{"id":300183,"date":"2018-03-21T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-03-21T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/gospel-centered-parenting\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:41:22","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:41:22","slug":"gospel-centered-parenting","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/gospel-centered-parenting\/","title":{"rendered":"Gospel-Centered Parenting"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Todd Friel talks to parents of prodigals who feel they are to blame for their child&#8217;s waywardness. Friel reminds parents that it&#8217;s their job to be faithful. 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He said, after that prayer, nothing in his life really changed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>I had been a rebel from sunup till sundown, never thinking to thank Him for His good gifts, let alone for His Son. That\u2019s what was missing the first time around. The first time, I thought it was cool\u2014it was a \u201cGet out of hell\u201d pass. This time, I\u2019ve seen the sacrifice of the Father in sending His Son and how I had not lived in response to that. He convicted me of my sin \/ He crushed me, so there was a guilt that led me to Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, March 21<sup>st<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. So maybe <em>your<\/em> son or daughter prayed a prayer as a child. Did that prayer mean anything to them? Has there been a change in their life? How can you know? We\u2019re going to explore that subject today with Todd Friel. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re going to talk about a subject\u2014in fact, I think this book we\u2019re talking about today\u2014if the subtitle comes with a money-back guarantee, I predict this is a <em>New York Times<\/em> best seller, right there; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, let\u2019s ask him!\u00a0 Todd Friel joins us on the broadcast. Are you guaranteeing our kids will not backslide?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You know, there\u2019s just a little star by\u2014a little caveat \/ <em>nota bene.<\/em> [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014disclaimer. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You may be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014disclaimer\u2014disclaimer\u2014disclaimer! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You know\u2014actually, gentlemen, let\u2019s start right there; because I am quite certain somebody has a prodigal child, and they are blaming themselves for it. I think it\u2019s important to remember you can\u2019t get your child saved\u2014you can\u2019t keep your child \/ you can\u2019t get him glorified\u2014so take yourself off of the hook that God does not have you on. God saves our kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Our job<\/em> is to be faithful parents. If you have a wandering child\u2014first of all, you are not responsible for their decisions. Second of all, please know that God has written about a billion prodigal stories; so don\u2019t write off your child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Todd is the host of a daily syndicated radio program and a TV\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>\u2014which is why I just kind of want to jump\u2014Oh, I\u2019m sorry! Go ahead.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No; that\u2019s okay! [Laughter] The TV program is called\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You\u2019re not willing to say it; are you? [Laughter] You\u2019re embarrassed for me. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No; I\u2019m not embarrassed! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014straight from Romans 7.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just think\u2014I just think it\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>It\u2019s from Romans 7. It\u2019s not what a cat does. It\u2019s called, <em>Wretched<\/em>,as in \u201cWretched man that I am,\u201d\u2014also\u2014\u201c\u2026that saved a <em>wretch<\/em> like me.\u201d It\u2019s called, <em>Wretched<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The name of the radio program is?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>The same. We\u2019re not that varied \/ we\u2019re just not that clever\u2014same thing!\u2014<em>Wretched<\/em> and <em>Wretched<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> <em>Wretched<\/em> radio and <em>Wretched<\/em> TV. Todd has been married to his wife Susan since 1990. They have three children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s go back to when you became a follower of Jesus Christ. How did you come to faith in Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Well, after I\u2019d studied to be a pastor, I got saved. You see, they didn\u2019t ask, on the resume, if you were actually born again. I wasn\u2019t\u2014I was a false convert. I studied to be a pastor, but I wasn\u2019t even a <em>believer<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you grew up going to church.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>No, sir; I did not! I started getting <em>taken<\/em> to church in eighth grade. I had a <em>terrible<\/em> fear of hell, as a child. I know <em>nothing<\/em> about church, but I was <em>terrified<\/em> of death\u2014almost obsessively terrified about death. I used to pray, obsessively, to a god I did not know: \u201cPlease let me live forever,\u201d\u2014I mean, not like \u201c\u2026die and go to heaven,\u201d because I didn\u2019t know that\u2014I mean, line on earth, older than Methuselah, live forever\u2014that\u2019s what I wanted, because I was so afraid to die.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>So when I went to church and I heard \u201cIf you just believe in Jesus, you won\u2019t go to hell; you\u2019ll go to heaven,\u201d I was all in; but I didn\u2019t repent and put my trust in Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was kind of \u201cGet out of hell\u201d-free card; but I <em>never<\/em> turned from my sins, put my whole-hearted trust in Him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>\u2014that came much later in life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you were in enough with what was going on in church that you thought, \u201cI wanted to be a pastor.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; but, okay; again, you\u2019re going to see inside my wicked heart. It\u2019s because I wanted to be in church, but I wanted to be the guy in front. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You wanted people to look at you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So did you go to seminary? Is that where you found Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>No; no. It wasn\u2019t until after we got married. I didn\u2019t go into the pastoral ministry, which is a blessing to everybody. We\u2019ve got far too many people who aren\u2019t saved that are in pastoral ministry\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Ohhh! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>\u2014unfortunately. Well, I went to school with some of them. I know I would have been one of them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>I got saved later; God <em>graciously<\/em> opened up my eyes. I was a self-righteous, pompous\u2014I was quite a legalist. Theology was my bag; and if you didn\u2019t line up and have every box checked theologically, I thought I <em>you <\/em>were the hell-bound sinner not me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay; let\u2019s back up one step before you end up telling us how you did come to faith in Christ. How did you persuade Susan to go out on a date and then, ultimately,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with a pompous, self-righteous guy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>I met her in church; y\u2019all! How\u2019s my \u201cy\u2019all,\u201d by the way? I\u2019ve only been in the South 10 years\u2014how\u2019s it doin\u2019?