{"id":300275,"date":"2018-06-21T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-06-21T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/dispelling-scarcity-thinking\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:41:26","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:41:26","slug":"dispelling-scarcity-thinking","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/dispelling-scarcity-thinking\/","title":{"rendered":"Dispelling Scarcity Thinking"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jack Alexander believes that each person always has something to give, if not financially, then through their time and talents. 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Jack Alexander says, if we understand who God is correctly, the right answer to that is: \u201cNo; we\u2019re not limited.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> There\u2019s a war around this whole area of capacity. With Satan, when he came to tempt Jesus, the first temptation was: \u201cIf You are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.\u201d And Jesus said, \u201cIt is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord.\u201d The first temptation was to provide for yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, June 21<sup>st<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. Jack Alexander says many of us have a scarcity mindset. He wants to talk to us about how we can have an abundance mindset. We\u2019ll hear about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. So, you know, I\u2019ve never stopped to think but I think it\u2019s probably true that, if Christians were known for what we\u2019re going to talk about today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014if you were known for generosity and giving, that would change a whole lot of things; wouldn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Think of what would happen in families if a family was made up of a bunch of broken people, who are redeemed by Jesus Christ, who tried to out-give one another, who tried to live such a life of faith that they were always on the edge of believing God for too much rather than too little.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019re not just talking about financial generosity; we\u2019re talking about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m not talking, actually, about financial generosity at all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m just talking about being kind to people and, being in the marketplace, leaving the aroma of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If husbands were generous to wives, wives generous to their husbands, parents to their children and children back to their parents\u2014that would make a remarkable difference; wouldn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It would. My problem is\u2014I\u2019m stingy. Another way of saying that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You want to hang on to the microphone and not pass it off here. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I\u2019m selfish; I\u2019m selfish. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we have a friend\u2014a new friend\u2014here, who was recommended to us by a mutual friend, Crawford Loritts. Crawford said, \u201cYou\u2019ve got to get Jack Alexander on <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>because he\u2019s got a <em>great<\/em> book called <em>The God Guarantee<\/em>.\u201d So, Jack, here you sit. It\u2019s all about who you know, and you knew Crawford. [Laughter] You can\u2019t get a better endorsement than that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, excited to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Glad you\u2019re here. I want to commend his book to our listeners\u2014it really is about what Bob was talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s about moving from scarcity, and unbelief, and fear to being a generous person. You begin the book with a story of a young lad who had <em>enormous<\/em> tragedy, early in his life. I think his name was\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Jaden Hayes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, Jaden Hayes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Share that story with our listeners. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes; Jaden lives in Savannah, Georgia, and he lost his dad. Then a couple of years later, I think, at the age of five, he lost his mother. He said to his aunt\u2014he said, \u201cI\u2019m tired of looking at all the sad faces.\u201d He started something called the Smile Experiment. He personally set a goal to get 30,000 people to smile. He had little dinosaurs \/ little gifts, and his aunt would take him down to a park; and he\u2019d give them to them and cause people to smile. Basically, it got caught up in the news cycle; and it went national and Jaden hit his record, I think, of 30,000.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The point of that story is\u2014because he began by smiling at others, he evoked a response of smiling back from people. As we are generous, generosity is contagious; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> What I like is the fact that he had very little\u2014when you think about a five-year-old or six-year-old boy, who could cause people to smile all over the country. I think that it\u2019s a lie of the enemy that, if you don\u2019t have money or you don\u2019t have resource, that somehow you can\u2019t make a difference; so that\u2019s why I wanted to start off the book with that story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He had two loaves and some fishes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to get to that in a second; [Laughter] but where I wanted to start was\u2014you, as a little boy\u2014because you had a similar experience and, ultimately, had to decide whether your circumstances were going to permanently define you, as a boy who became a man, or whether you were going to do something similar to this young man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes; Dennis, my dad had leukemia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe got it when I was eight, and they made the decision not to tell me or my two older sisters. He died one night when I was nine years old. My mother was a Christian Scientist, so they really both believed that he\u2019d be healed; so when he died, it shattered her life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That really marked your life as being one that was marked by scarcity\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s how you define it; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, and then she got remarried to man she didn\u2019t love so we could have a father. They would always fight about money and had separate bank accounts; so it wasn\u2019t just \u201cWhat are we going to do?