{"id":300335,"date":"2018-08-16T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-08-16T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/help-i-feel-like-a-failure\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:41:30","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:41:30","slug":"help-i-feel-like-a-failure","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/help-i-feel-like-a-failure\/","title":{"rendered":"Help! I Feel Like a Failure"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Brooke McGlothlin | Series: Gospel Centered Mom | Brooke McGlothlin, president of Raising Boys Ministries, grew up dreaming of having little boys of her own. But parenting high-energy, aggressive boys left her feeling frazzled and drained. McGlothlin tells how she learned that her giftedness alone wasn&#8217;t enough to raise her boys, and how God showed her that He was enough, and He would help her. 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Brooke McGlothlin says kids need to see parents who are passionately pursuing Jesus in their own lives and who are confessing and repenting when they mess up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> There\u2019s too many occasions in our culture where Christians have lowered the bar and said, \u201cI can\u2019t do that so I\u2019m not even going to try.\u201d I just am going to set those high standards and I\u2019m going try to model them for my sons. My husband tries to model them for our sons. That is one of the best ways that we can teach our kids to <em>be<\/em> those kind of people is to <em>be<\/em> those kind of people. I want my children to know that Momma needs Jesus just as much as they do. I am a sinner just like they are, or they\u2019re not going to know\u2014they\u2019re not going to be able to see how much they need Jesus, too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey. I'm Bob Lepine. What does it mean to be gospel-centered in your parenting? We\u2019re going to talk about that today with Brooke McGlothlin. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, did you vet our guest on the broadcast today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We vet every guest who\u2019s on <em>FamilyLife<\/em> <em>Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you know she was the founder of the \u201cMOB.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I knew, not only is she the founder of the \u201cMOB,\u201d but that her husband is a highway patrolman\u2014so I\u2019m wondering how all that works. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Really is interesting. [Laughter] MOB stands for\u2014well let\u2019s let Brooke McGlothlin explain that to our listeners. Brooke, welcome to the broadcast. What is the MOB?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Thank you guys for having me here. This is a treat for me. The \u201cMOB\u201d just simply stands for \u201cMothers of Boys,\u201d so it is way more way more benign than you\u2019re thinking. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well now wait, if it\u2019s \u201cMothers of Boys,\u201d\u2014that sounds like it could get a little dangerous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> It can at times, yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How old are your boys?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They\u2019re getting ready to turn 11 and 13. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You have said in your writing that your boys are\u2014how would you describe it\u2014high energy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They are what I like to call <em>those boys<\/em>. [Laughter] They are very high energy aggressive little boys\u2014<em>250% boy<\/em> is what I call them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You wanted a boy. You prayed that your first baby would be a boy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> I prayed that I would have all boys\u2014yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Why?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke: <\/strong>My husband is one of three boys. My father was one of three boys. I was raised with an older brother and surrounded by uncles. You know\u2014on some practical level\u2014I think I just knew the language of boys a little better than I knew\u2014I\u2019ve always gotten along better with boys. It just seemed to be a natural outgrowth there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally and truly the real reason\u2014when I was praying and asking God for this\u2014it was because I wanted to raise men who were different than what I had seen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t have any children, and so my ideals were very na\u00efve. I thought I could do it by myself. I thought\u2014I could accomplish these things on my own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just looked around and saw a shortage of what I thought were great, godly men. I had seen just enough of them to know that our world needed more of it. I wanted to be able to do that\u2014I wanted to be able to give the world more men like that. It was important to me, so I asked the Lord to give me men.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what did the Lord give you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> He gave me boys. [Laughter] He gave me two of those hard-to-handle type boys. My mother-in-law told me one day, she said, \u201cBrooke, you don\u2019t really have hard-to-handle boys. You just have boys.\u201d I said, \u201cI reject that in the name of Jesus. I have hard-to-handle boys.\u201d [Laughter] I really do think there\u2019s a subgroup of boys that are a little bit harder to handle than most. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> As I was reading your book, <em>Gospel-Centered Mom<\/em>, I had to smile when you said, \u201cThey\u2019ve reached the age as I write this book, that they are constantly fighting with each other.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I thought if Barbara was here, she would say, \u201cAmen, Sister!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No doubt about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: Your sons are the kind of young men that are causing moms to be fatigued. By the way, girls do too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you\u2019re writing to moms who are not encouraged by the job description of being a mom today and they feel like they\u2019re losing. They don\u2019t feel like they are enough. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right, absolutely. I think at every turn the world tells us we\u2019re not enough\u2014or that we feel like we\u2019re not enough\u2014maybe that\u2019s a better way to put it. The things that we encounter\u2014our failures\u2014scream at us, \u201cYou don\u2019t have what it takes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs moms\u2014you know, I speak on behalf of a lot of moms when I say\u2014this is like the one thing in our lives we don\u2019t want to mess up; right? None of us want to mess this up. So we feel like we <em>have<\/em> to be enough. We <em>have<\/em> to have what it takes\u2014because if we don\u2019t, we don\u2019t get a second chance to raise these kids the way we want to. We\u2019ve created these standards\u2014in the world\u2014that <em>nobody<\/em> can meet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe world actually\u2014you know, it\u2019s very popular in today\u2019s culture for people to scream at you, \u201cYou are enough!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI actually went to a conference a few weeks ago where it was packed\u2014like 30,000 people at this conference\u2014it\u2019s not a Christian conference\u2014but it was a conference I went to. The speaker from on stage had everyone chant, \u201cI am enough. I am enough.