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Uh, \u201cC\u201d minus. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Wow!\u2014like my educational career!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe met in a church. I was asked to write a youth drama for some big youth meeting that was going on. The pastor said, \u201cWell, I know this girl who could play this role.\u201d I\u2019m really\u2014I do not believe I\u2019m exaggerating. I was in a basement of a church in St. Paul, Minnesota; and I saw a pair of red pumps, connected to some ankles\u2014that had a white dress that had a big red belt on\u2014with an <em>amazing<\/em> explosion of blonde hair\u2014it was clearly the \u201880s. I immediately said, \u201cThat\u2019s my wife.\u201d We got married!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no, no, no! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Well, probably, not like that <em>second<\/em>. We got to know each other and stuff, but I <em>knew<\/em> that was going to be my wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So how long did you date before you asked her to marry you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>It was just four years. [Laughter] We had some ups and downs\u2014look, we didn\u2019t have mentors\u2014and this whole courtship\u2014we didn\u2019t have <em>you guys<\/em> to help us in the process. We made a complete hash of it. Nevertheless, God was kind; He gave me a much better woman than I deserved!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So how did you propose to her? You\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>One of the worst days of my life!\u2014you know, can I just tell you? Thanks for bringing up another painful subject. Perhaps you\u2019d like to give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice in it too. [Laughter] This is one of the regrets of my life. This demonstrates what an arrogant thing I was. Guys, I had a suit on to propose to my wife. We were on the dock on the Mississippi River. I didn\u2019t want to get my suit dirty, so I didn\u2019t kneel down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oooh, man!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>So, fast-forward 20 years. Now, I\u2019ve got a chance to do a make-good on the proposal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe go out to a special dinner. I bought her a ring to ask her if she\u2019d stay married to me for another 20 years. This is my chance now to get down on a knee and humble myself and ask her to stay married to me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut this is what happens after 20 years\u2014I start to push the table out; and she said: \u201cWhat\u2019s the matter? Is something wrong?\u201d \u201cNo;\u201d\u2014I said\u2014\u201ceverything is fine.\u201d I start to kneel down and she said: \u201cWhat are you doing down there?! It\u2019s filthy; get up!\u201d And at that moment, I pulled a hamstring. I\u2019m on my knee, going, \u201cAh; ah.\u201d [She says:] \u201cIt\u2019s filthy! I don\u2019t think they\u2019ve vacuumed in here!\u201d That was the romantic moment we shared, where I asked her to stay married to me. [Laughter] That\u2019s what happens after 20 years! It was gloriously romantic. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did Susan think she was marrying a Christian? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes. [Spoken with hesitation]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You thought she was marrying a Christian.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; but she would tell you she wasn\u2019t a Christian either. She was the church-going type. It wasn\u2019t until she took a Kay Arthur Precepts on Covenant\u2014and reading through the Book of Hebrews and studying it\u2014where she realized that Book is true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen she saw the imagery that the Temple was a picture of Jesus\u2014that He came and tabernacled among His people\u2014when she saw that the candlestick \/ that Jesus is the Light of the world\u2014that bread on the table \/ that He\u2019s the Bread of Life\u2014when He was the curtain that was torn so we could have access to the Father\u2014then she realized this Book is true; she got saved too. God was very kind to do it for both of us at about the same time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay; let\u2019s go back to your story\u2014of how you fell under the conviction of God that you needed Jesus Christ to be your Savior and that you weren\u2019t going to find your way to heaven based on your works.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; yes. Started listening to guy on the radio called Chuck Swindoll. Have you heard of him? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis &amp;<\/strong> <strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>It started to make sense\u2014his <em>Insight for Living<\/em>. He takes the theology that I\u2019d been learning; but he brings it down to the road, and I see what he\u2019s doing there. We started listening; and I thought, \u201cWell, let\u2019s go and find a church like his.\u201d We looked up his denomination in\u2014[pause]\u2014a phone book\u2014[Laughter]\u2014remember those? We looked it up in the phone book\u2014went to the local church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife stayed home that morning, and I went. It was the kindness of God that led me to repentance\u2014there\u2019s no mistake about it! We should have a fear of the Lord\u2014we should be afraid of His wrath and His judgment; but ultimately, Romans 2\u2014we should see the One who is kind enough to <em>save<\/em> us from hell and want Him. We become tear-filled converts, not just fear-filled converts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe pastor\u2014lovely man\u2014at the end of his sermon said: \u201cI want everybody to close their eyes, for just a moment. I want to read something to you.\u201d It was something that has made the rounds of the internet, but it was basically Jesus writing a letter to you. It was Jesus saying\u2014and I\u2019m going to get <em>verklempt<\/em> [overcome with emotion] over this\u2014Jesus saying: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw you wake up this morning, and I was hoping that you would take a moment and stop and talk to Me; but you didn\u2019t, but that\u2019s okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll wait for you because I love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you walked out the door, I gave you a sunrise so that you would think of Me and perhaps talk to Me; but you didn\u2019t, but I love you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, he read through this entire\u2014and I realized, by the time he was done, what a sinful, wicked, ungrateful presumptuous man that I had been\u2014to never stop and thank God for my wife, and for fine things, for Him\u2014for His Son. I had been a rebel, from sunup to sundown, never thinking to thank Him for His good gifts, let alone for His Son. It broke me. I am not a pretty crier\u2014I sat there in a\u2014guys, snot, [making sobbing noises] crying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cYou\u2019re dismissed.\u201d [More sobbing noises] I just sat there, while everybody left\u2014just broken. