{"id":300107,"date":"2018-01-08T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-01-08T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/seeing-with-eyes-of-faith\/"},"modified":"2024-10-07T22:41:18","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T02:41:18","slug":"seeing-with-eyes-of-faith","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/seeing-with-eyes-of-faith\/","title":{"rendered":"Seeing With Eyes of Faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Lacey Buchanan | Series: Through the Eyes of Hope | Author Lacey Buchanan, a wife and mother of two, talks about the birth of her first son, Christian, who was born with severe facial deformities. 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There\u2019s a cleft lip and palate.\u201d She brings the doctor in, you know, and he\u2019s trying to explain it to us. They said cleft lip and palate, but then they added: \u201cWell, there\u2019s something different about this. We don\u2019t really know what\u2019s going on.\u201d I think that was the most <em>terrifying<\/em> part of it all\u2014is to hear, \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, January 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. How does a mom calm her own heart when she hears news like that in a doctor\u2019s office? We\u2019ll meet Lacey Buchanan today and hear her story. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re going to get a chance to introduce our listeners to a pretty remarkable mom today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Indeed. Lacey Buchanan joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today, <\/em>all the way from middle Tennessee. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014from a town that is best-known for what? Do you want to tell them? Tell them what the town she\u2019s from is best known for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, let\u2019s let her! So, what\u2019s your town best known for?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> The only thing my little town is known for is the Short Mountain Moonshine. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There you go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just wanted her to say that! [Laughter] We\u2019re not peddling, here, on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>[Laughter]<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLacey, we\u2019d like to welcome you to the broadcast. You\u2019re a mom of two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Your husband\u2019s name is Chris.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you guys have a childhood relationship that goes all the way back to your teen years. You guys have now been married for how long?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> We\u2019ve been married for nine; together for fifteen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She has written a book called <em>Through the Eyes of Hope. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to start out kind of at the core of the message here. The term \u201cHappy Birthday\u201d usually has all kinds of cheerful meanings to it. For you and your husband, it has a little different meaning; doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It does; yes. The day that our son was born, we were excited and anticipating his birth, just like any parents would\u2014our first child. At the same time, we were very anxious and nervous for his arrival; because we didn\u2019t know a lot of things. We didn\u2019t know if he was going to live \/ we didn\u2019t know if he was going to be okay if he did live\u2014we didn\u2019t know what we were facing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tParenthood is a very hard journey anyway. So adding extra challenges on top of it\u2014we were young\u2014I was 23 when I gave birth to him. It was scary!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you did know, heading into the delivery room, that you were facing some unusual circumstances. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me go all the way back to you guys finding out that you were expecting, because that happened a little ahead of schedule; at least, in your schedule; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes; for sure. I received my acceptance letter to law school; and then, within the same week, received a positive pregnancy test. Everybody said, \u201cOh, you\u2019re not going to law school now.\u201d I am kind of stubborn and I think, \u201cWell, yes, I am!\u201d Because I was young and na\u00efve\u2014right? \u2014I thought, \u201cI can do this!\u201d And I did, but it\u2019s not the way I would have planned it, for sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you ended up getting your law degree, so you\u2019re an attorney today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I did; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But, in the meantime, that pregnancy was filled with surprises. What was the first one?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> The very first surprise, just right after we found out we were pregnant\u2014we found out, early on, that we might miscarry. We were pretty devastated, really.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what was the indication that you might miscarry?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> My hormone levels to sustain a pregnancy were dropping rather than rising. Obviously, I didn\u2019t; because I wouldn\u2019t be sitting here today telling this story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, you got past that initial hurdle\u2014that initial scare.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But there\u2019s some anxiety that goes along with that, I\u2019m sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m sure that was a challenging season\u2014the pregnancy for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It was; yes. It was really scary; and everything after that was, sort of, very normal. We started to let our guard down\u2014we thought: \u201cEverything\u2019s fine now. Everything\u2019s going to be okay. This is very normal; this is very typical.\u201d Then, we found out later on that it wasn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How long into the pregnancy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Eighteen weeks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what did you learn?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> We learned that our child had a fetal anomaly. Now, what that entailed for the child\u2014the doctors couldn\u2019t tell us. All that they could say was, \u201cSomething\u2019s not right.\u201d That was probably the most terrifying thing; because, as a mom, I thought: \u201cIf I could just find out what\u2019s going on, that gives me a little bit of control. Maybe there\u2019s something I can do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, that was a false sense of control; but it felt very out of control, because it was all of these: \u201cWhat ifs?\u201d \u201cWe just don\u2019t know,\u201d \u201cIt could be this, and it could be that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo there was really no way to prepare, and it felt very out-of-control.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are you an optimist?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I am!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, when you hear \u201cfetal anomaly,\u201d do you think, \u201cIt will be okay\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> If you asked me <em>then<\/em>, and you asked me now, I think I would have different answers. Now, when I hear \u201cfetal anomaly,\u201d I think my response is: \u201cOh, tell me about it! Let\u2019s figure out how we can work through this.