deal with this before. We\u2019re going through this together. How can we do this better next time?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: That\u2019s almost verbatim what I told one of our daughters, but she was number five of the six; so it took a while to get to that point. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Rebecca, when we raised our kids, one of the things that our daughters would do\u2014more than the guys would do\u2014is they would have\u2014just have a horrible, terrible, no good, very bad day; and they expressed it emotionally. As a daddy, I didn\u2019t know what to do with that; okay?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI compared this, Rebecca\u2014here\u2019s my analogy\u2014at that point, what they\u2019d become is a mud wrestler. They\u2019re in a mud hole, and they want to get the parent in the mud hole with them; because they know, if they can get them wrestling in the mud hole with them, emotionally, that\u2019s 90 percent of the win. Rebecca, you\u2019re laughing! [Laugher]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I\u2019m dying! That\u2019s exactly what I did as a teenager. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019ve been found out. Your mom did not call me. [Laughter] I think that\u2019s what most teenagers try to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s a way of controlling parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, I think more than that\u2014it\u2019s that teenagers\u2014what we want more than anything is to be heard; right? We want to know someone understands us. The thing is, when you\u2019re 13 or 14, and you\u2019re going through this for the first time, you feel like <em>so<\/em> many emotions on such a deeper level than you\u2019ve ever had before. The problem is\u2014although people tell you\u2014like, \u201cNo; you\u2019re not the only one who has ever gone through this,\u201d your brain is telling you: \u201cNo one understands! You\u2019re all alone in this! This doesn\u2019t get any better!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can bring your parent into that, it\u2019s more of a: \u201cFeel my pain! <em>Please<\/em> understand! I just want to <em>know<\/em> that you <em>hear<\/em> me!\u201d I think that often is a lot of the motivation as well\u2014it\u2019s the desire to be heard. Unfortunately, when you don\u2019t have a lot of those healthy emotional regulation skills, the answer seems to be to drag people into it; so that you can <em>know<\/em> that people understand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think what Bob shared a few minutes ago is really helpful for parents to realize\u2014it\u2019s not just out of toddlers that you get childishness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes; completely! Yep!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You can get childishness, which is foolish, out of younger adults\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Completely! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014who are in the process of growing up. They\u2019re going to spread their wings; and in doing so, they\u2019re going to go places they shouldn\u2019t go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So let me give you an example of a place they shouldn\u2019t go; okay? One of our children later told us, about the time when he was 14\u2014when after we had gone to bed\u2014he took his sister\u2019s car and drove to Wendy\u2019s<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. Now, you don\u2019t have a driver\u2019s license when you\u2019re 14. He hadn\u2019t been taught to drive. Let\u2019s say mom and dad find out about that in the middle of that happening. Do we look at that and go: \u201cWell, that\u2019s just childishness and foolishness,\u201d and \u201cKids will be kids,\u201d and let it go? Or do we ground them for a month?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, first of all, I don\u2019t believe in the whole \u201cKids will be kids\u201d mentality\u2014the whole \u201cKids will be kids; let it go.\u201d I don\u2019t think that\u2019s necessarily helpful; because\u2014yes; \u201cKids willbe kids,\u201d but then <em>that\u2019s<\/em> the next step: \u201cOkay; so you\u2019re doing this childish thing now, but that shouldn\u2019t happen forever. Let\u2019s not let it go. Let\u2019s figure out how we can talk about it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, when I was being emotionally manipulative of my parents, it wasn\u2019t like they just let me manipulate them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they said: \u201cHey, that\u2019s not appropriate, and here\u2019s why\u2026 You need to respect me. You need to recognize that you can\u2019t make other people miserable, because you\u2019re miserable; because that\u2019s not fair and that\u2019s not loving.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How did you feel about it when they said that to you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, I tried to manipulate them harder! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You doubled down! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I doubled down, but they stuck with it; you know? Because this idea that \u201cKids will be kids,\u201d\u2014my parents actually had a very opposite idea. They believed very much in the natural transition of growing up, and that we shouldn\u2019t be punished for natural transitions. But they also used to tell me again and again: \u201cYou have the Holy Spirit as much as any adult does. You have the power to follow God. We just need to figure out how you can deal with things like impulse control \/ things like emotional regulation, so that you can follow Him properly.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHaving conversations and figuring out: \u201cWhat\u2019s the next step?\u201d versus just, \u201cKids will be kids; let it go\u201d is the important thing. It\u2019s about expecting more but also equipping kids to be able to do more; because a lot of parents expect a lot, but don\u2019t take the time to equip them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did you ever have a disobedient moment like my son had?\u2014maybe something your mom doesn\u2019t know about yet\u2014that you want to confess here on national radio?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I\u2019m honestly thinking. I\u2019m <em>honestly<\/em> trying so hard to think. I don\u2019t think <em>so<\/em>!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re the first-born compliant child; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Like my parents were <em>so<\/em> open and honest with us that, even when I did something bad, it wasn\u2019t like I held it from them; because that was not what we did in our family. I never did anything really rebellious, because I never felt the need to. My parents gave me an alternative that I was perfectly comfortable with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Hold it\u2014you never pushed the curfew?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> No; I didn\u2019t really have a curfew. Okay; here\u2019s\u2014that\u2019s actually a really good example of the families that I interviewed\u2014of kids who rebelled versus those who didn\u2019t\u2014the curfew example; right? There are a lot of parents who are really, really strict about that\u2014like, \u201cYou must to be home by ten o\u2019clock,\u201d etc. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had one girl, who explained it absolutely perfectly when I interviewed her. We call her Rachel in the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInstead of having a curfew when she went out\u2014she\u2019d say, \u201cHey, what time do I have to be home?\u201d And her parents said, \u201cWhat time do you think you should be home?\u201d She <em>hated<\/em> it; because then she has to go through and think: \u201cOkay; I have a test in the morning. Okay; well, it\u2019s also kind of raining; I don\u2019t want to be out on dangerous roads driving past a certain time. Okay; so I guess I should be home by 10:30.\u201d Then her parents would be like, \u201cOkay; sounds good.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cSounds good.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca: <\/strong>They might have said, \u201cYou can come home at 11\u201d; but they won\u2019t tell her what they thought the curfew should be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; I don\u2019t know who this Rachel is, but here\u2019s how that would have played out at our house. [Laughter] \u201cWhat time do you think you should be home?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cThree?!\u201d \u201cNo; that\u2019s not going to fly, son. Three is not going to work. Nothing good happens after midnight\u201d; right? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to go back to your story, Bob; because your child, who is becoming a young man at 18 or 19, when he \u201cfessed up.\u201d What did you do with his confession at that point? Did you just laugh it off or was there still the Daddy Bob who kind of put his arm around his son and go, \u201cSon, what were you thinking?\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, because who he was\u2014when we learned it, at 19 or 20, was so different than who he had been at age 14\u2014we celebrated the growth we had seen in him [Laughter] and the fact that he\u2019s not the same any more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great response!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You celebrate the independence.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No; another story with him was the time that he told us about when he and his friends\u2014we live in Arkansas. The Arkansas River goes right through Little Rock. Out in the middle of the river, there are some islands; right? You know what I\u2019m talking about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So one night, he and his buddies decided they were going to swim out to those islands at 11:00 on a Friday night. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Oh, dear!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Some of them [islands] are quite a ways from shore\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and there\u2019s a lot of current\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014dangerous current.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; right. So we celebrated when we found that out\u2014the fact that our son was still alive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And he knew, later, that that was a foolish choice to have made and that it was a very dangerous choice to have made. [Laughter] But when you learn about it years later, there is not a whole lot you <em>can<\/em> do, especially if they\u2019ve demonstrated, now, the wisdom and maturity that they didn\u2019t have back then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, and that\u2019s exactly the thing\u2014it\u2019s: \u201cWhere are they at?\u201d\u2014right? It\u2019s not\u2014what I\u2019ve found is that it\u2019s not necessarily the behavior that\u2019s always the problem\u2014it\u2019s the heart behind the behavior. Like\u2014I give the example that, you know, there can be a kid, who looks picture-perfect on the outside\u2014who has their Sunday-best on every Sunday morning; shows up at church; and is, you know, volunteering throughout the week\u2014but has a really, really prideful vindictive heart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you can have a kid, who\u2019s got a really <em>soft<\/em> heart, who\u2019s just really loving and comes home one night completely drunk from a party, who is just so ashamed of what they\u2019ve done and cries [in front of] their parents\u2014says: \u201cI\u2019m <em>so<\/em> sorry! I\u2019ll never do this again.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhich one\u2019s the rebellious one; right?\u2014that\u2019s the question. I would argue that the kid, with the heart who is not following God, even if they <em>look<\/em> like they are, is the rebellious one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s far more dangerous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re describing Luke, Chapter 15\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Completely!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014the story of the prodigal son and the older brother.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Completely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The prodigal son, who was disobedient and immoral came to his senses \/ came home and repented. The older brother, who was the rule-keeper, was miffed because his self-righteousness wasn\u2019t gaining him any brownie points. Moms and dads need to be as concerned about self-righteousness as they are about prodigal kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Well, exactly; because the reality is that God looks at the heart; right? It says again and again and again; so if your kid has a good heart\u2014even if they make a mistake\u2014that isn\u2019t necessarily rebellion. I think that offers a lot of grace to parents as well; right? You don\u2019t need to raise perfect kids; you don\u2019t need to be a perfect parent. It\u2019s about the <em>heart<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So were you tempted to rebel at some point? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I actually talk about this in the book. I worked at a local recreational center. I had a bunch of friends there, and I was the only Christian of all the people who worked together. We were all within about two to three years of age. We were <em>super<\/em> close\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014well, like the best work environment you could ever ask for. But every single Friday night a different person of our staff would host a giant party at their house. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Every single week I would get invited, \u201cHey, Becca, coming to the party this week?\u201d And I\u2019d be, \u201cNope; sorry\u2014not gonna.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A lot of drinking going on at the party?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I knew there\u2019d be drinking going on and probably some other stuff as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca: <\/strong>I just said, \u201cNo,\u201d every single week. It may have been a little bit like I felt, \u201cMan, I wish that my friends were doing things that I could be involved in.