{"id":300297,"date":"2018-07-16T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-07-16T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/dont-be-a-conversation-short\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:41:28","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:41:28","slug":"dont-be-a-conversation-short","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/dont-be-a-conversation-short\/","title":{"rendered":"Don&#8217;t Be a Conversation Short"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Bible has plenty to say to your kids about sex and marriage, says author Josh Mulvihill. 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Josh Mulvihill says we need to help our children start thinking correctly about marriage, even when they\u2019re young, including basic building blocks\/foundational principles, like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> God designed marriage, so God gets to define marriage. It\u2019s critical that our children understand that God is the Creator, and God gets to define that. If, on that point, they don\u2019t have a settled conviction there, all the other dominos behind that fall in the wrong direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, July 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. As parents, we should start early preparing our children for marriage. We\u2019ll talk with Josh Mulvihill about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. Mary Ann and I just recently sat down with a young couple in our church, who are headed toward marriage. We had a chance to help with their premarital preparation. We got them copies of the book that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> put together, <em>Preparing for Marriage, <\/em>and started working through that with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut it occurred to me that, if the first time you start preparing your kids for marriage is in premarital preparation, you\u2019re probably a little behind the game; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019re putting them behind the curve.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No doubt about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur guest would agree with you, Bob. Josh Mulvihill joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Welcome back, Josh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> It is great to be here!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Josh has written a book called <em>Preparing Children for Marriage: How to Teach God\u2019s Good Design for Marriage, Sex, Purity, and Dating<\/em>. All of a sudden, there are some parents who turned their ear toward the radio. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They turned the radio up a little.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This is where a lot of people are living right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just tell you a little about who Josh is\u2014he is the Executive Director for Church and Family Ministry at Renewanation. He and his wife, Jen, have five children and have been married since 2000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJosh, you had a mom come to you one time\u2014this is kind of how you got started or, at least, one of the things God touched your life with in terms of piquing your interest in marriage preparation starting at home, with parents. You had a mom, who said, \u201cI need a book for \u2018The Talk,\u2019\u201d\u2014the sex ed talk. She wanted you to point her to a book. What did you say to her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes; I said: \u201cLet me look for something that\u2019s broader than just \u2018The Talk,\u2019 that you can begin to teach the foundational teachings of the Bible related to where the talk\u2019s headed, ultimately, in marriage. We want to begin there since dating and \u2018The Talk\u2019 are just an on-ramp to that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a hard time finding something that I could hand to that mother. It ended up resulting in what we\u2019re talking about today, because the whole ball of wax is one that needs to be dealt with together; meaning, you know, we have been given a lot of resources on the purity and puberty side of things\u2014that needs to be part of the conversation\u2014but it\u2019s definitely not the entirety.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Your book is titled <em>Preparing Children for Marriage<\/em>. I think the place where most of us, as parents, start with that is talking about sexuality. Is that the right place to be starting when we\u2019re trying to prepare our kids for marriage?\u2014to have the sex talk, or a series of sex talks, with them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> I like to start with Genesis 2:24, because that\u2019s where God starts; but if a child comes in with a sexuality question, or the opportunity presents itself, I certainly will go there with a child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInterestingly enough, when we look at Scripture, there is a <em>lot <\/em>on both of those subjects\u2014both for marriage and sexuality\u2014that we see in Scripture with children; and I don\u2019t think sometimes that\u2019s recognized. So, on the marriage front, we can look, cover to cover, from the Bible; and we can see kids taught that subject all the way from Genesis through \/ into the epistles.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of my favorite passages is this passage\u2014it is Joshua 8:35, which talks about how Moses read the Law to the whole community, which included the sojourner, the woman, <em>and<\/em> the child. It said, \u201cThere was not a word of it that Moses didn\u2019t read.\u201d I take that literally, meaning that the Law\u2014at a minimum, the Law and the first five books of the Bible\u2014were read, which means\u2014that\u2019s part of Genesis and all the other stuff marriage-related in that section. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, of course, in Deuteronomy we have a command\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014a very specific command\u2014to \u201cteach these things to your children and your children\u2019s children.\u201d Parents and grandparents are included in that\u2014that\u2019s Deuteronomy 4. Moses had a very specific thought in mind when he said that. What are the <em>things <\/em>that we are to teach them? Well, he was referencing the Ten Commandments. Many parents like to think about the commandment to obey, and the commandment to not steal and not lie; but there are a couple other commandments in there specifically related to the topic we\u2019re talking about today that parents and grandparents are commanded to instruct on and to model before the next generation\u2014and that\u2019s commandments seven and ten. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So you\u2019re, actually, not encouraging moms and dads to, at the dinner table tonight, to pull open the Pentateuch\u2014the first five books of the Bible\u2014and to begin reading them to their kids as a way of preparation for marriage. That\u2019s why you wrote this book; isn\u2019t it?\u2014to break it down into pieces and talk about: \u201cWhat does the Bible say about each of these components that truly make up a great marriage?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh: <\/strong>Yes; we need to start having some of these just little bite-sized, everyday conversations. When we understand what God expects of us and the ways that He has put these kinds of tools in our hands, as parents\u2014and, by the tools, I mean that God doesn\u2019t call us to a task that He doesn\u2019t equip us for, as parents and as grandparents. He has given that to us in Scripture, and we can be confident to go where God has gone with kids in the Bible\u2014we can do that with our own. Our words, simply, can be God\u2019s Words that He speaks to kids on these subject matters in the Bible as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Josh, your kids are\u2014you\u2019ve got five. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Five kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What are their ages?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> The oldest is 12; the youngest is 3. They\u2019re spaced about two years in-between.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; so if we took your five- or six-year-old today\u2014boy or girl?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> The six-year-old is a girl.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; so you\u2019ve got a\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He had to stop and think about that, Bob!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I understand! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes! Five kids!!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s what happens when you have a bunch of them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, with your six-year-old daughter, are you being intentional and proactive in terms of trying to prepare her, or are you being responsive, or both? If you\u2019re being proactive, what does that look like for you, as a father?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes, both. As we just read through Scripture with our family, these topics come up and present opportunities, as parents, to talk about them. With Genesis 2:24, for example\u2014with our kids, we talk about it as \u201cGod\u2019s definition for marriage: one man\/one woman for life.\u201d With a six-year-old, I might say, \u201cKate, God\u2019s design for you is to marry a boy and not a girl.\u201d We\u2019ve had those kinds of conversations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat has then come out in the responsive way as well. We were at a cabin and one of the other families\u2014their about-six-year-old daughter was playing with my daughter. Kate came back in and said, \u201cWhen I get older, Victoria said that we could marry each other,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you know, just kind of an off-the-cuff comment during lunch, which provided a great opportunity to then <em>reinvest<\/em> in these kinds of truths from Scripture with Kate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose opportunities present themselves every day\u2014with the things our kids watch, the people they spend time with, the things that they\u2019re reading\u2014they\u2019re all over the place, especially, with where our culture has gone\u2014as parents. I like to say it\u2019s the missionary zeal of our sex-saturated culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe example I give with my own boys is this idea of <em>Star Wars<\/em>. My boys did not see the newest versions of <em>Star Wars<\/em> \/ the newest releases until just a couple of years ago; but if you talked to them, you would have thought they knew\u2014had seen those movies ten times; because they knew the stories \/ the characters\u2014they could quote everything\u2014because our culture is saturated with <em>Star Wars<\/em>\u2014it was all over. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd the same is true with sex for our kids\u2014it\u2019s everywhere\u2014so it necessitates some of these early and often conversations; because if we don\u2019t, others will. We know those conversations are happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you just don\u2019t know what\u2019s taking place with your kids today. One mom came to you, who had found out her 12-year-old son was video-chatting with a young lady online. What exactly happened there? I don\u2019t remember exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> An innocent conversation on the phone\u2014a video chat\u2014one classmate to another. The child bared herself to the son, and the son wasn\u2019t prepared for it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Of course, the fall-out was pretty significant. The comment that the mom made was, \u201cWe found that we were one conversation short.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The mom said that?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What did she mean by that? I mean, what exactly would you encourage a mom or a dad to have done by the time their child is 12 years old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> So the critical conversations that parents need to be having with their children: \u201cWhat is marriage? What\u2019s the role of a husband and wife? What is the purpose and meaning of sex? What does it mean to be a boy or a girl?\u201d God lays all of those out very clearly in Scripture and equips families to have those conversations with their children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn a pure, basic \u201cLet\u2019s-boil-this-down\u201d conversation, I think three passages are critical and pretty easy for families to say, \u201cOkay; let\u2019s zero in around these.\u201d Genesis 2:24, which has already been mentioned\u2014that\u2019s God\u2019s definition for marriage. God designed marriage, so God gets to define marriage. It\u2019s critical that our children understand that God is the Creator, and God gets to define that. If, on that point\u2014if they don\u2019t have a settled conviction there, all the other dominos behind that fall in the wrong direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I just want to add here\u2014Jesus affirmed the Genesis 2:24 definition\u2014so anybody who\u2019s wondering, \u201cDid Jesus ever say anything about homosexuality or about gay marriage?\u201d He did!\u2014He affirmed [biblical marriage]. When He was asked about divorce, He said, \u201cHaven\u2019t you read in the beginning what it was said, that \u2018\u2026a man shall leave father and mother and cleave to his wife\u2019?