{"id":300277,"date":"2018-06-22T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-06-22T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/discovering-gods-capacity\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:41:26","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:41:26","slug":"discovering-gods-capacity","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/discovering-gods-capacity\/","title":{"rendered":"Discovering God&#8217;s Capacity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Jack Alexander | Series: The God Guarantee | You were meant to bloom! Businessman Jack Alexander, a former recipient of an Ernst &#038; Young National Entrepreneur of the Year Award, reminds us that God can and will provide all our needs especially if we put Him first in our lives. 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Jack Alexander says, \u201cThere\u2019s a difference.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> As a business person, for the last few decades, when you really realize that you\u2019re making an investment, it goes in a different bucket than when you\u2019ve lost something or you\u2019ve spent something. I think, sometimes, when people give, they think they are losing something; whereas, in the Kingdom, God will <em>always<\/em> give you a return. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 22<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk with Jack Alexander today about the difference between giving and investing and about how we can cultivate a <em>generous<\/em> heart. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I think I\u2019ve shared this before\u2014but I could take you to the spot, in the hallway at KWGS radio, on the campus of the University of Tulsa\u2014KWGS was the college station, where, as a freshman, I went and knocked on the door and said, \u201cHow does somebody get to be on the radio?\u201d [Laughter] They said, \u201cWell, you can sign up here; and we have auditions that come.\u201d I signed up; I went through the auditions; I got a shift, Tuesday nights, from nine until one in the morning. I was on the air,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Prime time; huh? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014playing whatever records I wanted to play. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Probably more college kids were listening at that point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Probably <em>nobody<\/em> listening other than\u2014[Laughter]\u2014I think Mary Ann listened, from time to time, because we were dating; but I remember\u2014I thought nobody was listening. I\u2019d been on the air for about two months; I was in the station one day. The station manager came up to me; and he said, \u201cWhat\u2019s your name?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cIt\u2019s Bob.\u201d He said, \u201cYou do Tuesday nights; right?\u201d I said, \u201cYes.\u201d He said, \u201cWhere did you work before you worked here?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, no place\u2014this is the first radio station I\u2019ve worked at.\u201d He said: \u201cReally?! Well, you sound good.\u201d I could go back\u2014I want to put a marker in the hallway, right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That was how many years ago? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That was in the fall of 1974. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> He heard something and saw something. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That was right after the flood; wasn\u2019t it? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Radio had just been invented. [Laughter] But I have to tell you\u2014here is somebody who saw something in me that I kind of hoped was there, but I didn\u2019t have any idea if that was really there. Now, you can jump ahead to 2018; and it helped mark my life to where I am today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; and what a sweet ride it\u2019s been\u2014it really has been a privilege. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to talk about people\u2019s capacity and what\u2019s wrapped up in their lives and how they were made to bloom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey weren\u2019t made to remain a bud, but the beauty and the fragrance from their lives needs to be released. We\u2019ve got a gardener with us on the broadcast, who knows how to release the capacity of human beings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBefore I introduce Jack Alexander to our radio audience\u2014I don\u2019t know if I\u2019ve ever done this, Bob. I need to apologize to Jack; because on an earlier broadcast, I introduced him as Crawford Loritts\u2019 friend; and that was the <em>only<\/em>\u2014the only way I introduced him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014the only credentials you gave him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was like he didn\u2019t have any other credentials. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s all he needs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jack, I know that you have a <em>lot<\/em> of credentials besides being Crawford Loritts\u2019 friend, who is a key pastor\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great credential. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; it is\u2014in Atlanta, Georgia\u2014but welcome back to the broadcast. Thanks for coming on back,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Thanks, Dennis. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014even though I offended you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Thanks, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jack is the Chairman of the Reimagine Group. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn 30 seconds, Jack, what does Reimagine Group do? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> We work with churches\u2014we\u2019ve worked with over 1,500 churches in the whole area of stewardship and generosity\u2014but it\u2019s basically trying to move the church to a more holistic sense. We think what we call, \u201cthe money narrative,\u201d has sort of ruled churches. We\u2019re trying to use story-based video to stimulate people to give their lives away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you talk about generosity, you\u2019re not just talking about financial generosity; you\u2019re talking about whole-life generosity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, the money-narrative people say, \u201cWell, if God\u2019s got your money, He\u2019s got your heart.\u201d We\u2019re saying, \u201cIf He\u2019s got your heart, He\u2019s got your money.\u201d I think there\u2019s some merit to both; but it\u2019s providing some balance, I think, to the approach. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How many companies have you owned in your lifetime?