\u201d I want to give other people hope, because I\u2019ve been there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Then<\/em>, at the time\u2014and it being my child\u2014it was very devastating, because nobody wants to hear that there\u2019s something wrong with your child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I was very young, and I didn\u2019t <em>know<\/em> exactly what even a fetal anomaly was; you know. It was all a learning curve and a learning process. Although we kept hope\u2014the optimist in me kept hope that everything was going to work out and everything was going to be okay\u2014it was still much more terrifying to me then than I think it would be now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did your mind go to worst-case scenarios?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It did, but I never stay there long. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you did have a moment, just while watching TV one night\u2014<em>Sixty <\/em>Minutes\u2014where you felt like God perhaps warned you or perhaps enlarged your heart just a bit\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to receive this kind of news.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes; yes. Before we ever found out there was anything wrong with the child, I was watching\u2014well, I wasn\u2019t watching \/ I really don\u2019t watchTV\u2014I use it for background noise. I had it on, and it was a story of a father who pushed his disabled son in marathons so that his son could experience things and see all of these beautiful sceneries. It was just one thing he could do to give his son some experiences and just sort of make him feel <em>alive<\/em>. I watched that, and with all the pregnancy hormones, you know, I just sobbed at this show. I thought: \u201cOh, that\u2019s so inspiring! That\u2019s so amazing! The lengths that a parent would go to for their child\u2014just the exhaustion he must feel and what he pushes himself to for his son.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI sat down after I watched that show and just wrote a quick little letter to the baby in my womb. I still have that little letter tucked inside of his baby book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe gist of it said, you know: \u201cI don\u2019t know what the future holds for us; but if you had a disability \/ if you had anything wrong with you, that wouldn\u2019t change anything about my love for you, because you are my child and I am your mother. I will always love you.\u201d Again, that was before we ever knew anything was wrong. We had <em>no<\/em> indication that our little boy was going to have a disability.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you had a number of phone calls, messages, and interactions with medical technicians that really began to move you even to a deeper level of concern. Wasn\u2019t there an encounter with someone who was performing some tests on you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes. I was lying there, doing an ultrasound. We had many, many ultrasounds\u2014so we\u2019re getting this ultrasound. The tech just sort of panics, and jumps up, and she\u2019s: \u201cWait, wait, wait! I\u2019ve got to go get the doctor!\u201d I am panicking. Then she kind of peeks her head back in the door; and she says, \u201cEverything\u2019s okay!\u201d and she runs out again. I am like, \u201cYeah, right!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo she runs and she gets the doctor, and she comes back in. She\u2019s showing the doctor this scan. Of course, I can\u2019t tell anything about what\u2019s going on. I can tell the baby\u2019s heart is beating; so I\u2019m like, \u201cOkay; well, he\u2019s okay.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe sees what she calls an \u201camniotic sheet\u201d\u2014and that\u2019s where the placenta breaks down in a little, small spot. One end of this sheet is connected to the placenta on one side, and the other end is connected to the placenta on the other side. It sort of makes a sheet \/ it\u2019s just a band\u2014it\u2019s not dangerous. But we didn\u2019t know, at first, that it was a sheet; because if it\u2019s attached at both sides, it\u2019s fine. If it\u2019s attached to the placenta on one end, but loose on the other, it can be very dangerous to the baby; because it can attach <em>to <\/em>the baby. Wherever it attaches to the baby, it cuts off blood flow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThankfully, it was just the amniotic sheet. The doctor figured that out\u2014ruled out any sort of danger. We were sort of: \u201cWhew!\u201d\u2014you know. Again, sort of thought we were off the hook.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014until the next episode, which occurred when?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I don\u2019t remember exactly when in the timeline\u2014because, again, we had <em>so many <\/em>ultrasounds\u2014but eventually, we were asked to come back in for an ultrasound. This time, we <em>knew<\/em> that they had seen something; but they didn\u2019t tell us what over the phone. They wouldn\u2019t say anything over the phone except: \u201cWe need you to come back in. We\u2019re concerned.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, panic mode sets in for us\u2014right?\u2014at this point. We\u2019re going in for the ultrasound and, almost immediately, the tech puts the wand on my stomach and she says: \u201cOh, yes! There\u2019s a cleft lip and palate.\u201d We\u2019re like: \u201cOn the baby?\u201d\u2014you know\u2014\u201cWhat?\u201d She\u2019s like, \u201cYes.\u201d And she\u2019s kind of trying to stay\u2014you know, downplay it a little bit for us and stay calm\u2014because we\u2019re kind of panicking here. She brings the doctor in, you know; and he\u2019s trying to explain it to us. We were just devastated; you know? We kept getting by, narrowly \/ getting by\u2014you know: \u201cEverything\u2019s okay. Here\u2019s a panic moment, but everything\u2019s okay.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, finally, we hear this devastating news that everything is <em>not <\/em>okay: \u201cThere is something wrong with your child.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey said cleft lip and palate; but then they added: \u201cWell, there\u2019s something different about this. We don\u2019t really know what\u2019s going on.\u201d Well: \u201cWhat does that mean?\u201d They are like, \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d I think that was the most <em>terrifying<\/em> part of it all\u2014is to hear, \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Sometimes not knowing is far more difficult <em>than<\/em> knowing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It is for me anyway; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. I mean, the ambiguity of all the uncertainty\u2014especially if you\u2019ve been hit with one thing after another\u2014to create fear in the heart of a young possible mom. I just can\u2019t\u2014I can\u2019t even imagine that!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And to hear: \u201cfetal anomaly\u201d; then \u201ccleft palate\u201d and \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d Did you have any medical people suggest termination? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> You know, we never did. I\u2019m kind of surprised by that, because you hear it happen so often today with things much less severe than my son\u2019s; but nobody ever suggested it to us. I think a lot of that had to do with some of the doctors that we had who were very\u2014they knew where we stood. Obviously, they knew that we were passionately in love with our child and that it wasn\u2019t going to happen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAlso, it was one of those things, too, I think\u2014like they didn\u2019t really know what was going to happen. I don\u2019t know if maybe\u2014and this is just my own speculation\u2014maybe they were afraid to suggest that when there wasn\u2019t something obviously\u2014I don\u2019t know, contract me to say: \u201cWell, there\u2019s something wrong; so let\u2019s abort. We don\u2019t know what it is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cbut let\u2019s\u2026\u201d\u2014you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and a cleft palate is not a small thing; but it is something that can be treated.