\u201d This is God\u2019s definition, and Jesus affirms it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What are the other two passages here, Josh?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes; the other two are Ephesians 5:22-33, which talks about the husband and the wife\u2019s role. With young people, I like to talk about that in a question; so I, with our boys\u2014we have three\u2014we ask them a question that helps them understand their role as a future husband. That question is: \u201cHow can I <em>serve<\/em> you?\u201d which gets at the heart of what God\u2019s role is for husbands\u2014sacrificial servant leadership. We affirm our boys when we start seeing forms of service as leadership\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that, then, translates over into their future marriage role. For our two daughters, the question we ask is: \u201cHow can I help you?\u201d That, then, helps translate into a future wife role. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, in general, some of our children may not get married\u2014God may have a call of singleness on them. That is to be elevated and celebrated just as much as marriage is. Those questions <em>still<\/em> apply for our young men and our young women, as they can ask those questions to those whom they are leading and serving, as well, in whatever sphere God has for them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; Genesis 2, Ephesians 5\u2014what\u2019s the other one?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Proverbs 5\u2014and you could add 6 and 7. Proverbs\u2014I\u2019ve calculated\u2014it is about ten percent or so of the book, roughly, deals with the subject matters of marriage, dating, sexuality. That\u2019s quite a bit of real estate for the only book of the Bible that is written directly to young people \/ to children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tProverbs 5 is a pretty steamy passage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Gritty!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Gritty; yes. But God, in His wisdom, captured a father having \u201cthe talks\u201d\u2014not just \u201cThe Talk\u201d\u2014but \u201cthe talks\u201d with his son. You know, in this setting, the son is a little older; but Proverbs 5 is a <em>wonderful<\/em> model.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you say, \u201cHow do I <em>do <\/em>this with my child?\u201d God actually put that in the Bible for us. I <em>love <\/em>walking through Proverbs 5 with families\u2014to say: \u201cCapture the essence of this. It\u2019s important to look at what God says and doesn\u2019t say, both with the warnings\u2014there are some pretty strong warnings in there; and that\u2019s meant to help our young people make wise and good godly decisions and consider the cost; because there is a price tag, sexually\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but also, then, to capture the blessings and the joys of making godly sexual decisions, having sexual self-control. Our kids, many times, get presented with a lot of the don\u2019ts and the negative side, without the positive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Here, God balances that. It\u2019s a weighty passage with the \u201cdon\u2019ts,\u201d but it is also a really joyful passage with\u2014in Proverbs 5, God uses the phrase, \u201cblessed,\u201d meaning: \u201cYou\u2019re going to be happy <em>if...<\/em>\u201d It gets to the reality that, underneath a lot of the decisions our young people make, is a reminder that they\u2019re on a quest for happiness. They\u2019re making a certain decision, because they believe the outcome is going to be their happiness\u2014only to be given these examples in Scripture to say: \u201cGod\u2019s best for you is not to be choosing outside of the parameters that He\u2019s creating. You\u2019re going to be happiest when you choose to walk in the path that God has laid out and make these decisions that are in obedience to His Word.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Josh, you don\u2019t know this, I don\u2019t think, but Dennis wrote a book for parents, years ago, called <em>Aggressive Girls, Clueless Boys.<\/em> That book is Proverbs 5, 6, and 7\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Oh, it is? That\u2019s great.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014for a father to sit down \/ or for a mother to sit down with a son and say, \u201cSon, there are aggressive women.\u201d In our day, this has just exponentially increased.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, this story that Josh tells in his book\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that a 12-year-old <em>girl<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014exposed herself to another 12-year-old boy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean, how much of this should a parent be preparing their children for, Josh?\u2014because it really isn\u2019t a matter of <em>if <\/em>they\u2019re going to see pornography \/ <em>if <\/em>there\u2019s going to be exposure. It\u2019s going to be a matter of when, and what you do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Covenant Eyes has a statistic that, at a minimum, 50 percent will have exposure to pornography by the age of 12. For many, it\u2019s much earlier than that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was a Children\u2019s and Family Pastor for many years. I would have plenty of families in my office\u2014in the K through 2<sup>nd<\/sup>-grade range\u2014who said: \u201cMy child has had this experience. What do I do? Help!\u201d But, for sure, Covenant Eyes also says that upwards of 90 percent of boys and 65 percent of girls, by the age of 18. You\u2019re absolutely correct, Dennis. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what\u2019s the best preventative? Obviously, you\u2019re going to teach the Scripture; but they\u2019re going to see it. Coach a parent in what he or she can do to prepare their child to know what to do when it happens.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> We live in the age of the overexposed child. Obviously, one of the main places that that is coming in is through technology into our homes\u2014whether that\u2019s television, whether that\u2019s video games, whether that\u2019s personal devices like phones and iPads<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, or the internet as well. Measures have to be taken in all of those to place some filters and parameters on those.