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod did that for me for <em>weeks<\/em>\u2014to the point where I had to pull off the road because I couldn\u2019t see through the tears. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe convicted me of my sin and that\u2019s what was missing the first time around. The first time, I thought it was cool\u2014it was a \u201cGet out of hell\u201d pass. This time, I\u2019ve seen the sacrifice of the Father in sending His Son and how I had not lived in response to that. He crushed me, so there was a guilt that led me to Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Todd, you and I have that in common; because I had many years of active involvement. I was leading Young Life clubs, sharing the gospel with people as an unconverted person. Somebody took me to Romans 3 and said: \u201cThis is describing you: \u2018There\u2019s none righteous, no, not one. Nobody seeks after God.\u2019\u201d God brought me to the end of myself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you describe your story, I\u2019m thinking: \u201cHow many folks listening \/ how many folks going to church this Sunday\u2014how many folks, who think, \u2018It\u2019s all good,\u2019\u2014it\u2019s not good; because they haven\u2019t understood the reality of their sin \/ their need for a Savior. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ve just wanted the \u2018Get out of hell\u2019-free card. How do you help somebody like that, who is listening right now, understand there\u2019s a difference between what you think Christianity is and what it really is?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>This is going to sound like hellfire preaching. We used to do this a lot, because it is in the Bible; but it\u2019s should be <em>reasonable<\/em>. Too much hellfire preaching is: \u201cTurn or burn,\u201d \/ \u201cYou\u2019re a sinner; you\u2019re going to hell.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod gave us a tool to know what we are truly like\u2014a mirror called the Law of God. Jesus actually took that Old Testament Law and He <em>magnified<\/em> it in the Sermon on the Mount: \u201cYou have heard it said, \u2018Thou shall not commit adultery.\u2019 But I say, \u2018Look at a woman with lust, you\u2019ve committed adultery in your heart,\u2019\u201d because He knows the Psalm that says, \u201cWill He who made the eye, will He not also see? Will He who made the ear, not also hear?\u201d <em>Everything<\/em> I think is being recorded by God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt will be opened up and revealed, and every deed done in darkness will be brought out into the light. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA man or a woman does well to ask, \u201cHow will I do on that day?\u201d rather than waiting for my day in court\u2014when I will have no chance for appeal \/ when the sentence will be final\u2014when the gavel of justice is slammed down. If God says, \u201cGuilty,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s done! So we do well, today, to look in the mirror of God\u2019s Law and ask: \u201cHave I lusted?\u201d \u201cHave I lied?\u201d \u201cHave I stolen?\u201d \u201cDid I dishonor my parents?\u201d We have to be honest with ourselves and say, \u201cOf course, we have done all that!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cGuilty!\u201d\u2014yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>And when we understand that God is not going to be tricked by a clever lawyer\u2014He has seen the crimes; because the crimes have been committed, primarily, against Him\u2014He <em>knows<\/em> what the record books are because He\u2019s <em>witnessed<\/em> it. Because He\u2019s just and because He\u2019s good, we sometimes think, \u201cWell, if God is loving, He\u2019ll let me go!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, no; because God is loving, He can\u2019t let you go; because He loves justice and He loves fairness. Because of these attributes of love and justice, God <em>must<\/em> give us what we deserve. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome would argue: \u201cHell seems to be a little extreme\u2014eternal conscious torment\u2014that\u2019s awfully harsh!\u201d I understand that; but we need to remember that our sins, by their nature, aren\u2019t so spectacular. The problem is the One against whom we have <em>committed<\/em> the crime. For instance, if I lied to my son, I know what\u2019s going to happen to me\u2014nothing!\u2014he has no power. If I lie to my wife, I\u2019m going to spend the night on a couch. Lie to my boss\u2014I can be fired. Lie to the government\u2014you can go to jail. Same crime\u2014different penalty. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhy? It\u2019s the one against whom we\u2019ve committed the crime. We commit our crimes against the Sovereign of the universe! Our crimes are worthy of eternal, conscious torment. Until a man or woman is willing to be honest about that, and <em>tremble<\/em> before a just and Holy Law, they are not ready to be saved because God resists the proud but He gives grace to the <em>humble<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy plea, if you\u2019re hearing my voice, is: \u201cPlease be honest with yourself. Consider the things that you have done\u2014your lack of gratitude; how you treated your parents; how you haven\u2019t loved God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. Maybe you have looked at images you should not have looked at. Maybe you\u2019ve done things\u2014you don\u2019t have a skeleton in your closet\u2014it\u2019s a graveyard. When we realize that we are in big trouble on that day, then we\u2019re ready for the good news\u2014that God is just; but He\u2019s loving, and He sent His Son to die for sinners\u2014and I mean any sinner.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>To that point, if there is a boy or a girl \/ or mom or dad, listening to this broadcast, and go: \u201cThat\u2019s me! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m ready!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Explain what the faith surrender to the King of kings is to accept what God did for us, as lawbreakers, who have offended Him?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Alright; let\u2019s just say: \u201cGentlemen, it\u2019s a little chilly where we are today.\u201d I say, \u201cFellas, let\u2019s just jump in my car and drive to Mexico. It\u2019s warmer there.\u201d We jump in. I take the steering wheel because I tell you: \u201cI\u2019ve been there and I know the way.\u201d We start driving. Hours go by, and you notice some signs\u2014the bank thermometer sign\u2014it\u2019s actually starting to get colder, not warmer. Instead of palm trees, you\u2019re seeing pine trees. All of a sudden, you see a sign that says, \u201cCanada 118 miles.\u201d I\u2019ve taken you in the wrong direction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s think this through, step by step: \u201cWhat do you want me to do?\u201d Number (1) After pointing out the signs, you want me to agree with you: \u201cYou\u2019re right; I\u2019m wrong.