\u2014just to give our listeners an idea that you haven\u2019t always been in church work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> No; I\u2019m still involved in business\u2014two main companies. One grew to be the second largest corporate travel company in the country, and one became a pretty large technology company\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014so those are the two main ones. Right now, I\u2019m chairman of a company called onQ which provides interactive learning and communication software to companies and ministries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, Jack is also the recipient of the Ernst &amp; Young National Entrepreneur of the Year Award. He and his wife Lisa, who he has been married to since 1979, live in Atlanta. They have three sons and five grandchildren. He has written a book called <em>The God Guarantee<\/em>\u2014subtitled: <em>Finding Freedom from the Fear of Not Having Enough<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd just real quickly, the book is all about scarcity and how people think, \u201cscarce,\u201d when they need to be thinking, \u201cfaith, and belief, and trust in God,\u201d and seeing God use them and increase their capacity to make an impact in others. Explain the word, \u201cscarcity,\u201d before we start talking about capacity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, again, the book asks the question: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWould you live, love, and give differently if you knew that God would provide for all your needs?\u201d I mentioned on the last broadcast that Chip Ingram estimates that 85 percent of Christians have the scarcity mentality rooted in fear that there is not enough. Also, there\u2019s another lie that people believe in\u2014the prosperity theology. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis book is\u2014basically, God promises us an abundant life\u2014but 11 different times in the Gospels He tells stories about how He provides for us; so, then, there are four steps to each of those\u2014it is: take, bless, break, and give. We\u2019ve come up with four concepts of capacity, consecration, challenges, and community\u2014so try to really do diagnostics on this pattern and believe that it really represents how to live a sacramental life\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014\u2014it\u2019s how to give your life away. As you become the person that God is calling you to become\u2014that He provides for you along the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what prompted me to think of my radio story, back in college, because somebody came along and saw capacity in me that I hoped might be there; but they <em>affirmed<\/em> that. In that affirmation, they unlocked something. We can do that for one another; can\u2019t we? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> We definitely can. I\u2019m thinking of Pierce, a 16-year-old that I mentor right now. His father died of mad cow disease eight years ago. I\u2019ll get with Pierce, and I\u2019ll tell him\u2014his dad was an inventor\u2014and I\u2019ll talk with Pierce about things that he\u2019s thinking about and things he could invent. I try to see things in Pierce for him that he might not see for himself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I\u2019ve done that in businesses; I\u2019ve done that with boys without dads; I\u2019ve tried to do it in my own family. It\u2019s one of the biggest gifts you can give someone\u2014is telling them what you see and speaking blessing into their life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve watched you [Dennis] do this with teenagers you\u2019ve known over the years, where you\u2019ll take somebody and speak words of belief and affirmation into a young man\u2019s life, where he doesn\u2019t know what he\u2019s thinking; but you say, \u201cYou know, I think God\u2019s going to do great things with your life.\u201d That may be a by-faith statement when you make it with some of these young men. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you are hoping\/praying that that will spark something inside of them and unlock capacity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd talking about capacity and unlocking somebody\u2019s capacity\u2014that\u2019s a great gift you give somebody\u2014but I really like where you go in the book, because you say that capacity has to be consecrated\u2014it has to be brought <em>under<\/em> God\u2019s guidance and leadership. It has to be offered up to Him before it becomes something that\u2019s not destructive. Unconsecrated capacity in somebody\u2019s life can actually destroy them; can\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen Jesus, again, took the bread and the fish, the first thing He did is\u2014He looked to heaven. I think the tendency of people is\u2014we look at circumstances. Jesus knew\u2014He saw the 15,000 people; there were 5,000 men\u2014but He saw that there was something more in those elements, so He looked to heaven. I tell people: \u201cAlways look to heaven first.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, He blessed it; He consecrated it. In the Old Testament\u2014it is sort of an Old Testament word\u2014like Joshua 3:5\u2014it says: \u201cConsecrate yourself today for tomorrow the Lord will do amazing things.\u201d When you read the Old Testament, they consecrated common articles. When you think of the Sabbath, where God made it holy \/ He set it apart, He said, \u201cConsecrate the Sabbath.\u201d Our tithe\u2014our tithe is supposed to be set apart\u2014it\u2019s supposed to be holy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s something, I think, we are missing in our Christian culture today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014is inviting God\u2019s presence, power, and holiness\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> \u2014into addictions, into problems, into issues, into our days, into our finances. Like when somebody asks me, \u201cShould I tithe?\u201d I\u2019ll say, \u201cWhen you\u2019re inviting God\u2019s holiness into your finances \/ when you\u2019re recognizing the Sabbath\u2014when you\u2019re inviting His holiness into your time\u2014things change.\u201d I think that\u2019s the transformative power in these miracles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, last broadcast, we talked about a couple, who were [challenged], and we talked about surrounding them with people that love them and speaking blessing into them. Well, the next thing they should do is pray. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> They should ask God to do a new work and do a new thing and consecrate that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife and I\u2014when we got married, on our wedding night, we got our knees, and we consecrated any children we might have to the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re really talking about a reprioritization of everything in life. Consecration says: \u201cI\u2019m not living for my passions anymore. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI\u2019m living for God\u2019s agenda now.