{"id":300139,"date":"2018-02-07T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-02-07T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/keying-into-the-culture\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:41:19","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:41:19","slug":"keying-into-the-culture","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/keying-into-the-culture\/","title":{"rendered":"Keying into the Culture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: David Eaton, Melanie Mudge | Series: Parents, Teens and Culture | David Eaton, cofounder of Axis-a non-profit ministry that seeks to help the next generation have lifelong faith by resourcing parents and faith leaders-and Melanie Mudge, director of content and certification at Axis, tell listeners why Christian kids are leaving the faith. Eaton explains why parents must move away from behavior management and rule enforcement and focus on the truth that Jesus is life.Show Notes &#038; ResourcesAxis.org &#8211; Signup for The Culture Translator.  Want to better understand the world your student inhabits? The Culture Translator provides weekly insight into how pop culture, technology, and media are influencing your students while equipping you to start biblically based conversations.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Eaton and Melanie Mudge, tell listeners why Christian kids are leaving the faith. 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Which voice do you think is having the biggest impact in your teenager\u2019s life? Here\u2019s Melanie Mudge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>A lot of my friends walked away from God. I mean, I was in youth group all the time\u2014I walked away from God for a while. A huge part of it was that the gospel didn\u2019t connect to their everyday lives. It seemed like something they do on Sunday and on Wednesday, when they go to youth group; but it didn\u2019t seem to have any relevance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, February 7<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. Your teenagers are hearing a lot of different voices today. Which voices are they listening to most, and which ones are they believing? We\u2019re going to talk more about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. Are you familiar with\u2014this is an older group\u2014Death Cab for Cutie\u2014are you familiar with them?\u2014the music group? You\u2019re not familiar with\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m sorry! Bob, is this one of your continuing hobbies, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, to show my lack of literacy in culturally-significant music?\u2014is it music?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it belongs\u2014it is music; it is no longer culturally-significant. [Laughter] When my kids were teenagers, I used to drive them to school most days. Instead of listening to the radio, we listened to mix tapes on the way to school\u2014these were cassettes that their friends had made for them\u2014and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Let me just say how Bob abused his kids. I went to the only rock concert I think I\u2019ve ever been to, in terms of Christian music, because Bob said: \u201cYou have to go! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou have to go!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This was in the mid-\u201990s, and I took him to D.C. Talk and Audio Adrenaline\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Audio Adrenaline led off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014to try to expand his horizon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And he didn\u2019t tell me I needed to bring earmuffs and soundproof headphones. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t realize what a geezer you were, back in those days!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They were head-banging, for goodness\u2019 sake, Bob. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Of course, they were!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you were, too, in the aisle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, back to Death Cab for Cutie\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Full circle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We used to listen to these mix tapes, and they were full of emo music. You\u2019re familiar with emo music; right? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No! Hold it! David\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I was in an emo band in high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You were.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So you know what he\u2019s talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t wear skinny jeans, though.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Were you a Death Cab fan?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That was when I was like in college, though\u2014it took me awhile to get to that point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Melanie, you knew about it too?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Oh yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay; I\u2019m an antique! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But the point I\u2019m making in bringing all of this up is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; what is your point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014since my kids have gone on to become adults of their own, I\u2019m no longer listening to mix tapes \/ I no longer have a cassette deck in my car.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m glad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I would not know who\u2019s \u201chip\u201d today \/ I wouldn\u2019t know who the kids are listening to today if I didn\u2019t get my <em>Culture Translator<\/em> email every Friday, in my inbox, which keeps me up to date with what\u2019s going on with teenagers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And of course, our guests on the broadcast know what that is. David Eaton and Melanie Mudge join us on the broadcast. Melanie\/David, welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Thank you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Thanks for having us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Explain to our listeners what Bob gets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>He gets a <em>Culture Translator<\/em>, which Melanie\u2019s the editor of. It helps parents know what\u2019s going on in their student\u2019s life; and then, have conversations with them. It\u2019s a simple email that comes out every Friday. It has three things that went on in your student\u2019s life this past week, and how to talk about them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Such as?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Such as: \u201cDid you know that \u2018broccoli\u2019 means \u2018weed\u2019?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you know that?\u2014you knew that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Nice! Nice!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if a new Kanye record comes out, you\u2019re going to let parents know, \u201cKanye\u2019s back, and he has something to say\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Right; but it\u2019s not just, \u201cHere it is,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s: \u201cHere\u2019s how to have a thoughtful conversation about this. Here\u2019s how to look at what is the hidden goodness in this \/ what are the hidden lies in this; and really, how to disciple your student into thinking deeply about these things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have a team of 25 folks, who are thinking about this <em>all<\/em> the time\u2014really, with the idea of\u2014not \u201cHow do we help parents outsource their parenting?\u201d\u2014but really, \u201cHow do we help <em>resource<\/em> parents to disciple their kids?