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While we strive for accuracy and quality, please note that the information provided will most likely not be entirely error-free or up-to-date. We recommend independently verifying the content with the originally-released audio. This transcript is provided for your personal use and general information purposes only. References to conferences, resources, or other special promotions may be obsolete. We do not assume any responsibility or liability for the use or interpretation of this content.<\/p>\n<p>Six Conversations in an Isolated World<\/p>\n<p>Guest:Heather Holleman<\/p>\n<p>From the series:Six Conversations in an Isolated World (Day 1 of 2)<\/p>\n<p>Air date:October 24, 2024<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Generation Z, the number one priority is they want to be spoken to without judgment. Generation Z is the loneliness generation. They want conversations, where nobody is going to judge them, and they can be free to talk about what they need to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>Shelby: Welcome to FamilyLife Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Shelby Abbott, and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson. You can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: This is FamilyLife Today.<\/p>\n<p>Have you ever heard of anybody being called \u201cThe Exclamation Point Woman\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>Ann: No.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: She\u2019s sitting in the studio.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Pretty excited about it too. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s accurate or not. But I heard her once give a message; and she said, on campus, they call her \u201cThe Exclamation Point Professor.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: \u2014\u201cThe Walking Exclamation Point\u201d; yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s what you\u2019re called.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Sometimes;\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014sometimes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: \u2014I have been called that before, yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Well, we\u2019re talking to Dr. Heather Holleman. So what does \u201cThe Exclamation Point\u201d\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Why was I called that?<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes, why did they call you that?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, I bring a lot of energy, obviously; and in the morning, in particular, I\u2019m really energetic. [Laughter] I like to keep class super lively; there\u2019s always a lot of fun. They always joke about how much energy I have and what my secret is to all the energy; so that\u2019s where that came from.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I\u2019m guessing\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014like what do you do? What\u2019s something that you do that\u2019s fun in class?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, I\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I\u2019m thinking of college classes, I\u2019m not imagining fun or creative.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, if you walk in my classroom, there\u2019s always going to be music playing. I have the class contribute to a Spotify playlist, so I can know what kind of music everyone likes. And there\u2019s always an attendance question, which is a really fun question everyone has to answer.<\/p>\n<p>Ann:So what kind of questions do you ask?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, I'll ask really fun questions. What's the best meal you've ever eaten on campus? Or what's a movie you think everyone should see and what's a movie you think no one should see? It's just a way to start class every single day. And then I usually have a short lecture, or they'll have activities they have to do. I always try to bring in video and lively PowerPoints.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: And this is an advanced writing class?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes. So they have to write, I mean, it's intense. Right now they're doing research projects. They have to research scholarly journals and learn how to annotate them and do all sorts of things. So it's a hard class.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:And I'm guessing your classes are sold out?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: I do. I do. Yes, they come. I like to pride myself on perfect attendance. That's not always true post covid, but yes. So no, it's fun. I love being a college professor. I love that age.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: You\u2019ve got to be every student\u2019s\/they want to take one of your classes, I\u2019m guessing.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: I do get a lot of students, who like my class; mostly because, I really do believe in them; and I want the best for them; and I work really hard to help them achieve their goals. I\u2019m pretty devoted to my students. Once you\u2019re my student, you\u2019re always my student\u2014I\u2019ll always be there, helping them\u2014I get emails ten years later for if they need help with anything. Sometimes I'll get wedding invitations, that kind of thing. So it's fun.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:I have never emailed a college prof.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I did.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Have you gone to office hours at least?<\/p>\n<p>Ann: He gave me a D on a paper when I shared my faith and I felt like, did you give me a D because it was written poorly or was it the topic?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Good question, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Well, I was just thinking I've never emailed one because they didn\u2019t make a mark on my life like you are. I mean, they are emailing you because you have\/you\u2019ve made a mark on their life. You\u2019re modeling for us the book\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, I\u2019m invested.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014we\u2019re going to talk about today, Six Conversations. I mean, before we met you, walking in the hallway, you are\/you\u2019d already asked me five questions\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: I did. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014on the way to the studio.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Yes, she\u2019s a great conversationalist. And the subtitle of The Six Conversations is Pathways to Connecting in an Age of Isolation and Incivility.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That\u2019s right. I was highly motivated to research and write this book because of just the culture\u2014not only of what I see on campus\/on the college campus\u2014but research reports coming out about how lonely and isolated people are. I was looking at this Cigna Health study of 20,000 US adults that said almost half the population reports not having meaningful conversations. And the Harvard Grant study\u2014longest research study ever; it\u2019s in its 85th year\u2014they say that the single most determining factor of a happy life is warm connections\/warm relationships. I was seeing the lack of that, and I thought, \u201cI really have to do something. I have to\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You know, teaching on the college campus, I thought, \u201cCan I teach people how to have a loving connection?\u201d \u201c\u2026how to have a really good conversation so they\u2019re, not only less lonely?\u201d\u2014but as someone, who wrote the book, Sent\u2014\"I wanted people to get better in their ability to talk to each other about the things that really matter, like their faith in Jesus.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I\u2019m wondering\u2014I\u2019m thinking of the listener\u2014\u201cWhen was the last time you had a really deep, meaningful conversation?\u201d Like just that question: I think that kind of makes us sit back and think: \u201cOh, is that something I have on a regular basis?\u201d or \u201cIs that something I haven\u2019t had it in a long time?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: You\u2019re saying that\u2019s really important.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: It\u2019s really important for mental health and, also, physical health. One thing about the book: I read all the research\/all the available social science research and then I, also, look at what the Bible has to say about why conversations would matter and how to have them well. I love this book because it\u2019s practical\u2014it\u2019s not an academic book\u2014but it has all the research behind it that will help you have a loving connection and get to those meaningful conversations.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes; it\u2019s super, super practical.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, it\u2019s easy.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: But here\u2019s my question, I\u2019m an introvert\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014which he\u2019s not, by any means. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes; I was looking at you, like, \u201cOkay, someone\u2019s not telling the truth.\u201d [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I\u2019m pretending I\u2019m an introvert\u2014and I hear this discussion\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cYes, but I don\u2019t even really like to talk to people. Do I have to?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You\u2019re so funny, because my husband is an introvert. I say he\u2019s like the proof of concept for this book, because he is more introverted and more reserved. But what you find is\u2014when you see the research behind the benefits of having a warm and loving connection, and some of the mindsets that you would need in order to increase your happiness, and also live a more biblical life\u2014you know, he was really motivated to connect in these ways. He found himself reaching out on airplanes or to friends in new ways.<\/p>\n<p>Once you learn the four mindsets: they\u2019re really easy to learn, and really transformative, and can help you really grow in your art of conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Well, let\u2019s go; let\u2019s do it.