\u201d But it wasn\u2019t like I felt miffed that I couldn\u2019t go to the party. My parents didn\u2019t even tell me I couldn\u2019t go to the party. I decided for myself that I couldn\u2019t\u2014like, obviously, if I had asked them, they would have been like, \u201cWell, you can\u2019t go somewhere where there\u2019s drinking.\u201d But we didn\u2019t have that overt conversation in the same way. It was more because of the general discussions we\u2019d had about the dangers of alcohol when you\u2019re a teenager \/ the dangers of drugs\u2014the dangers of being in situations where you might potentially be unsafe. I <em>knew<\/em> that this wasn\u2019t a good choice. It wasn\u2019t that I was tempted. I may have been a little bit sad that my friends were doing things that I couldn\u2019t be involved in\u2014but it wasn\u2019t like I felt like I was missing out. It was more that I felt that <em>they<\/em> were missing out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Was it appealing to you to go get drugs with your friends?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> No. What I said in the book: \u201cMy parents had given me something so much better. They had given me somewhere so much better to fit in. I loved my family. I loved being in my family\u201d; you know? My parents had created this family environment, where we were so open; we were so honest. They spent so much <em>fun<\/em> time with us\u2014not just these really difficult conversations: not just the \u201cHave you done your chores yet?\u201d \/ not just the \u201cHave you gotten your school work done yet?\u201d We had, you know, our game nights; and we went out to see movies; and we had friends over\u2014they gave me something <em>better<\/em> to belong to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Rebecca, I got to believe there\u2019s a number of listeners, right now, who are going: \u201cShe\u2019s 23? What happened to our son\u201d\u2014or our daughter\u2014\u201cwho went through the same period of time, who were trained by parents, who had good intentions of passing on their faith and wanted to cultivate a heart of obedience?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, you appear to have gone through this same period of time and pretty much unscathed by the teenage years, which I think are some of the most tumultuous testing times that are allowed into our lives as human beings, growing up. What you described is found over in 1 Corinthians, Chapter 13, when Paul was speaking of himself\u2014he said: \u201cWhen I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child\u201d\u2014go ahead and finish it, Rebecca. You\u2019re mouthing the words out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI talked like a child, I walked like a child, and I acted like a child\u201d\u2014is that it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI reasoned like a child.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rebecca: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cI reasoned like a child.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cBut when I became a man, I gave up childish ways.\u201d This is what parents are being challenged to do. The<em> Art of Parenting<\/em>, our new video series that we have\u2014that trains parents to think biblically. You\u2019re training your children to grow up and through childishness to, ultimately, embrace the responsibility of being a man [or] a woman and being comfortable in their skin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think Rebecca, Bob, gives us a great aspirational picture, here, of what parents ought to be shooting for. Maybe what they need to do to better understand what their teenagers are going through is pick up a copy of her book, <em>Why I Didn\u2019t Rebel<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob and Rebecca:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because some parents\u2019 parenting style is aggravating rebellion in their children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s one of the things that I think moms and dads need to recognize is\u2014there are some things we can <em>do<\/em>that can make it easier for our children to respond favorably to our leadership, and there are things we can do that push them in the other direction. We can\u2019t control the outcome, but we can influence the direction they head in. Rebecca\u2019s book is helpful in that regard. The book is called <em>Why I Didn\u2019t Rebel. <\/em>We\u2019ve got copies in our<em> FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center<em>. <\/em>You can order a copy from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to order: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I was thinking about the video series that we produced recently, called the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em>, and about your new book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>, where we\u2019re trying to help moms and dads with biblical strategies for how we raise the next generation to prepare to release them to be pointed in the right direction. Again, there are no guarantees; because kids have a mind of their own and a will of their own, but we want to make sure that, as parents, we\u2019ve done all that we can to point our kids in the right direction. That\u2019s why FamilyLife has created these resources to help parents with the challenging assignment of raising the next generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere, at FamilyLife, we are committed to providing practical biblical help and hope for marriages and families\u2014that\u2019s our mission; that\u2019s our goal. When you help support this ministry, you help make all of that happen. We have less than 48 hours before the month of August is over. This month, we\u2019ve had a matching gift made available to us, here, at FamilyLife. Every donation we receive this month is being matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $500,000; but we have to hear from you before Saturday if we\u2019re going to take advantage of that matching-gift opportunity. We\u2019re asking our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners\u2014those of you who are regular listeners, who have benefited from and appreciate this program\u2014we\u2019re asking you to go online and make a donation today or call to donate. Our website is FamilyLifeToday.com, and our toll free number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. Whatever donation you are able to make today or tomorrow is going to be matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $500,000; and we\u2019re going to send <em>you<\/em> a copy of Dennis and Barbara Rainey\u2019s new book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>, when you make a donation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope to hear from you. Pray for us that we\u2019ll be able to take full advantage of this matching-gift opportunity. Thanks for your support of the work of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you\u2019ll join us back tomorrow when we\u2019re going to continue our conversation with Rebecca Lindenbach about why she didn\u2019t rebel against her parents. I hope you can be with us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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