\u201d but \u201cWho\u2019s going to pay for it?\u201d I remember just looking at this, as a young child, thinking, \u201cSomething\u2019s not right here.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So your mindset, growing up, was a mindset that: \u201cIf there are resources, we need to preserve them; we need to hang on to them. We never know how long we\u2019ll have them,\u201d\u2014was that your thinking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think so; because, when you don\u2019t have any resources,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re missing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> \u2014you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re missing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChip Ingram estimates that 85 percent of his radio listeners and people in his church have a scarcity mentality rooted in fear. The reason I wrote the book was: the prosperity gospel is one lie, but the scarcity mindset is another lie; so I studied the Scriptures to find out \u201cHow can we access God\u2019s abundance?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want you to unpack the word, \u201cscarce,\u201d because it\u2019s\u2014I\u2019ve been chewing on it since I got into your book. I think you\u2019re exactly right about most of us having a scarcity mentality, or one based upon fear; but unpack it for our listeners.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> A famous speaker, Bren\u00e9 Brown\u2014she calls \u201cnot enough\u201d the post-traumatic stress disorder of today and that everybody feels like there\u2019s not enough time; there\u2019s not enough money; there\u2019s not enough love; there\u2019s not enough relationships. Definitely, this book is not a book about how to access money; it\u2019s really to have the life that Jesus wants us all to have\u2014an abundant life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, Bob talked about a situation that Jesus Christ was facing\u20145,000 people, who didn\u2019t have enough food to eat. Unpack that story and how it illustrates what you\u2019re talking about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes; well, that\u2019s what the book is based on. There\u2019s five instances in the New Testament of this pattern of provision that God takes. When you take the actual numbers of times they are listed\u2014for example, the feeding of the 5,000 is in all Gospels. It\u2019s the only miracle that\u2019s in every Gospel except for the resurrection. When I studied this, I saw God provided spiritually, relationally, and practically. Basically, the premise of the book is that, if we really understood <em>how<\/em> God provides, then we wouldn\u2019t be afraid.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Describe somebody who has a scarcity mindset. Draw a picture for me of what that looks like and what that means for a husband and wife, who are\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they\u2019ve got a job and three kids. They\u2019re paying their bills and trying to live life. What does the scarcity mindset look like?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, Bob, I think it\u2019s the home I grew up in. It\u2019s like watching my mother and stepfather: \u201cWe can\u2019t afford to go out to dinner,\u201d \u201cWe can\u2019t afford to take a vacation,\u201d \u201cWe can\u2019t afford this,\u201d \u201cWe can\u2019t afford this,\u201d and like the walls come shrinking down. I remember, before they got married, my to-be stepfather took us on a trip to New York. I remember just having so much fun. Then, I was looking forward to that; and it never happened again. I remember on <em>his<\/em> birthday I would give him tickets to the Yankees and the Red Sox. I would buy them, so he could take me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There are families, though, who would say: \u201cWe can\u2019t afford to go out to dinner. We\u2019re trying to manage our budget. We listen to Dave Ramsey, and we\u2019ve got the books, and we\u2019re trying to get out of debt; so we have to live with an accurate appraisal of what we have and what we don\u2019t have.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> What I think, when you really know God for who He is, everything that He\u2019s created is <em>more<\/em>. You take sand\u2014silica is the second most common element on earth. When you separate it and purify it, it turns into silicon\u2014when it\u2019s subjected to extreme heat\u2014and then it becomes silicon, which is the brains of our smartphones. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw that we are all raw materials and, as we allow God to make us into who He wants us to be\u2014we cooperate with this pattern of provision\u2014we, not only become different people, but that He provides for us in unique ways.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, flesh this out for me. If we\u2019re sitting here with a young couple\u2014and they\u2019ve got two kids, and they\u2019ve got $25,000 worth of college debt, and he\u2019s working hard to try and get them out of the hole\u2014it\u2019s not just financial\u2014their life is busy; it\u2019s full\u2014they\u2019re fully engaged. They\u2019re stressed out as a result of that. They\u2019re sitting down with you and saying: \u201cWe recognize that our life is more stressful than it needs to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHow do we get from where we are to where we ought to be?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Right. I would sit down with the couple and tell them two things: \u201cOne, surround yourself with a group of four or five people, who know you and love you, and have them speak into your life\u2014of relationships you might have, assets you might have, things that you\u2019re good at that you might not be exercising. Help them to cast a vision for your lives, where they might see things in your lives.\u201d It could be a person you know that you can invite to have lunch. Because, again, God is sovereign; and this book talks about, as we lean into our relationship with God and with people, God is a Master\u2014He\u2019s the Lord of opening doors and creating new opportunities. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe second thing I would say to them is I\u2019d say: \u201cLook at your lives for what I\u2019d call capacity killers,\u201d because the first thing that Jesus did, when He took the bread, is He looked to heaven. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen He looked to heaven, there was more in those bread and fish than He knew. But Satan\u2014there\u2019s a war around this whole area of capacity\u2014with Satan, when he came to tempt Jesus, the first temptation\u2014he says, \u201cIf you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.