\u201d I stood there and did not chant it back, because I truly don\u2019t believe that I am enough. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I look at Scripture\u2014when I look at the Bible, which is my rule for living\u2014I just don\u2019t see it there. I don\u2019t see that we were ever meant to be enough on our own. If we were, we wouldn\u2019t need Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I might have\u2014at that conference\u2014stood up and just shouted, \u201cJesus is enough!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Because that\u2019s the real message of the Scriptures. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke<\/strong>: Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But He made us to be dependent on Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And dependent on others, and especially in this season when moms are raising boys or girls, I think one of the things that\u2019s often missing from what moms are going through is they get isolated from other moms\u2014from other people. That isolation can kill you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke: <\/strong>Absolutely! I know that was true for me in the very beginning. Some of it was based on the fact that I came into my motherhood very prideful. I had been a very goal-oriented person. By the time we had our first son, I had checked off every major life accomplishment that I had planned for myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You were on track for a PhD. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> I was on track for a PhD. In fact, I was working on my PhD when I got pregnant with our first son and was so sick during that pregnancy that I ended up dropping out of the program. I still would love to go back and do that. It\u2019s still something that I would love to do at some point. But my children literally changed the entire course and direction of my life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A lot of moms experience that and become resentful or they experience it and say, \u201cI got to figure out a way to have both areas of my life work for me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So why didn\u2019t either of those happen with you\u2014or did you become resentful for a while?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, I did\u2014I did for a little while\u2014not so much that I wasn\u2019t being able to pursue my original dreams.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think there was a season of my life where I realized I needed to be willing as a Christian\u2014as a believer\u2014a follower of Christ\u2014first and foremost; right? Like, that\u2018s my real identity\u2014\u201cMother\u201d is a secondary identity for me to that\u2014so if I am going to call myself a follower of Christ\u2014I have to be willing to <em>be<\/em> a follower of Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat means that I need to allow God to <em>change<\/em> my dreams for my life\u2014or even lay them down for a season\u2014then I want to do that\u2014because that\u2019s what my Savior asks of me to do. But I think for a lot of moms, they get messed up in understanding there the difference between their purpose and their gifts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you look at the beginning of the Book of Acts\u2014in chapters 6 and 7, we learn\u2014we start to learn a little bit about Stephen. Of course we know Stephen was one of the first\u2014or was the first Christian martyr. The reason that Stephen was chosen to serve in the church\u2014if you look in chapter 6\u2014the disciples are increasing in number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe men who were in charge found that they needed to bring other men alongside them to do some of the work of the church\u2014so that they could be free to go and preach the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The first deacons; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> So Stephen was one of those that was chosen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They looked at him. They found him worthy of that position. They\u2014they saw his giftings and his talents as a man\u2014then raised him up to that position. But we actually\u2014we don\u2019t know the whole story from Scripture. We don\u2019t see a lot of him actually functioning in that role as it\u2019s relayed in Scripture. What we see next is that Stephen is seized. Then he gives this glorious speech that ends up getting him killed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think Stephen is a fantastic picture of the difference between our purpose and our gifting. We are all given gifts\u2014God has given all of us gifts to use for His glory in the body of Christ to serve other people\u2014but that\u2019s different from our purpose. Stephen\u2019s purpose and our purpose\u2014whether you are a mother or a father or an aunt or an uncle makes no difference, whatsoever\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014if you are a believer, your purpose is to be poured out for the sake of the glory of God. That is your purpose. Sometimes that includes your gifts\u2014and sometimes it doesn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor me, it was the realization that my purpose was to be poured out\u2014in whatever way God was calling me to do that in that season of my life. There might be a time later\u2014there might even be a time <em>in<\/em> that pouring out\u2014that God would allow me to still use the gifts that He gave me. Whatever season I was in, I needed to be open to being poured out for God\u2019s glory.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That means sometimes laying aside things that you delight in\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke<\/strong>: That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014for the sake of things that God has given you that may be tedious\u2014mundane. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Like raising a child maybe? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Things that can seem insignificant\u2014and you understand this, Brooke. For a mom when you\u2019re going through the daily-ness with toddlers, you don\u2019t think you\u2019re doing anything glorious. You don\u2019t think you\u2019re seeing the kingdom develop.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll you think is, \u201cI\u2019m working hard and this kids barely surviving and that\u2019s all we\u2019ve got.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: Yes. In fact, the opposite may be occurring. This little child you\u2019re pouring your life into may grow up and take it out on another kid. That occurred with one of your boys\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> It did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014who sent another boy to the E.R., and you had nothing\u2014you had no knowledge of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t even know it happened. He didn\u2019t know it happened. He didn\u2019t realize. You know\u2014he was very young at the time. He was just playing. He didn\u2019t understand that what he was doing was actually hurting someone. In his defense, all the boys were kind of being rough in that way. It just so happened\u2014that he was the one that sent somebody to the E.R. But it was\u2014it was a crazy thing for me\u2014as a mom\u2014to try and process. It was really just one more thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What happened? Tell the story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Sure. Yes. We\u2019d spend a lot of time at the pool in the summer. My children are fish. They\u2019re just happier at the pool. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery time we don\u2019t go to the pool, I say to myself why did we not go to the pool today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes\u2014right! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> We spend a lot of time there. One day I was doing laps. This particular pool that we have, observed adult swim. I thought I would be really fantastic and exercise while my kids were outside of the pool playing. I\u2019m swimming laps doing a couple at a time and then stopping in between to hyperventilate. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was stopped at one point trying to catch my breath, and I overheard some moms that were right beside me having a heated conversation with another child. This child was looking down at his mother who was in the water and he said, \u201cMom, he did it again.\u201d I heard her talking to him trying to get the story. He described what the attacker was wearing and my heart just sank when I realized he was talking about my son.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought, \u201cOkay, Brooke, we\u2019ve got to\u2014we\u2019ve got to go over here and handle this because this is not good.\u201d I didn\u2019t know what had happened yet, but I knew it wasn\u2019t good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI walked over to her. It was really humbling for me, because she was in a Bible study that was studying one of my other books at the time. [Laughter] It was very humbling for me. I walked over to her and I said, \u201cCan you tell me\u2014I know you\u2019re talking about my son\u2014can you please tell me what happened?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cWell, I\u2019m very sorry to tell you this, but yesterday when our sons were playing in the water, your son punched him and kneed him in the chest and we\u2014he was in so much pain that we had to take him to the E.R. last night. Thankfully he\u2019s just bruised\u2014but we thought something was broken\u2014and my son has just come to tell me that he did it again today.\u201d And I\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke: <\/strong>\u2014stood there and absorbed it\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> [Laughter] \u2014with just feeling like my whole world had fallen apart, because I fight for this boy on a regular basis. He\u2014when he was very little\u2014the Lord showed me that he was a fighter and that I need to fight <em>for<\/em> him and not against him. I have fought for him in prayer. I have fought for him in word. I have fought for him in deed\u2014in <em>so<\/em> <em>many ways<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn that moment it was just one more thing I had failed\u2014because I took it all on myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI went and got him and pulled him aside. I told him what had happened. He was completely shocked. He had no idea that what he had done had caused this kind of damage in somebody\u2019s life. The little boy was fine. There was\u2014it was nothing major, but it was a big deal for me. He told me they were all playing and we worked it out\u2014but it was\u2014it was very, very challenging for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What you\u2019re talking about there is\u2026seeing disappointment in the product of what you\u2019re trying to create in a child. I got to tell every mom listening. You\u2019re\u2014you\u2019re not dealing with a robot here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re raising sons and daughters who are born broken\u2014born selfish. What you have to realize is your purpose is still the same. It is about honoring God, doing the right thing, training them in their character and relationships, and teaching them how to follow Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou mention in your book that you call moms to realize who they are as followers of Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. I think that\u2019s the most important thing we can do as moms, because when you\u2019re in that situation\u2014I know this is true for me\u2014the enemy throws fiery darts at us, right? For me, sometimes what that is\u2014is him saying, \u201cYou can\u2019t do this. You\u2019re a failure. Your kids are going to end up in prison. You\u2019re never going to make any difference in their lives. They\u2019re always going to be this way.\u201d A lot of those \u201calways\u201d and \u201cnever\u201d words; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> \u2014that just break us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They break us as moms and dads\u2014because we so badly want that our children to know the Lord and follow hard after him. We\u2019re trying with all that we have to believe that God <em>can<\/em> do this work in their hearts, but the day-to-day grind of it can be very disappointing and very difficult to deal with. For me, I have to tell myself the truth over and over and over again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had to begin to recognize when the enemy was lying to me and replace that\u2014actively replace that. In the beginning, sometimes that looked like for me to say, \u201cNo!\u201d out loud\u2014like\u2014just out loud. If you\u2019d been standing outside of my house, you would have thought I was crazy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So a thought pops into your head\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBrooke: Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and you just say, \u201cNo.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> \u201cNo, no that\u2019s not true. <em>This<\/em> is what the Word of God says about me and I\u2019m going to choose to believe that instead.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The thesis of you book is that the parenting process\u2014and especially for moms in the midst of discouragement and\u2014and the mundaneness and the loss of dream and vision that moms sometimes experience\u2014that the gospel speaks to that. I think people hear that and they go, \u201cThat does not make sense to me. The gospel speaks to how I come to faith in Christ.\u201d How does the gospel speak to anxiety or failure as a mother?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. It\u2019s a great question and I think it\u2019s such an important one in our culture today. We know that the gospel is our way for salvation; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re really good\u2014we\u2019ve gotten great\u2014at churches\u2014at telling people about the gospel and getting them saved\u2014but the gospel is more than that. The gospel is not just our one-trip ticket to heaven. It is the way we live our life. It is the standard above all standards for our behavior and our world view\u2014just even the way we see ourselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod wants to show us who He is, but He wants us to look at who we are through the lens of the gospel\u2014through the lens of His Word. That has to be our worldview because we will always live what we believe\u2014always. If we are not believing the truth about what the Word of God says, then we will always fall short of the freedom that we can have in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Brooke, are you\u2014are you shooting for two or three things in each of your boys that you want to build into them\u2014that if they grasp it and practice it in their lives, you will consider your job\u2014your work\u2014the tireless work of a mother\u2014you will have been successful?