\u201d When I think about giving\u2014now, people stop thinking, \u201cWell, I can\u2019t afford to give now,\u201d\u2014they kind of start thinking, \u201cI can\u2019t wait to give, because everything has been surrendered.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> See, there\u2019s almost a rhythm of creation. If I look at Genesis 12, God says five different times in the Abrahamic covenant: \u201cI will bless you.\u201d Then, two times, He says, \u201cAnd you will be a blessing,\u201d and \u201cYou will be blessing to the nations.\u201d So, the rhythm of this covenant of creation is that God gives to us; and then, we give to others. When we receive from God\u2014but we hold on \/ we don\u2019t let go\u2014we\u2019re like interrupting that rhythm of creation. It\u2019s the sowing and reaping thing\u2014when we sow sparingly, we reap sparingly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s interesting. Right after Genesis 12, you find the first use of the word, \u201cworship.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you remember what it\u2019s used as? It was the act where Abraham offered his son, Isaac\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014as an offering. The ultimate sacrifice\u2014as far as Abraham was concerned\u2014that was the seed of the future. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> In the New Testament, Paul says that God first preached the gospel to Abraham when He said, \u201cYou\u2019ll be a blessing to the nations.\u201d So, the gospel is really all about <em>blessing<\/em>, and God blesses us in that we were created to bless others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I just want to remind our listeners\u2014I think a passage of Scripture we\u2019re not talking about among ourselves nearly enough today\u2014the Apostle Paul said it in Romans, Chapter 12, verses 1-2. It\u2019s all about what we\u2019re talking about here\u2014consecration. Listen to what He says: \u201cI appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cDo not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind\u201d\u2014then, he says\u2014here\u2019s the purpose\u2014\u201cthat by testing you may discern what is the will of God, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMany times, we want the will of God\u2014the good, the acceptable, and the perfect\u2014without the sacrifice first that must come as the result of consecrating our lives to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, our friend Crawford uses the saying that: \u201cEvery sacrifice is an investment.\u201d I think, as a businessperson for the last few decades, when you really realize you\u2019re making an investment, it goes in a different bucket than when you\u2019ve lost something or you\u2019ve spent something. I think, sometimes, when people give, they think they are losing something; whereas in the Kingdom, God will <em>always<\/em> give you a return. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That really does go to, kind of, the next phase you talk about in your book: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cCapacity is identified and unlocked; then, it is consecrated\u2014it\u2019s set apart for God\u2019s use. Then, the next thing that happens is we start to experience challenges.\u201d Those challenges have a refining\/redemptive work in our lives; don\u2019t they? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> I call it\u2014that\u2019s where God reorders your life because, again, in consecration, you are saying\u2014with the addiction or with the issue, with a challenge, with finances\u2014whatever it is\u2014you\u2019re saying: \u201cGod, come in. I want to set this apart for You; I want Your presence; I want Your power; I want Your glory.\u201d Then, He starts rearranging the furniture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think it\u2019s easy to say, \u201cI don\u2019t like this,\u201d\u2014I call that \u201cthe wilderness\u201d in the third section of the book. I\u2019ve been a Christian for 40 years. I feel like the church\u2014it\u2019s almost apologetic of the wilderness\u2014it\u2019s like: \u201cWell, God\u2019s got you in the wilderness right now. It\u2019ll teach you something\u201d; but in this section, I talk about, if we don\u2019t, what I call, \u201cmake friends with the wilderness,\u201d then, we\u2019re not going to go into the wilderness for <em>others<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> \u2014we\u2019re not going to bear their burdens; we\u2019re not going to experience the transformation in our life or, sometimes, in other people lives. This wilderness is where we get, one on one, with God; and He redirects us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn my life, where we\u2019ve had death; we\u2019ve had paralysis; we\u2019ve had just many tragedies and disease. During that time, where I would cry out to God, I\u2019d just say: \u201cGod this isn\u2019t right. It doesn\u2019t seem fair.\u201d I mentioned to Dennis\u2014you, earlier\u2014about Lisa\u2019s sister, who got polio from her baby and then her husband abandoned her. She has become a Christian. On the National Day of Prayer, she has people into her apartment. She\u2019s been in the wheelchair for 38 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe had, like, no money when she got polio and her husband left her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember us saying to Lori\u2014we prayed for her\u2014we said: \u201cLori, we\u2019ll always be behind you. You\u2019ll never need to worry.\u201d I look back at that prayer of faith, and it\u2019s just like God has provided\u2014she needed $75,000 a year to live, and that was 38 years ago\u2014and God has provided for her in just an amazing way. I think leaning into these awful, hard times\u2014it just takes so much faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd just for any radio listener, who is out there, I just want to hug you right now and just say: \u201cGod is God, and He\u2019s got purposes. He can care for you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; you say in your book that, in the wilderness, our reaction is: \u201cGod must not love me. I wouldn\u2019t be here if God loved me\u201d; but the wilderness is a place where God takes us. Sometimes, in the wilderness, we experience and know God\u2019s love in a deeper way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou were in the wilderness\u2014you and Barbara\u2014when your daughter gave birth to Molly, your granddaughter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes\u2014valley of the shadow of death. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And Barbara said you saw God more clearly \/ sensed Him more deeply in the wilderness, than we sometimes do in the day to day. <br><br>I got an email this morning from a friend of mine\u2014he said, \u201cWe just got back from the doctor, and it\u2019s the first time hospice has been mentioned in the conversation.\u201d He said, \u201cNobody ever wants to hear that, but it looks like that\u2019s where we are.\u201d I wrote him back, and I said: \u201cYou know, you\u2019ve been on a hard path. Now, the path\u2014the incline has just gotten steeper, and the temperature has gotten colder, and it\u2019s cloudy.