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and Melanie\u2014some parents hear about this and they go: \u201cI don\u2019t want my kids listening to Kanye anyway. I want them listening to Christian music and watching Christian movies. Why are you even encouraging kids to listen in this direction?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>It\u2019s not necessarily <em>encouraging<\/em> them so much as it\u2019s <em>acknowledging<\/em> that Christian music may not be that appealing to teens. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChristian music has its place, but a lot of teenagers want music that\u2019s artistically creative and that\u2019s pushing the\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ooh, I got the little\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; half of Nashville just turned off our broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Oh no!\u2014no. I actually think Christian music is <em>really<\/em> moving in a good direction; but like when I was a teenager, it was pretty much the same every time. It followed the same formula, and it wasn\u2019t the same as pop music that I was listening. The pop music was much catchier, and it really captured my attention. The Christian music was kind of like, \u201cI\u2019ll listen to this, because I\u2019m a good Christian.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and we have to be honest\u2014most of the kids at the youth group \/ most of the kids at the Christian school are swimming in contemporary culture. They\u2019re not in the Christian bubble\u2014they\u2019re in the world, and they\u2019re being influenced by that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>So, we\u2019ll speak at a Christian school. There will be this praise and worship thing\u2014the guy gets his guitar out at the beginning\u2014and ho-hum, students are barely singing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we\u2019ll come up; and we\u2019ll start speaking about like the marketplace of ideas and everything that we\u2019re swimming in\/around. We\u2019ll play a song, and we\u2019ll put the lyrics up there. I mean, you would think we were playing\u2014I mean, there was worship happening in the audience. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKids start singing \/ start interacting\u2014stand up and start dancing sometimes. It\u2019s really awesome; because at this point, you can just bring a hammer out and just be like, \u201cWe\u2019re going to just hit you with the truth\u201d; but instead, we say: \u201cHey! Isn\u2019t this <em>amazing<\/em> and really exciting music? But let\u2019s think about this idea right here. What is it saying about \u2018What does it mean to be human?\u2019 What is it saying about \u2018What does it mean to be honest?\u2019 What does it mean to be\u2014who God is, and what does it mean to worship?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019re helping parents connect the dots to know how to relate to their kids as they do swim in this cultural media experience that they\u2019re\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Well, we actually made a huge mistake. We started Axis ten years ago. I was just going\u2014and we were leading teams and going directly to high school students. Really, it\u2019s because I had a lot of my friends\u2014that I went to high school with and went to church with\u2014who were no longer following Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, on mission trips, you\u2019d see a picture\u2014here are my three buddies, Bibles in hand \/ preaching the gospel. Four years later, after college, they\u2019re agnostic; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cWhat\u2019s going on in my generation?\u201d We started traveling and speaking at schools, and it was <em>great<\/em>; but we realized, soon enough, that there is <em>no one<\/em> more influential in a student\u2019s life than their parents. So, early on, when we thought that Axis was the hero the next generation needed, we <em>were wrong<\/em>. We realized that <em>parents<\/em> are the hero the next generation needs. So, we help leverage that relationship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And back in 2007, you decided to do some research on why these kids were leaving the faith. You were seeing it happen back then. You were actually ahead of a lot of researchers at that point. What did you find in that research?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Well, I think we were ahead just because we were in that generation that was leaving. A lot of my friends walked away from God. I mean, I was in youth group all the time\u2014I walked away from God for a while. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we were ahead. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat we found in our research was that a huge part of it was that the gospel didn\u2019t connect to their everyday lives. It seemed like something they do on Sunday and on Wednesday, when they go to youth group; but it didn\u2019t seem to have any relevance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the biggest thing that we realized is\u2014there are a lot of other ideas out there that seem to promise life, and fulfillment, and flourishing; and they don\u2019t actually lead to that, but teens believe it anyways. Somehow, they weren\u2019t learning that the gospel\u2019s the <em>only<\/em> thing that leads to life and that it does have relevance for <em>every<\/em> situation and everything we do. Instead, they <em>felt<\/em> like: \u201cThis doesn\u2019t mean enough. This isn\u2019t big enough, and it\u2019s not fulfilling enough. I\u2019m going to go elsewhere.\u201d And that\u2019s why they were walking away.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019ve heard this talked about in these terms, and I\u2019d like you guys to either challenge or validate this; okay? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChristian Smith, the sociologist at Notre Dame\u2014when he looked at this subject, he came back and he said: \u201cWhat kids are hearing in a lot of evangelical churches is not a life-changing gospel. What they\u2019re hearing is moralistic\/therapeutic deism,\u201d\u2014you guys have heard that phrase. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019re hearing, \u201cThere\u2019s a God who loves you, and He wants you to have an abundant life,\u201d and \u201cIf you\u2019ll just do these things, abundant life will happen.\u201d\u00a0 These kids get to college and they go, \u201cThose things aren\u2019t giving me an abundant life here on campus; and in fact, it looks like this other set of values gets you a more abundant life. So, I\u2019m going over there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIs that what\u2019s happening?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s, like you said, I think it is moralistic\/therapeutic deism\u2014it\u2019s behavior management. Melanie was being interviewed one time; and they said, \u201cWhat\u2019s the crux of Axis?\u201d She paused; and then she said, \u201cJesus is <em>life<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, a lot of times, we focus on the truth and \u201cOkay; did our sixth-grader believe and become a Christian? Is he going to go to heaven?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, it just kind of leaves off there. We\u2019ve had sixth-graders say to us: \u201cLike what\u2019s left for me now? Should I just wait to die?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the gospel is missing an important element of the <em>mission<\/em>\u2014of where God invites us, after we\u2019re saved \/ invites us to join Him in the renewal of all things. That\u2019s a really interesting, creative mission. So, when all you hear is just that you\u2019re a bad person and Jesus died for you\u2014which are both true\u2014you might be missing the larger narrative, which says: \u201cGod made the world very good. It\u2019s broken; you\u2019re broken. Jesus saved you, and now He\u2019s inviting you back into mission.