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. There are two things that pop into my mind right away. One is that I want to teach my boys to go to God in prayer for everything. Prayer is such an important part of my personal journey as a mom and as a person. I want to teach them the power of prayer. That\u2019s a huge thing in our home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI also want to teach them to be the kind of man that admits when they\u2019re wrong. I want them to be strong enough in who they are and in who God is in their lives that they can be humble\u2014that they can ask for forgiveness\u2014and that they can be weak in front of other people so that God can be strong.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: You know what you\u2019re talking about there is what Proverbs speaks about as a father counsels his son about not being arrogant, but expressing humility and asking God for wisdom. In order to pray, you have to admit there\u2019s someone in authority that you submit to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other issue you talked about just in terms of pride and arrogance\u2014that too has to have humility in order to operate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s one of the things you keep doing as a mom or a dad with your sons and your daughters is you help them realize when they have been arrogant\u2014when they\u2019ve been\u2014perhaps thinking too highly of themselves. You help them think rightly of themselves\u2014to relate with respect with their brothers, their sisters and other people outside the home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow this all is easy to talk about in here, but in the tireless pursuit of those two objectives you talked about, Brooke, it wears you out and it wears you down. Again you\u2019re not dealing with perfection here. It\u2019s not something you can say, \u201cWell, I did, I did it. I\u2019ve grown those qualities in my sons. I\u2019m done.\u201d No\u2014it\u2019s a lifetime process. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> It is. It is. But I think it\u2019s important to hold the standard high. I think our\u2014there\u2019s too many occasions in our culture where Christians have lowered the bar and said, \u201cI can\u2019t do that so I\u2019m not even going to try.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just am going to set those high standards and I\u2019m going try to model them for my sons\u2014my husband tries to model them for our sons. That is one of the best ways that we can teach our kids to <em>be<\/em> those kind of people is to <em>be<\/em> those kind of people ourselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a mom say to me one time, \u201cI would never ask my son or my daughter to forgive me\u2014never! That undermines my authority.\u201d It just broke my heart, because I want my children to <em>know<\/em> that Momma needs Jesus <em>just<\/em> as much as they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They have to know that I am a sinner <em>just<\/em> like they are or they\u2019re not going to know\u2014they\u2019re not going to be able to see how much they need Jesus, too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s one of the key things that Jessica Thompson shared in the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>TM<\/sup> video series that we just completed. She says, \u201cIt\u2019s on repeat at our home, \u2018I\u2019m a sinner just like you. I\u2019m a sinner just like you.\u2019\u201d Unless parents demonstrate for their kids\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014what confession and repentance looks like, kids are not going to learn how to confess and repent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the video series that we created, we\u2019ve got a lot of people who talk about the fact that we train our kids to avoid sin and then conceal sin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t train them to confess sin and then repent of sin and experience God\u2019s grace for their sin. But to train them with that, they\u2019ve got to see Mom and Dad doing that, as well. I think you\u2019re absolutely right. Your friend needs to go and apologize for not apologizing for all those years. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well and what our children need to see is not just us apologizing to our spouse and asking our spouse to forgive us around something they\u2019ve seen us do\u2014maybe a sharp answer or anger or something hurtful we\u2019ve said where they\u2019ve witnessed it\u2014but they also need us to get down on one knee and look them eyeball to eyeball, as I\u2019ve done on more than one occasion with a three-year old, a five-year old, a ten-year old. Then when they grow up you don\u2019t need to get down on one knee. You just look them face to face, and eye to eye and say, \u201cI\u2019m sorry, son. I\u2019m sorry, sweetie.\u201c\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI wasn\u2019t right; my response to you was inappropriate. Will you forgive me?\u201d We\u2019re really modeling in that point really what is at the heart of the gospel\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014which is forgiveness, redemption, reconciliation, and hope.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes\u2014and we\u2019ve got to be reminded of that regularly because\u2014as Martin Luther said\u2014he said, \u201cEvery week I preach the gospel because every week I forget it.\u201d We do that as parents as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m grateful, Brooke, that you\u2019ve written the book, <em>Gospel Centered Mom: The Freeing Truth about What Your Kids Really Need. <\/em>We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order the book from us today on FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to get a copy of the book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course what you\u2019re writing about is at the heart of the video series that we put together called <em>FamilyLife\u2019s<\/em> <em>Art of Parenting<\/em>\u2122.That video series is being used by a lot of churches this fall. They\u2019re starting parenting groups or parenting classes in their church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of them are using our movie <em>Like Arrows<\/em> as a kick-off event this fall and then getting groups started from that. If you\u2019d like more information about the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> video curriculum or about the free online <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> content that you can go through, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. The information is all available there. Again, the website\u2014FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSpeaking of the<em> Art of Parenting<\/em>, we are waiting, Dennis, for the book that you and Barbara have written by that title to arrive. In fact, many of our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners have gotten in touch with us this month to make a contribution. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a matching-gift campaign going on. Anytime somebody makes a donation during the month of August their donation is going to be doubled, dollar-for-dollar, and we\u2019re going to send them a copy of your new book <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em> as soon as it arrives. They\u2019ll be among the first to get a copy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are grateful for those of you who support the work of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe month of August is a key strategic time for us. As the summer is ending, our fiscal year is ending this month, as well. Your donation this month will be a great help to us as a ministry. You can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014or you can call to donate\u20141-800-FL-TODAY is the number. We just want to say thanks in advance for your partnership with us and your financial support.