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Well, let me say this, too\u2014just a shout-out to the introverts\u2014\"I feel like introverts can have the deepest\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: They can<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014\"conversations.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That\u2019s right; that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I mean, I\u2019m an extrovert. I think it can be easy for some of us just to have the conversation, just on the surface level.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s what I do; I can easily go to a party\/walk down the street, and I can talk superficial all day long.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Which I cannot do that for long. I remember being in a group at a birthday event for all my girlfriends. I love them and I want to know them, but we were talking about nothing, which is fine to do, but after a while, this is probably so rude. I'm like, \u201cYou guys we're talking about nothingness. Let's go deep. I want to know what's happening in your lives,\u201d which they probably were so offended, but it's because I love them, and I want to know them.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:We had, when we first started in our NFL Ministry with the Lions, I know I just mentioned football, but here we are and a player is over at our house, and he's a very well-known player. I won't even tell you who he is. He and his wife, young married, I think he was a rookie that season, and again, this is 30 years ago, and he's still, well-known, probably be in Hall of Fame someday, Ann looks across the dinner table and says to him, \u201cHey, let's talk about your marriage. How's your marriage doing?\u201d He literally looks at her, left the kitchen, he goes out. So I go out into the living room like, \u201cDude, what's going on?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Oh wait, let me just say I knew his wife and I knew they're in their first year of marriage and she's struggling a little bit. So I'm like, you guys, how are you doing? What's going on? And then he just gets up and leaves.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Yes, and he told me, he goes, \u201cThat's just too intimate of a question for me. I don't even know what to say. I'm just, it's awkward.\u201d He had never really gone there. So coach us up. Do you not do that?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, I\u2019ll coach you up. Well, here are things. This is what I learned about what needs to happen in every conversation in order for you to have a warm connection and invite a warm connection from another person. So the\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Dave: By the way, listeners, you\u2019d better be writing this down.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, write this down.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Put this in your phone or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: And think of this: you need this for your family, even.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, this is perfect for how I connect with my daughters, and my husband, my neighbors, my colleagues, my students.<\/p>\n<p>In every conversation, four things need to be happening:<\/p>\n<p>You have to be curious;Believe the best;<\/p>\n<p>Express concern;And share your life.<\/p>\n<p>Now, if one of those is missing, you\u2019re not going to have that warm and loving connection. And if you move through each of the mindsets, a lot of people are not doing well in one of those categories.<\/p>\n<p>For example:<\/p>\n<p>You may just not be curious about other people; but it\u2019s a skill to develop, to ask questions to really believe that the person in front of you is like a marvelous gift to figure out: who they are; what they care about.<\/p>\n<p>And believing the best: a lot of us are approaching our friends with suspicion and judgment.<\/p>\n<p>And then expressing concern means that you really are invested in what\u2019s happening with people: \u201cWhat are their major stressors?\u201d \u201cWhat\u2019s keeping them up at night?\u201d \u201cWhat major decisions do they have to make?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And then it\u2019s your turn to share your life, and a lot of people don\u2019t do that well.<\/p>\n<p>And all of those terms\/they have research terms, like:<\/p>\n<p>Interpersonal curiosity;<\/p>\n<p>Positive regard;<\/p>\n<p>Investment;And mutual sharing.<\/p>\n<p>You know, the social science is great; but I wanted to know if the Bible supported all of that. And you find all of those mindsets in Philippians 2, where Paul says to take an interest in other people; value them above yourselves. You\u2019ll find it in Romans 12, Galatians 6. It\u2019s beautiful to hold up all that social science to what Scripture has already told us about the mindsets you need, first, in order to connect well with other people.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: So Heather, as you go through those four, like what was missing for you, growing up?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, I grew up as a military child. We moved a lot, and I just experienced profound loneliness.<\/p>\n<p>I think what was missing for me was expressing concern for other people, taking on their interests. I talked all the time as, maybe, you can tell; I have high articulation needs, as they say.<\/p>\n<p>And then, I wasn\u2019t good at sharing my life with people. Even though I talked a lot, I wouldn\u2019t really share things that were going on with me; I wouldn\u2019t be vulnerable with people.<\/p>\n<p>And then, at certain seasons of my life, I struggled believing the best about people. In my marriage, we were having a really difficult season of our marriage; and it was because I was always judgmental and not believing the best about him.<\/p>\n<p>Those mindsets really represent maturity for me if you can grow in all those areas as you interact with people, especially children; they want to know that you believe the best about them, that you\u2019re not approaching them with judgment or suspicion about their lives.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I mean, if you start with \u201cBe curious\u201d: Are there some questions\/are there some ways that you can help us? I mean, when I walked in, literally you walked right up, said, \u201cHello, I\u2019m Heather\u201d; and then you said, \u201cHey, tell me: you were with the Detroit Lions\u2026blah, blah, blah\u2026\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014\u201cI used to live in Michigan.\u201d You were curious from the start. So obviously, as someone hearing that question, I\u2019m like, \u201cWow; I like her\u201d; you know?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, it does\/they call that liking.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: It honors; yes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes; when you ask questions, it increases what\u2019s called liking. Now, a lot of people think: \u201cOh, it\u2019s rude or nosy; I don\u2019t want to ask personal questions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes; right.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: But the research shows that, when you do that\u2014and even if it\u2019s an inappropriate question\u2014people like you more. Now with the football player example, it probably made him nervous because there was something that he didn't want to talk about. But I don't think it meant that he didn't like you. It was more about him feeling nervous to share perhaps is the way I think about it.<\/p>\n<p>But to get to curiosity, it's really a disposition of the heart; that you really value them above yourselves. They have something to teach you. They are representing a unique facet of God. They're going to teach you something that you would not know otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>Also, I like to believe that when you're talking to someone, every conversation has a potential to be a life-changing conversation. Have you ever had a conversation that changed your life forever?<\/p>\n<p>Ann and Dave: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes; right?<\/p>\n<p>Okay; but what I really thinking you\u2019re asking is: \u201cHow did I come up with the questions to ask?\u201d\u2014is that what you were wondering?\u2014like: \u201cHow did I know what to ask you or\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes. I mean, in some ways, if I\u2019m not\u2014again, if a listener\u2019s not a curious person\u2014they\u2019re like, \u201cWhere do I start? I\u2019m not really that curious.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I mean, Ann does this\u2014we would have couples over\u2014and as they\u2019re leaving, almost every time, as they\u2019re leaving our house\u2014they would, almost 100 percent, probably<\/p>\n<p>100 percent\u2014they would say something, like, \u201cWow! We just had the best time here tonight.\u201d I\u2019m sitting there, going, \u201cI know why; all we did was talk about you all night\u201d; you know\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes, yes; they didn\u2019t ask you questions back; yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014because Ann asked, Ann asked, Ann asked. I mean, that\u2019s a good thing; but she is so curious, she kept asking them questions. They loved it, because it honored them.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Yes. We just had this conversation two days ago where we're kind of opposite in terms of we get a group of people, I want to know everything about them.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Don't tell them what we don't.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: You don't think I should?<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Oh, go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: But Dave said, \u201cSometimes you ask too many questions. You're like, it's overwhelming. I think you're overwhelming people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave:And tell them what you told me.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I said, \u201cSometimes you're just telling too many stories. Who cares? Let's ask them about them.\u201d And so it's this,<\/p>\n<p>Dave:And you know what? She's right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: No, and you're probably right.