\u201d (2) But you don\u2019t simply want <em>agreement<\/em>; you want me to <em>stop<\/em>. (3) But you don\u2019t want me to just sit there, on the side of the road. I suspect you would like an apology: \u201cI\u2019m sorry. I\u2019ve sinned against you. Please forgive me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut there we sit, on the side of the road. Fourth, you\u2019d like me to turn around but not stay just pointed in the right direction. Fifth, you want me to start driving; and sixth, you don\u2019t want me to stop \u2018til I get there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what we expect\u2014so does God. That\u2019s called repentance. It\u2019s not about perfection; but it\u2019s about recognizing: \u201cI have sinned against the God who died for me. He\u2019s shown me the signs; I\u2019ve sinned against Him. I\u2019m sorry and I want to turn and go in a new direction, because I want the One who saved me\u2014that\u2019s repentance. It\u2019s connected to something called faith\u2014it\u2019s not a mere mental assent. It\u2019s as if you are flying in an airplane, and you discover that you were going to be crashing soon; but there\u2019s a parachute. You wouldn\u2019t just go, \u201cThat parachute could save me,\u201d\u2014you\u2019d put it on. You must put on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. Salvation is available to <em>anybody<\/em> who is listening to my voice right now if you will humble yourself, repent, and put your trust in Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is a pretty big decision. Does a guy just make it in a moment and say, \u201cOkay; I\u2019m in\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>No! If you read Luke 9:1-20\u2014it\u2019s a drubbing [sever thrashing]. Grace is free\u2014period! But when you recognize \/ when you esteem the sacrifice of the Father\u2014Jesus\u2019 call is to deny self \/ to die to self\u2014to start living for the One who died for you. It should really be a no-brainer. It should be because: \u201cI want that! I don\u2019t want the old life; I know what that brought\u2014it brought pain; it brought misery; it brought guilt; it brought shame. He\u2019ll cleanse it\u2014He\u2019ll clean me \/ He\u2019ll give me a reason for living\u2014He\u2019ll give me a hope for the future. That\u2019s the God I want.\u201d That should be pretty easy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> At that point, as you count the cost of repentance and make the turn, there may just be, in the pit of your stomach, two conflicting emotions\u2014first of all, feeling sick at your stomach, \u201cMan, this is going to cost me.\u201d You know what? It cost Christ; so you can accept what He\u2019s done and you can be declared, \u201cNot guilty.\u201d You can be declared, \u201cForgiven.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut secondly, there\u2019s going to be joy; because at that point, you are turning away from the Law and toward a Person. Christianity is a relationship with Almighty God. Bob quoted Romans, Chapter 3. That same passage got my attention too\u2014it was the Person of God\u2014Almighty God\u2014who chased me down, as a young man, and said: \u201cI want a relationship with you. I want to know you as you do life, and I want you to know Me because I am the Life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you experience is, not only the relief of being forgiven, but you\u2019ve got the purpose; you have the relationship; and you have the hope to know where you\u2019re headed as you continue down that road for the rest of your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When that conviction comes, you simply\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014yield!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you say to God: \u201cOkay; I surrender. I\u2019m in.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m in!\u201d It really is a surrender. And by the way, that surrender has to continue to occur on a daily basis\u2014not that you get born again every day\u2014but you surrender to the Lordship of Christ, moment by moment, saying to Him, \u201cNot my will, but Your will,\u201d\u2014and you agree to follow Him in doing whatever He has for you to do today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We started off talking about how parents keep their kids from backsliding, and some of our listeners might think we never really got there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But we may have; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But maybe we did get there, because you keep your kids from backsliding by having them understand the <em>real<\/em> gospel; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly the issue! Most kids, depending on which statistician you follow, 60-80 percent of our evangelical youth leave the home \/ leave youth group\u2014they run off to university and say, \u201cBye-bye,\u201d to their family faith\u201460-80 percent! The reason they backslide is\u2014frankly, is because they never slid forward in the first place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what you are addressing in the book you\u2019ve written, <em>Reset for Parents: How to Keep Your Kids from Backsliding, <\/em>a book we\u2019ve got copies of in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. I\u2019d encourage moms and dads to get a copy of this book\u2014read it through together. <em>Reset for Parents: How to Keep Your Kids from Backsliding<\/em>, by Todd Friel. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order, or call -800-FL-TODAY to get a copy of the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis theme that we are addressing is something that\u2019s right in the heart of a movie that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> is going to be releasing in theatres for two nights only, May 1<sup>st<\/sup> and May 3<sup>rd<\/sup>. It\u2019s a movie called <em>Like Arrows<\/em>. If our listeners haven\u2019t been to our website to see the trailer for the movie, I hope they will go. This is a movie about parents, who had faith as a component of their family, but didn\u2019t have it at the center \/ at the core of what they were doing, as parents. We see how it makes a difference when you shift your priorities, as a parent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, this is going to be in theaters for two nights only, May 1<sup>st<\/sup> and May 3<sup>rd<\/sup>. We\u2019re hoping all of our listeners will plan to join us one of those two nights and be part of the <em>Like Arrows<\/em> movie experience. Find out more at FamilyLifeToday.com; there\u2019s a list of theaters near you that are going to showing this film. If you want the best seats in the house, you buy your tickets now; they\u2019re on sale already. A lot of theaters now have reserved seating, so pick out your seats and join us May 1<sup>st<\/sup> or May 3<sup>rd<\/sup> for the <em>Like Arrows<\/em> movie premier at a theater near you. Find out more at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe <em>Like Arrows<\/em> movie is really the beginning point for a whole strategy on parenting that FamilyLife is launching in 2018. We are going to be releasing an eight-session video series in May called, <em>FamilyLife\u2019s<\/em> <em>Art of<\/em> <em>Parenting<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur hope\u2014our goal\/our desire\u2014is to see this content get into the hands and hearts of people, who aren\u2019t listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and aren\u2019t going to church, and would benefit from hearing about God\u2019s plan for marriage and hearing a clear presentation of the gospel in the midst of that. We are developing a strategy to help reach these families. We\u2019ve got some partners, who want to come alongside and work with us in outreach for this. We\u2019ve calculated it\u2019s going to take about $10 per family to be able to connect with these folks and get this content to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re asking <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners to join us in this endeavor. Our goal is to reach a million people over the next three years in three language groups: in English, in Spanish, and Mandarin. If you\u2019d like to help us reach families, who are not currently going to church, with the gospel and with God\u2019s design for parenting, you can donate today to FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a donation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you do, we will sent you, as a thank-you gift, a set of seven prayer cards; each of these cards has a different character quality, along with suggestions of how you can be praying for God to imprint these character qualities in the life of your child, all the while you are praying for their salvation as well. We\u2019ll send you the prayer cards when you donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com or when you call 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d to donate.