\u201d And Jesus said, \u201cIt is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord.\u201d So the first temptation was to provide for yourself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the Lord\u2019s Prayer, the first thing we\u2019re to ask for is: \u201cGive us this day our daily bread.\u201d God is jealous to be this couple\u2019s provider. If you\u2019re listening on the radio, God is jealous to be <em>your<\/em> provider; but there is a lie that\u2019s saying, \u201cWe need to provide for ourselves.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you look at capacity killers, and when you look at this vision of capacity that God has put into you and people you know, it changes the paradigm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to talk about some of those capacity killers; because you discuss this in your book and you list, I don\u2019t know, half a dozen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTake a couple of those that you believe are the biggest. I would say, if Bill Bright, who is the founder of Campus Crusade for Christ<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> was here, he would say materialism is what\u2019s really choking the faith of the church today and why it\u2019s not making a bigger impact.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> And Dennis, that really ties into debt; because oftentimes people are going into debt to get things that they don\u2019t need. When you\u2019ve got debt, all of a sudden, the demands of the creditor can go ahead of the Lord. It can go ahead of your good night\u2019s sleep. So debt would be one capacity killer; you\u2019ve also got drugs; you\u2019ve got alcohol; and you look at kids\u2014who don\u2019t get a good education\u2014that\u2019s stripping out their ability to be productive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you really look at\u2014that God created everything\u2014it\u2019s more than you could imagine. Whether it is planets, or it\u2019s you guys, or any of our radio listeners\u2014there\u2019s capacities in you that only God knows that He wants you to find out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, the word the world loves is \u201cpotential\u201d; because potential is: \u201cWhat can Jack Alexander become?\u201d\u2014it\u2019s about <em>me<\/em>. But when you become a Christian, who I am intersects with the Kingdom of God; and the Kingdom of God causes me to intersect with my weaknesses, and my issues, and my problems. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I lean into relationships, our capacity actually increases\u2014like I\u2019m in the technology business; I\u2019m not a technologist. The first technology company I got involved in\u2014I sat down with the developers and said, \u201cIf you owned this company, what would you do?\u201d They laid out a blueprint of a strategy that we could follow, and we did follow. If I had known a lot about technology, I would have never been humble enough. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe live in a society that is strength-oriented\u2014like I think five million people have taken StrengthsFinder. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod cares about our strengths; but look at Paul\u2014he says, \u201cI glory in my weaknesses because when I\u2019m weak God is strong.\u201d There\u2019s a <em>beauty<\/em> to this area of weakness; and when you see how God provides, it has so much to do with our weakness and brokenness\u2014being honest about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And what I like about your approach is where you started\u2014it\u2019s in community. You said: \u201cGo to four or five people, who really know you well, who are also wise people\u2014people who are living according to the Scriptures\u2014and ask them what they see in your life.\u201d Now, that undoubtedly has happened with you, Jack, or you wouldn\u2019t be providing that advice for our listeners. Who are those people, who have spoken into you, and how did that make a difference in your life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> A number of my Christian friends\u2014like, early on, I got saved in Australia on a business trip. I was there for six months. I fell so in love with the Lord and had this vision of being a pastor \/ a counselor and came back and talked to some of my friends\u2014they said: \u201cYou\u2019d be a <em>terrible<\/em> pastor. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou wouldn\u2019t be a good counselor. We think you\u2019d be a good business person.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I actually had a counselor tell me the same thing! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> I think, sometimes, friends will just speak truth to you and be honest with you. I know, as a business person, I\u2019ve gone into many businesses\u2014again, because I\u2019m coming from the outside, I can see realities and I can have a vision that oftentimes these CEO\u2019s don\u2019t have. In the book, I call it having one foot on the ground and one foot in the clouds\u2014that, oftentimes, as people, we either have both feet in reality and we don\u2019t have faith or a vision of what God could do with us; or we have both feet in the clouds and then we\u2019re not grounded in reality. We really encourage people to be in community; because in community, God\u2019s going to create a mix of people who are both visionaries and realists. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need both; but because we\u2019re sinners, oftentimes, we tend to either have both feet on the ground or both feet in the clouds; and both are sort of either unstable or stuck, and they don\u2019t have the vision and the faith.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You had this idea that you should be a counselor or a pastor; your friends said, \u201cNo; probably not.\u201d Was there somebody, or were there a group of people, who helped you discover what it was that God had made you to be and unleashed your capacity?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> It was really\u2014this sounds overly spiritual\u2014but it was really God, because I was an accountant. After I became a Christian, I came back to Atlanta\u2014was awarded the biggest account in the office. Everybody who ever got that account became partner. The Chief Financial Officer of that company didn\u2019t like me\u2014he calls up the managing partner and says, \u201cI want Alexander off the job.\u201d I got humiliated in front of 700 people. I said to my wife, \u201cI know God wants us to be humble, but does He want to humiliate us too?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey gave me a tiny little account nobody had ever heard of, and it was my future employer; he hired me two years later. I went to work with him as a Chief Financial Officer\u2014again, an accountant\u2014and one day he walks in and says \u201cJack, let\u2019s start a business together.