\u201d One of the best ways to say this is\u2014we have to make sure we\u2019re answering the questions that the next generation is actually asking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>In 19\u2014I believe it was 1985\u2014Barbara and I started teaching a sixth-grade Sunday school class. I started with 12 kids in my class. I taught it for 11 years. At the end, I had 75 kids in my class. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had parents wanting to get in the class, because what they saw their kids experiencing in our class was a connection\u2014the very thing you mentioned, Melanie\u2014a connection of the gospel to the real-life issues these kids are facing <em>now<\/em>, as 10-, 11-, 12-year-olds in the culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMost of them had heard and seen pornography. I mean, they\u2019ve had friends\u2014if not them\u2014dabbling in alcohol, drugs, etc. Most parents are absolutely <em>clueless<\/em> that their sweet 11- and 12-year-old\u2014who smiles, and gets dressed for church, and looks all nice and sweet and spiritual\u2014has experienced this world. It\u2019s like we have our heads in the sand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the time I finished teaching that class, I was convinced those kids had taught me far more, as a parent, than I had taught them; because they taught me this\u2014and it\u2019s found in Psalm 78\u2014and those who listen to this broadcast know I\u2019ve kind of been on a soapbox about this\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but Psalm 78 says this: \u201cHe established a testimony in Jacob and appointed a law in Israel which He commanded our fathers to teach to their children, that their generation might know them, the children yet unborn, and arise and tell them to their children.\u201d There are, at least, four generations mentioned there. What were they commanded to do?\u2014two things: teach the truth of the law; and share the experience of God as they passed on that truth through their own lives, as parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I think is happening today\u2014I think there is a divorce in most Christian families between real life and applying Jesus Christ, and the truth of the Bible and the gospel to their lives\u2014so their children not only hear it with their ears, but they <em>see it<\/em> modeled by their mom and dad. By the time they graduate from high school, they\u2019re going: \u201cI want what Mom and Dad have. I\u2019ve seen them go through some hard times. They went to the Book \/ they went to the God of the Book. They experienced\u2014they had a testimony of what God had done in their lives.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the great need today is for infectious Christianity to be embraced by moms and dads. Do you agree?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Absolutely, and I also think that grandmas and grandpas can help reinforce some of those things. When we speak with parents, what they say is: \u201cI\u2019m busy. I\u2019m tired. I\u2019m worn down.\u201d The beauty is that, if they can invite the grandparents into that relationship, they can help also\u2014like you said, that multiple-generational approach\u2014help support some of that long-term vision-casting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of our favorite things to see is when a mom or a dad\u2014or a grandma and grandpa\u2014can talk about the vision and imagination they have for their child with them, where they can say: \u201cLet me tell you my story,\u201d and \u201cLet me tell you my hopes and my dreams for you.\u201d If you\u2019re hearing this right now\u2014if you can tell your child your hopes and your dreams for them, you\u2019re crafting what their imagination in the future is\u2014you\u2019re helping them have hope. You\u2019re helping them, actually, feel powerful to hope for the goodness of the future.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m glad you gave the grandparents a nod, at that point; because last night, Barbara came in and said, \u201cHere are three birthday cards.\u201d Birthdays are one of the biggest loser experiences that Barbara and I have, having 23 grandkids. [Laughter] I mean, we need a computer program and a butler with all the cards we\u2019re to sign. But she finally got ahead of this one; and she gave it to three of our grandsons\u2014these cards\u2014and said: \u201cI\u2019ve signed them. Now, you sign them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI sit down\u2014and it\u2019s good to hear you say what you just said\u2014because that\u2019s what I did. I started speaking into three of my grandsons\u2019 lives about what I see in them\u2014actually, two grandsons and a granddaughter\u2014and I talked about what I saw in each of them, and what I hoped I would see in the future, and \u201cI have great dreams for you, that God\u2019s going to use you in a mighty way. I can\u2019t wait to cheer you on and see how God uses you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>My scalp is tingling right now. [Laughter] I mean, you want that level of anticipation and hope in them; and that\u2019s an <em>awesome<\/em> thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the world is speaking into their lives with the wrong stuff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s creating the anticipation of the wrong idols. We want to go back to God and experience of Him in our children\u2019s lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Melanie, I want to know about your detour. You said a couple years?\u2014you wandered off?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>It was probably a good six\/seven years. It started in high school, for sure; and it was\u2014I mean, I was in church five, six, seven days a week. I thought, \u201cOkay; this is it.\u201d And then, when I finally said, \u201cI need to walk away from this for a while,\u201d was when I said: \u201cWow! I feel like I\u2019m off the emotional roller-coaster. I feel like walking away from God made my life easier and better.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was because the Christianity I <em>had<\/em> been practicing was that moralistic\/therapeutic deism or legalism\u2014or just doing all the right things. I didn\u2019t understand that bigger picture of life, and flourishing, and abundance that I had been called to. So, for however many years, I was pursuing that abundance and that life elsewhere. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, I tried pretty much everything; and I landed on relationships. I looked to a boy to fulfil me; and by the end, he was like trying to get away from me because he was <em>everything<\/em>; and I was just gripping on tight. That got me to rock-bottom, and that\u2019s when\u2014I don\u2019t know if I heard God or He just spoke to my heart\u2014but He was like, \u201cIt\u2019s time for you to try My way.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cI\u2019ve tried Your way, and it\u2019s terrible! It\u2019s an emotional roller-coaster.\u201d He was, \u201cNo.; you didn\u2019t try My way.\u201d That\u2019s when I said, \u201cOkay; I guess I\u2019ll try this.\u201d It\u2019s been a <em>totally<\/em> different experience since then.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you declare\u2014I mean, when you said you walked away\u2014like did you say, \u201cOkay; I\u2019m done with this,\u201d or did you just kind of drift and fade, and live in two worlds for awhile and then fade out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>There was living in two worlds for a while; and then, when I made that conscious decision to walk away, I think I told a couple people, \u201cI\u2019m not doing this anymore.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014but not your mom and dad. You didn\u2019t tell them; did you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>No; oh no. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did you see your mom and dad with an infectious walk with Jesus Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>I saw my mom that way, very much so. She understood it. But she was raised by a generation that you don\u2019t talk about things. I think she brought that into her parenting as well. She didn\u2019t tell me her story of why her Christianity meant so much to her and why she was so devoted to it. It was kind of just assumed that I should know that. I don\u2019t think she meant it that way\u2014it just kind of happened. But there were lots of Christians, who I did see, who didn\u2019t have that infectious love of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what I\u2019d want a parent to hear\u2014if you haven\u2019t shared with your child in the past week\u2014what God is doing, or is teaching, or is taking you through \/ where you may be even failing as He gives you a test\u2014and it\u2019s a test of faith\u2014and you\u2019re not doing a good job walking by faith\u2014you\u2019re worrying \/ everything\u2019s wrapped around the axle, and you don\u2019t have much of a faith right now\u2014some of your greatest lessons are going to come out of what look like your greatest failures. Pass that on to your kids! The enemy wants parents and grandparents to be silent about their faith, thinking: \u201cIt\u2019s too personal. We shouldn\u2019t talk about that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>\u2014or talking about failures as a bad thing too. You\u2019re saying, \u201cTell your kids if you\u2019ve messed up,\u201d or say, \u201cI\u2019m not doing a good job walking in faith\u201d; but we tend to go into it, thinking we shouldn\u2019t tell our kids that we\u2019ve messed up; because then, that means we\u2019re not practicing Christianity correctly, which isn\u2019t true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, that was my thought\u2014my thought was, \u201cI have to model for my kids what the right way looks like.\u201d Modeling what the right way looks like, I felt like, was keep hidden all the mistakes and failures. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, the gospel is all about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014redemption!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014failures.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if I\u2019m going to model what the right way looks like, part of that model needs to be: \u201cThis is where mom and dad mess up,\u201d \u201cThis is where I\u2019ve messed up. This is what repentance looks like for me,\u201d and \u201cThis is what confession looks like,\u201d and \u201cHere\u2019s what restoration looks like.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s one of my favorite things I\u2019ve learned from you, Bob, in just some of our small conversations, here and there\u2014is that you have to model repentance. If you don\u2019t model repentance in your family, then how are your kids going to know how to do that, and how are they going to be invited into the <em>goodness<\/em> of God and His love for them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s one of the big themes that is being addressed in <em>The<\/em> <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> video series that we\u2019re putting together\u2014and in what you\u2019re [Dennis] writing in the book that is coming out\u2014because this is a key area for parents to embrace and to live out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we are to model Jesus Christ, but we\u2019re not going to model it perfectly. When we do fail\u2014rather than sweep it under the rug\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014bring it out in the open. I mean, one of my favorite stories about my son, Benjamin, was about a tree I cut down \/ that he witnessed his father cutting down, except it wasn\u2019t on my property\u2014it was on the city property. We\u2019re out in the woods, where nobody in the city would ever know about it; but God worked me over and took me to the woodshed to finally confess that to the city manager. He said, \u201cOh, there\u2019s not that much of an exact property line out there anyway; it\u2019s okay.\u201d But my son saw me deal with a mistake that I made. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the thing\u2014if you think about this, as a parent, what are your children going to face for the rest of their lives? \u2014their humanity\u2014their own failures \/ their own times when they don\u2019t match up to the Bible\u2014and they\u2019re going to be acutely aware of that. They have to be equipped to know how to repent, which is doing a 180\u2014stop going the way you want to go; turn the direction God wants you to go\u2014\u2014admit it \/ name the sin and turn it over to God\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and get back on the track of becoming God\u2019s man or God\u2019s woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here\u2019s where I think moms and dads just need some help. We have resources at FamilyLife that we\u2019ve put together over the years that are designed to provide just the kind of help that moms and dads need. We have the <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\/ <em>Passport2Identity<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup> resources for parents of pre-teens and parents of early teens to go through with their kids to get them ready for the pressures and the challenges they\u2019re going to face during these years. We\u2019re working, right now, on <em>The<\/em> <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> series we talked about that will be coming out in May; and of course, Dennis and Barbara will have a book that will be out not long after the launch of <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> that will provide help for parents in this regard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, you guys have <em>The<\/em> <em>Culture<\/em> <em>Translator<\/em> that I get every week and that I think parents of teens need to be sure they\u2019re subscribed to. It\u2019s a free resource that comes via email every week. You can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014you\u2019ll find the link where you can sign up for <em>The<\/em> <em>Culture Translator<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ll also find links for these resources we\u2019ve talked about today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and start getting better engaged with the world in which your teenage sons and daughters are living today. Again, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com. You can call if you have any questions about the resources available; or if you\u2019d like to order by phone, 1-800-FL-TODAY is our number\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, our goal, here, at FamilyLife is to provide moms and dads \/ husbands and wives with practical biblical help and hope in the middle of the challenges we face related to marriage and family. In fact, we have an event coming up this spring for couples who are in blended families. We want to provide help and hope for you guys as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe event\u2019s going to be called <em>Blended and Blessed<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a one-day event; it\u2019s going to be hosted in Charlotte, North Carolina. You can attend live if you live in the area, or you can attend via livestream. It\u2019s going to be available\u2014streamed on the web. I know churches and small groups are getting together for the day to go through this material. Ron Deal\u2019s giving leadership to all of this. It\u2019s one of the ways that we\u2019re seeking to reach out, as a ministry, to point people in a biblical direction when it comes to the issues we face in marriage and family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe appreciate those of you who partner with us in this endeavor. In fact, every time you donate to FamilyLife\u00ae, you\u2019re making it possible for more husbands and wives and moms and dads to understand God\u2019s design for marriage and family. That\u2019s our goal \/ that\u2019s our mission, and you help make that happen every time you donate. If you\u2019re a long-time listener to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and you\u2019ve never made a donation, would you join the work that you\u2019re doing today and be part of this mission? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; you can call to donate at 1-800-FL-TODAY; or you can mail a donation to us at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk about technology and your teen, specifically about smartphones and access to the web on the go\u2014a lot to talk about there. I hope you can tune in and be part of the conversation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2018 FamilyLife. 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Eaton explains why parents must focus on the truth that Jesus is life.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2018-02-07.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What your kids are hearing\u2014at church, what they\u2019re hearing in the hallways of their school, or on Spotify<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, or on the web\u2014all of those are very different things. Which voice do you think is having the biggest impact in your teenager\u2019s life? Here\u2019s Melanie Mudge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>A lot of my friends walked away from God. I mean, I was in youth group all the time\u2014I walked away from God for a while. A huge part of it was that the gospel didn\u2019t connect to their everyday lives. It seemed like something they do on Sunday and on Wednesday, when they go to youth group; but it didn\u2019t seem to have any relevance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, February 7<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. Your teenagers are hearing a lot of different voices today. Which voices are they listening to most, and which ones are they believing? We\u2019re going to talk more about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. Are you familiar with\u2014this is an older group\u2014Death Cab for Cutie\u2014are you familiar with them?\u2014the music group? You\u2019re not familiar with\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m sorry! Bob, is this one of your continuing hobbies, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, to show my lack of literacy in culturally-significant music?\u2014is it music?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it belongs\u2014it is music; it is no longer culturally-significant. [Laughter] When my kids were teenagers, I used to drive them to school most days. Instead of listening to the radio, we listened to mix tapes on the way to school\u2014these were cassettes that their friends had made for them\u2014and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Let me just say how Bob abused his kids. I went to the only rock concert I think I\u2019ve ever been to, in terms of Christian music, because Bob said: \u201cYou have to go! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou have to go!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This was in the mid-\u201990s, and I took him to D.C. Talk and Audio Adrenaline\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Audio Adrenaline led off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014to try to expand his horizon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And he didn\u2019t tell me I needed to bring earmuffs and soundproof headphones. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t realize what a geezer you were, back in those days!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They were head-banging, for goodness\u2019 sake, Bob. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Of course, they were!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you were, too, in the aisle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, back to Death Cab for Cutie\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Full circle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We used to listen to these mix tapes, and they were full of emo music. You\u2019re familiar with emo music; right? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No! Hold it! David\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I was in an emo band in high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You were.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So you know what he\u2019s talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t wear skinny jeans, though.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Were you a Death Cab fan?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That was when I was like in college, though\u2014it took me awhile to get to that point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Melanie, you knew about it too?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Oh yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay; I\u2019m an antique! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But the point I\u2019m making in bringing all of this up is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; what is your point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014since my kids have gone on to become adults of their own, I\u2019m no longer listening to mix tapes \/ I no longer have a cassette deck in my car.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m glad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I would not know who\u2019s \u201chip\u201d today \/ I wouldn\u2019t know who the kids are listening to today if I didn\u2019t get my <em>Culture Translator<\/em> email every Friday, in my inbox, which keeps me up to date with what\u2019s going on with teenagers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And of course, our guests on the broadcast know what that is. David Eaton and Melanie Mudge join us on the broadcast. Melanie\/David, welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Thank you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Thanks for having us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Explain to our listeners what Bob gets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>He gets a <em>Culture Translator<\/em>, which Melanie\u2019s the editor of. It helps parents know what\u2019s going on in their student\u2019s life; and then, have conversations with them. It\u2019s a simple email that comes out every Friday. It has three things that went on in your student\u2019s life this past week, and how to talk about them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Such as?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Such as: \u201cDid you know that \u2018broccoli\u2019 means \u2018weed\u2019?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you know that?\u2014you knew that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Nice! Nice!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if a new Kanye record comes out, you\u2019re going to let parents know, \u201cKanye\u2019s back, and he has something to say\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Right; but it\u2019s not just, \u201cHere it is,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s: \u201cHere\u2019s how to have a thoughtful conversation about this. Here\u2019s how to look at what is the hidden goodness in this \/ what are the hidden lies in this; and really, how to disciple your student into thinking deeply about these things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have a team of 25 folks, who are thinking about this <em>all<\/em> the time\u2014really, with the idea of\u2014not \u201cHow do we help parents outsource their parenting?\u201d\u2014but really, \u201cHow do we help <em>resource<\/em> parents to disciple their kids?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and Melanie\u2014some parents hear about this and they go: \u201cI don\u2019t want my kids listening to Kanye anyway. I want them listening to Christian music and watching Christian movies. Why are you even encouraging kids to listen in this direction?