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Nope, you're right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I think sometimes\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You guys are so funny.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I think maybe I can overwhelm someone with my questions.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, it's good not to do a rapid-fire interview. I struggle with that too. But what I love about this book and how easy it is, is it's called The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting. Anytime you\u2019re with someone, you can think of the six dimensions of what it means to be human.<\/p>\n<p>Those are pathways of how to ask really great questions in each of those categories.<\/p>\n<p>And then, you\u2019re going to determine what your conversation partner actually wants to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>The six dimensions of being human:<\/p>\n<p>Every person you see is social; they have friends.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re physical, meaning their bodies and physical spaces.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re emotional\u2014and a lot of people go there first\u2014like: \u201cHow are you feeling?\u201d \u201cHow are you doing?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re cognitive, which means they\u2019re thinking about things. That\u2019s actually my favorite question to ask people is: \u201cWhat have you been thinking about lately?\u201d I often don\u2019t say: \u201cHow are you feeling?\u201d or \u201cHow are you today?\u201d I\u2019ll say, \u201cI haven\u2019t seen you in a while; what have you been thinking about?\u201d I learn so much just asking that question.<\/p>\n<p>The last two categories are volitional and spiritual:<\/p>\n<p>Volitional means that everyone you meet makes choices\u2014that\u2019s human volition\u2014your ability to make choices and act on them. It\u2019s really about decisions people are making; what choices they\u2019re making; how they decided something. I like asking people that\u2014especially, if they\u2019re wearing something new\u2014I\u2019ll say, \u201cI love your outfit; how did you decide to wear that dress?\u201d or \u201cHow did you decide to buy that dress?\u201d Just ask them their decision-making process: \u201cWhat went into it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: She just asked me this in the bathroom, by the way. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>And then spiritual is my favorite category. It\u2019s hard to start in the spiritual category, but you can; you can ask people: \u201cYou know, I haven\u2019t seen you in a while, I would love to know just what have you been thinking about God?\u201d It\u2019s more awkward because, if you don\u2019t know the person well, it\u2019s hard to ask a question in that category.<\/p>\n<p>I love using the structure of the six conversations, because you\u2019ll never get lost in conversation again. And whatever someone answers, you have endless permutations of where to go next. So when I asked Dave about the time with football\u2014if you noticed, I was interested in what it\u2014<\/p>\n<p>\u2014the impact it had on your body; that\u2019s physical. I wanted to know, \u201cDid you have injuries?\u201d And I didn\u2019t know if you wanted to talk about it; so I was listening, like, \u201cIs he answering in more than one word?\u201d \u201cDoes he seem animated about it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You wanted to tell the story about the longest pass\u2014you know, the interception; I won\u2019t bring it up\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but I was just noticing: \u201cWhat does he want to talk about?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But I could have asked a social question, like, \u201cWhat were your favorite friendships from that time?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Or cognitive, you know, \u201cWhat were you thinking about when that\u2026\u201d Well, I actually did ask you that, after the football pass: \u201cWhat was that like?\u201d \u201cHow did\u2026\u201d\u2014whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Spiritually, I asked, \u201cHow did you handle that? You weren't a Christian yet. What did\/how did you recover?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And then, I could have gone on and on, based on whatever you answered. I just could have run down the list and observed the category that you liked talking about most.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s interesting\u2014that as you recall that conversation\u2014you were, literally, going through\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: She\u2019s going through the whole process.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes; it\u2019s easy!<\/p>\n<p>Dave: On the other side of that\u2014even reading your book, The Six Conversations\u2014I didn\u2019t even know you were doing it.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right; so it\u2019s not artificial.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: It just felt like a conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes; a lot of people are like, \u201cIsn\u2019t this artificial?\u2014you\u2019re going down a list.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014or \u201c\u2026formula?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: No; it\u2019s paying attention, and being really curious, and figuring out what people love to talk about; and you can have a really warm connection.<\/p>\n<p>So often, people love to talk about their bodies and physical spaces; but nobody asks questions about that. So asking them, for example, how they\u2019ve been sleeping at night; people actually like to talk about sleeping: their sleep rituals, how they\u2019re sleeping.<\/p>\n<p>Or especially with older people, they often like and need to talk about the changes, like pain they\u2019re experiencing, and having someone listen to what it\u2019s like to grow older.<\/p>\n<p>People also love to be able to process decision-making; things like that.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: It\u2019s interesting, as I\u2019m looking at your four mindsets, I\u2019m thinking about a parent with their children. And the second one: \u201cBelieve the best\u201d is so critical.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes, yes; huge.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Because as I\u2019m looking at that, if I\u2019m not believing the best about my teenage daughter or son\u2014let\u2019s say hypothetical\u2014this whole conversation goes a different way;\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: It falls apart.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014I get curious for a wrong reason. I\u2019m asking you questions, because I\u2019m trying to catch you in something.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right; exactly.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Because I\u2019m believing you\u2019re doing something behind my back. I\u2019m expressing concern\u2014which is really not that I really care about you\u2014I want to stop this behavior. And then, I share my own story; it could go the other way. So that \u201cBelieve the best\u201d is critical; am I right?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: It is; in fact, the whole structure falls apart if one of the mindsets is missing; and you\u2019re absolutely right.<\/p>\n<p>I have people, who are very curious about me; they might even express concern; they might share their life; but I know that they are already judging me, or they don\u2019t believe the best about me.<\/p>\n<p>Or the other three mindsets could be true\u2014they believe the best; they maybe will express concern; and share their life\u2014but they will not ask me one question about my life.<\/p>\n<p>I spent time with the couple. My husband and I are really excited to spend time with them. Our families were together. We spent eight hours. They did not ask us one question about our lives. We left feeling lonely, disconnected, and really unsatisfied with how that went. We could ask them a lot of questions, but it was never kind of returned. And that's really hard. It\u2019s a real challenge to people to think: \u201cBe curious,\u201d \u201cBelieve the best,\u201d \u201cExpress concern,\u201d \u201cShare your life.\u201d If you don\u2019t share your life, it comes off as an interview.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Oh, yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: So you need that last one.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: See hon! You\u2019re sharing your life!<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, you\u2019re sharing your life.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s what I\u2019m doing, honey.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: That\u2019s right!<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You\u2019re doing good, because a lot of people don\u2019t understand why you need all four. You got right to what\u2019s going to happen if I don\u2019t believe the best.<\/p>\n<p>And Generation Z, the number one priority is they want to be spoken to without judgment. If you look at the studies on belonging\u2014Generation Z is the loneliest generation\u2014they want conversations, where nobody\u2019s going to judge them, and they can be free to talk about what they need to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>I think about that, when I\u2019m with my students, or with people who believe totally different things than I do. I just want to believe the best; there\u2019s a story behind why they believe what they believe\u2014and me trying to figure out that story\u2014and not judge them. Even if it\u2019s a completely wild political opinion I don\u2019t agree with, or maybe behavior that I think is wrong\u2014instead of judging them\u2014I want to know the story: \u201cTell me how you decided to do that,\u201d or \u201cTell me more about how you arrived at this political position; I\u2019m really curious.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And they\u2019ll know if you\u2019re believing the best; they\u2019ll know; they can tell. So you have to really believe it, in your heart, that people are trying to do their best. There\u2019s always a story behind why they believe what they believe.