\u201d We started a business. I became a CEO; and the company grew from really the two of us to six thousand employees, involved in a services industry and a technology company.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> People hear a success story\u2014a business success story\u2014but I\u2019m looking for that kernel in <em>you<\/em>, where you said: \u201cI was made for more than just being an accountant. God\u2019s got something in me that I need to unleash, and unlock, and put to work.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, this is hard to say, guys; but when you grow up without a dad\u2014where you never have one person to go to a game, one person to give you advice, one person to say, \u201cThis is what I think you could be,\u201d\u2014that scarcity thinking and that fear\u2014it ruled me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was just totally in a survival mindset. I had no perspective over what I could be good at. Some guy, who lived in Europe, said, \u201cJack,\u201d\u2014in fact, when we started this\u2014\u201cI want you to be in charge of it.\u201d He saw something in me that I didn\u2019t see in myself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You started to get emotional, reliving what it was like, as a young man, to have not had that male voice imprinting your soul, your mind, your personhood, as a young man, who was a leader but didn\u2019t know it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, and God\u2019s been great. I have three sons and five grandkids, and four of them are boys. I mentor four boys, without dads, who lost their fathers like I did. I think a lot of people don\u2019t know what it\u2019s like to hear the word, \u201cfather,\u201d and a total blank screen comes up in your mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know that there\u2019s people [listening to] this broadcast who have had abusive fathers or hurtful fathers, and that is even worse than my situation. But again, when people try to find capacity in their life, they say, \u201cJack, where do I start?\u201d I say: \u201cWhere have you been hurt the most? Where have you been broken?\u201d And again, the world says, \u201cGo to strength\u201d; and I say, \u201cGo to weakness; because in that weakness, that\u2019s where God can be strong.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell you\u2014when these four boys that I mentor\u2014one of them became captain of his high school or college golf team. They had a father\/son weekend. He says \u201cJack, can you come up and spend the weekend with me?\u201d [Emotion in voice] A healing takes place when you lean into where you\u2019ve been hurt the most.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In your book, you go back to the feeding of the five thousand. You just very simply, but I thought profoundly, simplified what Jesus did. You just described what He did in your life. Here are the words you used\u2014you said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJesus took the bread. He takes; He sees the capacity; He sees the possibility in the person; and He takes them and then He decides to bless them. And that\u2019s the second thing that Jesus did. He took the bread and He blessed it. He looked to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s what you\u2019re saying: \u201cFor when I am weak, then He is strong in my life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen third, He breaks the bread. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that also is what you were talking about that occurred in your life\u2014out of weakness\/out of brokenness. There isn\u2019t a listener, who is listening to us right now, who\u2014whether he knows it or she knows it or not\u2014is very broken. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are <em>all<\/em> very broken. And then finally, you said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJesus gives to a group of people. He takes; He blesses; He breaks; He gives\u2014and that is the message of the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think there are probably a lot of people, who are thinking: \u201cI don\u2019t know what my capacity is. I\u2019m so aware of my deficiencies that I can\u2019t see any capacity, because they\u2019re covered up with deficiencies.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And Bob, there\u2019s where Jack really started this whole conversation in the beginning\u2014is it\u2019s with community. Find some people, who know you, and give them the freedom to speak into your life. In isolation, you\u2019re <em>never<\/em> going to find out who you are; in fact, isolation is the enemy\u2019s strategy. If he can keep you from people, he can convince you of anything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Maybe, in community, you can go through Jack\u2019s book\u2014all of you together\u2014and talk about these principles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe book is called <em>The God Guarantee: Finding Freedom from the Fear of Not Having Enough<\/em>. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. Again, the title of the book is <em>The God Guarantee<\/em> by Jack Alexander. Order online at FamilyLIfeToday.com, or call 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, one of the things we\u2019re encouraging families to do this summer is to spend some time thinking about issues like generosity. Our team has put together a downloadable four-week devotional with some ideas for family activities as well as interaction together around four different themes: developing healthy communication, learning kindness, service, and gratitude\u2014godly character qualities that all of us can be growing together in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, the downloadable series is called the <em>Growing Together<\/em> devotion series. It\u2019s available to any of you who\u2019d like to download it and spend some intentional time this summer, as a family, thinking on these themes. You can download it from our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Just look for the link when you go to the website, and it\u2019s a free download. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese kinds of resources are a part of our mission, here, at FamilyLife. We want to effectively develop godly marriages and families, who change the world, one home at a time. We\u2019re grateful for our Legacy Partners and those of you who contribute, from time to time, to help make, not only this radio program possible and all of the ways it\u2019s being heard now around the world, but also resources like the <em>Growing<\/em> <em>Together<\/em> devotion series. 