\u201d I said, \u201cBut God is there in the midst of that, and He\u2019s going to pour grace into you as you walk that path.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Usually\u2014not every time\u2014but usually, when someone walks through the valley of the shadow of death, the key that makes it bearable\u2014obviously, is his relationship with Christ and crying out to God\u2014but also, it\u2019s people with skin on, who wrap their arms, like you [Jack] did, verbally, a few moments ago\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you said, \u201cIf there is someone listening, who\u2019s hurting, I want you to know\u2014I want to hug you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019d love to be able to hug you.\u201d This issue of community is absolutely <em>vital<\/em> if a person is going to go through and fully reach their capacity before God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. We look at the concept of orbiting in the community\u2014and just that everything that God created\u2014if you look at the heavens, there are central objects that orbit. If you look at atoms and molecules, there is a nucleus; there is orbiting there. When man fell, we became the only non-orbiting part of the universe. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBasically, as followers of Christ, Jesus said, \u201cI came to you as one who serves.\u201d Jesus came to orbit around us. He says, \u201cIs a servant greater than his master?\u201d What God has shown me in my life, especially in the last 15 years, is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014He puts people in my life for me to orbit around. In doing so, it humbles me. New relationships are created; God opens up new things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you really look at this four-part pattern, capacity shows us what God can do. Consecration dedicates something to Him. Challenges, basically, bring us to our knees\u2014like in Deuteronomy, it says \/ God said to the Israelites\u2014He brought them into the wilderness to test them and to show them what\u2019s in their hearts. Oftentimes, we <em>need<\/em> to be tested; we need to be shown what\u2019s in our heart. All of that\u2019s vertical\u2014those first three steps are vertical\u2014then, He says, \u201cNow, go horizontal.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the problem with community\u2014what I see in churches\u2014is churches will say, \u201cCommunity is the most important thing we do.\u201d People get into small groups, and they don\u2019t click\u2014they say, \u201cThis isn\u2019t working\u201d; but see, in this pattern of provision, God first shows us what He can do with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we consecrate it to Him. Then, He breaks us down; and by the time we\u2019re broken down and we get into community, we\u2019re ready to orbit. We\u2019re ready to consider other people as more important than ourselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think churches make a big mistake of <em>pushing<\/em> people into community and saying, \u201cThis is the answer.\u201d I think thousands of people are disappointed, because they haven\u2019t followed God\u2019s pattern of provision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They may not have found the four or five people or couples that they need to do life with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014who can speak into their lives and not be afraid to say something that will take the brokenness and put some salve on the wound and, maybe, a hug around the neck and just encouragement not to quit\u2014because, when you are in the midst of one of these seasons, where everything is tough\u2014and you\u2019ve had several of them; Bob, you\u2019ve had a number; I have too \/ Barbara and I have gone through\u2014it seems like almost every phone call is bringing a new challenge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, those are moments when you\u2019ve got to lean into the friends, who know you best, and let them speak into your lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Jack, I want to thank you for your humility to let us into your life and talk about, kind of, your low points and the challenges you\u2019ve faced and some of the missing pieces that you felt, as a young man, growing up, but how God has used that. I\u2019m just kind of smiling here, thinking, \u201cGod, You delight in taking these matters that we might\u2014we might think of just as wounds\u2014and You turn them into holy scars.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> He does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He does. I want to commend your book to our listeners: <em>The God Guarantee<\/em>. Get it and go through it with a group of people. I think you\u2019ll get the most out of it if you do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You can order the book from us, here, at FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. Go online to FamilyLifeToday.com to order, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the title of the book is <em>The God Guarantee: Finding Freedom from the Fear of Not Having Enough<\/em> by Jack Alexander. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOrder, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to place your order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, what we\u2019ve been talking about today\u2014our kids having confidence in God\u2019s provision and being generous\u2014these are the kinds of character qualities that we want to see develop in all of our children. It\u2019s one of the things we talk about in our video series, the<em> Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup>. We\u2019ve had <em>thousands<\/em> of parents who have started going through the free online <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> resource, and we\u2019ve got <em>thousands<\/em> more who are lined up to do <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> small groups this summer or into the fall. You can find out more about the<em> Art of Parenting<\/em> when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve also created a four-week devotional series for parents called the <em>Growing Together <\/em>devotional series. Each week, moms and dads can work together with kids, talking about and doing activities around different themes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014things like communication, service, gratitude, kindness\u2014the kinds of things we want to be true about our family and about us, as followers of Jesus. The <em>Growing Together <\/em>devotional series is a free download. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com to download this resource and begin using it right away with your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese are the kinds of resources that we develop at FamilyLife because our mission is to effectively develop godly marriages and families. We believe godly marriages and families can change the world. We want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who are monthly Legacy Partners or those of you who will, from time to time, make a donation to help support this ministry. During the summer months, our donation levels often dip as people are in different life patterns. So, if you\u2019re able to help with a donation today, we\u2019d love to hear from you. You can make a donation easily, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to donate at 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd with that, we\u2019ve got to wrap things up for this week. Thanks for being with us. I hope you have a great weekend. 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Jack Alexander says, \u201cThere\u2019s a difference.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> As a business person, for the last few decades, when you really realize that you\u2019re making an investment, it goes in a different bucket than when you\u2019ve lost something or you\u2019ve spent something. I think, sometimes, when people give, they think they are losing something; whereas, in the Kingdom, God will <em>always<\/em> give you a return. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 22<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk with Jack Alexander today about the difference between giving and investing and about how we can cultivate a <em>generous<\/em> heart. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I think I\u2019ve shared this before\u2014but I could take you to the spot, in the hallway at KWGS radio, on the campus of the University of Tulsa\u2014KWGS was the college station, where, as a freshman, I went and knocked on the door and said, \u201cHow does somebody get to be on the radio?\u201d [Laughter] They said, \u201cWell, you can sign up here; and we have auditions that come.\u201d I signed up; I went through the auditions; I got a shift, Tuesday nights, from nine until one in the morning. I was on the air,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Prime time; huh? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014playing whatever records I wanted to play. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Probably more college kids were listening at that point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Probably <em>nobody<\/em> listening other than\u2014[Laughter]\u2014I think Mary Ann listened, from time to time, because we were dating; but I remember\u2014I thought nobody was listening. I\u2019d been on the air for about two months; I was in the station one day. 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[Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Radio had just been invented. [Laughter] But I have to tell you\u2014here is somebody who saw something in me that I kind of hoped was there, but I didn\u2019t have any idea if that was really there. Now, you can jump ahead to 2018; and it helped mark my life to where I am today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; and what a sweet ride it\u2019s been\u2014it really has been a privilege. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to talk about people\u2019s capacity and what\u2019s wrapped up in their lives and how they were made to bloom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey weren\u2019t made to remain a bud, but the beauty and the fragrance from their lives needs to be released. 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I need to apologize to Jack; because on an earlier broadcast, I introduced him as Crawford Loritts\u2019 friend; and that was the <em>only<\/em>\u2014the only way I introduced him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014the only credentials you gave him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was like he didn\u2019t have any other credentials. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s all he needs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jack, I know that you have a <em>lot<\/em> of credentials besides being Crawford Loritts\u2019 friend, who is a key pastor\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great credential. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; it is\u2014in Atlanta, Georgia\u2014but welcome back to the broadcast. Thanks for coming on back,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Thanks, Dennis. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014even though I offended you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Thanks, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jack is the Chairman of the Reimagine Group. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn 30 seconds, Jack, what does Reimagine Group do? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> We work with churches\u2014we\u2019ve worked with over 1,500 churches in the whole area of stewardship and generosity\u2014but it\u2019s basically trying to move the church to a more holistic sense. We think what we call, \u201cthe money narrative,\u201d has sort of ruled churches. We\u2019re trying to use story-based video to stimulate people to give their lives away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you talk about generosity, you\u2019re not just talking about financial generosity; you\u2019re talking about whole-life generosity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, the money-narrative people say, \u201cWell, if God\u2019s got your money, He\u2019s got your heart.\u201d We\u2019re saying, \u201cIf He\u2019s got your heart, He\u2019s got your money.\u201d I think there\u2019s some merit to both; but it\u2019s providing some balance, I think, to the approach. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How many companies have you owned in your lifetime?\u2014just to give our listeners an idea that you haven\u2019t always been in church work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> No; I\u2019m still involved in business\u2014two main companies. One grew to be the second largest corporate travel company in the country, and one became a pretty large technology company\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014so those are the two main ones. Right now, I\u2019m chairman of a company called onQ which provides interactive learning and communication software to companies and ministries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, Jack is also the recipient of the Ernst &amp; Young National Entrepreneur of the Year Award. He and his wife Lisa, who he has been married to since 1979, live in Atlanta. They have three sons and five grandchildren. He has written a book called <em>The God Guarantee<\/em>\u2014subtitled: <em>Finding Freedom from the Fear of Not Having Enough<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd just real quickly, the book is all about scarcity and how people think, \u201cscarce,\u201d when they need to be thinking, \u201cfaith, and belief, and trust in God,\u201d and seeing God use them and increase their capacity to make an impact in others. Explain the word, \u201cscarcity,\u201d before we start talking about capacity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, again, the book asks the question: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWould you live, love, and give differently if you knew that God would provide for all your needs?