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Well, it\u2019s also interesting if you think about the be curious if a person isn't curious. Again, I'm making a judgment here. It sort of indicates if I'm not asking questions about people I know even my own spouse, I'm selfish. I really don't care. It's all about me. It's like, what would that look like in a marriage to say, \u201cYour interests are more important than mine.\u201d Philippians 2 Have the same mindset that Christ had. Just apply that to your marriage. You would probably start with, \u201cI need to ask her some questions.\u201d \u201cI need to ask him.\u201d \u201cI want to know my spouse.\u201d And so often\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: This is good.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014we drift toward isolation because we're just not willing to have the conversation to say, \u201cThis conversation is not about me. I want to love you and it's going to start this way. Tell me about your day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, or here\u2019s a great question if you feel disconnected from your spouse, or children, or anyone, you can say, \u201cWe haven\u2019t connected in a while, what question are you hoping I\u2019ll ask you about your life?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: That\u2019s a good one.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: And with my husband, he loves the physical category. He loves physical spaces, physical processes. When I ask about woodworking or take a real interest in anything he's building, a system or whatever, he loves that. He knows that I love the cognitive category, and I love talking about what I'm learning in scripture. So it\u2019s an act of love to know what your spouse and children like to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>My children love to talk about their friends; they love to talk about music, food. They don\u2019t want me to ask them what their deep thoughts are about a passage of Scripture they read; they don\u2019t want that right now. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Right.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: I just like to get the warm connection, based on what they enjoy talking about.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I had two thoughts, but if I think back to our 10th year, which our listeners know about, it's the year that Ann said, \u201cI've lost my feelings for you.\u201d When we were coming through that, one of the things you said to me on when we go out on a date, you said, \u201cWould you ask me this question on our dates?\u201d And she said, \u201cWrite this down.\u201d So this is back in the pencil and paper days. I literally get out of things. She says, \u201cJust ask me this when we go out.\u201d \u201cWhat's that?\u201d \u201cHow are you doing?\u201d And I'm like, \u201cHow are you doing?\u201d That's what she goes, \u201cYou don't ask me that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And as I realized my whole life was about me. The reason she lost feelings for me is I'm all about me, my job, my ministry, my future. I'm never stopping to just ask that simple question. Be curious. \u201cHow are you doing as a mom, as my wife?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And so my answer to you on the other side is, there have been many times I\u2019ve asked a wife, \u201cSo what\u2019s your husband literally do at work?\u201d And they\u2019re like, \u201cI don\u2019t know; something to do with computers.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cYour husband really would love to talk about that. That is real important to us.\u201d \u201cThis is what I do all day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And again, some husband may be going \u201cI don\u2019t really want her to know.\u201d That\u2019s what\/I love it, when you [Ann] ask me: \u201cTell me about your job,\u201d\u2014like\u2014\u201cYou\u2019re writing a sermon; what\u2019s it about?\u201d \u201cWhy are you going this way instead of that way?\u201d \u201c What did you feel when you\u2019re on stage?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Ohh, that\u2019s volitional.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014all that kind of stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You want people to ask you: \u201cHey, how did you decide to do that passage?\u201d You like the volitional<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes. And make that move. Even in an interview, \u201cWhy did you go there?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That's the coach coming out, like the plays. \u201cHow are you choosing to do that? What do you see that we don't see in the future that made you decide to do that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave: There you go.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: And I think one other great application for today would be to ask your husband\/to ask your kids this question: \u201cDo you feel like I believe the best in you?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, they know; they know.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: They totally know the answer. And I would say this, too. Pray before you have that conversation, because especially if you have teenagers, our kids spoke truth to us, man, and it was hard to hear sometimes. And so ask God to give you the ears to hear what they have to say.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: And when they say\u2014because they may say, \u201cI do not believe you believe the best,\u201d \u2014do not get in an argument.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, apologize. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Yes, don\u2019t get defensive.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Say, \u201cYou\u2019re right;\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014\"tell me more.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014\"tell me more: \u2018Why do you feel that way?\u2019 And listen, because I think God wants to grow you.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That is so good, Ann.<\/p>\n<p>The other thing that is good with kids is to let them know you\u2019re carrying their burdens with them\u2014Galatians 6\u2014to find out what their major stressors are. After you ask that, say, \u201cLook I really want to help carry your burdens and pray for you.\u201d Let them unburden themselves: \u201cWhat are the major stressors?\u201d \u201cWhat thoughts are keeping you up at night?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Shelby: We will hear more from Ann and Heather in a few seconds about how to get your kids to open up when you ask them questions. I know you want to hear that. I do too. But first, I'm Shelby Abbott, and you've been listening to Dave and Ann Wilson with Heather Holleman on FamilyLife Today.<\/p>\n<p>I must say Heather's a friend of mine and what you've heard in this conversation today, Heather's bubbly personality, the way she asks questions and engages in answering questions, this is who she is. She is authentic. This is the exact same on who she is in real life, and I love that about her. She's so authentic and so caring, and so kind, and just a really fun person to be around.<\/p>\n<p>She's also written a book called The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting In An Age of Isolation and Incivility. You can get your copy of Heather's book by going online right now to FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can find a link to it in the show notes. Or feel free to give us a call at 800-358-6329 to request your copy of The Six Conversations. Again, the number is 800-F as in family, L as in life, and then the word TODAY.<\/p>\n<p>We've been talking about conversations and how to engage with people, and we're living in a tense time right now. There's a lot of division in social media, family gatherings, or maybe even around your own kitchen table. But what do we do since Psalm 133 calls us as believers to live in unity with one another? It's kind of difficult to do that. Right?<\/p>\n<p>Well, that's why I'm so excited to invite you to join us for a five-week video series from our friend, author, and comedian Amberly Neese. It's called \u201cMoving Toward Each Other in the Middle of a Divisive World.\u201d You can hear from Amberly as she guides us on how to build peace in our own backyards when our differing thoughts and opinions and beliefs threatened to really just create division. And so we are really excited about this. If you want to go to the show notes, you could find a link to this five-part video series, or you could head over to FamilyLife.com\/FindingCommonGround. Again, that's FamilyLife.com\/FindingCommonGround.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, here's more from Ann and Heather about how to get your kids to open up when you ask them questions.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: My adult son just said, \u201cI don\u2019t like it when you do this,\u201d\u2014is I would say, \u201cI\u2019m worried about you,\u201d\u2014I thought I was being empathetic, like, \u201cOh, I care about you,\u201d He said, \u201cWhat I hear you saying is: \u2018You\u2019re failing,\u2019 and \u2018I don\u2019t like what I\u2019m seeing.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>To which I said, \u201cOh, that\u2019s not what I\u2019m feeling at all, but I\u2019m concerned you\u2019re not\u2026\u201d; you know? I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, I\u2019ve never thought of it.\u201d He said, \u201cIt feels disrespectful to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Wow; I wonder if you had changed the verb, like, \u201cI\u2019m so curious, \u2018How is this going?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u201c\u2019How\u2019s it going?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, or \u201cI\u2019m really interested in how you guys are working on this thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: But that word, \u201cworried,\u201d communicates that I\u2019m not trusting him with what he\u2019s dealing with.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You\u2019re actually right-on with choosing the right word in the question. That\u2019s why questions like, \u201cHow was your day?\u201d never land well. People hate the verb, \u201cwas,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s too existential\u2014it doesn\u2019t land well in the brain; it\u2019s actually stressful for the brain, according to neuroscience.