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Alexander believes that each person always has something to give, if not financially, then through their time and talents. Alexander cautions listeners to avoid capacity killers and to lean into God.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2018-06-21.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Are you limited by your capacity? Jack Alexander says, if we understand who God is correctly, the right answer to that is: \u201cNo; we\u2019re not limited.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> There\u2019s a war around this whole area of capacity. With Satan, when he came to tempt Jesus, the first temptation was: \u201cIf You are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.\u201d And Jesus said, \u201cIt is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord.\u201d The first temptation was to provide for yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, June 21<sup>st<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. Jack Alexander says many of us have a scarcity mindset. He wants to talk to us about how we can have an abundance mindset. We\u2019ll hear about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. So, you know, I\u2019ve never stopped to think but I think it\u2019s probably true that, if Christians were known for what we\u2019re going to talk about today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014if you were known for generosity and giving, that would change a whole lot of things; wouldn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Think of what would happen in families if a family was made up of a bunch of broken people, who are redeemed by Jesus Christ, who tried to out-give one another, who tried to live such a life of faith that they were always on the edge of believing God for too much rather than too little.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019re not just talking about financial generosity; we\u2019re talking about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m not talking, actually, about financial generosity at all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m just talking about being kind to people and, being in the marketplace, leaving the aroma of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If husbands were generous to wives, wives generous to their husbands, parents to their children and children back to their parents\u2014that would make a remarkable difference; wouldn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It would. My problem is\u2014I\u2019m stingy. Another way of saying that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You want to hang on to the microphone and not pass it off here. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I\u2019m selfish; I\u2019m selfish. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we have a friend\u2014a new friend\u2014here, who was recommended to us by a mutual friend, Crawford Loritts. Crawford said, \u201cYou\u2019ve got to get Jack Alexander on <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>because he\u2019s got a <em>great<\/em> book called <em>The God Guarantee<\/em>.\u201d So, Jack, here you sit. It\u2019s all about who you know, and you knew Crawford. [Laughter] You can\u2019t get a better endorsement than that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, excited to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Glad you\u2019re here. I want to commend his book to our listeners\u2014it really is about what Bob was talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s about moving from scarcity, and unbelief, and fear to being a generous person. You begin the book with a story of a young lad who had <em>enormous<\/em> tragedy, early in his life. I think his name was\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Jaden Hayes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, Jaden Hayes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Share that story with our listeners. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes; Jaden lives in Savannah, Georgia, and he lost his dad. Then a couple of years later, I think, at the age of five, he lost his mother. He said to his aunt\u2014he said, \u201cI\u2019m tired of looking at all the sad faces.\u201d He started something called the Smile Experiment. He personally set a goal to get 30,000 people to smile. He had little dinosaurs \/ little gifts, and his aunt would take him down to a park; and he\u2019d give them to them and cause people to smile. Basically, it got caught up in the news cycle; and it went national and Jaden hit his record, I think, of 30,000.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The point of that story is\u2014because he began by smiling at others, he evoked a response of smiling back from people. As we are generous, generosity is contagious; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> What I like is the fact that he had very little\u2014when you think about a five-year-old or six-year-old boy, who could cause people to smile all over the country. I think that it\u2019s a lie of the enemy that, if you don\u2019t have money or you don\u2019t have resource, that somehow you can\u2019t make a difference; so that\u2019s why I wanted to start off the book with that story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He had two loaves and some fishes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to get to that in a second; [Laughter] but where I wanted to start was\u2014you, as a little boy\u2014because you had a similar experience and, ultimately, had to decide whether your circumstances were going to permanently define you, as a boy who became a man, or whether you were going to do something similar to this young man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes; Dennis, my dad had leukemia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe got it when I was eight, and they made the decision not to tell me or my two older sisters. He died one night when I was nine years old. My mother was a Christian Scientist, so they really both believed that he\u2019d be healed; so when he died, it shattered her life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That really marked your life as being one that was marked by scarcity\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s how you define it; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, and then she got remarried to man she didn\u2019t love so we could have a father. They would always fight about money and had separate bank accounts; so it wasn\u2019t just \u201cWhat are we going to do?\u201d but \u201cWho\u2019s going to pay for it?\u201d I remember just looking at this, as a young child, thinking, \u201cSomething\u2019s not right here.