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also want you to let you know that we\u2019ve got something special planned for our Legacy Partners. It\u2019s happening three weeks from today. Dennis and Barbara and <em>FamilyLife<\/em>\u00ae President David Robbins and his wife Meg and I are all going to get together for a special Legacy Partner Connect\u2014an interactive event where we\u2019ll connect by phone and talk about parenting issues that moms and dads are facing these days. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you are a Legacy Partner\u2014or if you\u2019d like to find out more about becoming a Legacy Partner and connecting on the call, being able to interact with us\u2014you can find out more about joining with us when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY and ask about the Legacy Partner Connect event.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain it\u2019s Thursday night, September 6<sup>th<\/sup>. It\u2019ll happen at 7 pm central. We\u2019ll call you, so all you have to do is be by your phone and be ready when we make the call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to encourage you to be back with us again tomorrow. We\u2019re going to have Brooke McGlothlin back and continue to talk about what it means to be Gospel-centered in our parenting. Hope you can join us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of <em>FamilyLife<\/em> of Little Rock, Arkansas. A Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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The \u201cMOB\u201d just simply stands for \u201cMothers of Boys,\u201d so it is way more way more benign than you\u2019re thinking. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well now wait, if it\u2019s \u201cMothers of Boys,\u201d\u2014that sounds like it could get a little dangerous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> It can at times, yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How old are your boys?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They\u2019re getting ready to turn 11 and 13. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You have said in your writing that your boys are\u2014how would you describe it\u2014high energy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They are what I like to call <em>those boys<\/em>. [Laughter] They are very high energy aggressive little boys\u2014<em>250% boy<\/em> is what I call them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You wanted a boy. You prayed that your first baby would be a boy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> I prayed that I would have all boys\u2014yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Why?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke: <\/strong>My husband is one of three boys. My father was one of three boys. I was raised with an older brother and surrounded by uncles. You know\u2014on some practical level\u2014I think I just knew the language of boys a little better than I knew\u2014I\u2019ve always gotten along better with boys. It just seemed to be a natural outgrowth there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally and truly the real reason\u2014when I was praying and asking God for this\u2014it was because I wanted to raise men who were different than what I had seen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t have any children, and so my ideals were very na\u00efve. I thought I could do it by myself. I thought\u2014I could accomplish these things on my own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just looked around and saw a shortage of what I thought were great, godly men. I had seen just enough of them to know that our world needed more of it. I wanted to be able to do that\u2014I wanted to be able to give the world more men like that. It was important to me, so I asked the Lord to give me men.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what did the Lord give you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> He gave me boys. [Laughter] He gave me two of those hard-to-handle type boys. My mother-in-law told me one day, she said, \u201cBrooke, you don\u2019t really have hard-to-handle boys. You just have boys.\u201d I said, \u201cI reject that in the name of Jesus. I have hard-to-handle boys.\u201d [Laughter] I really do think there\u2019s a subgroup of boys that are a little bit harder to handle than most. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> As I was reading your book, <em>Gospel-Centered Mom<\/em>, I had to smile when you said, \u201cThey\u2019ve reached the age as I write this book, that they are constantly fighting with each other.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I thought if Barbara was here, she would say, \u201cAmen, Sister!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No doubt about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: Your sons are the kind of young men that are causing moms to be fatigued. By the way, girls do too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you\u2019re writing to moms who are not encouraged by the job description of being a mom today and they feel like they\u2019re losing. They don\u2019t feel like they are enough. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right, absolutely. I think at every turn the world tells us we\u2019re not enough\u2014or that we feel like we\u2019re not enough\u2014maybe that\u2019s a better way to put it. The things that we encounter\u2014our failures\u2014scream at us, \u201cYou don\u2019t have what it takes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs moms\u2014you know, I speak on behalf of a lot of moms when I say\u2014this is like the one thing in our lives we don\u2019t want to mess up; right? None of us want to mess this up. So we feel like we <em>have<\/em> to be enough. We <em>have<\/em> to have what it takes\u2014because if we don\u2019t, we don\u2019t get a second chance to raise these kids the way we want to. We\u2019ve created these standards\u2014in the world\u2014that <em>nobody<\/em> can meet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe world actually\u2014you know, it\u2019s very popular in today\u2019s culture for people to scream at you, \u201cYou are enough!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI actually went to a conference a few weeks ago where it was packed\u2014like 30,000 people at this conference\u2014it\u2019s not a Christian conference\u2014but it was a conference I went to. The speaker from on stage had everyone chant, \u201cI am enough. I am enough.\u201d I stood there and did not chant it back, because I truly don\u2019t believe that I am enough. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I look at Scripture\u2014when I look at the Bible, which is my rule for living\u2014I just don\u2019t see it there. I don\u2019t see that we were ever meant to be enough on our own. If we were, we wouldn\u2019t need Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I might have\u2014at that conference\u2014stood up and just shouted, \u201cJesus is enough!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Because that\u2019s the real message of the Scriptures. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke<\/strong>: Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But He made us to be dependent on Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And dependent on others, and especially in this season when moms are raising boys or girls, I think one of the things that\u2019s often missing from what moms are going through is they get isolated from other moms\u2014from other people. That isolation can kill you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke: <\/strong>Absolutely! I know that was true for me in the very beginning. Some of it was based on the fact that I came into my motherhood very prideful. I had been a very goal-oriented person. By the time we had our first son, I had checked off every major life accomplishment that I had planned for myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You were on track for a PhD. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> I was on track for a PhD. In fact, I was working on my PhD when I got pregnant with our first son and was so sick during that pregnancy that I ended up dropping out of the program. I still would love to go back and do that. It\u2019s still something that I would love to do at some point. But my children literally changed the entire course and direction of my life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A lot of moms experience that and become resentful or they experience it and say, \u201cI got to figure out a way to have both areas of my life work for me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So why didn\u2019t either of those happen with you\u2014or did you become resentful for a while?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, I did\u2014I did for a little while\u2014not so much that I wasn\u2019t being able to pursue my original dreams.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think there was a season of my life where I realized I needed to be willing as a Christian\u2014as a believer\u2014a follower of Christ\u2014first and foremost; right? Like, that\u2018s my real identity\u2014\u201cMother\u201d is a secondary identity for me to that\u2014so if I am going to call myself a follower of Christ\u2014I have to be willing to <em>be<\/em> a follower of Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat means that I need to allow God to <em>change<\/em> my dreams for my life\u2014or even lay them down for a season\u2014then I want to do that\u2014because that\u2019s what my Savior asks of me to do. But I think for a lot of moms, they get messed up in understanding there the difference between their purpose and their gifts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you look at the beginning of the Book of Acts\u2014in chapters 6 and 7, we learn\u2014we start to learn a little bit about Stephen. Of course we know Stephen was one of the first\u2014or was the first Christian martyr. The reason that Stephen was chosen to serve in the church\u2014if you look in chapter 6\u2014the disciples are increasing in number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe men who were in charge found that they needed to bring other men alongside them to do some of the work of the church\u2014so that they could be free to go and preach the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The first deacons; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> So Stephen was one of those that was chosen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They looked at him. They found him worthy of that position. They\u2014they saw his giftings and his talents as a man\u2014then raised him up to that position. But we actually\u2014we don\u2019t know the whole story from Scripture. We don\u2019t see a lot of him actually functioning in that role as it\u2019s relayed in Scripture. What we see next is that Stephen is seized. Then he gives this glorious speech that ends up getting him killed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think Stephen is a fantastic picture of the difference between our purpose and our gifting. We are all given gifts\u2014God has given all of us gifts to use for His glory in the body of Christ to serve other people\u2014but that\u2019s different from our purpose. Stephen\u2019s purpose and our purpose\u2014whether you are a mother or a father or an aunt or an uncle makes no difference, whatsoever\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014if you are a believer, your purpose is to be poured out for the sake of the glory of God. That is your purpose. Sometimes that includes your gifts\u2014and sometimes it doesn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor me, it was the realization that my purpose was to be poured out\u2014in whatever way God was calling me to do that in that season of my life. There might be a time later\u2014there might even be a time <em>in<\/em> that pouring out\u2014that God would allow me to still use the gifts that He gave me. Whatever season I was in, I needed to be open to being poured out for God\u2019s glory.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That means sometimes laying aside things that you delight in\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke<\/strong>: That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014for the sake of things that God has given you that may be tedious\u2014mundane. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Like raising a child maybe? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Things that can seem insignificant\u2014and you understand this, Brooke. For a mom when you\u2019re going through the daily-ness with toddlers, you don\u2019t think you\u2019re doing anything glorious. You don\u2019t think you\u2019re seeing the kingdom develop.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll you think is, \u201cI\u2019m working hard and this kids barely surviving and that\u2019s all we\u2019ve got.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: Yes. In fact, the opposite may be occurring. This little child you\u2019re pouring your life into may grow up and take it out on another kid. That occurred with one of your boys\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> It did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014who sent another boy to the E.R., and you had nothing\u2014you had no knowledge of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t even know it happened. He didn\u2019t know it happened. He didn\u2019t realize. You know\u2014he was very young at the time. He was just playing. He didn\u2019t understand that what he was doing was actually hurting someone. In his defense, all the boys were kind of being rough in that way. It just so happened\u2014that he was the one that sent somebody to the E.R. But it was\u2014it was a crazy thing for me\u2014as a mom\u2014to try and process. It was really just one more thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What happened? Tell the story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Sure. Yes. We\u2019d spend a lot of time at the pool in the summer. My children are fish. They\u2019re just happier at the pool. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery time we don\u2019t go to the pool, I say to myself why did we not go to the pool today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes\u2014right! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> We spend a lot of time there. One day I was doing laps. This particular pool that we have, observed adult swim. I thought I would be really fantastic and exercise while my kids were outside of the pool playing. I\u2019m swimming laps doing a couple at a time and then stopping in between to hyperventilate. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was stopped at one point trying to catch my breath, and I overheard some moms that were right beside me having a heated conversation with another child. This child was looking down at his mother who was in the water and he said, \u201cMom, he did it again.\u201d I heard her talking to him trying to get the story. He described what the attacker was wearing and my heart just sank when I realized he was talking about my son.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought, \u201cOkay, Brooke, we\u2019ve got to\u2014we\u2019ve got to go over here and handle this because this is not good.