<\/p>\n<p>So when you put a strong verb in there\u2014don\u2019t say to your children: \u201cHow was your day?\u201d\u2014instead, say: \u201cDid anything surprise you about your day?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Awesome.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: \u201cDid anything challenge you?\u201d \u201c Did anything make you laugh?\u201d They will open up, and it will be a really delightful conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Shelby: Now coming up tomorrow, in a world that's really just divided by incivility and anger, Heather Holleman is going to help us along with Dave and Ann Wilson, to rediscover how to have engaging conversations that connect us. That's coming up tomorrow. We hope you'll join us.<\/p>\n<p>On behalf of Dave and Ann Wilson, I'm Shelby Abbott. 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References to conferences, resources, or other special promotions may be obsolete. We do not assume any responsibility or liability for the use or interpretation of this content.<\/p>\n<p>Six Conversations in an Isolated World<\/p>\n<p>Guest:Heather Holleman<\/p>\n<p>From the series:Six Conversations in an Isolated World (Day 1 of 2)<\/p>\n<p>Air date:October 24, 2024<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Generation Z, the number one priority is they want to be spoken to without judgment. Generation Z is the loneliness generation. They want conversations, where nobody is going to judge them, and they can be free to talk about what they need to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>Shelby: Welcome to FamilyLife Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Shelby Abbott, and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson. You can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: This is FamilyLife Today.<\/p>\n<p>Have you ever heard of anybody being called \u201cThe Exclamation Point Woman\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>Ann: No.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: She\u2019s sitting in the studio.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Pretty excited about it too. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s accurate or not. But I heard her once give a message; and she said, on campus, they call her \u201cThe Exclamation Point Professor.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: \u2014\u201cThe Walking Exclamation Point\u201d; yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s what you\u2019re called.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Sometimes;\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014sometimes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: \u2014I have been called that before, yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Well, we\u2019re talking to Dr. Heather Holleman. 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And there\u2019s always an attendance question, which is a really fun question everyone has to answer.<\/p>\n<p>Ann:So what kind of questions do you ask?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, I'll ask really fun questions. What's the best meal you've ever eaten on campus? Or what's a movie you think everyone should see and what's a movie you think no one should see? It's just a way to start class every single day. And then I usually have a short lecture, or they'll have activities they have to do. I always try to bring in video and lively PowerPoints.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: And this is an advanced writing class?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes. So they have to write, I mean, it's intense. Right now they're doing research projects. They have to research scholarly journals and learn how to annotate them and do all sorts of things. So it's a hard class.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:And I'm guessing your classes are sold out?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: I do. I do. Yes, they come. I like to pride myself on perfect attendance. 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So it's fun.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:I have never emailed a college prof.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I did.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Have you gone to office hours at least?<\/p>\n<p>Ann: He gave me a D on a paper when I shared my faith and I felt like, did you give me a D because it was written poorly or was it the topic?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Good question, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Well, I was just thinking I've never emailed one because they didn\u2019t make a mark on my life like you are. I mean, they are emailing you because you have\/you\u2019ve made a mark on their life. You\u2019re modeling for us the book\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, I\u2019m invested.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014we\u2019re going to talk about today, Six Conversations. I mean, before we met you, walking in the hallway, you are\/you\u2019d already asked me five questions\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: I did. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014on the way to the studio.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Yes, she\u2019s a great conversationalist. And the subtitle of The Six Conversations is Pathways to Connecting in an Age of Isolation and Incivility.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That\u2019s right. I was highly motivated to research and write this book because of just the culture\u2014not only of what I see on campus\/on the college campus\u2014but research reports coming out about how lonely and isolated people are. I was looking at this Cigna Health study of 20,000 US adults that said almost half the population reports not having meaningful conversations. And the Harvard Grant study\u2014longest research study ever; it\u2019s in its 85th year\u2014they say that the single most determining factor of a happy life is warm connections\/warm relationships. I was seeing the lack of that, and I thought, \u201cI really have to do something. I have to\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You know, teaching on the college campus, I thought, \u201cCan I teach people how to have a loving connection?\u201d \u201c\u2026how to have a really good conversation so they\u2019re, not only less lonely?\u201d\u2014but as someone, who wrote the book, Sent\u2014\"I wanted people to get better in their ability to talk to each other about the things that really matter, like their faith in Jesus.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I\u2019m wondering\u2014I\u2019m thinking of the listener\u2014\u201cWhen was the last time you had a really deep, meaningful conversation?\u201d Like just that question: I think that kind of makes us sit back and think: \u201cOh, is that something I have on a regular basis?\u201d or \u201cIs that something I haven\u2019t had it in a long time?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: You\u2019re saying that\u2019s really important.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: It\u2019s really important for mental health and, also, physical health. One thing about the book: I read all the research\/all the available social science research and then I, also, look at what the Bible has to say about why conversations would matter and how to have them well. I love this book because it\u2019s practical\u2014it\u2019s not an academic book\u2014but it has all the research behind it that will help you have a loving connection and get to those meaningful conversations.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes; it\u2019s super, super practical.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, it\u2019s easy.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: But here\u2019s my question, I\u2019m an introvert\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014which he\u2019s not, by any means. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes; I was looking at you, like, \u201cOkay, someone\u2019s not telling the truth.\u201d [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I\u2019m pretending I\u2019m an introvert\u2014and I hear this discussion\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cYes, but I don\u2019t even really like to talk to people. Do I have to?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You\u2019re so funny, because my husband is an introvert. I say he\u2019s like the proof of concept for this book, because he is more introverted and more reserved. But what you find is\u2014when you see the research behind the benefits of having a warm and loving connection, and some of the mindsets that you would need in order to increase your happiness, and also live a more biblical life\u2014you know, he was really motivated to connect in these ways. He found himself reaching out on airplanes or to friends in new ways.<\/p>\n<p>Once you learn the four mindsets: they\u2019re really easy to learn, and really transformative, and can help you really grow in your art of conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Well, let\u2019s go; let\u2019s do it.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Well, let me say this, too\u2014just a shout-out to the introverts\u2014\"I feel like introverts can have the deepest\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: They can<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014\"conversations.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That\u2019s right; that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I mean, I\u2019m an extrovert. I think it can be easy for some of us just to have the conversation, just on the surface level.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s what I do; I can easily go to a party\/walk down the street, and I can talk superficial all day long.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Which I cannot do that for long. I remember being in a group at a birthday event for all my girlfriends. I love them and I want to know them, but we were talking about nothing, which is fine to do, but after a while, this is probably so rude. I'm like, \u201cYou guys we're talking about nothingness. Let's go deep. I want to know what's happening in your lives,\u201d which they probably were so offended, but it's because I love them, and I want to know them.