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So your mindset, growing up, was a mindset that: \u201cIf there are resources, we need to preserve them; we need to hang on to them. We never know how long we\u2019ll have them,\u201d\u2014was that your thinking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think so; because, when you don\u2019t have any resources,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re missing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> \u2014you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re missing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChip Ingram estimates that 85 percent of his radio listeners and people in his church have a scarcity mentality rooted in fear. The reason I wrote the book was: the prosperity gospel is one lie, but the scarcity mindset is another lie; so I studied the Scriptures to find out \u201cHow can we access God\u2019s abundance?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want you to unpack the word, \u201cscarce,\u201d because it\u2019s\u2014I\u2019ve been chewing on it since I got into your book. I think you\u2019re exactly right about most of us having a scarcity mentality, or one based upon fear; but unpack it for our listeners.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> A famous speaker, Bren\u00e9 Brown\u2014she calls \u201cnot enough\u201d the post-traumatic stress disorder of today and that everybody feels like there\u2019s not enough time; there\u2019s not enough money; there\u2019s not enough love; there\u2019s not enough relationships. Definitely, this book is not a book about how to access money; it\u2019s really to have the life that Jesus wants us all to have\u2014an abundant life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, Bob talked about a situation that Jesus Christ was facing\u20145,000 people, who didn\u2019t have enough food to eat. Unpack that story and how it illustrates what you\u2019re talking about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Yes; well, that\u2019s what the book is based on. There\u2019s five instances in the New Testament of this pattern of provision that God takes. When you take the actual numbers of times they are listed\u2014for example, the feeding of the 5,000 is in all Gospels. It\u2019s the only miracle that\u2019s in every Gospel except for the resurrection. When I studied this, I saw God provided spiritually, relationally, and practically. Basically, the premise of the book is that, if we really understood <em>how<\/em> God provides, then we wouldn\u2019t be afraid.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Describe somebody who has a scarcity mindset. Draw a picture for me of what that looks like and what that means for a husband and wife, who are\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they\u2019ve got a job and three kids. They\u2019re paying their bills and trying to live life. What does the scarcity mindset look like?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, Bob, I think it\u2019s the home I grew up in. It\u2019s like watching my mother and stepfather: \u201cWe can\u2019t afford to go out to dinner,\u201d \u201cWe can\u2019t afford to take a vacation,\u201d \u201cWe can\u2019t afford this,\u201d \u201cWe can\u2019t afford this,\u201d and like the walls come shrinking down. I remember, before they got married, my to-be stepfather took us on a trip to New York. I remember just having so much fun. Then, I was looking forward to that; and it never happened again. I remember on <em>his<\/em> birthday I would give him tickets to the Yankees and the Red Sox. I would buy them, so he could take me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There are families, though, who would say: \u201cWe can\u2019t afford to go out to dinner. We\u2019re trying to manage our budget. We listen to Dave Ramsey, and we\u2019ve got the books, and we\u2019re trying to get out of debt; so we have to live with an accurate appraisal of what we have and what we don\u2019t have.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> What I think, when you really know God for who He is, everything that He\u2019s created is <em>more<\/em>. You take sand\u2014silica is the second most common element on earth. When you separate it and purify it, it turns into silicon\u2014when it\u2019s subjected to extreme heat\u2014and then it becomes silicon, which is the brains of our smartphones. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw that we are all raw materials and, as we allow God to make us into who He wants us to be\u2014we cooperate with this pattern of provision\u2014we, not only become different people, but that He provides for us in unique ways.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, flesh this out for me. If we\u2019re sitting here with a young couple\u2014and they\u2019ve got two kids, and they\u2019ve got $25,000 worth of college debt, and he\u2019s working hard to try and get them out of the hole\u2014it\u2019s not just financial\u2014their life is busy; it\u2019s full\u2014they\u2019re fully engaged. They\u2019re stressed out as a result of that. They\u2019re sitting down with you and saying: \u201cWe recognize that our life is more stressful than it needs to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHow do we get from where we are to where we ought to be?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Right. I would sit down with the couple and tell them two things: \u201cOne, surround yourself with a group of four or five people, who know you and love you, and have them speak into your life\u2014of relationships you might have, assets you might have, things that you\u2019re good at that you might not be exercising. Help them to cast a vision for your lives, where they might see things in your lives.\u201d It could be a person you know that you can invite to have lunch. Because, again, God is sovereign; and this book talks about, as we lean into our relationship with God and with people, God is a Master\u2014He\u2019s the Lord of opening doors and creating new opportunities. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe second thing I would say to them is I\u2019d say: \u201cLook at your lives for what I\u2019d call capacity killers,\u201d because the first thing that Jesus did, when He took the bread, is He looked to heaven. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen He looked to heaven, there was more in those bread and fish than He knew. But Satan\u2014there\u2019s a war around this whole area of capacity\u2014with Satan, when he came to tempt Jesus, the first temptation\u2014he says, \u201cIf you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.\u201d And Jesus said, \u201cIt is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord.\u201d So the first temptation was to provide for yourself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the Lord\u2019s Prayer, the first thing we\u2019re to ask for is: \u201cGive us this day our daily bread.\u201d God is jealous to be this couple\u2019s provider. If you\u2019re listening on the radio, God is jealous to be <em>your<\/em> provider; but there is a lie that\u2019s saying, \u201cWe need to provide for ourselves.