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Cleft palate is totally repairable; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. So that\u2019s not something that you would recommend termination for\u2014I wouldn\u2019t think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Not typically.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you say the doctors knew where you stood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You knew where you stood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Was there ever even a moment?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> There was <em>so not <\/em>a moment for us that, after Christian was born, and somebody suggested that that should have been the course we took, it blew my mind! Our thoughts were: \u201cPlease let this child be okay. What can I do to make this child be okay?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Take us to the day of delivery.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because the diagnosis was unknown\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014until Christian was born; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> \u2014the full diagnosis. They knew cleft lip and palate, but something was just off and different; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe day of his birth, we had, I would say, between 20 and 30 people scrubbed into our room. It was absurd the amount of people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did that take the joy [out] of the birth?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> No; it didn\u2019t. There was still joy. I remember walking into the hospital that morning. We had to be there really early; you know? The excitement of getting to have my child and hold my child was still\u2014I would call that overwhelming compared to the fear. There was fear. I mean, I would be silly to say there wasn\u2019t. There was a lot of fear, and there was a lot of anxiety about what was going to happen; but overall, you know, I was thinking: \u201cI\u2019m going to get to hold my baby today. I\u2019m going to get to see him. I\u2019m going to get to be his mother today.\u201d So that was the overwhelming sense. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was thankful for all of those people in the room, because we didn\u2019t know what was going to happen. They were preparing for every scenario\u2014that kind of made me feel better.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, when you gave birth, how long before you held Christian?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It was about eight hours, I believe. I was very medicated. They give you lots of medication after a C-section. They wouldn\u2019t let me get up out of the bed until like all of the spinal had worn off and, you know, I could feel my feet again, and that kind of stuff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat took <em>hours<\/em>. His NICU was one-third of a mile from my room.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> So getting there, right after I had a C-section, was no easy task.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what about Chris, your husband? Did he have a chance to see him before you did?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> The only time Chris saw him was after he was born, and they cut the umbilical cord. They knew he was breathing. They took him over to his little incubator to do his APGAR test and all of that, just like they would any child. Chris got to go see him then, while they were still finishing up on <em>me<\/em>. Then, after that, Chris stayed with me until I was able to go; because he wasn\u2019t exactly stable just yet, they said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> So they wouldn\u2019t really let him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what did Chris tell you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Well, I\u2019m still lying there, you know, and Christian\u2019s screaming, which is beautiful for us to hear. Chris is sitting by my head.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI send him over to check on Christian, like, \u201cGo make sure he\u2019s okay,\u201d\u2014because, of course, I\u2019m helpless\u2014you know, they\u2019re sewing me up. I\u2019m just like: \u201cHurry up! I want to see my baby. Hurry up!\u201d All of a sudden, I started hemorrhaging; and all of these doctors around me started yelling. I\u2019m getting nervous about what\u2019s going on with me. I call Chris back over and I\u2019m like: \u201cChris, what\u2019s going on? Am I okay?\u201d He\u2019s kind of checking and looking for me; and, you know, we\u2019re trying to figure it out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the middle of all that, I\u2019m like: \u201cChris, did you see Christian? How\u2019s he doing? Is he okay? What\u2019s going on with him?\u201d I said, \u201cHis birth defect\u2019s not as bad as they thought; right? I mean, I got to see just a quick glance of his face after they delivered him, and it\u2019s not that bad.\u201d He was sort of just somber. He looks at me and he says, \u201cLacey, it is worse.\u201d I didn\u2019t say anything after that\u2014I didn\u2019t know what to say. Of course, you know, I\u2019m being pulled in five or six different directions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> You know, he kind of has a tear running down his face. I\u2019m just thinking: \u201cWhat is he talking about? I didn\u2019t see that.\u201d That\u2019s really the extent of our exchange about it for the few hours after [his birth].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So when did you know what was wrong?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> So the first time I got to see Christian after he was born, they had wrapped his eyes and his head with gauze and bandages and stuff\u2014so the first time I saw him, he had all of that on. I didn\u2019t really get to see his whole face for several days. So, finally, when he was about four days old, they had to do a surgery to put a feeding tube into his stomach; and so they had to take all of the bandages off. It had to be sterile\u2014a sterile environment\u2014to go into the operating room. That\u2019s the first time that I really saw him without all of his bandages. That was when I really got to see the extent of his birth defect and realize it was much worse than the doctors had expected.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So we can\u2019t show our listeners a picture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They can see it on the cover of your book. How do you describe what Christian\u2019s condition is?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> If you think of a cleft lip and palate, the children have a place from their mouth to their nose that\u2019s sort of missing skin and bone and things like that. So Christian has that, except it\u2019s in a different place on his face. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHis cleft ran from the corners of his mouth\u2014both sides \/ it was bilateral\u2014up into his eyes. His eyes were also clefted. It just left the conjunctival tissue, sort of like the inside of our eyelids. So that\u2019s what you see when you see Christian\u2019s eyes\u2014is just that sort of mucus membrane conjunctival tissue. And then, of course, he doesn\u2019t have the cleft on either side of his nose anymore, going up into his eyes; because he\u2019s had surgery to repair that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> But the thing that people notice now is his eyes. Basically, like the non-medical way to say it is that he doesn\u2019t have eyes. It\u2019s not that they\u2019re there and they don\u2019t function\u2014he\u2019s one of the few people who were born without them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fifty people in the world?