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:We had, when we first started in our NFL Ministry with the Lions, I know I just mentioned football, but here we are and a player is over at our house, and he's a very well-known player. I won't even tell you who he is. He and his wife, young married, I think he was a rookie that season, and again, this is 30 years ago, and he's still, well-known, probably be in Hall of Fame someday, Ann looks across the dinner table and says to him, \u201cHey, let's talk about your marriage. How's your marriage doing?\u201d He literally looks at her, left the kitchen, he goes out. So I go out into the living room like, \u201cDude, what's going on?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Oh wait, let me just say I knew his wife and I knew they're in their first year of marriage and she's struggling a little bit. So I'm like, you guys, how are you doing? What's going on? And then he just gets up and leaves.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Yes, and he told me, he goes, \u201cThat's just too intimate of a question for me. I don't even know what to say. I'm just, it's awkward.\u201d He had never really gone there. So coach us up. Do you not do that?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, I\u2019ll coach you up. Well, here are things. This is what I learned about what needs to happen in every conversation in order for you to have a warm connection and invite a warm connection from another person. So the\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Dave: By the way, listeners, you\u2019d better be writing this down.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, write this down.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Put this in your phone or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: And think of this: you need this for your family, even.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, this is perfect for how I connect with my daughters, and my husband, my neighbors, my colleagues, my students.<\/p>\n<p>In every conversation, four things need to be happening:<\/p>\n<p>You have to be curious;Believe the best;<\/p>\n<p>Express concern;And share your life.<\/p>\n<p>Now, if one of those is missing, you\u2019re not going to have that warm and loving connection. And if you move through each of the mindsets, a lot of people are not doing well in one of those categories.<\/p>\n<p>For example:<\/p>\n<p>You may just not be curious about other people; but it\u2019s a skill to develop, to ask questions to really believe that the person in front of you is like a marvelous gift to figure out: who they are; what they care about.<\/p>\n<p>And believing the best: a lot of us are approaching our friends with suspicion and judgment.<\/p>\n<p>And then expressing concern means that you really are invested in what\u2019s happening with people: \u201cWhat are their major stressors?\u201d \u201cWhat\u2019s keeping them up at night?\u201d \u201cWhat major decisions do they have to make?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And then it\u2019s your turn to share your life, and a lot of people don\u2019t do that well.<\/p>\n<p>And all of those terms\/they have research terms, like:<\/p>\n<p>Interpersonal curiosity;<\/p>\n<p>Positive regard;<\/p>\n<p>Investment;And mutual sharing.<\/p>\n<p>You know, the social science is great; but I wanted to know if the Bible supported all of that. And you find all of those mindsets in Philippians 2, where Paul says to take an interest in other people; value them above yourselves. You\u2019ll find it in Romans 12, Galatians 6. It\u2019s beautiful to hold up all that social science to what Scripture has already told us about the mindsets you need, first, in order to connect well with other people.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: So Heather, as you go through those four, like what was missing for you, growing up?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, I grew up as a military child. We moved a lot, and I just experienced profound loneliness.<\/p>\n<p>I think what was missing for me was expressing concern for other people, taking on their interests. I talked all the time as, maybe, you can tell; I have high articulation needs, as they say.<\/p>\n<p>And then, I wasn\u2019t good at sharing my life with people. Even though I talked a lot, I wouldn\u2019t really share things that were going on with me; I wouldn\u2019t be vulnerable with people.<\/p>\n<p>And then, at certain seasons of my life, I struggled believing the best about people. In my marriage, we were having a really difficult season of our marriage; and it was because I was always judgmental and not believing the best about him.<\/p>\n<p>Those mindsets really represent maturity for me if you can grow in all those areas as you interact with people, especially children; they want to know that you believe the best about them, that you\u2019re not approaching them with judgment or suspicion about their lives.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I mean, if you start with \u201cBe curious\u201d: Are there some questions\/are there some ways that you can help us? I mean, when I walked in, literally you walked right up, said, \u201cHello, I\u2019m Heather\u201d; and then you said, \u201cHey, tell me: you were with the Detroit Lions\u2026blah, blah, blah\u2026\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014\u201cI used to live in Michigan.\u201d You were curious from the start. So obviously, as someone hearing that question, I\u2019m like, \u201cWow; I like her\u201d; you know?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Well, it does\/they call that liking.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: It honors; yes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes; when you ask questions, it increases what\u2019s called liking. Now, a lot of people think: \u201cOh, it\u2019s rude or nosy; I don\u2019t want to ask personal questions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes; right.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: But the research shows that, when you do that\u2014and even if it\u2019s an inappropriate question\u2014people like you more. Now with the football player example, it probably made him nervous because there was something that he didn't want to talk about. But I don't think it meant that he didn't like you. It was more about him feeling nervous to share perhaps is the way I think about it.<\/p>\n<p>But to get to curiosity, it's really a disposition of the heart; that you really value them above yourselves. They have something to teach you. They are representing a unique facet of God. They're going to teach you something that you would not know otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>Also, I like to believe that when you're talking to someone, every conversation has a potential to be a life-changing conversation. Have you ever had a conversation that changed your life forever?<\/p>\n<p>Ann and Dave: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes; right?<\/p>\n<p>Okay; but what I really thinking you\u2019re asking is: \u201cHow did I come up with the questions to ask?\u201d\u2014is that what you were wondering?\u2014like: \u201cHow did I know what to ask you or\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes. I mean, in some ways, if I\u2019m not\u2014again, if a listener\u2019s not a curious person\u2014they\u2019re like, \u201cWhere do I start? I\u2019m not really that curious.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I mean, Ann does this\u2014we would have couples over\u2014and as they\u2019re leaving, almost every time, as they\u2019re leaving our house\u2014they would, almost 100 percent, probably<\/p>\n<p>100 percent\u2014they would say something, like, \u201cWow! We just had the best time here tonight.\u201d I\u2019m sitting there, going, \u201cI know why; all we did was talk about you all night\u201d; you know\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes, yes; they didn\u2019t ask you questions back; yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014because Ann asked, Ann asked, Ann asked. I mean, that\u2019s a good thing; but she is so curious, she kept asking them questions. They loved it, because it honored them.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Yes. We just had this conversation two days ago where we're kind of opposite in terms of we get a group of people, I want to know everything about them.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Don't tell them what we don't.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: You don't think I should?<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Oh, go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: But Dave said, \u201cSometimes you ask too many questions. You're like, it's overwhelming. I think you're overwhelming people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave:And tell them what you told me.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I said, \u201cSometimes you're just telling too many stories. Who cares? Let's ask them about them.\u201d And so it's this,<\/p>\n<p>Dave:And you know what? She's right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: No, and you're probably right.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Nope, you're right.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I think sometimes\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You guys are so funny.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: I think maybe I can overwhelm someone with my questions.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, it's good not to do a rapid-fire interview. I struggle with that too. But what I love about this book and how easy it is, is it's called The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting. Anytime you\u2019re with someone, you can think of the six dimensions of what it means to be human.<\/p>\n<p>Those are pathways of how to ask really great questions in each of those categories.<\/p>\n<p>And then, you\u2019re going to determine what your conversation partner actually wants to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>The six dimensions of being human:<\/p>\n<p>Every person you see is social; they have friends.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re physical, meaning their bodies and physical spaces.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re emotional\u2014and a lot of people go there first\u2014like: \u201cHow are you feeling?\u201d \u201cHow are you doing?