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us back tomorrow as we continue to talk about how we keep our kids from backsliding. Todd Friel will be with us. I hope you will be as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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We\u2019re going to talk about a subject\u2014in fact, I think this book we\u2019re talking about today\u2014if the subtitle comes with a money-back guarantee, I predict this is a <em>New York Times<\/em> best seller, right there; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, let\u2019s ask him!\u00a0 Todd Friel joins us on the broadcast. Are you guaranteeing our kids will not backslide?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You know, there\u2019s just a little star by\u2014a little caveat \/ <em>nota bene.<\/em> [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014disclaimer. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You may be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014disclaimer\u2014disclaimer\u2014disclaimer! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You know\u2014actually, gentlemen, let\u2019s start right there; because I am quite certain somebody has a prodigal child, and they are blaming themselves for it. I think it\u2019s important to remember you can\u2019t get your child saved\u2014you can\u2019t keep your child \/ you can\u2019t get him glorified\u2014so take yourself off of the hook that God does not have you on. God saves our kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Our job<\/em> is to be faithful parents. If you have a wandering child\u2014first of all, you are not responsible for their decisions. Second of all, please know that God has written about a billion prodigal stories; so don\u2019t write off your child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Todd is the host of a daily syndicated radio program and a TV\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>\u2014which is why I just kind of want to jump\u2014Oh, I\u2019m sorry! Go ahead.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No; that\u2019s okay! [Laughter] The TV program is called\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>You\u2019re not willing to say it; are you? [Laughter] You\u2019re embarrassed for me. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No; I\u2019m not embarrassed! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014straight from Romans 7.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just think\u2014I just think it\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>It\u2019s from Romans 7. It\u2019s not what a cat does. It\u2019s called, <em>Wretched<\/em>,as in \u201cWretched man that I am,\u201d\u2014also\u2014\u201c\u2026that saved a <em>wretch<\/em> like me.\u201d It\u2019s called, <em>Wretched<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The name of the radio program is?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>The same. We\u2019re not that varied \/ we\u2019re just not that clever\u2014same thing!\u2014<em>Wretched<\/em> and <em>Wretched<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> <em>Wretched<\/em> radio and <em>Wretched<\/em> TV. Todd has been married to his wife Susan since 1990. They have three children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s go back to when you became a follower of Jesus Christ. How did you come to faith in Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Well, after I\u2019d studied to be a pastor, I got saved. You see, they didn\u2019t ask, on the resume, if you were actually born again. I wasn\u2019t\u2014I was a false convert. I studied to be a pastor, but I wasn\u2019t even a <em>believer<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you grew up going to church.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>No, sir; I did not! I started getting <em>taken<\/em> to church in eighth grade. I had a <em>terrible<\/em> fear of hell, as a child. I know <em>nothing<\/em> about church, but I was <em>terrified<\/em> of death\u2014almost obsessively terrified about death. I used to pray, obsessively, to a god I did not know: \u201cPlease let me live forever,\u201d\u2014I mean, not like \u201c\u2026die and go to heaven,\u201d because I didn\u2019t know that\u2014I mean, line on earth, older than Methuselah, live forever\u2014that\u2019s what I wanted, because I was so afraid to die.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>So when I went to church and I heard \u201cIf you just believe in Jesus, you won\u2019t go to hell; you\u2019ll go to heaven,\u201d I was all in; but I didn\u2019t repent and put my trust in Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was kind of \u201cGet out of hell\u201d-free card; but I <em>never<\/em> turned from my sins, put my whole-hearted trust in Him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>\u2014that came much later in life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you were in enough with what was going on in church that you thought, \u201cI wanted to be a pastor.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; but, okay; again, you\u2019re going to see inside my wicked heart. It\u2019s because I wanted to be in church, but I wanted to be the guy in front. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You wanted people to look at you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So did you go to seminary? Is that where you found Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>No; no. It wasn\u2019t until after we got married. I didn\u2019t go into the pastoral ministry, which is a blessing to everybody. We\u2019ve got far too many people who aren\u2019t saved that are in pastoral ministry\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Ohhh! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>\u2014unfortunately. Well, I went to school with some of them. I know I would have been one of them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>I got saved later; God <em>graciously<\/em> opened up my eyes. I was a self-righteous, pompous\u2014I was quite a legalist. Theology was my bag; and if you didn\u2019t line up and have every box checked theologically, I thought I <em>you <\/em>were the hell-bound sinner not me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay; let\u2019s back up one step before you end up telling us how you did come to faith in Christ. How did you persuade Susan to go out on a date and then, ultimately,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with a pompous, self-righteous guy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>I met her in church; y\u2019all! How\u2019s my \u201cy\u2019all,\u201d by the way? I\u2019ve only been in the South 10 years\u2014how\u2019s it doin\u2019?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Uh, \u201cC\u201d minus. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Wow!\u2014like my educational career!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe met in a church. I was asked to write a youth drama for some big youth meeting that was going on. The pastor said, \u201cWell, I know this girl who could play this role.