\u201d I didn\u2019t know what had happened yet, but I knew it wasn\u2019t good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI walked over to her. It was really humbling for me, because she was in a Bible study that was studying one of my other books at the time. [Laughter] It was very humbling for me. I walked over to her and I said, \u201cCan you tell me\u2014I know you\u2019re talking about my son\u2014can you please tell me what happened?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cWell, I\u2019m very sorry to tell you this, but yesterday when our sons were playing in the water, your son punched him and kneed him in the chest and we\u2014he was in so much pain that we had to take him to the E.R. last night. Thankfully he\u2019s just bruised\u2014but we thought something was broken\u2014and my son has just come to tell me that he did it again today.\u201d And I\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke: <\/strong>\u2014stood there and absorbed it\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> [Laughter] \u2014with just feeling like my whole world had fallen apart, because I fight for this boy on a regular basis. He\u2014when he was very little\u2014the Lord showed me that he was a fighter and that I need to fight <em>for<\/em> him and not against him. I have fought for him in prayer. I have fought for him in word. I have fought for him in deed\u2014in <em>so<\/em> <em>many ways<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn that moment it was just one more thing I had failed\u2014because I took it all on myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI went and got him and pulled him aside. I told him what had happened. He was completely shocked. He had no idea that what he had done had caused this kind of damage in somebody\u2019s life. The little boy was fine. There was\u2014it was nothing major, but it was a big deal for me. He told me they were all playing and we worked it out\u2014but it was\u2014it was very, very challenging for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What you\u2019re talking about there is\u2026seeing disappointment in the product of what you\u2019re trying to create in a child. I got to tell every mom listening. You\u2019re\u2014you\u2019re not dealing with a robot here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re raising sons and daughters who are born broken\u2014born selfish. What you have to realize is your purpose is still the same. It is about honoring God, doing the right thing, training them in their character and relationships, and teaching them how to follow Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou mention in your book that you call moms to realize who they are as followers of Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. I think that\u2019s the most important thing we can do as moms, because when you\u2019re in that situation\u2014I know this is true for me\u2014the enemy throws fiery darts at us, right? For me, sometimes what that is\u2014is him saying, \u201cYou can\u2019t do this. You\u2019re a failure. Your kids are going to end up in prison. You\u2019re never going to make any difference in their lives. They\u2019re always going to be this way.\u201d A lot of those \u201calways\u201d and \u201cnever\u201d words; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> \u2014that just break us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They break us as moms and dads\u2014because we so badly want that our children to know the Lord and follow hard after him. We\u2019re trying with all that we have to believe that God <em>can<\/em> do this work in their hearts, but the day-to-day grind of it can be very disappointing and very difficult to deal with. For me, I have to tell myself the truth over and over and over again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had to begin to recognize when the enemy was lying to me and replace that\u2014actively replace that. In the beginning, sometimes that looked like for me to say, \u201cNo!\u201d out loud\u2014like\u2014just out loud. If you\u2019d been standing outside of my house, you would have thought I was crazy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So a thought pops into your head\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBrooke: Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and you just say, \u201cNo.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> \u201cNo, no that\u2019s not true. <em>This<\/em> is what the Word of God says about me and I\u2019m going to choose to believe that instead.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The thesis of you book is that the parenting process\u2014and especially for moms in the midst of discouragement and\u2014and the mundaneness and the loss of dream and vision that moms sometimes experience\u2014that the gospel speaks to that. I think people hear that and they go, \u201cThat does not make sense to me. The gospel speaks to how I come to faith in Christ.\u201d How does the gospel speak to anxiety or failure as a mother?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. It\u2019s a great question and I think it\u2019s such an important one in our culture today. We know that the gospel is our way for salvation; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re really good\u2014we\u2019ve gotten great\u2014at churches\u2014at telling people about the gospel and getting them saved\u2014but the gospel is more than that. The gospel is not just our one-trip ticket to heaven. It is the way we live our life. It is the standard above all standards for our behavior and our world view\u2014just even the way we see ourselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod wants to show us who He is, but He wants us to look at who we are through the lens of the gospel\u2014through the lens of His Word. That has to be our worldview because we will always live what we believe\u2014always. If we are not believing the truth about what the Word of God says, then we will always fall short of the freedom that we can have in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Brooke, are you\u2014are you shooting for two or three things in each of your boys that you want to build into them\u2014that if they grasp it and practice it in their lives, you will consider your job\u2014your work\u2014the tireless work of a mother\u2014you will have been successful?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. There are two things that pop into my mind right away. One is that I want to teach my boys to go to God in prayer for everything. Prayer is such an important part of my personal journey as a mom and as a person. I want to teach them the power of prayer. That\u2019s a huge thing in our home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI also want to teach them to be the kind of man that admits when they\u2019re wrong. I want them to be strong enough in who they are and in who God is in their lives that they can be humble\u2014that they can ask for forgiveness\u2014and that they can be weak in front of other people so that God can be strong.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: You know what you\u2019re talking about there is what Proverbs speaks about as a father counsels his son about not being arrogant, but expressing humility and asking God for wisdom. In order to pray, you have to admit there\u2019s someone in authority that you submit to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other issue you talked about just in terms of pride and arrogance\u2014that too has to have humility in order to operate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s one of the things you keep doing as a mom or a dad with your sons and your daughters is you help them realize when they have been arrogant\u2014when they\u2019ve been\u2014perhaps thinking too highly of themselves. You help them think rightly of themselves\u2014to relate with respect with their brothers, their sisters and other people outside the home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow this all is easy to talk about in here, but in the tireless pursuit of those two objectives you talked about, Brooke, it wears you out and it wears you down. Again you\u2019re not dealing with perfection here. It\u2019s not something you can say, \u201cWell, I did, I did it. I\u2019ve grown those qualities in my sons. I\u2019m done.