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re cognitive, which means they\u2019re thinking about things. That\u2019s actually my favorite question to ask people is: \u201cWhat have you been thinking about lately?\u201d I often don\u2019t say: \u201cHow are you feeling?\u201d or \u201cHow are you today?\u201d I\u2019ll say, \u201cI haven\u2019t seen you in a while; what have you been thinking about?\u201d I learn so much just asking that question.<\/p>\n<p>The last two categories are volitional and spiritual:<\/p>\n<p>Volitional means that everyone you meet makes choices\u2014that\u2019s human volition\u2014your ability to make choices and act on them. It\u2019s really about decisions people are making; what choices they\u2019re making; how they decided something. I like asking people that\u2014especially, if they\u2019re wearing something new\u2014I\u2019ll say, \u201cI love your outfit; how did you decide to wear that dress?\u201d or \u201cHow did you decide to buy that dress?\u201d Just ask them their decision-making process: \u201cWhat went into it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: She just asked me this in the bathroom, by the way. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>And then spiritual is my favorite category. It\u2019s hard to start in the spiritual category, but you can; you can ask people: \u201cYou know, I haven\u2019t seen you in a while, I would love to know just what have you been thinking about God?\u201d It\u2019s more awkward because, if you don\u2019t know the person well, it\u2019s hard to ask a question in that category.<\/p>\n<p>I love using the structure of the six conversations, because you\u2019ll never get lost in conversation again. And whatever someone answers, you have endless permutations of where to go next. So when I asked Dave about the time with football\u2014if you noticed, I was interested in what it\u2014<\/p>\n<p>\u2014the impact it had on your body; that\u2019s physical. I wanted to know, \u201cDid you have injuries?\u201d And I didn\u2019t know if you wanted to talk about it; so I was listening, like, \u201cIs he answering in more than one word?\u201d \u201cDoes he seem animated about it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You wanted to tell the story about the longest pass\u2014you know, the interception; I won\u2019t bring it up\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but I was just noticing: \u201cWhat does he want to talk about?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But I could have asked a social question, like, \u201cWhat were your favorite friendships from that time?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Or cognitive, you know, \u201cWhat were you thinking about when that\u2026\u201d Well, I actually did ask you that, after the football pass: \u201cWhat was that like?\u201d \u201cHow did\u2026\u201d\u2014whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Spiritually, I asked, \u201cHow did you handle that? You weren't a Christian yet. What did\/how did you recover?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And then, I could have gone on and on, based on whatever you answered. I just could have run down the list and observed the category that you liked talking about most.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s interesting\u2014that as you recall that conversation\u2014you were, literally, going through\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: She\u2019s going through the whole process.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes; it\u2019s easy!<\/p>\n<p>Dave: On the other side of that\u2014even reading your book, The Six Conversations\u2014I didn\u2019t even know you were doing it.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right; so it\u2019s not artificial.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: It just felt like a conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes; a lot of people are like, \u201cIsn\u2019t this artificial?\u2014you\u2019re going down a list.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014or \u201c\u2026formula?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: No; it\u2019s paying attention, and being really curious, and figuring out what people love to talk about; and you can have a really warm connection.<\/p>\n<p>So often, people love to talk about their bodies and physical spaces; but nobody asks questions about that. So asking them, for example, how they\u2019ve been sleeping at night; people actually like to talk about sleeping: their sleep rituals, how they\u2019re sleeping.<\/p>\n<p>Or especially with older people, they often like and need to talk about the changes, like pain they\u2019re experiencing, and having someone listen to what it\u2019s like to grow older.<\/p>\n<p>People also love to be able to process decision-making; things like that.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: It\u2019s interesting, as I\u2019m looking at your four mindsets, I\u2019m thinking about a parent with their children. And the second one: \u201cBelieve the best\u201d is so critical.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, yes, yes; huge.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Because as I\u2019m looking at that, if I\u2019m not believing the best about my teenage daughter or son\u2014let\u2019s say hypothetical\u2014this whole conversation goes a different way;\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Heather: It falls apart.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014I get curious for a wrong reason. I\u2019m asking you questions, because I\u2019m trying to catch you in something.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Right; exactly.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Because I\u2019m believing you\u2019re doing something behind my back. I\u2019m expressing concern\u2014which is really not that I really care about you\u2014I want to stop this behavior. And then, I share my own story; it could go the other way. So that \u201cBelieve the best\u201d is critical; am I right?<\/p>\n<p>Heather: It is; in fact, the whole structure falls apart if one of the mindsets is missing; and you\u2019re absolutely right.<\/p>\n<p>I have people, who are very curious about me; they might even express concern; they might share their life; but I know that they are already judging me, or they don\u2019t believe the best about me.<\/p>\n<p>Or the other three mindsets could be true\u2014they believe the best; they maybe will express concern; and share their life\u2014but they will not ask me one question about my life.<\/p>\n<p>I spent time with the couple. My husband and I are really excited to spend time with them. Our families were together. We spent eight hours. They did not ask us one question about our lives. We left feeling lonely, disconnected, and really unsatisfied with how that went. We could ask them a lot of questions, but it was never kind of returned. And that's really hard. It\u2019s a real challenge to people to think: \u201cBe curious,\u201d \u201cBelieve the best,\u201d \u201cExpress concern,\u201d \u201cShare your life.\u201d If you don\u2019t share your life, it comes off as an interview.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Oh, yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: So you need that last one.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: See hon! You\u2019re sharing your life!<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, you\u2019re sharing your life.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: That\u2019s what I\u2019m doing, honey.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: That\u2019s right!<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You\u2019re doing good, because a lot of people don\u2019t understand why you need all four. You got right to what\u2019s going to happen if I don\u2019t believe the best.<\/p>\n<p>And Generation Z, the number one priority is they want to be spoken to without judgment. If you look at the studies on belonging\u2014Generation Z is the loneliest generation\u2014they want conversations, where nobody\u2019s going to judge them, and they can be free to talk about what they need to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>I think about that, when I\u2019m with my students, or with people who believe totally different things than I do. I just want to believe the best; there\u2019s a story behind why they believe what they believe\u2014and me trying to figure out that story\u2014and not judge them. Even if it\u2019s a completely wild political opinion I don\u2019t agree with, or maybe behavior that I think is wrong\u2014instead of judging them\u2014I want to know the story: \u201cTell me how you decided to do that,\u201d or \u201cTell me more about how you arrived at this political position; I\u2019m really curious.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And they\u2019ll know if you\u2019re believing the best; they\u2019ll know; they can tell. So you have to really believe it, in your heart, that people are trying to do their best. There\u2019s always a story behind why they believe what they believe.<\/p>\n<p>Dave:Well, it\u2019s also interesting if you think about the be curious if a person isn't curious. Again, I'm making a judgment here. It sort of indicates if I'm not asking questions about people I know even my own spouse, I'm selfish. I really don't care. It's all about me. It's like, what would that look like in a marriage to say, \u201cYour interests are more important than mine.\u201d Philippians 2 Have the same mindset that Christ had. Just apply that to your marriage. You would probably start with, \u201cI need to ask her some questions.\u201d \u201cI need to ask him.\u201d \u201cI want to know my spouse.\u201d And so often\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: This is good.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014we drift toward isolation because we're just not willing to have the conversation to say, \u201cThis conversation is not about me. I want to love you and it's going to start this way. Tell me about your day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, or here\u2019s a great question if you feel disconnected from your spouse, or children, or anyone, you can say, \u201cWe haven\u2019t connected in a while, what question are you hoping I\u2019ll ask you about your life?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: That\u2019s a good one.