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you look at capacity killers, and when you look at this vision of capacity that God has put into you and people you know, it changes the paradigm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to talk about some of those capacity killers; because you discuss this in your book and you list, I don\u2019t know, half a dozen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTake a couple of those that you believe are the biggest. I would say, if Bill Bright, who is the founder of Campus Crusade for Christ<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> was here, he would say materialism is what\u2019s really choking the faith of the church today and why it\u2019s not making a bigger impact.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> And Dennis, that really ties into debt; because oftentimes people are going into debt to get things that they don\u2019t need. When you\u2019ve got debt, all of a sudden, the demands of the creditor can go ahead of the Lord. It can go ahead of your good night\u2019s sleep. So debt would be one capacity killer; you\u2019ve also got drugs; you\u2019ve got alcohol; and you look at kids\u2014who don\u2019t get a good education\u2014that\u2019s stripping out their ability to be productive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you really look at\u2014that God created everything\u2014it\u2019s more than you could imagine. Whether it is planets, or it\u2019s you guys, or any of our radio listeners\u2014there\u2019s capacities in you that only God knows that He wants you to find out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, the word the world loves is \u201cpotential\u201d; because potential is: \u201cWhat can Jack Alexander become?\u201d\u2014it\u2019s about <em>me<\/em>. But when you become a Christian, who I am intersects with the Kingdom of God; and the Kingdom of God causes me to intersect with my weaknesses, and my issues, and my problems. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I lean into relationships, our capacity actually increases\u2014like I\u2019m in the technology business; I\u2019m not a technologist. The first technology company I got involved in\u2014I sat down with the developers and said, \u201cIf you owned this company, what would you do?\u201d They laid out a blueprint of a strategy that we could follow, and we did follow. If I had known a lot about technology, I would have never been humble enough. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe live in a society that is strength-oriented\u2014like I think five million people have taken StrengthsFinder. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod cares about our strengths; but look at Paul\u2014he says, \u201cI glory in my weaknesses because when I\u2019m weak God is strong.\u201d There\u2019s a <em>beauty<\/em> to this area of weakness; and when you see how God provides, it has so much to do with our weakness and brokenness\u2014being honest about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And what I like about your approach is where you started\u2014it\u2019s in community. You said: \u201cGo to four or five people, who really know you well, who are also wise people\u2014people who are living according to the Scriptures\u2014and ask them what they see in your life.\u201d Now, that undoubtedly has happened with you, Jack, or you wouldn\u2019t be providing that advice for our listeners. Who are those people, who have spoken into you, and how did that make a difference in your life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> A number of my Christian friends\u2014like, early on, I got saved in Australia on a business trip. I was there for six months. I fell so in love with the Lord and had this vision of being a pastor \/ a counselor and came back and talked to some of my friends\u2014they said: \u201cYou\u2019d be a <em>terrible<\/em> pastor. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou wouldn\u2019t be a good counselor. We think you\u2019d be a good business person.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I actually had a counselor tell me the same thing! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> I think, sometimes, friends will just speak truth to you and be honest with you. I know, as a business person, I\u2019ve gone into many businesses\u2014again, because I\u2019m coming from the outside, I can see realities and I can have a vision that oftentimes these CEO\u2019s don\u2019t have. In the book, I call it having one foot on the ground and one foot in the clouds\u2014that, oftentimes, as people, we either have both feet in reality and we don\u2019t have faith or a vision of what God could do with us; or we have both feet in the clouds and then we\u2019re not grounded in reality. We really encourage people to be in community; because in community, God\u2019s going to create a mix of people who are both visionaries and realists. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need both; but because we\u2019re sinners, oftentimes, we tend to either have both feet on the ground or both feet in the clouds; and both are sort of either unstable or stuck, and they don\u2019t have the vision and the faith.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You had this idea that you should be a counselor or a pastor; your friends said, \u201cNo; probably not.\u201d Was there somebody, or were there a group of people, who helped you discover what it was that God had made you to be and unleashed your capacity?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> It was really\u2014this sounds overly spiritual\u2014but it was really God, because I was an accountant. After I became a Christian, I came back to Atlanta\u2014was awarded the biggest account in the office. Everybody who ever got that account became partner. The Chief Financial Officer of that company didn\u2019t like me\u2014he calls up the managing partner and says, \u201cI want Alexander off the job.\u201d I got humiliated in front of 700 people. I said to my wife, \u201cI know God wants us to be humble, but does He want to humiliate us too?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey gave me a tiny little account nobody had ever heard of, and it was my future employer; he hired me two years later. I went to work with him as a Chief Financial Officer\u2014again, an accountant\u2014and one day he walks in and says \u201cJack, let\u2019s start a business together.\u201d We started a business. I became a CEO; and the company grew from really the two of us to six thousand employees, involved in a services industry and a technology company.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> People hear a success story\u2014a business success story\u2014but I\u2019m looking for that kernel in <em>you<\/em>, where you said: \u201cI was made for more than just being an accountant. God\u2019s got something in me that I need to unleash, and unlock, and put to work.