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, with personal devices\u2014which is what I experienced as a pastor\u2014that a lot of the exposure happened with young children. Parents would give, with good intentions, a phone that had internet on it\u2014capabilities\u2014or an iPad<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. In that, they were giving their child the gift of pornography\u2014not intending to do that\u2014but the child often stumbled on it by accident or when doing homework, and then it was a catch-up piece for the parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of my encouragements is to either delay the giving of devices until much later; because our kids\u2014like our kids use ours\u2014it\u2019s not that they\u2019re not on them\u2014but they use them in our presence. This is all the way up through our child, who is 12. We\u2019ve just begun having a conversation\u2014Jen and I\u2014about a phone for our 12-year-old. It will probably be one that has no internet opportunities on it; and then, when that becomes the reality in our home\u2014when our kids are using those components\u2014there have to be filters \/ there have to be limitations.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m continually amazed at how many <em>don\u2019t<\/em> have that [filters and limitations]. Just that basic step is <em>huge<\/em>; and in that, there has to be accountability from parents, talking with their children about what they\u2019re doing on the computers and their devices; so that there\u2019s an awareness that is there\u2014where their kids are and where their kids are not. If those steps are taken, that, at least, puts a good foundation in place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not, as you said, it is not \u201c<em>If\u2026<\/em>\u201d but \u201c<em>When<\/em>\u2026\u201d\u2014so we want our kids to be prepared for it. As we are having preparation with our young people, it\u2019s really the preparation that\u2019s happening in their heart; because it could be any type of technology device, but it could be a whole lot of other things as well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> \u2014in print; it could be what they\u2019re seeing in other spheres. If the battleground of the heart is won, then that playground\u2014whether it\u2019s those areas or others\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014becomes a much easier piece for us to navigate with our young people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s how we\u2019ve navigated that with our kids\u2014the more we can help our children see the beauty and the grandness of who God is and who Christ is, the less they will want to pursue other elements. I think that\u2014it doesn\u2019t, obviously, negate that altogether\u2014but, man, it sure minimizes the temptation and the allure that would be there if that wasn\u2019t the case.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019ve talked a little bit on the broadcast today about Proverbs 5, 6, and 7. I just want to read the beginning of it; because I think it\u2019s very instructive to dads, but also to moms. Listen to how this Scripture begins: \u201cMy son, be attentive to my wisdom.\u201d It\u2019s kind of like [tapping sound]: \u201cListen up! I\u2019m about to give you something important, son! Really! Listen! This is life or death!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t20:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe goes on: \u201cIncline your ear to my understanding,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m older. I\u2019ve been around the block a couple of times. I know you may think I\u2019m getting dumb; but you need to listen carefully, because I have some understanding!\u2014he says, \u201cthat you keep\u00a0discretion, and your lips may\u00a0guard knowledge, for the lips of\u00a0a forbidden\u00a0woman drip honey, and her speech\u00a0is\u00a0smoother than oil, but in the end she is\u00a0as bitter as\u00a0wormwood,\u201d\u2014so, son, listen carefully what I\u2019m telling you; because this is going to be an issue for you, all the way from puberty until the grave. This is an important issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to tell you: \u201cParents, you\u2019ve got to do this! You\u2019ve got to have these talks; not just \u2018The Talk\u2019; you\u2019ve got to have a thousand talks by the time you launch your arrow toward the target.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t21:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob: Well, and you\u2019ve got to be strategic, and intentional, and purposeful\u2014that\u2019s what you\u2019re saying. You\u2019ve got to have a plan, as parents, for how you\u2019re going to engage with your children on the subject, not just of human sexuality, but on all kinds of relational issues that are going to be a part of their life as they head toward marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJosh, you do a great job of talking about all of these issues in your book, Preparing Children for Marriage: How to Teach God\u2019s Good Design for Marriage, Sex, Purity, and Dating. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of parents, as you guys both know, have used the Passport2Purity\u00ae and Passport2Identity\u2122 resources as a way to have a foundational experience with their children that helps spawn all kinds of other conversations on the subject of sexuality, and dating, and relationships. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t22:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have those resources available, here, at FamilyLife. If you have a child, who is pre-adolescent or one who is in his or her early teen years, check out the Passport2Purity and Passport2Identity resources; and then think about a getaway time with your kid, where you can go through this content with them and help get them ready for what\u2019s ahead for them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, we\u2019ve had so many parents, over the years, who have told us, that when it comes to issues like this, they have found help, and encouragement, and guidance from the resources we provide \/ from things they hear every day on FamilyLife Today. 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He also shares preventative measures parents need to consider to protect their children from exposure to porn.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2018-07-16.