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: And with my husband, he loves the physical category. He loves physical spaces, physical processes. When I ask about woodworking or take a real interest in anything he's building, a system or whatever, he loves that. He knows that I love the cognitive category, and I love talking about what I'm learning in scripture. So it\u2019s an act of love to know what your spouse and children like to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>My children love to talk about their friends; they love to talk about music, food. They don\u2019t want me to ask them what their deep thoughts are about a passage of Scripture they read; they don\u2019t want that right now. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Right.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: I just like to get the warm connection, based on what they enjoy talking about.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: I had two thoughts, but if I think back to our 10th year, which our listeners know about, it's the year that Ann said, \u201cI've lost my feelings for you.\u201d When we were coming through that, one of the things you said to me on when we go out on a date, you said, \u201cWould you ask me this question on our dates?\u201d And she said, \u201cWrite this down.\u201d So this is back in the pencil and paper days. I literally get out of things. She says, \u201cJust ask me this when we go out.\u201d \u201cWhat's that?\u201d \u201cHow are you doing?\u201d And I'm like, \u201cHow are you doing?\u201d That's what she goes, \u201cYou don't ask me that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And as I realized my whole life was about me. The reason she lost feelings for me is I'm all about me, my job, my ministry, my future. I'm never stopping to just ask that simple question. Be curious. \u201cHow are you doing as a mom, as my wife?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And so my answer to you on the other side is, there have been many times I\u2019ve asked a wife, \u201cSo what\u2019s your husband literally do at work?\u201d And they\u2019re like, \u201cI don\u2019t know; something to do with computers.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cYour husband really would love to talk about that. That is real important to us.\u201d \u201cThis is what I do all day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And again, some husband may be going \u201cI don\u2019t really want her to know.\u201d That\u2019s what\/I love it, when you [Ann] ask me: \u201cTell me about your job,\u201d\u2014like\u2014\u201cYou\u2019re writing a sermon; what\u2019s it about?\u201d \u201cWhy are you going this way instead of that way?\u201d \u201c What did you feel when you\u2019re on stage?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Ohh, that\u2019s volitional.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014all that kind of stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You want people to ask you: \u201cHey, how did you decide to do that passage?\u201d You like the volitional<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Yes. And make that move. Even in an interview, \u201cWhy did you go there?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That's the coach coming out, like the plays. \u201cHow are you choosing to do that? What do you see that we don't see in the future that made you decide to do that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave: There you go.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: And I think one other great application for today would be to ask your husband\/to ask your kids this question: \u201cDo you feel like I believe the best in you?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, they know; they know.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: They totally know the answer. And I would say this, too. Pray before you have that conversation, because especially if you have teenagers, our kids spoke truth to us, man, and it was hard to hear sometimes. And so ask God to give you the ears to hear what they have to say.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: And when they say\u2014because they may say, \u201cI do not believe you believe the best,\u201d \u2014do not get in an argument.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, apologize. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Yes, don\u2019t get defensive.<\/p>\n<p>Dave: Say, \u201cYou\u2019re right;\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u2014\"tell me more.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dave: \u2014\"tell me more: \u2018Why do you feel that way?\u2019 And listen, because I think God wants to grow you.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: That is so good, Ann.<\/p>\n<p>The other thing that is good with kids is to let them know you\u2019re carrying their burdens with them\u2014Galatians 6\u2014to find out what their major stressors are. After you ask that, say, \u201cLook I really want to help carry your burdens and pray for you.\u201d Let them unburden themselves: \u201cWhat are the major stressors?\u201d \u201cWhat thoughts are keeping you up at night?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Shelby: We will hear more from Ann and Heather in a few seconds about how to get your kids to open up when you ask them questions. I know you want to hear that. I do too. But first, I'm Shelby Abbott, and you've been listening to Dave and Ann Wilson with Heather Holleman on FamilyLife Today.<\/p>\n<p>I must say Heather's a friend of mine and what you've heard in this conversation today, Heather's bubbly personality, the way she asks questions and engages in answering questions, this is who she is. She is authentic. This is the exact same on who she is in real life, and I love that about her. She's so authentic and so caring, and so kind, and just a really fun person to be around.<\/p>\n<p>She's also written a book called The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting In An Age of Isolation and Incivility. You can get your copy of Heather's book by going online right now to FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can find a link to it in the show notes. Or feel free to give us a call at 800-358-6329 to request your copy of The Six Conversations. Again, the number is 800-F as in family, L as in life, and then the word TODAY.<\/p>\n<p>We've been talking about conversations and how to engage with people, and we're living in a tense time right now. There's a lot of division in social media, family gatherings, or maybe even around your own kitchen table. But what do we do since Psalm 133 calls us as believers to live in unity with one another? It's kind of difficult to do that. Right?<\/p>\n<p>Well, that's why I'm so excited to invite you to join us for a five-week video series from our friend, author, and comedian Amberly Neese. It's called \u201cMoving Toward Each Other in the Middle of a Divisive World.\u201d You can hear from Amberly as she guides us on how to build peace in our own backyards when our differing thoughts and opinions and beliefs threatened to really just create division. And so we are really excited about this. If you want to go to the show notes, you could find a link to this five-part video series, or you could head over to FamilyLife.com\/FindingCommonGround. Again, that's FamilyLife.com\/FindingCommonGround.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, here's more from Ann and Heather about how to get your kids to open up when you ask them questions.<\/p>\n<p>Ann: My adult son just said, \u201cI don\u2019t like it when you do this,\u201d\u2014is I would say, \u201cI\u2019m worried about you,\u201d\u2014I thought I was being empathetic, like, \u201cOh, I care about you,\u201d He said, \u201cWhat I hear you saying is: \u2018You\u2019re failing,\u2019 and \u2018I don\u2019t like what I\u2019m seeing.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>To which I said, \u201cOh, that\u2019s not what I\u2019m feeling at all, but I\u2019m concerned you\u2019re not\u2026\u201d; you know? I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, I\u2019ve never thought of it.\u201d He said, \u201cIt feels disrespectful to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Wow; I wonder if you had changed the verb, like, \u201cI\u2019m so curious, \u2018How is this going?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: \u201c\u2019How\u2019s it going?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Heather: Yes, or \u201cI\u2019m really interested in how you guys are working on this thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: But that word, \u201cworried,\u201d communicates that I\u2019m not trusting him with what he\u2019s dealing with.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: You\u2019re actually right-on with choosing the right word in the question. That\u2019s why questions like, \u201cHow was your day?\u201d never land well. People hate the verb, \u201cwas,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s too existential\u2014it doesn\u2019t land well in the brain; it\u2019s actually stressful for the brain, according to neuroscience.<\/p>\n<p>So when you put a strong verb in there\u2014don\u2019t say to your children: \u201cHow was your day?\u201d\u2014instead, say: \u201cDid anything surprise you about your day?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ann: Awesome.<\/p>\n<p>Heather: \u201cDid anything challenge you?\u201d \u201c Did anything make you laugh?\u201d They will open up, and it will be a really delightful conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Shelby: Now coming up tomorrow, in a world that's really just divided by incivility and anger, Heather Holleman is going to help us along with Dave and Ann Wilson, to rediscover how to have engaging conversations that connect us. That's coming up tomorrow. We hope you'll join us.<\/p>\n<p>On behalf of Dave and Ann Wilson, I'm Shelby Abbott. We'll see you back next time for another edition of FamilyLife Today.<\/p>\n<p>FamilyLife Today is a donor-supported production of FamilyLife\u00ae, a Cru\u00ae Ministry.<\/p>\n<p>Helping you pursue the relationships that matter most.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019ve benefited from the FamilyLife Today transcripts, would you consider donating today to help defray the costs of producing them and making them available online?<\/p>\n<p>Copyright \u00a9 2024 FamilyLife. 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