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, this is hard to say, guys; but when you grow up without a dad\u2014where you never have one person to go to a game, one person to give you advice, one person to say, \u201cThis is what I think you could be,\u201d\u2014that scarcity thinking and that fear\u2014it ruled me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was just totally in a survival mindset. I had no perspective over what I could be good at. Some guy, who lived in Europe, said, \u201cJack,\u201d\u2014in fact, when we started this\u2014\u201cI want you to be in charge of it.\u201d He saw something in me that I didn\u2019t see in myself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You started to get emotional, reliving what it was like, as a young man, to have not had that male voice imprinting your soul, your mind, your personhood, as a young man, who was a leader but didn\u2019t know it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jack:<\/strong> Well, and God\u2019s been great. I have three sons and five grandkids, and four of them are boys. I mentor four boys, without dads, who lost their fathers like I did. I think a lot of people don\u2019t know what it\u2019s like to hear the word, \u201cfather,\u201d and a total blank screen comes up in your mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know that there\u2019s people [listening to] this broadcast who have had abusive fathers or hurtful fathers, and that is even worse than my situation. But again, when people try to find capacity in their life, they say, \u201cJack, where do I start?\u201d I say: \u201cWhere have you been hurt the most? Where have you been broken?\u201d And again, the world says, \u201cGo to strength\u201d; and I say, \u201cGo to weakness; because in that weakness, that\u2019s where God can be strong.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell you\u2014when these four boys that I mentor\u2014one of them became captain of his high school or college golf team. They had a father\/son weekend. He says \u201cJack, can you come up and spend the weekend with me?\u201d [Emotion in voice] A healing takes place when you lean into where you\u2019ve been hurt the most.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In your book, you go back to the feeding of the five thousand. You just very simply, but I thought profoundly, simplified what Jesus did. You just described what He did in your life. Here are the words you used\u2014you said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJesus took the bread. He takes; He sees the capacity; He sees the possibility in the person; and He takes them and then He decides to bless them. And that\u2019s the second thing that Jesus did. He took the bread and He blessed it. He looked to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s what you\u2019re saying: \u201cFor when I am weak, then He is strong in my life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen third, He breaks the bread. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that also is what you were talking about that occurred in your life\u2014out of weakness\/out of brokenness. There isn\u2019t a listener, who is listening to us right now, who\u2014whether he knows it or she knows it or not\u2014is very broken. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are <em>all<\/em> very broken. And then finally, you said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJesus gives to a group of people. He takes; He blesses; He breaks; He gives\u2014and that is the message of the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think there are probably a lot of people, who are thinking: \u201cI don\u2019t know what my capacity is. I\u2019m so aware of my deficiencies that I can\u2019t see any capacity, because they\u2019re covered up with deficiencies.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And Bob, there\u2019s where Jack really started this whole conversation in the beginning\u2014is it\u2019s with community. Find some people, who know you, and give them the freedom to speak into your life. In isolation, you\u2019re <em>never<\/em> going to find out who you are; in fact, isolation is the enemy\u2019s strategy. If he can keep you from people, he can convince you of anything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Maybe, in community, you can go through Jack\u2019s book\u2014all of you together\u2014and talk about these principles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe book is called <em>The God Guarantee: Finding Freedom from the Fear of Not Having Enough<\/em>. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. Again, the title of the book is <em>The God Guarantee<\/em> by Jack Alexander. Order online at FamilyLIfeToday.com, or call 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, one of the things we\u2019re encouraging families to do this summer is to spend some time thinking about issues like generosity. Our team has put together a downloadable four-week devotional with some ideas for family activities as well as interaction together around four different themes: developing healthy communication, learning kindness, service, and gratitude\u2014godly character qualities that all of us can be growing together in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, the downloadable series is called the <em>Growing Together<\/em> devotion series. It\u2019s available to any of you who\u2019d like to download it and spend some intentional time this summer, as a family, thinking on these themes. You can download it from our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Just look for the link when you go to the website, and it\u2019s a free download. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese kinds of resources are a part of our mission, here, at FamilyLife. We want to effectively develop godly marriages and families, who change the world, one home at a time. 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Again, you can download it for free when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you are one of those, who has been a long-time listener to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, and you\u2019ve never made a donation, we\u2019d love to have you pitch in and help support the work that we\u2019re doing, here, at FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s easy to do: you can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to talk about the story of the loaves and the fishes\u2014a familiar story for many of us. We want to hear how that story informs our thinking about things like scarcity and abundance. Jack Alexander is going to be back with us tomorrow. 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