\u201d I\u2019m really\u2014I do not believe I\u2019m exaggerating. I was in a basement of a church in St. Paul, Minnesota; and I saw a pair of red pumps, connected to some ankles\u2014that had a white dress that had a big red belt on\u2014with an <em>amazing<\/em> explosion of blonde hair\u2014it was clearly the \u201880s. I immediately said, \u201cThat\u2019s my wife.\u201d We got married!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no, no, no! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Well, probably, not like that <em>second<\/em>. We got to know each other and stuff, but I <em>knew<\/em> that was going to be my wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So how long did you date before you asked her to marry you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>It was just four years. [Laughter] We had some ups and downs\u2014look, we didn\u2019t have mentors\u2014and this whole courtship\u2014we didn\u2019t have <em>you guys<\/em> to help us in the process. We made a complete hash of it. Nevertheless, God was kind; He gave me a much better woman than I deserved!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So how did you propose to her? You\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>One of the worst days of my life!\u2014you know, can I just tell you? Thanks for bringing up another painful subject. Perhaps you\u2019d like to give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice in it too. [Laughter] This is one of the regrets of my life. This demonstrates what an arrogant thing I was. Guys, I had a suit on to propose to my wife. We were on the dock on the Mississippi River. I didn\u2019t want to get my suit dirty, so I didn\u2019t kneel down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oooh, man!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>So, fast-forward 20 years. Now, I\u2019ve got a chance to do a make-good on the proposal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe go out to a special dinner. I bought her a ring to ask her if she\u2019d stay married to me for another 20 years. This is my chance now to get down on a knee and humble myself and ask her to stay married to me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut this is what happens after 20 years\u2014I start to push the table out; and she said: \u201cWhat\u2019s the matter? Is something wrong?\u201d \u201cNo;\u201d\u2014I said\u2014\u201ceverything is fine.\u201d I start to kneel down and she said: \u201cWhat are you doing down there?! It\u2019s filthy; get up!\u201d And at that moment, I pulled a hamstring. I\u2019m on my knee, going, \u201cAh; ah.\u201d [She says:] \u201cIt\u2019s filthy! I don\u2019t think they\u2019ve vacuumed in here!\u201d That was the romantic moment we shared, where I asked her to stay married to me. [Laughter] That\u2019s what happens after 20 years! It was gloriously romantic. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did Susan think she was marrying a Christian? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes. [Spoken with hesitation]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You thought she was marrying a Christian.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; but she would tell you she wasn\u2019t a Christian either. She was the church-going type. It wasn\u2019t until she took a Kay Arthur Precepts on Covenant\u2014and reading through the Book of Hebrews and studying it\u2014where she realized that Book is true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen she saw the imagery that the Temple was a picture of Jesus\u2014that He came and tabernacled among His people\u2014when she saw that the candlestick \/ that Jesus is the Light of the world\u2014that bread on the table \/ that He\u2019s the Bread of Life\u2014when He was the curtain that was torn so we could have access to the Father\u2014then she realized this Book is true; she got saved too. God was very kind to do it for both of us at about the same time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay; let\u2019s go back to your story\u2014of how you fell under the conviction of God that you needed Jesus Christ to be your Savior and that you weren\u2019t going to find your way to heaven based on your works.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes; yes. Started listening to guy on the radio called Chuck Swindoll. Have you heard of him? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis &amp;<\/strong> <strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>It started to make sense\u2014his <em>Insight for Living<\/em>. He takes the theology that I\u2019d been learning; but he brings it down to the road, and I see what he\u2019s doing there. We started listening; and I thought, \u201cWell, let\u2019s go and find a church like his.\u201d We looked up his denomination in\u2014[pause]\u2014a phone book\u2014[Laughter]\u2014remember those? We looked it up in the phone book\u2014went to the local church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife stayed home that morning, and I went. It was the kindness of God that led me to repentance\u2014there\u2019s no mistake about it! We should have a fear of the Lord\u2014we should be afraid of His wrath and His judgment; but ultimately, Romans 2\u2014we should see the One who is kind enough to <em>save<\/em> us from hell and want Him. We become tear-filled converts, not just fear-filled converts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe pastor\u2014lovely man\u2014at the end of his sermon said: \u201cI want everybody to close their eyes, for just a moment. I want to read something to you.\u201d It was something that has made the rounds of the internet, but it was basically Jesus writing a letter to you. It was Jesus saying\u2014and I\u2019m going to get <em>verklempt<\/em> [overcome with emotion] over this\u2014Jesus saying: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw you wake up this morning, and I was hoping that you would take a moment and stop and talk to Me; but you didn\u2019t, but that\u2019s okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll wait for you because I love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you walked out the door, I gave you a sunrise so that you would think of Me and perhaps talk to Me; but you didn\u2019t, but I love you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, he read through this entire\u2014and I realized, by the time he was done, what a sinful, wicked, ungrateful presumptuous man that I had been\u2014to never stop and thank God for my wife, and for fine things, for Him\u2014for His Son. I had been a rebel, from sunup to sundown, never thinking to thank Him for His good gifts, let alone for His Son. It broke me. I am not a pretty crier\u2014I sat there in a\u2014guys, snot, [making sobbing noises] crying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cYou\u2019re dismissed.\u201d [More sobbing noises] I just sat there, while everybody left\u2014just broken. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod did that for me for <em>weeks<\/em>\u2014to the point where I had to pull off the road because I couldn\u2019t see through the tears. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe convicted me of my sin and that\u2019s what was missing the first time around. The first time, I thought it was cool\u2014it was a \u201cGet out of hell\u201d pass. This time, I\u2019ve seen the sacrifice of the Father in sending His Son and how I had not lived in response to that. He crushed me, so there was a guilt that led me to Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Todd, you and I have that in common; because I had many years of active involvement. I was leading Young Life clubs, sharing the gospel with people as an unconverted person. Somebody took me to Romans 3 and said: \u201cThis is describing you: \u2018There\u2019s none righteous, no, not one. Nobody seeks after God.