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It is fifty people in the world that have his cleft condition that clefted his eyes. There are more people who are born without eyes\u2014or with small eyes is actually a more common condition\u2014but having the cleft on the face that clefts the eyes is a much more rare condition\u2014fifty or sixty documented cases.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So when you saw his face\u2014this is the baby boy you\u2019ve been longing to touch and hold and cuddle your face next to\u2014what were your thoughts?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> My immediate thought was for Christian\u2019s sake: \u201cWhat does this mean for him?\u2014as far as\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> \u201cIs he blind?\u201d I mean, it was sort of apparent that he was blind, but it was one of those things that I just didn\u2019t want to admit it in the moment\u2014so: \u201cIs he blind? and \u201cIf he\u2019s blind, what does that mean? What do we do about this?\u201d\u2014you know\u2014\u201cHow do we get him well?\u201d That was always my concern: \u201cHow do I protect him?\u201d I mean, just laying eyes on him for the first time, it was just instant\u2014you know, I already loved him before he was born and then, just even more so, getting to just see him for the first time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You know, one of the things\u2014as we\u2019ve heard stories through the years of people walking down very difficult paths\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014one of the things that\u2019s become clear to us is that the time to become spiritually prepared for what is ahead is not in the moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The only reason you could face what you faced when you faced it is because you had a walk of faith\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014that had been built into you from childhood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes; absolutely. I had been going to church pretty much my whole life. My husband and I met at church\u2014at a church when I was 15. We were going to that church still when Christian was born. We had the same pastor\u2014the pastor who married us was still our pastor. He taught me so much about the character of God that I feel like he was a <em>huge<\/em> foundation-builder for me that, when that time came, all of the things that he had said and all of the things I had learned from him\u2014you know, they were coming back\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and all the Scriptures that I had memorized. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s not to say I didn\u2019t struggle at times. It wasn\u2019t like it was easy for me to just say: \u201cOh, yes. God\u2019s got this!\u201d It was difficult; but without that foundation that I had ahead of time, I don\u2019t think I ever would have gotten to the place I am now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I say quite frequently\u2014it seems like increasingly\u2014the most important thing about you, as an individual, is what you think about God \/ what I think about God. And then, how do we interpret life\u2019s circumstances against who we know and what we know about God to be true?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Psalm 20 says, \u201cMay the Lord answer you in the day of trouble.\u201d One of the most repeated phrases in the psalms is, \u201cGod is our refuge and our help.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> If you don\u2019t think of God as being a loving God, in those moments when you\u2019re a mom looking into the face of a baby boy, [whom] you\u2019re now grappling with his being blind and you\u2019re wondering, \u201cHow\u2019s this going to roll out over a lifetime?\u201d You\u2019ve got to have a place to take your fear\u2014to take your worries \/ to take your concerns\u2014and cast them on Him, because He does care for you; and He does have a plan. He is a good God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> He is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He is a good God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn these situations\u2014just in reading your story and reflecting on your life, you\u2019ve been an inspiration\u2014your love for your son\u2014you and Chris\u2014to a lot of people. Just like that guy on <em>Sixty Minutes<\/em> was an inspiration to you, as you watched TV that evening, your faith working its way out in, certainly, less-than-perfect circumstances, gives hope to a lot of people who are facing all kinds of circumstances.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I\u2019m thinking, as we\u2019re talking here, about the passage in Romans, Chapter 5, where Paul says that, \u201cWe rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance; endurance produces character; and character produces hope.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking about your book, <em>Through the Eyes of Hope<\/em>, and how God had to take you along that journey \/ along that path for you to view the future with hope. I love the subtitle of your book: <em>Love More, Worry Less, and See God in the Midst of Your Adversity. <\/em>You\u2019ve lived that. I\u2019d encourage our listeners\u2014if you\u2019d like to get a copy of Lacey Buchanan\u2019s book, <em>Through the Eyes of Hope, <\/em>it\u2019s available in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you can call to order\u20141-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, one of the things we had the opportunity to do a few months ago was be in a number of cities around the country, meeting with <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>radio listeners. We were doing some pre-screenings of the movie that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> is going to be releasing this spring called <em>Like Arrows<\/em>, and we invited listeners to come and join us. Afterwards, I remember just how encouraging it was to hear from listeners about how God has used the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in their lives. In fact, I remember talking to a mother of four children who said the half-hour that we spend together every day is a lifeline for her as she is trying to make sure that her marriage and her family are properly calibrated around what really matters in life. That\u2019s our goal, here, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we want to provide daily, practical biblical help and hope for marriages and for families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, there\u2019s a cost associated with us doing this. Producing and syndicating this program, through the variety of channels through which it\u2019s available\u2014that\u2019s expensive; and yet, it\u2019s made possible because some of you, who are listeners, join us as monthly Legacy Partners. Others of you will donate from time to time. We just want you to know we\u2019re grateful for the partnership that we have in helping to reach marriages and families with help and hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re a regular listener, we\u2019d like to invite you to join the team that makes this possible in your community\u2014for your neighbors \/ your friends\u2014for others who <em>need<\/em> the practical biblical wisdom that\u2019s provided on this program. If you\u2019d like to find out more about becoming a Legacy Partner, or if you\u2019d like to make a one-time donation, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. There\u2019s a link there about Legacy Partners, or you can donate online. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also call to donate\u20141-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you\u2019ll be back with us again tomorrow. Lacey Buchanan\u2019s going to be here again, and we\u2019re going to hear about the strain that her marriage experienced because of the challenge of raising a severely-disabled son. That comes up tomorrow. I hope you can be with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2018 FamilyLife. 