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>It\u2019s not necessarily <em>encouraging<\/em> them so much as it\u2019s <em>acknowledging<\/em> that Christian music may not be that appealing to teens. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChristian music has its place, but a lot of teenagers want music that\u2019s artistically creative and that\u2019s pushing the\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ooh, I got the little\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; half of Nashville just turned off our broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Oh no!\u2014no. I actually think Christian music is <em>really<\/em> moving in a good direction; but like when I was a teenager, it was pretty much the same every time. It followed the same formula, and it wasn\u2019t the same as pop music that I was listening. The pop music was much catchier, and it really captured my attention. The Christian music was kind of like, \u201cI\u2019ll listen to this, because I\u2019m a good Christian.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and we have to be honest\u2014most of the kids at the youth group \/ most of the kids at the Christian school are swimming in contemporary culture. They\u2019re not in the Christian bubble\u2014they\u2019re in the world, and they\u2019re being influenced by that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>So, we\u2019ll speak at a Christian school. There will be this praise and worship thing\u2014the guy gets his guitar out at the beginning\u2014and ho-hum, students are barely singing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we\u2019ll come up; and we\u2019ll start speaking about like the marketplace of ideas and everything that we\u2019re swimming in\/around. We\u2019ll play a song, and we\u2019ll put the lyrics up there. I mean, you would think we were playing\u2014I mean, there was worship happening in the audience. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKids start singing \/ start interacting\u2014stand up and start dancing sometimes. It\u2019s really awesome; because at this point, you can just bring a hammer out and just be like, \u201cWe\u2019re going to just hit you with the truth\u201d; but instead, we say: \u201cHey! Isn\u2019t this <em>amazing<\/em> and really exciting music? But let\u2019s think about this idea right here. What is it saying about \u2018What does it mean to be human?\u2019 What is it saying about \u2018What does it mean to be honest?\u2019 What does it mean to be\u2014who God is, and what does it mean to worship?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019re helping parents connect the dots to know how to relate to their kids as they do swim in this cultural media experience that they\u2019re\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Well, we actually made a huge mistake. We started Axis ten years ago. I was just going\u2014and we were leading teams and going directly to high school students. Really, it\u2019s because I had a lot of my friends\u2014that I went to high school with and went to church with\u2014who were no longer following Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, on mission trips, you\u2019d see a picture\u2014here are my three buddies, Bibles in hand \/ preaching the gospel. Four years later, after college, they\u2019re agnostic; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cWhat\u2019s going on in my generation?\u201d We started traveling and speaking at schools, and it was <em>great<\/em>; but we realized, soon enough, that there is <em>no one<\/em> more influential in a student\u2019s life than their parents. So, early on, when we thought that Axis was the hero the next generation needed, we <em>were wrong<\/em>. We realized that <em>parents<\/em> are the hero the next generation needs. So, we help leverage that relationship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And back in 2007, you decided to do some research on why these kids were leaving the faith. You were seeing it happen back then. You were actually ahead of a lot of researchers at that point. What did you find in that research?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>Well, I think we were ahead just because we were in that generation that was leaving. A lot of my friends walked away from God. I mean, I was in youth group all the time\u2014I walked away from God for a while. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we were ahead. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat we found in our research was that a huge part of it was that the gospel didn\u2019t connect to their everyday lives. It seemed like something they do on Sunday and on Wednesday, when they go to youth group; but it didn\u2019t seem to have any relevance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the biggest thing that we realized is\u2014there are a lot of other ideas out there that seem to promise life, and fulfillment, and flourishing; and they don\u2019t actually lead to that, but teens believe it anyways. Somehow, they weren\u2019t learning that the gospel\u2019s the <em>only<\/em> thing that leads to life and that it does have relevance for <em>every<\/em> situation and everything we do. Instead, they <em>felt<\/em> like: \u201cThis doesn\u2019t mean enough. This isn\u2019t big enough, and it\u2019s not fulfilling enough. I\u2019m going to go elsewhere.\u201d And that\u2019s why they were walking away.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019ve heard this talked about in these terms, and I\u2019d like you guys to either challenge or validate this; okay? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChristian Smith, the sociologist at Notre Dame\u2014when he looked at this subject, he came back and he said: \u201cWhat kids are hearing in a lot of evangelical churches is not a life-changing gospel. What they\u2019re hearing is moralistic\/therapeutic deism,\u201d\u2014you guys have heard that phrase. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019re hearing, \u201cThere\u2019s a God who loves you, and He wants you to have an abundant life,\u201d and \u201cIf you\u2019ll just do these things, abundant life will happen.\u201d\u00a0 These kids get to college and they go, \u201cThose things aren\u2019t giving me an abundant life here on campus; and in fact, it looks like this other set of values gets you a more abundant life. So, I\u2019m going over there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIs that what\u2019s happening?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s, like you said, I think it is moralistic\/therapeutic deism\u2014it\u2019s behavior management. Melanie was being interviewed one time; and they said, \u201cWhat\u2019s the crux of Axis?\u201d She paused; and then she said, \u201cJesus is <em>life<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, a lot of times, we focus on the truth and \u201cOkay; did our sixth-grader believe and become a Christian? Is he going to go to heaven?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, it just kind of leaves off there. We\u2019ve had sixth-graders say to us: \u201cLike what\u2019s left for me now? Should I just wait to die?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the gospel is missing an important element of the <em>mission<\/em>\u2014of where God invites us, after we\u2019re saved \/ invites us to join Him in the renewal of all things. That\u2019s a really interesting, creative mission. So, when all you hear is just that you\u2019re a bad person and Jesus died for you\u2014which are both true\u2014you might be missing the larger narrative, which says: \u201cGod made the world very good. It\u2019s broken; you\u2019re broken. Jesus saved you, and now He\u2019s inviting you back into mission.\u201d One of the best ways to say this is\u2014we have to make sure we\u2019re answering the questions that the next generation is actually asking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>In 19\u2014I believe it was 1985\u2014Barbara and I started teaching a sixth-grade Sunday school class. I started with 12 kids in my class. I taught it for 11 years. At the end, I had 75 kids in my class. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had parents wanting to get in the class, because what they saw their kids experiencing in our class was a connection\u2014the very thing you mentioned, Melanie\u2014a connection of the gospel to the real-life issues these kids are facing <em>now<\/em>, as 10-, 11-, 12-year-olds in the culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMost of them had heard and seen pornography. I mean, they\u2019ve had friends\u2014if not them\u2014dabbling in alcohol, drugs, etc. Most parents are absolutely <em>clueless<\/em> that their sweet 11- and 12-year-old\u2014who smiles, and gets dressed for church, and looks all nice and sweet and spiritual\u2014has experienced this world. It\u2019s like we have our heads in the sand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the time I finished teaching that class, I was convinced those kids had taught me far more, as a parent, than I had taught them; because they taught me this\u2014and it\u2019s found in Psalm 78\u2014and those who listen to this broadcast know I\u2019ve kind of been on a soapbox about this\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but Psalm 78 says this: \u201cHe established a testimony in Jacob and appointed a law in Israel which He commanded our fathers to teach to their children, that their generation might know them, the children yet unborn, and arise and tell them to their children.\u201d There are, at least, four generations mentioned there. What were they commanded to do?\u2014two things: teach the truth of the law; and share the experience of God as they passed on that truth through their own lives, as parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I think is happening today\u2014I think there is a divorce in most Christian families between real life and applying Jesus Christ, and the truth of the Bible and the gospel to their lives\u2014so their children not only hear it with their ears, but they <em>see it<\/em> modeled by their mom and dad. By the time they graduate from high school, they\u2019re going: \u201cI want what Mom and Dad have. I\u2019ve seen them go through some hard times. They went to the Book \/ they went to the God of the Book. They experienced\u2014they had a testimony of what God had done in their lives.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the great need today is for infectious Christianity to be embraced by moms and dads. Do you agree?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Absolutely, and I also think that grandmas and grandpas can help reinforce some of those things. When we speak with parents, what they say is: \u201cI\u2019m busy. I\u2019m tired. I\u2019m worn down.\u201d The beauty is that, if they can invite the grandparents into that relationship, they can help also\u2014like you said, that multiple-generational approach\u2014help support some of that long-term vision-casting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of our favorite things to see is when a mom or a dad\u2014or a grandma and grandpa\u2014can talk about the vision and imagination they have for their child with them, where they can say: \u201cLet me tell you my story,\u201d and \u201cLet me tell you my hopes and my dreams for you.\u201d If you\u2019re hearing this right now\u2014if you can tell your child your hopes and your dreams for them, you\u2019re crafting what their imagination in the future is\u2014you\u2019re helping them have hope. You\u2019re helping them, actually, feel powerful to hope for the goodness of the future.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m glad you gave the grandparents a nod, at that point; because last night, Barbara came in and said, \u201cHere are three birthday cards.\u201d Birthdays are one of the biggest loser experiences that Barbara and I have, having 23 grandkids. [Laughter] I mean, we need a computer program and a butler with all the cards we\u2019re to sign. But she finally got ahead of this one; and she gave it to three of our grandsons\u2014these cards\u2014and said: \u201cI\u2019ve signed them. Now, you sign them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI sit down\u2014and it\u2019s good to hear you say what you just said\u2014because that\u2019s what I did. I started speaking into three of my grandsons\u2019 lives about what I see in them\u2014actually, two grandsons and a granddaughter\u2014and I talked about what I saw in each of them, and what I hoped I would see in the future, and \u201cI have great dreams for you, that God\u2019s going to use you in a mighty way. I can\u2019t wait to cheer you on and see how God uses you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>My scalp is tingling right now. [Laughter] I mean, you want that level of anticipation and hope in them; and that\u2019s an <em>awesome<\/em> thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the world is speaking into their lives with the wrong stuff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s creating the anticipation of the wrong idols. We want to go back to God and experience of Him in our children\u2019s lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Melanie, I want to know about your detour. You said a couple years?\u2014you wandered off?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>It was probably a good six\/seven years. It started in high school, for sure; and it was\u2014I mean, I was in church five, six, seven days a week. I thought, \u201cOkay; this is it.\u201d And then, when I finally said, \u201cI need to walk away from this for a while,\u201d was when I said: \u201cWow! I feel like I\u2019m off the emotional roller-coaster. I feel like walking away from God made my life easier and better.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was because the Christianity I <em>had<\/em> been practicing was that moralistic\/therapeutic deism or legalism\u2014or just doing all the right things. I didn\u2019t understand that bigger picture of life, and flourishing, and abundance that I had been called to. So, for however many years, I was pursuing that abundance and that life elsewhere. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, I tried pretty much everything; and I landed on relationships. I looked to a boy to fulfil me; and by the end, he was like trying to get away from me because he was <em>everything<\/em>; and I was just gripping on tight. That got me to rock-bottom, and that\u2019s when\u2014I don\u2019t know if I heard God or He just spoke to my heart\u2014but He was like, \u201cIt\u2019s time for you to try My way.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cI\u2019ve tried Your way, and it\u2019s terrible! It\u2019s an emotional roller-coaster.\u201d He was, \u201cNo.; you didn\u2019t try My way.\u201d That\u2019s when I said, \u201cOkay; I guess I\u2019ll try this.\u201d It\u2019s been a <em>totally<\/em> different experience since then.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you declare\u2014I mean, when you said you walked away\u2014like did you say, \u201cOkay; I\u2019m done with this,\u201d or did you just kind of drift and fade, and live in two worlds for awhile and then fade out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>There was living in two worlds for a while; and then, when I made that conscious decision to walk away, I think I told a couple people, \u201cI\u2019m not doing this anymore.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014but not your mom and dad. You didn\u2019t tell them; did you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>No; oh no. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did you see your mom and dad with an infectious walk with Jesus Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>I saw my mom that way, very much so. She understood it. But she was raised by a generation that you don\u2019t talk about things. I think she brought that into her parenting as well. She didn\u2019t tell me her story of why her Christianity meant so much to her and why she was so devoted to it. It was kind of just assumed that I should know that. I don\u2019t think she meant it that way\u2014it just kind of happened. But there were lots of Christians, who I did see, who didn\u2019t have that infectious love of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what I\u2019d want a parent to hear\u2014if you haven\u2019t shared with your child in the past week\u2014what God is doing, or is teaching, or is taking you through \/ where you may be even failing as He gives you a test\u2014and it\u2019s a test of faith\u2014and you\u2019re not doing a good job walking by faith\u2014you\u2019re worrying \/ everything\u2019s wrapped around the axle, and you don\u2019t have much of a faith right now\u2014some of your greatest lessons are going to come out of what look like your greatest failures. Pass that on to your kids! The enemy wants parents and grandparents to be silent about their faith, thinking: \u201cIt\u2019s too personal. We shouldn\u2019t talk about that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melanie: <\/strong>\u2014or talking about failures as a bad thing too. You\u2019re saying, \u201cTell your kids if you\u2019ve messed up,\u201d or say, \u201cI\u2019m not doing a good job walking in faith\u201d; but we tend to go into it, thinking we shouldn\u2019t tell our kids that we\u2019ve messed up; because then, that means we\u2019re not practicing Christianity correctly, which isn\u2019t true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, that was my thought\u2014my thought was, \u201cI have to model for my kids what the right way looks like.\u201d Modeling what the right way looks like, I felt like, was keep hidden all the mistakes and failures. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, the gospel is all about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014redemption!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014failures.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if I\u2019m going to model what the right way looks like, part of that model needs to be: \u201cThis is where mom and dad mess up,\u201d \u201cThis is where I\u2019ve messed up. This is what repentance looks like for me,\u201d and \u201cThis is what confession looks like,\u201d and \u201cHere\u2019s what restoration looks like.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s one of my favorite things I\u2019ve learned from you, Bob, in just some of our small conversations, here and there\u2014is that you have to model repentance. If you don\u2019t model repentance in your family, then how are your kids going to know how to do that, and how are they going to be invited into the <em>goodness<\/em> of God and His love for them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s one of the big themes that is being addressed in <em>The<\/em> <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> video series that we\u2019re putting together\u2014and in what you\u2019re [Dennis] writing in the book that is coming out\u2014because this is a key area for parents to embrace and to live out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we are to model Jesus Christ, but we\u2019re not going to model it perfectly. When we do fail\u2014rather than sweep it under the rug\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014bring it out in the open. I mean, one of my favorite stories about my son, Benjamin, was about a tree I cut down \/ that he witnessed his father cutting down, except it wasn\u2019t on my property\u2014it was on the city property. We\u2019re out in the woods, where nobody in the city would ever know about it; but God worked me over and took me to the woodshed to finally confess that to the city manager. He said, \u201cOh, there\u2019s not that much of an exact property line out there anyway; it\u2019s okay.\u201d But my son saw me deal with a mistake that I made. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the thing\u2014if you think about this, as a parent, what are your children going to face for the rest of their lives? \u2014their humanity\u2014their own failures \/ their own times when they don\u2019t match up to the Bible\u2014and they\u2019re going to be acutely aware of that. They have to be equipped to know how to repent, which is doing a 180\u2014stop going the way you want to go; turn the direction God wants you to go\u2014\u2014admit it \/ name the sin and turn it over to God\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and get back on the track of becoming God\u2019s man or God\u2019s woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here\u2019s where I think moms and dads just need some help. We have resources at FamilyLife that we\u2019ve put together over the years that are designed to provide just the kind of help that moms and dads need. We have the <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\/ <em>Passport2Identity<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup> resources for parents of pre-teens and parents of early teens to go through with their kids to get them ready for the pressures and the challenges they\u2019re going to face during these years. We\u2019re working, right now, on <em>The<\/em> <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> series we talked about that will be coming out in May; and of course, Dennis and Barbara will have a book that will be out not long after the launch of <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> that will provide help for parents in this regard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, you guys have <em>The<\/em> <em>Culture<\/em> <em>Translator<\/em> that I get every week and that I think parents of teens need to be sure they\u2019re subscribed to. It\u2019s a free resource that comes via email every week. You can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014you\u2019ll find the link where you can sign up for <em>The<\/em> <em>Culture Translator<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ll also find links for these resources we\u2019ve talked about today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and start getting better engaged with the world in which your teenage sons and daughters are living today. Again, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com. You can call if you have any questions about the resources available; or if you\u2019d like to order by phone, 1-800-FL-TODAY is our number\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, our goal, here, at FamilyLife is to provide moms and dads \/ husbands and wives with practical biblical help and hope in the middle of the challenges we face related to marriage and family. In fact, we have an event coming up this spring for couples who are in blended families. We want to provide help and hope for you guys as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe event\u2019s going to be called <em>Blended and Blessed<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a one-day event; it\u2019s going to be hosted in Charlotte, North Carolina. You can attend live if you live in the area, or you can attend via livestream. It\u2019s going to be available\u2014streamed on the web. I know churches and small groups are getting together for the day to go through this material. Ron Deal\u2019s giving leadership to all of this. It\u2019s one of the ways that we\u2019re seeking to reach out, as a ministry, to point people in a biblical direction when it comes to the issues we face in marriage and family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe appreciate those of you who partner with us in this endeavor. In fact, every time you donate to FamilyLife\u00ae, you\u2019re making it possible for more husbands and wives and moms and dads to understand God\u2019s design for marriage and family. That\u2019s our goal \/ that\u2019s our mission, and you help make that happen every time you donate. 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