\u2019\u201d God brought me to the end of myself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you describe your story, I\u2019m thinking: \u201cHow many folks listening \/ how many folks going to church this Sunday\u2014how many folks, who think, \u2018It\u2019s all good,\u2019\u2014it\u2019s not good; because they haven\u2019t understood the reality of their sin \/ their need for a Savior. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ve just wanted the \u2018Get out of hell\u2019-free card. How do you help somebody like that, who is listening right now, understand there\u2019s a difference between what you think Christianity is and what it really is?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>This is going to sound like hellfire preaching. We used to do this a lot, because it is in the Bible; but it\u2019s should be <em>reasonable<\/em>. Too much hellfire preaching is: \u201cTurn or burn,\u201d \/ \u201cYou\u2019re a sinner; you\u2019re going to hell.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod gave us a tool to know what we are truly like\u2014a mirror called the Law of God. Jesus actually took that Old Testament Law and He <em>magnified<\/em> it in the Sermon on the Mount: \u201cYou have heard it said, \u2018Thou shall not commit adultery.\u2019 But I say, \u2018Look at a woman with lust, you\u2019ve committed adultery in your heart,\u2019\u201d because He knows the Psalm that says, \u201cWill He who made the eye, will He not also see? Will He who made the ear, not also hear?\u201d <em>Everything<\/em> I think is being recorded by God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt will be opened up and revealed, and every deed done in darkness will be brought out into the light. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA man or a woman does well to ask, \u201cHow will I do on that day?\u201d rather than waiting for my day in court\u2014when I will have no chance for appeal \/ when the sentence will be final\u2014when the gavel of justice is slammed down. If God says, \u201cGuilty,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s done! So we do well, today, to look in the mirror of God\u2019s Law and ask: \u201cHave I lusted?\u201d \u201cHave I lied?\u201d \u201cHave I stolen?\u201d \u201cDid I dishonor my parents?\u201d We have to be honest with ourselves and say, \u201cOf course, we have done all that!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cGuilty!\u201d\u2014yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>And when we understand that God is not going to be tricked by a clever lawyer\u2014He has seen the crimes; because the crimes have been committed, primarily, against Him\u2014He <em>knows<\/em> what the record books are because He\u2019s <em>witnessed<\/em> it. Because He\u2019s just and because He\u2019s good, we sometimes think, \u201cWell, if God is loving, He\u2019ll let me go!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, no; because God is loving, He can\u2019t let you go; because He loves justice and He loves fairness. Because of these attributes of love and justice, God <em>must<\/em> give us what we deserve. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome would argue: \u201cHell seems to be a little extreme\u2014eternal conscious torment\u2014that\u2019s awfully harsh!\u201d I understand that; but we need to remember that our sins, by their nature, aren\u2019t so spectacular. The problem is the One against whom we have <em>committed<\/em> the crime. For instance, if I lied to my son, I know what\u2019s going to happen to me\u2014nothing!\u2014he has no power. If I lie to my wife, I\u2019m going to spend the night on a couch. Lie to my boss\u2014I can be fired. Lie to the government\u2014you can go to jail. Same crime\u2014different penalty. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhy? It\u2019s the one against whom we\u2019ve committed the crime. We commit our crimes against the Sovereign of the universe! Our crimes are worthy of eternal, conscious torment. Until a man or woman is willing to be honest about that, and <em>tremble<\/em> before a just and Holy Law, they are not ready to be saved because God resists the proud but He gives grace to the <em>humble<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy plea, if you\u2019re hearing my voice, is: \u201cPlease be honest with yourself. Consider the things that you have done\u2014your lack of gratitude; how you treated your parents; how you haven\u2019t loved God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. Maybe you have looked at images you should not have looked at. Maybe you\u2019ve done things\u2014you don\u2019t have a skeleton in your closet\u2014it\u2019s a graveyard. When we realize that we are in big trouble on that day, then we\u2019re ready for the good news\u2014that God is just; but He\u2019s loving, and He sent His Son to die for sinners\u2014and I mean any sinner.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>To that point, if there is a boy or a girl \/ or mom or dad, listening to this broadcast, and go: \u201cThat\u2019s me! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m ready!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Explain what the faith surrender to the King of kings is to accept what God did for us, as lawbreakers, who have offended Him?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>Alright; let\u2019s just say: \u201cGentlemen, it\u2019s a little chilly where we are today.\u201d I say, \u201cFellas, let\u2019s just jump in my car and drive to Mexico. It\u2019s warmer there.\u201d We jump in. I take the steering wheel because I tell you: \u201cI\u2019ve been there and I know the way.\u201d We start driving. Hours go by, and you notice some signs\u2014the bank thermometer sign\u2014it\u2019s actually starting to get colder, not warmer. Instead of palm trees, you\u2019re seeing pine trees. All of a sudden, you see a sign that says, \u201cCanada 118 miles.\u201d I\u2019ve taken you in the wrong direction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s think this through, step by step: \u201cWhat do you want me to do?\u201d Number (1) After pointing out the signs, you want me to agree with you: \u201cYou\u2019re right; I\u2019m wrong.\u201d (2) But you don\u2019t simply want <em>agreement<\/em>; you want me to <em>stop<\/em>. (3) But you don\u2019t want me to just sit there, on the side of the road. I suspect you would like an apology: \u201cI\u2019m sorry. I\u2019ve sinned against you. Please forgive me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut there we sit, on the side of the road. Fourth, you\u2019d like me to turn around but not stay just pointed in the right direction. Fifth, you want me to start driving; and sixth, you don\u2019t want me to stop \u2018til I get there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what we expect\u2014so does God. That\u2019s called repentance. It\u2019s not about perfection; but it\u2019s about recognizing: \u201cI have sinned against the God who died for me. He\u2019s shown me the signs; I\u2019ve sinned against Him. I\u2019m sorry and I want to turn and go in a new direction, because I want the One who saved me\u2014that\u2019s repentance. It\u2019s connected to something called faith\u2014it\u2019s not a mere mental assent. It\u2019s as if you are flying in an airplane, and you discover that you were going to be crashing soon; but there\u2019s a parachute. You wouldn\u2019t just go, \u201cThat parachute could save me,\u201d\u2014you\u2019d put it on. You must put on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. Salvation is available to <em>anybody<\/em> who is listening to my voice right now if you will humble yourself, repent, and put your trust in Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is a pretty big decision. Does a guy just make it in a moment and say, \u201cOkay; I\u2019m in\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>No! If you read Luke 9:1-20\u2014it\u2019s a drubbing [sever thrashing]. Grace is free\u2014period! But when you recognize \/ when you esteem the sacrifice of the Father\u2014Jesus\u2019 call is to deny self \/ to die to self\u2014to start living for the One who died for you. It should really be a no-brainer. It should be because: \u201cI want that! I don\u2019t want the old life; I know what that brought\u2014it brought pain; it brought misery; it brought guilt; it brought shame. He\u2019ll cleanse it\u2014He\u2019ll clean me \/ He\u2019ll give me a reason for living\u2014He\u2019ll give me a hope for the future. That\u2019s the God I want.