\u201d I mentioned on the last broadcast that Chip Ingram estimates that 85 percent of Christians have the scarcity mentality rooted in fear that there is not enough. Also, there\u2019s another lie that people believe in\u2014the prosperity theology. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis book is\u2014basically, God promises us an abundant life\u2014but 11 different times in the Gospels He tells stories about how He provides for us; so, then, there are four steps to each of those\u2014it is: take, bless, break, and give. We\u2019ve come up with four concepts of capacity, consecration, challenges, and community\u2014so try to really do diagnostics on this pattern and believe that it really represents how to live a sacramental life\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014\u2014it\u2019s how to give your life away. As you become the person that God is calling you to become\u2014that He provides for you along the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what prompted me to think of my radio story, back in college, because somebody came along and saw capacity in me that I hoped might be there; but they <em>affirmed<\/em> that. In that affirmation, they unlocked something. We can do that for one another; can\u2019t we? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> We definitely can. I\u2019m thinking of Pierce, a 16-year-old that I mentor right now. His father died of mad cow disease eight years ago. I\u2019ll get with Pierce, and I\u2019ll tell him\u2014his dad was an inventor\u2014and I\u2019ll talk with Pierce about things that he\u2019s thinking about and things he could invent. I try to see things in Pierce for him that he might not see for himself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I\u2019ve done that in businesses; I\u2019ve done that with boys without dads; I\u2019ve tried to do it in my own family. It\u2019s one of the biggest gifts you can give someone\u2014is telling them what you see and speaking blessing into their life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve watched you [Dennis] do this with teenagers you\u2019ve known over the years, where you\u2019ll take somebody and speak words of belief and affirmation into a young man\u2019s life, where he doesn\u2019t know what he\u2019s thinking; but you say, \u201cYou know, I think God\u2019s going to do great things with your life.\u201d That may be a by-faith statement when you make it with some of these young men. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you are hoping\/praying that that will spark something inside of them and unlock capacity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd talking about capacity and unlocking somebody\u2019s capacity\u2014that\u2019s a great gift you give somebody\u2014but I really like where you go in the book, because you say that capacity has to be consecrated\u2014it has to be brought <em>under<\/em> God\u2019s guidance and leadership. It has to be offered up to Him before it becomes something that\u2019s not destructive. Unconsecrated capacity in somebody\u2019s life can actually destroy them; can\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen Jesus, again, took the bread and the fish, the first thing He did is\u2014He looked to heaven. I think the tendency of people is\u2014we look at circumstances. Jesus knew\u2014He saw the 15,000 people; there were 5,000 men\u2014but He saw that there was something more in those elements, so He looked to heaven. I tell people: \u201cAlways look to heaven first.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, He blessed it; He consecrated it. In the Old Testament\u2014it is sort of an Old Testament word\u2014like Joshua 3:5\u2014it says: \u201cConsecrate yourself today for tomorrow the Lord will do amazing things.\u201d When you read the Old Testament, they consecrated common articles. When you think of the Sabbath, where God made it holy \/ He set it apart, He said, \u201cConsecrate the Sabbath.\u201d Our tithe\u2014our tithe is supposed to be set apart\u2014it\u2019s supposed to be holy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s something, I think, we are missing in our Christian culture today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014is inviting God\u2019s presence, power, and holiness\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> \u2014into addictions, into problems, into issues, into our days, into our finances. Like when somebody asks me, \u201cShould I tithe?\u201d I\u2019ll say, \u201cWhen you\u2019re inviting God\u2019s holiness into your finances \/ when you\u2019re recognizing the Sabbath\u2014when you\u2019re inviting His holiness into your time\u2014things change.\u201d I think that\u2019s the transformative power in these miracles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, last broadcast, we talked about a couple, who were [challenged], and we talked about surrounding them with people that love them and speaking blessing into them. Well, the next thing they should do is pray. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> They should ask God to do a new work and do a new thing and consecrate that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife and I\u2014when we got married, on our wedding night, we got our knees, and we consecrated any children we might have to the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re really talking about a reprioritization of everything in life. Consecration says: \u201cI\u2019m not living for my passions anymore. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI\u2019m living for God\u2019s agenda now.\u201d When I think about giving\u2014now, people stop thinking, \u201cWell, I can\u2019t afford to give now,\u201d\u2014they kind of start thinking, \u201cI can\u2019t wait to give, because everything has been surrendered.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> See, there\u2019s almost a rhythm of creation. If I look at Genesis 12, God says five different times in the Abrahamic covenant: \u201cI will bless you.\u201d Then, two times, He says, \u201cAnd you will be a blessing,\u201d and \u201cYou will be blessing to the nations.\u201d So, the rhythm of this covenant of creation is that God gives to us; and then, we give to others. When we receive from God\u2014but we hold on \/ we don\u2019t let go\u2014we\u2019re like interrupting that rhythm of creation. It\u2019s the sowing and reaping thing\u2014when we sow sparingly, we reap sparingly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s interesting. Right after Genesis 12, you find the first use of the word, \u201cworship.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you remember what it\u2019s used as? It was the act where Abraham offered his son, Isaac\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014as an offering. The ultimate sacrifice\u2014as far as Abraham was concerned\u2014that was the seed of the future. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> In the New Testament, Paul says that God first preached the gospel to Abraham when He said, \u201cYou\u2019ll be a blessing to the nations.\u201d So, the gospel is really all about <em>blessing<\/em>, and God blesses us in that we were created to bless others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I just want to remind our listeners\u2014I think a passage of Scripture we\u2019re not talking about among ourselves nearly enough today\u2014the Apostle Paul said it in Romans, Chapter 12, verses 1-2. It\u2019s all about what we\u2019re talking about here\u2014consecration. Listen to what He says: \u201cI appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cDo not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind\u201d\u2014then, he says\u2014here\u2019s the purpose\u2014\u201cthat by testing you may discern what is the will of God, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMany times, we want the will of God\u2014the good, the acceptable, and the perfect\u2014without the sacrifice first that must come as the result of consecrating our lives to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, our friend Crawford uses the saying that: \u201cEvery sacrifice is an investment.\u201d I think, as a businessperson for the last few decades, when you really realize you\u2019re making an investment, it goes in a different bucket than when you\u2019ve lost something or you\u2019ve spent something. I think, sometimes, when people give, they think they are losing something; whereas in the Kingdom, God will <em>always<\/em> give you a return. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That really does go to, kind of, the next phase you talk about in your book: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cCapacity is identified and unlocked; then, it is consecrated\u2014it\u2019s set apart for God\u2019s use. Then, the next thing that happens is we start to experience challenges.\u201d Those challenges have a refining\/redemptive work in our lives; don\u2019t they? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> I call it\u2014that\u2019s where God reorders your life because, again, in consecration, you are saying\u2014with the addiction or with the issue, with a challenge, with finances\u2014whatever it is\u2014you\u2019re saying: \u201cGod, come in. I want to set this apart for You; I want Your presence; I want Your power; I want Your glory.\u201d Then, He starts rearranging the furniture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think it\u2019s easy to say, \u201cI don\u2019t like this,\u201d\u2014I call that \u201cthe wilderness\u201d in the third section of the book. I\u2019ve been a Christian for 40 years. I feel like the church\u2014it\u2019s almost apologetic of the wilderness\u2014it\u2019s like: \u201cWell, God\u2019s got you in the wilderness right now. It\u2019ll teach you something\u201d; but in this section, I talk about, if we don\u2019t, what I call, \u201cmake friends with the wilderness,\u201d then, we\u2019re not going to go into the wilderness for <em>others<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> \u2014we\u2019re not going to bear their burdens; we\u2019re not going to experience the transformation in our life or, sometimes, in other people lives. This wilderness is where we get, one on one, with God; and He redirects us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn my life, where we\u2019ve had death; we\u2019ve had paralysis; we\u2019ve had just many tragedies and disease. During that time, where I would cry out to God, I\u2019d just say: \u201cGod this isn\u2019t right. It doesn\u2019t seem fair.\u201d I mentioned to Dennis\u2014you, earlier\u2014about Lisa\u2019s sister, who got polio from her baby and then her husband abandoned her. She has become a Christian. On the National Day of Prayer, she has people into her apartment. She\u2019s been in the wheelchair for 38 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe had, like, no money when she got polio and her husband left her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember us saying to Lori\u2014we prayed for her\u2014we said: \u201cLori, we\u2019ll always be behind you. You\u2019ll never need to worry.\u201d I look back at that prayer of faith, and it\u2019s just like God has provided\u2014she needed $75,000 a year to live, and that was 38 years ago\u2014and God has provided for her in just an amazing way. I think leaning into these awful, hard times\u2014it just takes so much faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd just for any radio listener, who is out there, I just want to hug you right now and just say: \u201cGod is God, and He\u2019s got purposes. He can care for you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; you say in your book that, in the wilderness, our reaction is: \u201cGod must not love me. I wouldn\u2019t be here if God loved me\u201d; but the wilderness is a place where God takes us. Sometimes, in the wilderness, we experience and know God\u2019s love in a deeper way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou were in the wilderness\u2014you and Barbara\u2014when your daughter gave birth to Molly, your granddaughter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes\u2014valley of the shadow of death. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And Barbara said you saw God more clearly \/ sensed Him more deeply in the wilderness, than we sometimes do in the day to day. <br><br>I got an email this morning from a friend of mine\u2014he said, \u201cWe just got back from the doctor, and it\u2019s the first time hospice has been mentioned in the conversation.\u201d He said, \u201cNobody ever wants to hear that, but it looks like that\u2019s where we are.\u201d I wrote him back, and I said: \u201cYou know, you\u2019ve been on a hard path. Now, the path\u2014the incline has just gotten steeper, and the temperature has gotten colder, and it\u2019s cloudy.\u201d I said, \u201cBut God is there in the midst of that, and He\u2019s going to pour grace into you as you walk that path.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Usually\u2014not every time\u2014but usually, when someone walks through the valley of the shadow of death, the key that makes it bearable\u2014obviously, is his relationship with Christ and crying out to God\u2014but also, it\u2019s people with skin on, who wrap their arms, like you [Jack] did, verbally, a few moments ago\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you said, \u201cIf there is someone listening, who\u2019s hurting, I want you to know\u2014I want to hug you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019d love to be able to hug you.\u201d This issue of community is absolutely <em>vital<\/em> if a person is going to go through and fully reach their capacity before God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. We look at the concept of orbiting in the community\u2014and just that everything that God created\u2014if you look at the heavens, there are central objects that orbit. If you look at atoms and molecules, there is a nucleus; there is orbiting there. When man fell, we became the only non-orbiting part of the universe. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBasically, as followers of Christ, Jesus said, \u201cI came to you as one who serves.\u201d Jesus came to orbit around us. He says, \u201cIs a servant greater than his master?\u201d What God has shown me in my life, especially in the last 15 years, is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014He puts people in my life for me to orbit around. In doing so, it humbles me. New relationships are created; God opens up new things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you really look at this four-part pattern, capacity shows us what God can do. Consecration dedicates something to Him. Challenges, basically, bring us to our knees\u2014like in Deuteronomy, it says \/ God said to the Israelites\u2014He brought them into the wilderness to test them and to show them what\u2019s in their hearts. Oftentimes, we <em>need<\/em> to be tested; we need to be shown what\u2019s in our heart. All of that\u2019s vertical\u2014those first three steps are vertical\u2014then, He says, \u201cNow, go horizontal.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the problem with community\u2014what I see in churches\u2014is churches will say, \u201cCommunity is the most important thing we do.\u201d People get into small groups, and they don\u2019t click\u2014they say, \u201cThis isn\u2019t working\u201d; but see, in this pattern of provision, God first shows us what He can do with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we consecrate it to Him. Then, He breaks us down; and by the time we\u2019re broken down and we get into community, we\u2019re ready to orbit. We\u2019re ready to consider other people as more important than ourselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think churches make a big mistake of <em>pushing<\/em> people into community and saying, \u201cThis is the answer.\u201d I think thousands of people are disappointed, because they haven\u2019t followed God\u2019s pattern of provision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They may not have found the four or five people or couples that they need to do life with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014who can speak into their lives and not be afraid to say something that will take the brokenness and put some salve on the wound and, maybe, a hug around the neck and just encouragement not to quit\u2014because, when you are in the midst of one of these seasons, where everything is tough\u2014and you\u2019ve had several of them; Bob, you\u2019ve had a number; I have too \/ Barbara and I have gone through\u2014it seems like almost every phone call is bringing a new challenge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, those are moments when you\u2019ve got to lean into the friends, who know you best, and let them speak into your lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Jack, I want to thank you for your humility to let us into your life and talk about, kind of, your low points and the challenges you\u2019ve faced and some of the missing pieces that you felt, as a young man, growing up, but how God has used that. I\u2019m just kind of smiling here, thinking, \u201cGod, You delight in taking these matters that we might\u2014we might think of just as wounds\u2014and You turn them into holy scars.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> He does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He does. I want to commend your book to our listeners: <em>The God Guarantee<\/em>. Get it and go through it with a group of people. I think you\u2019ll get the most out of it if you do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You can order the book from us, here, at FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. Go online to FamilyLifeToday.com to order, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the title of the book is <em>The God Guarantee: Finding Freedom from the Fear of Not Having Enough<\/em> by Jack Alexander. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOrder, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to place your order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, what we\u2019ve been talking about today\u2014our kids having confidence in God\u2019s provision and being generous\u2014these are the kinds of character qualities that we want to see develop in all of our children. It\u2019s one of the things we talk about in our video series, the<em> Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup>. We\u2019ve had <em>thousands<\/em> of parents who have started going through the free online <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> resource, and we\u2019ve got <em>thousands<\/em> more who are lined up to do <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> small groups this summer or into the fall. You can find out more about the<em> Art of Parenting<\/em> when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve also created a four-week devotional series for parents called the <em>Growing Together <\/em>devotional series. Each week, moms and dads can work together with kids, talking about and doing activities around different themes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014things like communication, service, gratitude, kindness\u2014the kinds of things we want to be true about our family and about us, as followers of Jesus. The <em>Growing Together <\/em>devotional series is a free download. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com to download this resource and begin using it right away with your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese are the kinds of resources that we develop at FamilyLife because our mission is to effectively develop godly marriages and families. We believe godly marriages and families can change the world. We want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who are monthly Legacy Partners or those of you who will, from time to time, make a donation to help support this ministry. During the summer months, our donation levels often dip as people are in different life patterns. So, if you\u2019re able to help with a donation today, we\u2019d love to hear from you. You can make a donation easily, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to donate at 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd with that, we\u2019ve got to wrap things up for this week. Thanks for being with us. I hope you have a great weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and I hope you can be back with us on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about God\u2019s grace, and the gospel, and how that all works together with mental disorders or mental illnesses. Matthew Stanford is going to join us, and I hope you can join us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Have a great weekend. We\u2019ll see you Monday for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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