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Buchanan shares how the faith of her and her husband has helped them through the difficulties.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2018-01-08.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When she was pregnant with her first child, Lacey Buchanan experienced an ultrasound procedure that no expectant mother wants to experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I was lying there doing an ultrasound, and the tech puts the wand on my stomach and she says: \u201cOh, yes! There\u2019s a cleft lip and palate.\u201d She brings the doctor in, you know, and he\u2019s trying to explain it to us. They said cleft lip and palate, but then they added: \u201cWell, there\u2019s something different about this. We don\u2019t really know what\u2019s going on.\u201d I think that was the most <em>terrifying<\/em> part of it all\u2014is to hear, \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, January 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. How does a mom calm her own heart when she hears news like that in a doctor\u2019s office? We\u2019ll meet Lacey Buchanan today and hear her story. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re going to get a chance to introduce our listeners to a pretty remarkable mom today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Indeed. Lacey Buchanan joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today, <\/em>all the way from middle Tennessee. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014from a town that is best-known for what? Do you want to tell them? Tell them what the town she\u2019s from is best known for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, let\u2019s let her! So, what\u2019s your town best known for?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> The only thing my little town is known for is the Short Mountain Moonshine. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There you go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just wanted her to say that! [Laughter] We\u2019re not peddling, here, on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>[Laughter]<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLacey, we\u2019d like to welcome you to the broadcast. You\u2019re a mom of two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Your husband\u2019s name is Chris.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you guys have a childhood relationship that goes all the way back to your teen years. You guys have now been married for how long?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> We\u2019ve been married for nine; together for fifteen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She has written a book called <em>Through the Eyes of Hope. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to start out kind of at the core of the message here. The term \u201cHappy Birthday\u201d usually has all kinds of cheerful meanings to it. For you and your husband, it has a little different meaning; doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It does; yes. The day that our son was born, we were excited and anticipating his birth, just like any parents would\u2014our first child. At the same time, we were very anxious and nervous for his arrival; because we didn\u2019t know a lot of things. We didn\u2019t know if he was going to live \/ we didn\u2019t know if he was going to be okay if he did live\u2014we didn\u2019t know what we were facing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tParenthood is a very hard journey anyway. So adding extra challenges on top of it\u2014we were young\u2014I was 23 when I gave birth to him. It was scary!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you did know, heading into the delivery room, that you were facing some unusual circumstances. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me go all the way back to you guys finding out that you were expecting, because that happened a little ahead of schedule; at least, in your schedule; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes; for sure. I received my acceptance letter to law school; and then, within the same week, received a positive pregnancy test. Everybody said, \u201cOh, you\u2019re not going to law school now.\u201d I am kind of stubborn and I think, \u201cWell, yes, I am!\u201d Because I was young and na\u00efve\u2014right? \u2014I thought, \u201cI can do this!\u201d And I did, but it\u2019s not the way I would have planned it, for sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you ended up getting your law degree, so you\u2019re an attorney today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I did; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But, in the meantime, that pregnancy was filled with surprises. What was the first one?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> The very first surprise, just right after we found out we were pregnant\u2014we found out, early on, that we might miscarry. We were pretty devastated, really.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what was the indication that you might miscarry?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> My hormone levels to sustain a pregnancy were dropping rather than rising. Obviously, I didn\u2019t; because I wouldn\u2019t be sitting here today telling this story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, you got past that initial hurdle\u2014that initial scare.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But there\u2019s some anxiety that goes along with that, I\u2019m sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m sure that was a challenging season\u2014the pregnancy for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It was; yes. It was really scary; and everything after that was, sort of, very normal. We started to let our guard down\u2014we thought: \u201cEverything\u2019s fine now. Everything\u2019s going to be okay. This is very normal; this is very typical.\u201d Then, we found out later on that it wasn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How long into the pregnancy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Eighteen weeks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what did you learn?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> We learned that our child had a fetal anomaly. Now, what that entailed for the child\u2014the doctors couldn\u2019t tell us. All that they could say was, \u201cSomething\u2019s not right.\u201d That was probably the most terrifying thing; because, as a mom, I thought: \u201cIf I could just find out what\u2019s going on, that gives me a little bit of control. Maybe there\u2019s something I can do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, that was a false sense of control; but it felt very out of control, because it was all of these: \u201cWhat ifs?\u201d \u201cWe just don\u2019t know,\u201d \u201cIt could be this, and it could be that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo there was really no way to prepare, and it felt very out-of-control.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are you an optimist?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I am!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, when you hear \u201cfetal anomaly,\u201d do you think, \u201cIt will be okay\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> If you asked me <em>then<\/em>, and you asked me now, I think I would have different answers. Now, when I hear \u201cfetal anomaly,\u201d I think my response is: \u201cOh, tell me about it! Let\u2019s figure out how we can work through this.