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Our children will likely, someday, be married; and even if they\u2019re not, they\u2019re going to have thoughts about marriage. Josh Mulvihill says we need to help our children start thinking correctly about marriage, even when they\u2019re young, including basic building blocks\/foundational principles, like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> God designed marriage, so God gets to define marriage. It\u2019s critical that our children understand that God is the Creator, and God gets to define that. If, on that point, they don\u2019t have a settled conviction there, all the other dominos behind that fall in the wrong direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, July 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. As parents, we should start early preparing our children for marriage. We\u2019ll talk with Josh Mulvihill about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. Mary Ann and I just recently sat down with a young couple in our church, who are headed toward marriage. We had a chance to help with their premarital preparation. We got them copies of the book that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> put together, <em>Preparing for Marriage, <\/em>and started working through that with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut it occurred to me that, if the first time you start preparing your kids for marriage is in premarital preparation, you\u2019re probably a little behind the game; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019re putting them behind the curve.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No doubt about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur guest would agree with you, Bob. Josh Mulvihill joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Welcome back, Josh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> It is great to be here!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Josh has written a book called <em>Preparing Children for Marriage: How to Teach God\u2019s Good Design for Marriage, Sex, Purity, and Dating<\/em>. All of a sudden, there are some parents who turned their ear toward the radio. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They turned the radio up a little.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This is where a lot of people are living right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just tell you a little about who Josh is\u2014he is the Executive Director for Church and Family Ministry at Renewanation. He and his wife, Jen, have five children and have been married since 2000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJosh, you had a mom come to you one time\u2014this is kind of how you got started or, at least, one of the things God touched your life with in terms of piquing your interest in marriage preparation starting at home, with parents. You had a mom, who said, \u201cI need a book for \u2018The Talk,\u2019\u201d\u2014the sex ed talk. She wanted you to point her to a book. What did you say to her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes; I said: \u201cLet me look for something that\u2019s broader than just \u2018The Talk,\u2019 that you can begin to teach the foundational teachings of the Bible related to where the talk\u2019s headed, ultimately, in marriage. We want to begin there since dating and \u2018The Talk\u2019 are just an on-ramp to that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a hard time finding something that I could hand to that mother. It ended up resulting in what we\u2019re talking about today, because the whole ball of wax is one that needs to be dealt with together; meaning, you know, we have been given a lot of resources on the purity and puberty side of things\u2014that needs to be part of the conversation\u2014but it\u2019s definitely not the entirety.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Your book is titled <em>Preparing Children for Marriage<\/em>. I think the place where most of us, as parents, start with that is talking about sexuality. Is that the right place to be starting when we\u2019re trying to prepare our kids for marriage?\u2014to have the sex talk, or a series of sex talks, with them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> I like to start with Genesis 2:24, because that\u2019s where God starts; but if a child comes in with a sexuality question, or the opportunity presents itself, I certainly will go there with a child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInterestingly enough, when we look at Scripture, there is a <em>lot <\/em>on both of those subjects\u2014both for marriage and sexuality\u2014that we see in Scripture with children; and I don\u2019t think sometimes that\u2019s recognized. So, on the marriage front, we can look, cover to cover, from the Bible; and we can see kids taught that subject all the way from Genesis through \/ into the epistles.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of my favorite passages is this passage\u2014it is Joshua 8:35, which talks about how Moses read the Law to the whole community, which included the sojourner, the woman, <em>and<\/em> the child. It said, \u201cThere was not a word of it that Moses didn\u2019t read.\u201d I take that literally, meaning that the Law\u2014at a minimum, the Law and the first five books of the Bible\u2014were read, which means\u2014that\u2019s part of Genesis and all the other stuff marriage-related in that section. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, of course, in Deuteronomy we have a command\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014a very specific command\u2014to \u201cteach these things to your children and your children\u2019s children.\u201d Parents and grandparents are included in that\u2014that\u2019s Deuteronomy 4. Moses had a very specific thought in mind when he said that. What are the <em>things <\/em>that we are to teach them? Well, he was referencing the Ten Commandments. Many parents like to think about the commandment to obey, and the commandment to not steal and not lie; but there are a couple other commandments in there specifically related to the topic we\u2019re talking about today that parents and grandparents are commanded to instruct on and to model before the next generation\u2014and that\u2019s commandments seven and ten. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So you\u2019re, actually, not encouraging moms and dads to, at the dinner table tonight, to pull open the Pentateuch\u2014the first five books of the Bible\u2014and to begin reading them to their kids as a way of preparation for marriage. That\u2019s why you wrote this book; isn\u2019t it?\u2014to break it down into pieces and talk about: \u201cWhat does the Bible say about each of these components that truly make up a great marriage?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh: <\/strong>Yes; we need to start having some of these just little bite-sized, everyday conversations. When we understand what God expects of us and the ways that He has put these kinds of tools in our hands, as parents\u2014and, by the tools, I mean that God doesn\u2019t call us to a task that He doesn\u2019t equip us for, as parents and as grandparents. He has given that to us in Scripture, and we can be confident to go where God has gone with kids in the Bible\u2014we can do that with our own. Our words, simply, can be God\u2019s Words that He speaks to kids on these subject matters in the Bible as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Josh, your kids are\u2014you\u2019ve got five. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Five kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What are their ages?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> The oldest is 12; the youngest is 3. They\u2019re spaced about two years in-between.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; so if we took your five- or six-year-old today\u2014boy or girl?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> The six-year-old is a girl.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; so you\u2019ve got a\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He had to stop and think about that, Bob!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I understand! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes! Five kids!!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s what happens when you have a bunch of them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, with your six-year-old daughter, are you being intentional and proactive in terms of trying to prepare her, or are you being responsive, or both? If you\u2019re being proactive, what does that look like for you, as a father?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes, both. As we just read through Scripture with our family, these topics come up and present opportunities, as parents, to talk about them. With Genesis 2:24, for example\u2014with our kids, we talk about it as \u201cGod\u2019s definition for marriage: one man\/one woman for life.\u201d With a six-year-old, I might say, \u201cKate, God\u2019s design for you is to marry a boy and not a girl.\u201d We\u2019ve had those kinds of conversations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat has then come out in the responsive way as well. We were at a cabin and one of the other families\u2014their about-six-year-old daughter was playing with my daughter. Kate came back in and said, \u201cWhen I get older, Victoria said that we could marry each other,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you know, just kind of an off-the-cuff comment during lunch, which provided a great opportunity to then <em>reinvest<\/em> in these kinds of truths from Scripture with Kate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose opportunities present themselves every day\u2014with the things our kids watch, the people they spend time with, the things that they\u2019re reading\u2014they\u2019re all over the place, especially, with where our culture has gone\u2014as parents. I like to say it\u2019s the missionary zeal of our sex-saturated culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe example I give with my own boys is this idea of <em>Star Wars<\/em>. My boys did not see the newest versions of <em>Star Wars<\/em> \/ the newest releases until just a couple of years ago; but if you talked to them, you would have thought they knew\u2014had seen those movies ten times; because they knew the stories \/ the characters\u2014they could quote everything\u2014because our culture is saturated with <em>Star Wars<\/em>\u2014it was all over. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd the same is true with sex for our kids\u2014it\u2019s everywhere\u2014so it necessitates some of these early and often conversations; because if we don\u2019t, others will. We know those conversations are happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you just don\u2019t know what\u2019s taking place with your kids today. One mom came to you, who had found out her 12-year-old son was video-chatting with a young lady online. What exactly happened there? I don\u2019t remember exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> An innocent conversation on the phone\u2014a video chat\u2014one classmate to another. The child bared herself to the son, and the son wasn\u2019t prepared for it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Of course, the fall-out was pretty significant. The comment that the mom made was, \u201cWe found that we were one conversation short.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The mom said that?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What did she mean by that? I mean, what exactly would you encourage a mom or a dad to have done by the time their child is 12 years old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> So the critical conversations that parents need to be having with their children: \u201cWhat is marriage? What\u2019s the role of a husband and wife? What is the purpose and meaning of sex? What does it mean to be a boy or a girl?\u201d God lays all of those out very clearly in Scripture and equips families to have those conversations with their children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn a pure, basic \u201cLet\u2019s-boil-this-down\u201d conversation, I think three passages are critical and pretty easy for families to say, \u201cOkay; let\u2019s zero in around these.\u201d Genesis 2:24, which has already been mentioned\u2014that\u2019s God\u2019s definition for marriage. God designed marriage, so God gets to define marriage. It\u2019s critical that our children understand that God is the Creator, and God gets to define that. If, on that point\u2014if they don\u2019t have a settled conviction there, all the other dominos behind that fall in the wrong direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I just want to add here\u2014Jesus affirmed the Genesis 2:24 definition\u2014so anybody who\u2019s wondering, \u201cDid Jesus ever say anything about homosexuality or about gay marriage?\u201d He did!\u2014He affirmed [biblical marriage]. When He was asked about divorce, He said, \u201cHaven\u2019t you read in the beginning what it was said, that \u2018\u2026a man shall leave father and mother and cleave to his wife\u2019?\u201d This is God\u2019s definition, and Jesus affirms it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What are the other two passages here, Josh?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Yes; the other two are Ephesians 5:22-33, which talks about the husband and the wife\u2019s role. With young people, I like to talk about that in a question; so I, with our boys\u2014we have three\u2014we ask them a question that helps them understand their role as a future husband. That question is: \u201cHow can I <em>serve<\/em> you?\u201d which gets at the heart of what God\u2019s role is for husbands\u2014sacrificial servant leadership. We affirm our boys when we start seeing forms of service as leadership\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that, then, translates over into their future marriage role. For our two daughters, the question we ask is: \u201cHow can I help you?\u201d That, then, helps translate into a future wife role. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, in general, some of our children may not get married\u2014God may have a call of singleness on them. That is to be elevated and celebrated just as much as marriage is. Those questions <em>still<\/em> apply for our young men and our young women, as they can ask those questions to those whom they are leading and serving, as well, in whatever sphere God has for them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; Genesis 2, Ephesians 5\u2014what\u2019s the other one?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Proverbs 5\u2014and you could add 6 and 7. Proverbs\u2014I\u2019ve calculated\u2014it is about ten percent or so of the book, roughly, deals with the subject matters of marriage, dating, sexuality. That\u2019s quite a bit of real estate for the only book of the Bible that is written directly to young people \/ to children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tProverbs 5 is a pretty steamy passage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Gritty!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Gritty; yes. But God, in His wisdom, captured a father having \u201cthe talks\u201d\u2014not just \u201cThe Talk\u201d\u2014but \u201cthe talks\u201d with his son. You know, in this setting, the son is a little older; but Proverbs 5 is a <em>wonderful<\/em> model.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you say, \u201cHow do I <em>do <\/em>this with my child?\u201d God actually put that in the Bible for us. I <em>love <\/em>walking through Proverbs 5 with families\u2014to say: \u201cCapture the essence of this. It\u2019s important to look at what God says and doesn\u2019t say, both with the warnings\u2014there are some pretty strong warnings in there; and that\u2019s meant to help our young people make wise and good godly decisions and consider the cost; because there is a price tag, sexually\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but also, then, to capture the blessings and the joys of making godly sexual decisions, having sexual self-control. Our kids, many times, get presented with a lot of the don\u2019ts and the negative side, without the positive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Here, God balances that. It\u2019s a weighty passage with the \u201cdon\u2019ts,\u201d but it is also a really joyful passage with\u2014in Proverbs 5, God uses the phrase, \u201cblessed,\u201d meaning: \u201cYou\u2019re going to be happy <em>if...<\/em>\u201d It gets to the reality that, underneath a lot of the decisions our young people make, is a reminder that they\u2019re on a quest for happiness. They\u2019re making a certain decision, because they believe the outcome is going to be their happiness\u2014only to be given these examples in Scripture to say: \u201cGod\u2019s best for you is not to be choosing outside of the parameters that He\u2019s creating. You\u2019re going to be happiest when you choose to walk in the path that God has laid out and make these decisions that are in obedience to His Word.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Josh, you don\u2019t know this, I don\u2019t think, but Dennis wrote a book for parents, years ago, called <em>Aggressive Girls, Clueless Boys.<\/em> That book is Proverbs 5, 6, and 7\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Oh, it is? That\u2019s great.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014for a father to sit down \/ or for a mother to sit down with a son and say, \u201cSon, there are aggressive women.\u201d In our day, this has just exponentially increased.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, this story that Josh tells in his book\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that a 12-year-old <em>girl<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014exposed herself to another 12-year-old boy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean, how much of this should a parent be preparing their children for, Josh?\u2014because it really isn\u2019t a matter of <em>if <\/em>they\u2019re going to see pornography \/ <em>if <\/em>there\u2019s going to be exposure. It\u2019s going to be a matter of when, and what you do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> Covenant Eyes has a statistic that, at a minimum, 50 percent will have exposure to pornography by the age of 12. For many, it\u2019s much earlier than that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was a Children\u2019s and Family Pastor for many years. I would have plenty of families in my office\u2014in the K through 2<sup>nd<\/sup>-grade range\u2014who said: \u201cMy child has had this experience. What do I do? Help!\u201d But, for sure, Covenant Eyes also says that upwards of 90 percent of boys and 65 percent of girls, by the age of 18. You\u2019re absolutely correct, Dennis. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what\u2019s the best preventative? Obviously, you\u2019re going to teach the Scripture; but they\u2019re going to see it. Coach a parent in what he or she can do to prepare their child to know what to do when it happens.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> We live in the age of the overexposed child. Obviously, one of the main places that that is coming in is through technology into our homes\u2014whether that\u2019s television, whether that\u2019s video games, whether that\u2019s personal devices like phones and iPads<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, or the internet as well. Measures have to be taken in all of those to place some filters and parameters on those.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, with personal devices\u2014which is what I experienced as a pastor\u2014that a lot of the exposure happened with young children. Parents would give, with good intentions, a phone that had internet on it\u2014capabilities\u2014or an iPad<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. In that, they were giving their child the gift of pornography\u2014not intending to do that\u2014but the child often stumbled on it by accident or when doing homework, and then it was a catch-up piece for the parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of my encouragements is to either delay the giving of devices until much later; because our kids\u2014like our kids use ours\u2014it\u2019s not that they\u2019re not on them\u2014but they use them in our presence. This is all the way up through our child, who is 12. We\u2019ve just begun having a conversation\u2014Jen and I\u2014about a phone for our 12-year-old. It will probably be one that has no internet opportunities on it; and then, when that becomes the reality in our home\u2014when our kids are using those components\u2014there have to be filters \/ there have to be limitations.