\u201d That should be pretty easy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> At that point, as you count the cost of repentance and make the turn, there may just be, in the pit of your stomach, two conflicting emotions\u2014first of all, feeling sick at your stomach, \u201cMan, this is going to cost me.\u201d You know what? It cost Christ; so you can accept what He\u2019s done and you can be declared, \u201cNot guilty.\u201d You can be declared, \u201cForgiven.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut secondly, there\u2019s going to be joy; because at that point, you are turning away from the Law and toward a Person. Christianity is a relationship with Almighty God. Bob quoted Romans, Chapter 3. That same passage got my attention too\u2014it was the Person of God\u2014Almighty God\u2014who chased me down, as a young man, and said: \u201cI want a relationship with you. I want to know you as you do life, and I want you to know Me because I am the Life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you experience is, not only the relief of being forgiven, but you\u2019ve got the purpose; you have the relationship; and you have the hope to know where you\u2019re headed as you continue down that road for the rest of your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When that conviction comes, you simply\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014yield!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you say to God: \u201cOkay; I surrender. I\u2019m in.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m in!\u201d It really is a surrender. And by the way, that surrender has to continue to occur on a daily basis\u2014not that you get born again every day\u2014but you surrender to the Lordship of Christ, moment by moment, saying to Him, \u201cNot my will, but Your will,\u201d\u2014and you agree to follow Him in doing whatever He has for you to do today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We started off talking about how parents keep their kids from backsliding, and some of our listeners might think we never really got there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But we may have; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But maybe we did get there, because you keep your kids from backsliding by having them understand the <em>real<\/em> gospel; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly the issue! Most kids, depending on which statistician you follow, 60-80 percent of our evangelical youth leave the home \/ leave youth group\u2014they run off to university and say, \u201cBye-bye,\u201d to their family faith\u201460-80 percent! The reason they backslide is\u2014frankly, is because they never slid forward in the first place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what you are addressing in the book you\u2019ve written, <em>Reset for Parents: How to Keep Your Kids from Backsliding, <\/em>a book we\u2019ve got copies of in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. I\u2019d encourage moms and dads to get a copy of this book\u2014read it through together. <em>Reset for Parents: How to Keep Your Kids from Backsliding<\/em>, by Todd Friel. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order, or call -800-FL-TODAY to get a copy of the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis theme that we are addressing is something that\u2019s right in the heart of a movie that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> is going to be releasing in theatres for two nights only, May 1<sup>st<\/sup> and May 3<sup>rd<\/sup>. It\u2019s a movie called <em>Like Arrows<\/em>. If our listeners haven\u2019t been to our website to see the trailer for the movie, I hope they will go. This is a movie about parents, who had faith as a component of their family, but didn\u2019t have it at the center \/ at the core of what they were doing, as parents. We see how it makes a difference when you shift your priorities, as a parent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, this is going to be in theaters for two nights only, May 1<sup>st<\/sup> and May 3<sup>rd<\/sup>. We\u2019re hoping all of our listeners will plan to join us one of those two nights and be part of the <em>Like Arrows<\/em> movie experience. Find out more at FamilyLifeToday.com; there\u2019s a list of theaters near you that are going to showing this film. If you want the best seats in the house, you buy your tickets now; they\u2019re on sale already. A lot of theaters now have reserved seating, so pick out your seats and join us May 1<sup>st<\/sup> or May 3<sup>rd<\/sup> for the <em>Like Arrows<\/em> movie premier at a theater near you. Find out more at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe <em>Like Arrows<\/em> movie is really the beginning point for a whole strategy on parenting that FamilyLife is launching in 2018. We are going to be releasing an eight-session video series in May called, <em>FamilyLife\u2019s<\/em> <em>Art of<\/em> <em>Parenting<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur hope\u2014our goal\/our desire\u2014is to see this content get into the hands and hearts of people, who aren\u2019t listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and aren\u2019t going to church, and would benefit from hearing about God\u2019s plan for marriage and hearing a clear presentation of the gospel in the midst of that. We are developing a strategy to help reach these families. We\u2019ve got some partners, who want to come alongside and work with us in outreach for this. We\u2019ve calculated it\u2019s going to take about $10 per family to be able to connect with these folks and get this content to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re asking <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners to join us in this endeavor. Our goal is to reach a million people over the next three years in three language groups: in English, in Spanish, and Mandarin. If you\u2019d like to help us reach families, who are not currently going to church, with the gospel and with God\u2019s design for parenting, you can donate today to FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a donation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you do, we will sent you, as a thank-you gift, a set of seven prayer cards; each of these cards has a different character quality, along with suggestions of how you can be praying for God to imprint these character qualities in the life of your child, all the while you are praying for their salvation as well. We\u2019ll send you the prayer cards when you donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com or when you call 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d to donate.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us back tomorrow as we continue to talk about how we keep our kids from backsliding. Todd Friel will be with us. I hope you will be as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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