\u201d I want to give other people hope, because I\u2019ve been there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Then<\/em>, at the time\u2014and it being my child\u2014it was very devastating, because nobody wants to hear that there\u2019s something wrong with your child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I was very young, and I didn\u2019t <em>know<\/em> exactly what even a fetal anomaly was; you know. It was all a learning curve and a learning process. Although we kept hope\u2014the optimist in me kept hope that everything was going to work out and everything was going to be okay\u2014it was still much more terrifying to me then than I think it would be now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did your mind go to worst-case scenarios?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It did, but I never stay there long. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you did have a moment, just while watching TV one night\u2014<em>Sixty <\/em>Minutes\u2014where you felt like God perhaps warned you or perhaps enlarged your heart just a bit\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to receive this kind of news.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes; yes. Before we ever found out there was anything wrong with the child, I was watching\u2014well, I wasn\u2019t watching \/ I really don\u2019t watchTV\u2014I use it for background noise. I had it on, and it was a story of a father who pushed his disabled son in marathons so that his son could experience things and see all of these beautiful sceneries. It was just one thing he could do to give his son some experiences and just sort of make him feel <em>alive<\/em>. I watched that, and with all the pregnancy hormones, you know, I just sobbed at this show. I thought: \u201cOh, that\u2019s so inspiring! That\u2019s so amazing! The lengths that a parent would go to for their child\u2014just the exhaustion he must feel and what he pushes himself to for his son.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI sat down after I watched that show and just wrote a quick little letter to the baby in my womb. I still have that little letter tucked inside of his baby book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe gist of it said, you know: \u201cI don\u2019t know what the future holds for us; but if you had a disability \/ if you had anything wrong with you, that wouldn\u2019t change anything about my love for you, because you are my child and I am your mother. I will always love you.\u201d Again, that was before we ever knew anything was wrong. We had <em>no<\/em> indication that our little boy was going to have a disability.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you had a number of phone calls, messages, and interactions with medical technicians that really began to move you even to a deeper level of concern. Wasn\u2019t there an encounter with someone who was performing some tests on you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes. I was lying there, doing an ultrasound. We had many, many ultrasounds\u2014so we\u2019re getting this ultrasound. The tech just sort of panics, and jumps up, and she\u2019s: \u201cWait, wait, wait! I\u2019ve got to go get the doctor!\u201d I am panicking. Then she kind of peeks her head back in the door; and she says, \u201cEverything\u2019s okay!\u201d and she runs out again. I am like, \u201cYeah, right!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo she runs and she gets the doctor, and she comes back in. She\u2019s showing the doctor this scan. Of course, I can\u2019t tell anything about what\u2019s going on. I can tell the baby\u2019s heart is beating; so I\u2019m like, \u201cOkay; well, he\u2019s okay.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe sees what she calls an \u201camniotic sheet\u201d\u2014and that\u2019s where the placenta breaks down in a little, small spot. One end of this sheet is connected to the placenta on one side, and the other end is connected to the placenta on the other side. It sort of makes a sheet \/ it\u2019s just a band\u2014it\u2019s not dangerous. But we didn\u2019t know, at first, that it was a sheet; because if it\u2019s attached at both sides, it\u2019s fine. If it\u2019s attached to the placenta on one end, but loose on the other, it can be very dangerous to the baby; because it can attach <em>to <\/em>the baby. Wherever it attaches to the baby, it cuts off blood flow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThankfully, it was just the amniotic sheet. The doctor figured that out\u2014ruled out any sort of danger. We were sort of: \u201cWhew!\u201d\u2014you know. Again, sort of thought we were off the hook.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014until the next episode, which occurred when?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> I don\u2019t remember exactly when in the timeline\u2014because, again, we had <em>so many <\/em>ultrasounds\u2014but eventually, we were asked to come back in for an ultrasound. This time, we <em>knew<\/em> that they had seen something; but they didn\u2019t tell us what over the phone. They wouldn\u2019t say anything over the phone except: \u201cWe need you to come back in. We\u2019re concerned.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, panic mode sets in for us\u2014right?\u2014at this point. We\u2019re going in for the ultrasound and, almost immediately, the tech puts the wand on my stomach and she says: \u201cOh, yes! There\u2019s a cleft lip and palate.\u201d We\u2019re like: \u201cOn the baby?\u201d\u2014you know\u2014\u201cWhat?\u201d She\u2019s like, \u201cYes.\u201d And she\u2019s kind of trying to stay\u2014you know, downplay it a little bit for us and stay calm\u2014because we\u2019re kind of panicking here. She brings the doctor in, you know; and he\u2019s trying to explain it to us. We were just devastated; you know? We kept getting by, narrowly \/ getting by\u2014you know: \u201cEverything\u2019s okay. Here\u2019s a panic moment, but everything\u2019s okay.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, finally, we hear this devastating news that everything is <em>not <\/em>okay: \u201cThere is something wrong with your child.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey said cleft lip and palate; but then they added: \u201cWell, there\u2019s something different about this. We don\u2019t really know what\u2019s going on.\u201d Well: \u201cWhat does that mean?\u201d They are like, \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d I think that was the most <em>terrifying<\/em> part of it all\u2014is to hear, \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Sometimes not knowing is far more difficult <em>than<\/em> knowing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It is for me anyway; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. I mean, the ambiguity of all the uncertainty\u2014especially if you\u2019ve been hit with one thing after another\u2014to create fear in the heart of a young possible mom. I just can\u2019t\u2014I can\u2019t even imagine that!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And to hear: \u201cfetal anomaly\u201d; then \u201ccleft palate\u201d and \u201cWe don\u2019t know.\u201d Did you have any medical people suggest termination? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> You know, we never did. I\u2019m kind of surprised by that, because you hear it happen so often today with things much less severe than my son\u2019s; but nobody ever suggested it to us. I think a lot of that had to do with some of the doctors that we had who were very\u2014they knew where we stood. Obviously, they knew that we were passionately in love with our child and that it wasn\u2019t going to happen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAlso, it was one of those things, too, I think\u2014like they didn\u2019t really know what was going to happen. I don\u2019t know if maybe\u2014and this is just my own speculation\u2014maybe they were afraid to suggest that when there wasn\u2019t something obviously\u2014I don\u2019t know, contract me to say: \u201cWell, there\u2019s something wrong; so let\u2019s abort. We don\u2019t know what it is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cbut let\u2019s\u2026\u201d\u2014you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and a cleft palate is not a small thing; but it is something that can be treated.