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m continually amazed at how many <em>don\u2019t<\/em> have that [filters and limitations]. Just that basic step is <em>huge<\/em>; and in that, there has to be accountability from parents, talking with their children about what they\u2019re doing on the computers and their devices; so that there\u2019s an awareness that is there\u2014where their kids are and where their kids are not. If those steps are taken, that, at least, puts a good foundation in place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not, as you said, it is not \u201c<em>If\u2026<\/em>\u201d but \u201c<em>When<\/em>\u2026\u201d\u2014so we want our kids to be prepared for it. As we are having preparation with our young people, it\u2019s really the preparation that\u2019s happening in their heart; because it could be any type of technology device, but it could be a whole lot of other things as well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Josh:<\/strong> \u2014in print; it could be what they\u2019re seeing in other spheres. If the battleground of the heart is won, then that playground\u2014whether it\u2019s those areas or others\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014becomes a much easier piece for us to navigate with our young people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s how we\u2019ve navigated that with our kids\u2014the more we can help our children see the beauty and the grandness of who God is and who Christ is, the less they will want to pursue other elements. I think that\u2014it doesn\u2019t, obviously, negate that altogether\u2014but, man, it sure minimizes the temptation and the allure that would be there if that wasn\u2019t the case.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019ve talked a little bit on the broadcast today about Proverbs 5, 6, and 7. I just want to read the beginning of it; because I think it\u2019s very instructive to dads, but also to moms. Listen to how this Scripture begins: \u201cMy son, be attentive to my wisdom.\u201d It\u2019s kind of like [tapping sound]: \u201cListen up! I\u2019m about to give you something important, son! Really! Listen! This is life or death!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t20:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe goes on: \u201cIncline your ear to my understanding,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m older. I\u2019ve been around the block a couple of times. I know you may think I\u2019m getting dumb; but you need to listen carefully, because I have some understanding!\u2014he says, \u201cthat you keep\u00a0discretion, and your lips may\u00a0guard knowledge, for the lips of\u00a0a forbidden\u00a0woman drip honey, and her speech\u00a0is\u00a0smoother than oil, but in the end she is\u00a0as bitter as\u00a0wormwood,\u201d\u2014so, son, listen carefully what I\u2019m telling you; because this is going to be an issue for you, all the way from puberty until the grave. This is an important issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to tell you: \u201cParents, you\u2019ve got to do this! You\u2019ve got to have these talks; not just \u2018The Talk\u2019; you\u2019ve got to have a thousand talks by the time you launch your arrow toward the target.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t21:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob: Well, and you\u2019ve got to be strategic, and intentional, and purposeful\u2014that\u2019s what you\u2019re saying. You\u2019ve got to have a plan, as parents, for how you\u2019re going to engage with your children on the subject, not just of human sexuality, but on all kinds of relational issues that are going to be a part of their life as they head toward marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJosh, you do a great job of talking about all of these issues in your book, Preparing Children for Marriage: How to Teach God\u2019s Good Design for Marriage, Sex, Purity, and Dating. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of parents, as you guys both know, have used the Passport2Purity\u00ae and Passport2Identity\u2122 resources as a way to have a foundational experience with their children that helps spawn all kinds of other conversations on the subject of sexuality, and dating, and relationships. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t22:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have those resources available, here, at FamilyLife. If you have a child, who is pre-adolescent or one who is in his or her early teen years, check out the Passport2Purity and Passport2Identity resources; and then think about a getaway time with your kid, where you can go through this content with them and help get them ready for what\u2019s ahead for them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, we\u2019ve had so many parents, over the years, who have told us, that when it comes to issues like this, they have found help, and encouragement, and guidance from the resources we provide \/ from things they hear every day on FamilyLife Today. Our goal here is to provide practical biblical help and hope for marriages and families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery time you partner with us to extend the reach of this ministry, you\u2019re helping us reach more couples\/more families, not only here in the United States, but around the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t23:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour donations help defray the cost of producing and syndicating this daily radio program. Without your help, the program would not exist; so we\u2019re grateful for those of you who partner with us as monthly Legacy Partners and those of you who will, from time to time, make a donation to help support the ongoing work of this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can make a donation today, we\u2019d love to say, \u201cThank you for your support,\u201d by sending you a copy of Dennis Rainey\u2019s latest book, which is called Choosing a Life that Matters. It\u2019s a great book to go through together as a family, or to give as a gift to somebody who\u2019s a new Christian\u2014maybe a high school graduate or a college graduate\u2014somebody who needs the foundational issues of life laid out for them. Again, the book is our gift to you when you go online and make a donation at FamilyLifeToday.com or when you call to donate: 1-800-FL-TODAY. Or you can mail your donation to FamilyLife Today at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t24:00\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019ll talk more about the relational dynamics that moms and dads need to be helping their children understand and helping foster these in the lives of your kids as you prepare them, not only for adulthood, but for, eventually, getting married. I hope you can be with us again tomorrow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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