\u201d No\u2014it\u2019s a lifetime process. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> It is. It is. But I think it\u2019s important to hold the standard high. I think our\u2014there\u2019s too many occasions in our culture where Christians have lowered the bar and said, \u201cI can\u2019t do that so I\u2019m not even going to try.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just am going to set those high standards and I\u2019m going try to model them for my sons\u2014my husband tries to model them for our sons. That is one of the best ways that we can teach our kids to <em>be<\/em> those kind of people is to <em>be<\/em> those kind of people ourselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a mom say to me one time, \u201cI would never ask my son or my daughter to forgive me\u2014never! That undermines my authority.\u201d It just broke my heart, because I want my children to <em>know<\/em> that Momma needs Jesus <em>just<\/em> as much as they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> They have to know that I am a sinner <em>just<\/em> like they are or they\u2019re not going to know\u2014they\u2019re not going to be able to see how much they need Jesus, too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s one of the key things that Jessica Thompson shared in the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>TM<\/sup> video series that we just completed. She says, \u201cIt\u2019s on repeat at our home, \u2018I\u2019m a sinner just like you. I\u2019m a sinner just like you.\u2019\u201d Unless parents demonstrate for their kids\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014what confession and repentance looks like, kids are not going to learn how to confess and repent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the video series that we created, we\u2019ve got a lot of people who talk about the fact that we train our kids to avoid sin and then conceal sin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t train them to confess sin and then repent of sin and experience God\u2019s grace for their sin. But to train them with that, they\u2019ve got to see Mom and Dad doing that, as well. I think you\u2019re absolutely right. Your friend needs to go and apologize for not apologizing for all those years. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well and what our children need to see is not just us apologizing to our spouse and asking our spouse to forgive us around something they\u2019ve seen us do\u2014maybe a sharp answer or anger or something hurtful we\u2019ve said where they\u2019ve witnessed it\u2014but they also need us to get down on one knee and look them eyeball to eyeball, as I\u2019ve done on more than one occasion with a three-year old, a five-year old, a ten-year old. Then when they grow up you don\u2019t need to get down on one knee. You just look them face to face, and eye to eye and say, \u201cI\u2019m sorry, son. I\u2019m sorry, sweetie.\u201c\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI wasn\u2019t right; my response to you was inappropriate. Will you forgive me?\u201d We\u2019re really modeling in that point really what is at the heart of the gospel\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brooke:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014which is forgiveness, redemption, reconciliation, and hope.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes\u2014and we\u2019ve got to be reminded of that regularly because\u2014as Martin Luther said\u2014he said, \u201cEvery week I preach the gospel because every week I forget it.\u201d We do that as parents as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m grateful, Brooke, that you\u2019ve written the book, <em>Gospel Centered Mom: The Freeing Truth about What Your Kids Really Need. <\/em>We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order the book from us today on FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to get a copy of the book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course what you\u2019re writing about is at the heart of the video series that we put together called <em>FamilyLife\u2019s<\/em> <em>Art of Parenting<\/em>\u2122.That video series is being used by a lot of churches this fall. They\u2019re starting parenting groups or parenting classes in their church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of them are using our movie <em>Like Arrows<\/em> as a kick-off event this fall and then getting groups started from that. If you\u2019d like more information about the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> video curriculum or about the free online <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> content that you can go through, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. The information is all available there. Again, the website\u2014FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSpeaking of the<em> Art of Parenting<\/em>, we are waiting, Dennis, for the book that you and Barbara have written by that title to arrive. In fact, many of our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners have gotten in touch with us this month to make a contribution. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a matching-gift campaign going on. Anytime somebody makes a donation during the month of August their donation is going to be doubled, dollar-for-dollar, and we\u2019re going to send them a copy of your new book <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em> as soon as it arrives. They\u2019ll be among the first to get a copy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are grateful for those of you who support the work of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe month of August is a key strategic time for us. As the summer is ending, our fiscal year is ending this month, as well. Your donation this month will be a great help to us as a ministry. You can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014or you can call to donate\u20141-800-FL-TODAY is the number. We just want to say thanks in advance for your partnership with us and your financial support.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also want you to let you know that we\u2019ve got something special planned for our Legacy Partners. It\u2019s happening three weeks from today. Dennis and Barbara and <em>FamilyLife<\/em>\u00ae President David Robbins and his wife Meg and I are all going to get together for a special Legacy Partner Connect\u2014an interactive event where we\u2019ll connect by phone and talk about parenting issues that moms and dads are facing these days. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you are a Legacy Partner\u2014or if you\u2019d like to find out more about becoming a Legacy Partner and connecting on the call, being able to interact with us\u2014you can find out more about joining with us when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY and ask about the Legacy Partner Connect event.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain it\u2019s Thursday night, September 6<sup>th<\/sup>. It\u2019ll happen at 7 pm central. We\u2019ll call you, so all you have to do is be by your phone and be ready when we make the call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to encourage you to be back with us again tomorrow. 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