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Cleft palate is totally repairable; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. So that\u2019s not something that you would recommend termination for\u2014I wouldn\u2019t think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Not typically.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you say the doctors knew where you stood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You knew where you stood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Was there ever even a moment?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> There was <em>so not <\/em>a moment for us that, after Christian was born, and somebody suggested that that should have been the course we took, it blew my mind! Our thoughts were: \u201cPlease let this child be okay. What can I do to make this child be okay?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Take us to the day of delivery.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because the diagnosis was unknown\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014until Christian was born; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> \u2014the full diagnosis. They knew cleft lip and palate, but something was just off and different; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe day of his birth, we had, I would say, between 20 and 30 people scrubbed into our room. It was absurd the amount of people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did that take the joy [out] of the birth?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> No; it didn\u2019t. There was still joy. I remember walking into the hospital that morning. We had to be there really early; you know? The excitement of getting to have my child and hold my child was still\u2014I would call that overwhelming compared to the fear. There was fear. I mean, I would be silly to say there wasn\u2019t. There was a lot of fear, and there was a lot of anxiety about what was going to happen; but overall, you know, I was thinking: \u201cI\u2019m going to get to hold my baby today. I\u2019m going to get to see him. I\u2019m going to get to be his mother today.\u201d So that was the overwhelming sense. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was thankful for all of those people in the room, because we didn\u2019t know what was going to happen. They were preparing for every scenario\u2014that kind of made me feel better.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, when you gave birth, how long before you held Christian?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It was about eight hours, I believe. I was very medicated. They give you lots of medication after a C-section. They wouldn\u2019t let me get up out of the bed until like all of the spinal had worn off and, you know, I could feel my feet again, and that kind of stuff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat took <em>hours<\/em>. His NICU was one-third of a mile from my room.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> So getting there, right after I had a C-section, was no easy task.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what about Chris, your husband? Did he have a chance to see him before you did?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> The only time Chris saw him was after he was born, and they cut the umbilical cord. They knew he was breathing. They took him over to his little incubator to do his APGAR test and all of that, just like they would any child. Chris got to go see him then, while they were still finishing up on <em>me<\/em>. Then, after that, Chris stayed with me until I was able to go; because he wasn\u2019t exactly stable just yet, they said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> So they wouldn\u2019t really let him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what did Chris tell you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Well, I\u2019m still lying there, you know, and Christian\u2019s screaming, which is beautiful for us to hear. Chris is sitting by my head.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI send him over to check on Christian, like, \u201cGo make sure he\u2019s okay,\u201d\u2014because, of course, I\u2019m helpless\u2014you know, they\u2019re sewing me up. I\u2019m just like: \u201cHurry up! I want to see my baby. Hurry up!\u201d All of a sudden, I started hemorrhaging; and all of these doctors around me started yelling. I\u2019m getting nervous about what\u2019s going on with me. I call Chris back over and I\u2019m like: \u201cChris, what\u2019s going on? Am I okay?\u201d He\u2019s kind of checking and looking for me; and, you know, we\u2019re trying to figure it out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the middle of all that, I\u2019m like: \u201cChris, did you see Christian? How\u2019s he doing? Is he okay? What\u2019s going on with him?\u201d I said, \u201cHis birth defect\u2019s not as bad as they thought; right? I mean, I got to see just a quick glance of his face after they delivered him, and it\u2019s not that bad.\u201d He was sort of just somber. He looks at me and he says, \u201cLacey, it is worse.\u201d I didn\u2019t say anything after that\u2014I didn\u2019t know what to say. Of course, you know, I\u2019m being pulled in five or six different directions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> You know, he kind of has a tear running down his face. I\u2019m just thinking: \u201cWhat is he talking about? I didn\u2019t see that.\u201d That\u2019s really the extent of our exchange about it for the few hours after [his birth].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So when did you know what was wrong?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> So the first time I got to see Christian after he was born, they had wrapped his eyes and his head with gauze and bandages and stuff\u2014so the first time I saw him, he had all of that on. I didn\u2019t really get to see his whole face for several days. So, finally, when he was about four days old, they had to do a surgery to put a feeding tube into his stomach; and so they had to take all of the bandages off. It had to be sterile\u2014a sterile environment\u2014to go into the operating room. That\u2019s the first time that I really saw him without all of his bandages. That was when I really got to see the extent of his birth defect and realize it was much worse than the doctors had expected.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So we can\u2019t show our listeners a picture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They can see it on the cover of your book. How do you describe what Christian\u2019s condition is?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> If you think of a cleft lip and palate, the children have a place from their mouth to their nose that\u2019s sort of missing skin and bone and things like that. So Christian has that, except it\u2019s in a different place on his face. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHis cleft ran from the corners of his mouth\u2014both sides \/ it was bilateral\u2014up into his eyes. His eyes were also clefted. It just left the conjunctival tissue, sort of like the inside of our eyelids. So that\u2019s what you see when you see Christian\u2019s eyes\u2014is just that sort of mucus membrane conjunctival tissue. And then, of course, he doesn\u2019t have the cleft on either side of his nose anymore, going up into his eyes; because he\u2019s had surgery to repair that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> But the thing that people notice now is his eyes. Basically, like the non-medical way to say it is that he doesn\u2019t have eyes. It\u2019s not that they\u2019re there and they don\u2019t function\u2014he\u2019s one of the few people who were born without them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fifty people in the world?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> It is fifty people in the world that have his cleft condition that clefted his eyes. There are more people who are born without eyes\u2014or with small eyes is actually a more common condition\u2014but having the cleft on the face that clefts the eyes is a much more rare condition\u2014fifty or sixty documented cases.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So when you saw his face\u2014this is the baby boy you\u2019ve been longing to touch and hold and cuddle your face next to\u2014what were your thoughts?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> My immediate thought was for Christian\u2019s sake: \u201cWhat does this mean for him?\u2014as far as\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> \u201cIs he blind?\u201d I mean, it was sort of apparent that he was blind, but it was one of those things that I just didn\u2019t want to admit it in the moment\u2014so: \u201cIs he blind? and \u201cIf he\u2019s blind, what does that mean? What do we do about this?\u201d\u2014you know\u2014\u201cHow do we get him well?\u201d That was always my concern: \u201cHow do I protect him?\u201d I mean, just laying eyes on him for the first time, it was just instant\u2014you know, I already loved him before he was born and then, just even more so, getting to just see him for the first time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You know, one of the things\u2014as we\u2019ve heard stories through the years of people walking down very difficult paths\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014one of the things that\u2019s become clear to us is that the time to become spiritually prepared for what is ahead is not in the moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The only reason you could face what you faced when you faced it is because you had a walk of faith\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014that had been built into you from childhood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes; absolutely. I had been going to church pretty much my whole life. My husband and I met at church\u2014at a church when I was 15. We were going to that church still when Christian was born. We had the same pastor\u2014the pastor who married us was still our pastor. He taught me so much about the character of God that I feel like he was a <em>huge<\/em> foundation-builder for me that, when that time came, all of the things that he had said and all of the things I had learned from him\u2014you know, they were coming back\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and all the Scriptures that I had memorized. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s not to say I didn\u2019t struggle at times. It wasn\u2019t like it was easy for me to just say: \u201cOh, yes. God\u2019s got this!\u201d It was difficult; but without that foundation that I had ahead of time, I don\u2019t think I ever would have gotten to the place I am now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I say quite frequently\u2014it seems like increasingly\u2014the most important thing about you, as an individual, is what you think about God \/ what I think about God. And then, how do we interpret life\u2019s circumstances against who we know and what we know about God to be true?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Psalm 20 says, \u201cMay the Lord answer you in the day of trouble.\u201d One of the most repeated phrases in the psalms is, \u201cGod is our refuge and our help.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> If you don\u2019t think of God as being a loving God, in those moments when you\u2019re a mom looking into the face of a baby boy, [whom] you\u2019re now grappling with his being blind and you\u2019re wondering, \u201cHow\u2019s this going to roll out over a lifetime?\u201d You\u2019ve got to have a place to take your fear\u2014to take your worries \/ to take your concerns\u2014and cast them on Him, because He does care for you; and He does have a plan. He is a good God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lacey:<\/strong> He is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He is a good God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn these situations\u2014just in reading your story and reflecting on your life, you\u2019ve been an inspiration\u2014your love for your son\u2014you and Chris\u2014to a lot of people. Just like that guy on <em>Sixty Minutes<\/em> was an inspiration to you, as you watched TV that evening, your faith working its way out in, certainly, less-than-perfect circumstances, gives hope to a lot of people who are facing all kinds of circumstances.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I\u2019m thinking, as we\u2019re talking here, about the passage in Romans, Chapter 5, where Paul says that, \u201cWe rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance; endurance produces character; and character produces hope.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking about your book, <em>Through the Eyes of Hope<\/em>, and how God had to take you along that journey \/ along that path for you to view the future with hope. I love the subtitle of your book: <em>Love More, Worry Less, and See God in the Midst of Your Adversity. <\/em>You\u2019ve lived that. I\u2019d encourage our listeners\u2014if you\u2019d like to get a copy of Lacey Buchanan\u2019s book, <em>Through the Eyes of Hope, <\/em>it\u2019s available in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you can call to order\u20141-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, one of the things we had the opportunity to do a few months ago was be in a number of cities around the country, meeting with <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>radio listeners. We were doing some pre-screenings of the movie that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> is going to be releasing this spring called <em>Like Arrows<\/em>, and we invited listeners to come and join us. Afterwards, I remember just how encouraging it was to hear from listeners about how God has used the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in their lives. In fact, I remember talking to a mother of four children who said the half-hour that we spend together every day is a lifeline for her as she is trying to make sure that her marriage and her family are properly calibrated around what really matters in life. That\u2019s our goal, here, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we want to provide daily, practical biblical help and hope for marriages and for families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, there\u2019s a cost associated with us doing this. Producing and syndicating this program, through the variety of channels through which it\u2019s available\u2014that\u2019s expensive; and yet, it\u2019s made possible because some of you, who are listeners, join us as monthly Legacy Partners. Others of you will donate from time to time. We just want you to know we\u2019re grateful for the partnership that we have in helping to reach marriages and families with help and hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re a regular listener, we\u2019d like to invite you to join the team that makes this possible in your community\u2014for your neighbors \/ your friends\u2014for others who <em>need<\/em> the practical biblical wisdom that\u2019s provided on this program. If you\u2019d like to find out more about becoming a Legacy Partner, or if you\u2019d like to make a one-time donation, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. There\u2019s a link there about Legacy Partners, or you can donate online. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also call to donate\u20141-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you\u2019ll be back with us again tomorrow. Lacey Buchanan\u2019s going to be here again, and we\u2019re going to hear about the strain that her marriage experienced because of the challenge of raising a severely-disabled son. That comes up tomorrow. I hope you can be with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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